Apparently, ABC news is running a segment tonight on the 9/11 war games, and blaming the U.S. military's non-action on incompetence.

Here's my attempt to address the whole "incompetence" defense to 9/11.

While I was driving to work

While I was driving to work I turned on the Ed Shultz Show on Air America. He was talking about the C-Span show. He refered to it as a "Freak Show." How do you deal with people like him? I can understand Hannity or O'Riley but Shultz? This is what we are up against.

Very good. I was looking to

Very good. I was looking to use the "plane in UN colors memo" in something, and I think it fits well into this.

GW, great article! My only

GW, great article!

My only comment would be to do without this piece:

(Although there might be a connection between the fact that 65 percent of liberals in the U.S. have a positive impression of atheists and the fact that it is difficult for liberals to imagine that the necons could really be so cold-hearted.

I don't think you need it. Good job.

OT Little Gremlins at work

List those who have failed

List those who have failed to protect us from a terror attack preceding and on 9/11 and tell me if you think it was total incompetence.

GW, I don't think they cover

GW, I don't think they cover the war games, just the air response generally. Big difference IMO because people would really start asking questions if they cover the war games in depth.

I didn't see the ABC

I didn't see the ABC segment, why are they rehashing the lack of air defense almost 5 years after the fact? Is there new evidence that made this news again?

The Bush administration had

The Bush administration had received multiple warnings that the attack in manhattan was imminent yet they viewed the first hit in NYC to be an accident.

"Must have been a terrible pilot" -Bush

"How could this have happened on such sunny and clear day?" -Cheney




"great list of

"great list of questions"

I'd like to see the media post that list of questions.

Now there's a good

Now there's a good campaign... "Answer The Families Questions"...

I do think it's a good thing

I do think it's a good thing that MSM is still covering this, keeps the subject on the table for debate.

I'd like to see, "Answer The

I'd like to see, "Answer The Families Questions" incorporated into the phone calling...

If they won't answer our

If they won't answer our questions, maybe they'll answer the questions of the families...

Trying to build critical

Trying to build critical mass for a 9/11 Truth group on LibraryThing (big social book-sharing site). If you have any thoughts on 9/11 books please join the group and post comments, it's free and very easy.

Book links:
9/11 Sythetic Terror: Made in USA
The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions


9-11 poll

Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

Is it possible we've been

Is it possible we've been going about it the wrong way?

The Family Steering Commitee compiled a list of questions that WAS NOT answered.

As Robert Bowman says, "If the Government has nothing to hide, then why do they hide everything?"

I can only speak for myself, but part of why I do this is for the family members..

Shouldn't we focus some of our efforts towards getting some of their questions answered?

huge list of media contacts

huge list of media contacts in text format, just copy and paste into your email's BCC or CC section

Jon: I just used that email


I just used that email list and copy/pasted that page into a gmail (with the hyperlinks working fine)

with the subject "Now is the time to address the families' unanswered questions of 9/11"

I suggest everyone do the same.

Hey Jon, what's up with

Hey Jon, what's up with YBBS?? Server's down??

MySpace 9/11 Truth group is

MySpace 9/11 Truth group is up to almost 20,000 members, 10th largest group there in "government and politics".

right click / Save Target

right click / Save Target as...

it's preformatted for you to just copy paste

or do EDIT>>SELECT ALL from your web browser (hot keys CTRL+A)

turbosaab: http://www.myspace

yeah, it doesnt look like

yeah, it doesnt look like they are gonna cover the war games, that would open up a can of worms. i saw the segment on World News Tonight, and no mention of war games.

I am so down. Called my Mom

I am so down. Called my Mom to tell her to watch C-Span tonight. She won't even discuss 9/11 truth with me... won't even let me bring it up. So, I just said to watch American Perspectives on CSpan at 6:10... hey, it's C-Span, sounds pretty innocent. But before we could hang up, she comments on how much she likes Glenn Beck..

I was sick at my stomach. WTF!! Glenn Beck - the man who said he couldn't hate the 9/11 victims' families enough ... enough, that is, until the Katrina victims came along. He began to hate them even more than the 9/11 victims' families. Scumbag POS.

I'm down - My mom likes Glenn Beck.

Oy Fucking Vey

OT Can anyone provide me a

OT Can anyone provide me a list (just names) of the government whistleblowers?

I know of Sibel Edmonds and Colleen Rowley . . .


Chana, thats horrible.i

Chana, thats horrible.i would be down down every time i accidentally click by and see his condescending ass spouting the latest talking points.Glenn Beck is CNN's attempt at being Fox News. Glenn Beck is one of the worst by far, and with all the candidates in our media today, thats really saying something. luckily for me, my mom gets it. i just made her read Ommissions and Distortions,haha.

Excellent Media Contact

Excellent Media Contact List

Copy/Paste this page of Families' Questions in your email to the media contacts:

WTC movie Flyer

23-page "Fairy Tale From Hell" PDF

"Hey Jon, what's up with

"Hey Jon, what's up with YBBS?? Server's down??"

Seems to be up.

