Vanity Fair's NORAD Story
VF has made their NORAD/Pentagon story publicly available, complete with audio snippets;
...For the NEADS crew, 9/11 was not a story of four hijacked airplanes, but one of a heated chase after more than a dozen potential hijackings—some real, some phantom—...
"The real story is actually better than the one we told," a NORAD general admitted to 9/11-commission staffers when confronted with evidence from the tapes that contradicted his original testimony. And so it seems...
..."When they told me there was a hijack, my first reaction was 'Somebody started the exercise early,'" Nasypany later told me. The day's exercise was designed to run a range of scenarios, including a "traditional" simulated hijack in which politically motivated perpetrators commandeer an aircraft, land on a Cuba-like island, and seek asylum. "I actually said out loud, 'The hijack's not supposed to be for another hour,'" Nasypany recalled. (The fact that there was an exercise planned for the same day as the attack factors into several conspiracy theories, though the 9/11 commission dismisses this as coincidence. After plodding through dozens of hours of recordings, so do I.)...
...In the ID section, the women overhear the word "hijack" and react, innocently enough, as anyone might with news of something exciting going on at work:
8:37:56
WATSON: What?
DOOLEY: Whoa!WATSON: What was that?
ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!...
The article is by Michael Bronner, coincidence theorist.
Parse the HELL out of it, and give VF some feedback.
My initial take is; LIMITED HANGOUT 1.0 - "BLAME NORAD"
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Taken in concert with the
Taken in concert with the Washington Post story we have proof positive that the government lied to the commission and that they considered criminal charges.
We should be all over this story. We should be organizing a coordinated email compaign to make people aware that we now know that NORAD failed to scramble jets - and reported - and that NORAD lied to the commission.
Putting "conspiracy theories" to the side - we at the very least have a mandate to demand accountability.
who has been held accountable for the air-defense failures? don't we have a right to demand transparency on this issue - just as a matter of national defense?
Quick - bombard this board with theories on controlled demolition. Bury this. its too dangerous. its the smoking gun. quick - bury it.
Nico - where's Nico..?? Quick - declare this all a non-issue since the planes were holograms. LOL!!!
Again - here is a smoking gun. The Commission admits that considered criminal charges because norad knowingly lied about scambling jets. Read the Washington Post story.
If we can't do something with THIS we are absolutely WORTHLESS.
Here is Paul Thompson's
Here is Paul Thompson's initial take on it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&fo...
Thompson knows his
Thompson knows his bidness;
http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/blogs/10677/Paul_Thompson_July_22nd_2005
www.buzzflash.com currently
www.buzzflash.com currently covering a 9/11 story from the Post as breaking news!?!?
Are they trying to jump on the 9/11 band wagon.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR200608...
OT: Did anyone hear and/or
OT: Did anyone hear and/or tape Barrett on NPR this morning? Was he really on?
Barrett continues to be on fire. We need to hear more from him.
This has Rove written all
This has Rove written all over it.
A spin to protect the guilty and alter the facts just a bit to try to throw off the increasing doubt regarding the official story.
It'll probably work.
alter the facts just a bit
alter the facts just a bit to try to throw off the increasing doubt regarding the official story...It'll probably work.
Well, he'll still have to explain away the collapses of 1,2 and 7.
If drones where used to
If drones where used to strike the targets on 9/11, this would certanly account for the lack of evidence at the sites.
I found the audio for Kevin
I found the audio for Kevin Barrett on NPR, but it is just a news report, not Kevin actually being interviewed:
NPR: Wisconsin Scrutinizes Teacher of Sept. 11 Conspiracy
Does anyone know if Kevin was actually interviewed, or was this what was covered?
Does anybody know the email
Does anybody know the email address of John Albanese. I'm looking for a high quality copy (DVD?) of EGLS. There are some versions circulating as torrents but these have either poor sound or poor picture quality.
We're trying to get it shown in theaters in the Netherlands this september so i will need the highest quality possible.
Thanks!
John, can you supply me with
John, can you supply me with a DVD of EGLS (see the post above)?
I'm the guy that subtitled
I'm the guy that subtitled your movie in dutch BTW...
I agree John. Accountability
I agree John. Accountability should be require. And if the just try to blame it on NORAD, someone there is gonna spill beans. This might be the beginning of the end of the big lie.