"OT Can anyone provide me a

"OT Can anyone provide me a list (just names) of the government whistleblowers?

I know of Sibel Edmonds and Colleen Rowley . . .


I can understand Hannity or

I can understand Hannity or O'Riley but Shultz? This is what we are up against.
maddog | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 8:18 pm | #
Schultz is a wolf in sheeps clothing. he was a life long republican until his wife "turned him". im sorry, but for a grown ass man to be "turned" like that,that late in life doesnt speak well for his intelligence.after listening to upwards of hundreds of hours of his shows because it was the only talk show i could tolerate and get locally,i have come to hate his fake liberal ass more than i hate most conservative puppets.i said it at least 3 times today on this board, and i'll say it again, fuck Ed Schultz. people like him are indeed more damaging than any psuedo fascist like Hannity could ever be.main reason being the zombies that Hannity appeals to most likely cant be saved.Schultz is an irresponsible asshole for passing things off without doing any basic research.Randi Rhodes may only be LIHOP, but at least with her you can tell shes done a little bit of homework on such an important issue.

hell, i even got my

hell, i even got my grandparents to watch Loose Change. they were truly disturbed by it.

MSNBC asks: Do you believe

MSNBC asks:

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?

After 300,000 votes, 87% of the people say YES!


I feel better now, just went

I feel better now, just went Anonymous on Conspiracysmashedbrains and posted this:

Anonymous said:

This site is a foul polluted sewer. Even rats have more dignity than the creatures who lurk here.

I am a truther and I pity you for giving support to the most discredited and dishonest government this country has ever known.

You wouldn't even make it into Hell.

MediaPuppet: Thanks, I

MediaPuppet: Thanks, I followed your suggestion.

Wayne... you realize that

Wayne... you realize that that poll confirms the Zogby right? That's pretty big news.

"I'm down - My mom likes

"I'm down - My mom likes Glenn Beck."

Chana, that's a tough blow. There's got to be some sort of support group for that. Oh wait, that's what we're here for.

Chana. On behalf of my fellow Truther's, we feel your pain.

Altogether now: GROUP HUG!!!

Actually... it doesn't say

Actually... it doesn't say they polled Americans of "voting age". It just says 1/3 of Americans. That's 100,000,000 people.

Folks, we need to pound

Folks, we need to pound these funny ass anomalies.

Mr. Flight 93 coroner finds no bodies.
And not a drop of blood.
Yet, the government presents in the Moussaoui trial a pristine hijacker's bandana. Totally absurd.

Does anyone have any info on

Does anyone have any info on the story about the body of the flight attendant found at WTC? I find that very disturbing as I think it must have been planted.

Lung Damage Seen In 9/11

Is he on CRACK too?

Hilarious, I think that

Hilarious, I think that picture on Rush's site is actually Nico.

Hmm... Incompetence. It

Hmm... Incompetence. It would be a shame is if that's all that comes out of all this.

Jon- I always bring up the

I always bring up the families' unanswered questions and their condemnation of the 9/11 Commission Report first thing when I talk to new people about 9/11. Makes that "What would the victims' families think of these wacky theories?" shit useless. Also, it appeals to people emotionally, that the government would totally disregard the concerns of the victims' families.

Nico (or people using his

Nico (or people using his name) are really pushing that tv-fakery b.s. all over the place recently!

Chris Rose , reading that

Chris Rose , reading that Limbaugh site's comments I had to laugh , the commentator says that to think the US would kill it's own to get america to support far-flung war is a' kooky 'idea , then a story down and you have him ,or someone like him , saying it's not far-fetched to think that the lebanese stage their own false-flags to gain sympathy for their cause , as a PR stunt , no less .

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Please post what you think.

"Schultz is a wolf in sheeps

"Schultz is a wolf in sheeps clothing." I was thinking the same thing Chris. I can handle guys like Hannity but the fake liberals like Shultz make me vomit. Calling the 9/11 panel a freak show. What an asshole. I suppose Bowman is a freak? Or Tarpley. Or any truth seeker like you and me. I guess we are freaks too. How Malloy can stand to work on the same network with an asshole like "Big Ed" is beyond me.

>>>>>>>>>>>> ***

>>>>>>>>>>>> ***

Altogether now: GROUP

Altogether now: GROUP HUG!!!
Chris Rose | Homepage | 08.01.06 - 9:17 pm | #

Thanks - made me feel better

joe keith, a no-planer,

joe keith, a no-planer, resigns from SPINE (scientific panel investigating nine eleven)
a short interview of joe keith with morgan reynolds

How Malloy can stand to work

How Malloy can stand to work on the same network with an asshole like "Big Ed" is beyond me.
maddog | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 12:08 am | #
he actually doesnt. Ed Schultz doesnt work for Air America.although Malloy probably feels that way about having to work with Al Franken. funny guy, but hes running for office which means he has to be a corporate shill and watch what he says.

"Ed Schultz doesnt work for

"Ed Schultz doesnt work for Air America" How do you figure that. His show is on Air America in the afternoon. I think Randi Rhodes follows him. Malloy comes on late at night. He follows The Majority Report.