SD - I would be happy to -
SD - I would be happy to - but keep in mind that i am premiering a new HUGELY IMPROVED version of this film with the Independent Film Channel in January.
Please email me the address you would like the DVD sent to at: JohnAlbanese@nyc.rr.com
If you would like to translate the new film - i could also send you an advance copy of the script which is scheduled to be completed sometime in September.
I wonder if Ed Schultz
I wonder if Ed Schultz actually watched the CSPAN panel last evening. That coupled with the breaking news in the Post and VF gives him alot to talk about today.
Of course, given how smug he's been and how much he's slandered the truth movement, the question is, what tone will he take? Will he be contrite? Or will he hold firm to his sarcastic admonition that there is no way we could have done this to ourselves?
At this point, any rational human being that looks fairly at the issues MUST be on board with LIHOP at the very least. Once you accept the LIHOP position, it only takes a gentle nudget to make it over to the MIHOP camp.
more..... If you email me
more.....
If you email me the script translated into Dutch I could hire someone to do the actual voiceovers in that language.
Someone like David Ray
Someone like David Ray Griffin who analyzed the lies of the previous timelines should absolutely write an article about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its very important !
"I was shocked at how
"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true."
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OK, well then a fair question is WHAT ELSE IS NOT TRUE???????
Gigantic Media Contact
Gigantic Media Contact List
http://www.unitedslavesofamerica.org/mediacontacts.txt
get cracking
The "Pentagon Lied about
The "Pentagon Lied about 9/11" story is starting to break worldwide.
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1977097,00.html
This thing is starting to spin out of control. Even "the great and powerful" Rove won't be able to stop it.
Keep in mind, that most of the world HATES the U.S. right now. This is the loose thread they've been looking for.
Add to that the insanity going on between Israel and Lebannon and we've got the makings of a major "false flag" event to distract and deceive.
We need to stay on top of this as it breaks, and continue hitting the talk radio shows hard.
Remind people, "fool me once, shame on... shame on you... ya fool me we can't get fooled again!"
Even Drudge may be forced to
Even Drudge may be forced to cover this!! That's when we'll know for sure that the sh** is hitting the fan!!!
What great timing for the
What great timing for the "hijackers" to plan on doing what they allegedly did on a day when NORAD was running Wargames having to do with hijackings.
What is this!?!? From
What is this!?!?
From BUZZFLASH no less?
Holy Sh**!!! "We don't know
Holy Sh**!!!
"We don't know everything that they didn't or did do, but already we know enough to know that they were, in all likelihood, unforgivably and perhaps criminally negligent.
Whether or not they were just incompetent and lazy or were willfully allowing it to happen to create the "Pearl Harbor" event that the PNAC felt was necessary to galvanize Americans into a wartime footing remains to be uncovered."
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Again, this if a "BUZZFLASH" editorital.
I'm freaking the hell out over here!!
The Vanity Fair article
The Vanity Fair article seems like a desperate effort by the Gov't to bolster the incompentence theory. Ridiculous excuse after excuse is made by NORAD & the FAA. E.G., they could not track the airliners, they scrambled the few available jets in the wrong direction, no one ever thought planes could be used to crash into buildings, "drills" being conducted left us totally defenseless, Bush is told that a 2nd hijacked airliner has slammed the WTC and he just sits there like a monkey, continuing his photo-op like nothing was happening, whatever....all bullshit.
BTW, is the ABC Nightline video online anywhere yet?
Let's remember the 'put
Let's remember the 'put options'. Somebody knew enough to profit from all this so-called "incompetence". Who was it???
We need to stay on top of
We need to stay on top of this as it breaks, and continue hitting the talk radio shows hard.
We're on the final sprint people. The summer of truth is now or never. 9/11/06 will be the liberation anniversary. It must be.
What great timing for the
What great timing for the "hijackers" to plan on doing what they allegedly did on a day when NORAD was running Wargames having to do with hijackings.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 10:56 am | #
What luck, indeed.
DHS, the list is empty??
DHS, the list is empty??
Chris Rose, what do you make
Chris Rose, what do you make of the Commission's explanation on the put options?
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp
Thanks for posting that
Thanks for posting that BuzzFlash editorial link, Chris. I love the headline:
The Bush Administration is a threat to our national security in and of itself. You need look no further than 9/11.
I do not think this story is
I do not think this story is an intentional attempt to bolster the incompetence theory. It is too powerful.
We now have proof teh commission considered criminal charges against NORAD for KNOWINGLY lying about our air defenses.
THIS IS HUGE!!!!!
Terrence, King, JTF,
Terrence, King, JTF, 911Facts, where are you folks when we need you? Your great insight would certainly enlighten us on the current news.
:)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/a
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/020806perspective.htm
and again i say, after all
and again i say, after all this time calling the Commissioners a bunch of liars(and rightfully so), you choose now to believe them? they never dreamed of bringing criminal charges against ANYONE. they are saying that now to cover their own asses. nothing more.
"Highly publicized
"Highly publicized allegations of insider trading in advance of 9/11 generally rest on reports of unusual pre-9/11 trading activity in companies whose stock plummeted after the attacks. Some unusual trading did in fact occur, but each such trade proved to have an innocuous explanation. For example, the volume of put options — instruments that pay off only when a stock drops in price — surged in the parent companies of United Airlines on September 6 and American Airlines on September 10 — highly suspicious trading on its face. Yet, further investigation has revealed that the trading had no connection with 9/11. A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10. Similarly, much of the seemingly suspicious trading in American on September 10 was traced to a specific U.S.-based options trading newsletter, faxed to its subscribers on Sunday, September 9, which recommended these trades. The SEC and FBI, aided by other agencies and the securities industry, devoted enormous resources to investigating this issue, including securing the cooperation of many foreign governments. These investigators have found that the apparently suspicious consistently proved innocuous."
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Doesn't pass the smell test.
and again i say, after all
and again i say, after all this time calling the Commissioners a bunch of liars(and rightfully so), you choose now to believe them? they never dreamed of bringing criminal charges against ANYONE. they are saying that now to cover their own asses. nothing more.
Chris | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 11:13 am | #
^ Exactly bro, the cOmmission are the f*cking scumbag cover-up kings here, NORDAD was duped, distracted and confused. Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton can suck a d!ck, in prison where they belong.
Chris Rose, No, it sure
Chris Rose,
No, it sure doesn't;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&fo...
...this is the most
...this is the most important part from the article, regarding the "no flight" perspective on radar and tail numbers (a seperate notion than "no planes").
The Team8+ take:
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3597
Vanity Fair on 9/11 Wargames: "Flight11" Tailnumber didn't match, "175 part of an Input"
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3597
...this week WashPost, ABC and apparently also Vanity Fair tried in a synchronized media stunt to spin the 9/11 Wargames as part of the 'negligence theory' of 9/11.
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=308
U.S. Media is still playing both sides of the argument:
So called "lies" (for incompetence) and so called "truth" (for the 9/11 truth movement and the controlled demolition).
However some more details of the NORAD/NEADS transcripts confirm that the official flights, which officially crashed into the Twin Towers couldn't have been the same.
But almost noone sees the details, which point to the bigger picture: The lies about the "planes":
9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01
08:51:11ROUNTREE: A plane just hit the World Trade Center.WATSON: What?ROUNTREE: Was it a 737?UNIDENTIFIED MALE (background): Hit what?WATSON: The World Trade Center—DOOLEY: Who are you talking to? [Gasps.]WATSON: Oh!DOOLEY: Get—pass—pass it to them—WATSON: Oh my God. Oh God. Oh my God.ROUNTREE: Saw it on the news. It's—a plane just crashed into the World Trade Center.DOOLEY: Update New York! See if they lost altitude on that plane altogether...
08:55:18BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yeah, he crashed into the World Trade Center.ROUNTREE: That is the aircraft that crashed into the World Trade Center?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yup. Disregard the—disregard the tail number [given earlier for American 11].
ROUNTREE: Disregard the tail number? He did crash into the World Trade Center?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): That's—that's what we believe, yes.
...BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): No. The last [radar sighting] we have was about 15 miles east of J.F.K., or eight miles east of J.F.K. was our last primary hit. He did slow down in speed. The primary that we had, it slowed down below—around to 300 knots.DOOLEY: And then you lost 'em?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yeah, and then we lost 'em.
...The problem, Scoggins told me later, was that American Airlines refused to confirm for several hours that its plane had hit the tower.
...08:57:11NASYPANY: Think we put the exercise on the hold. What do you think? [Laughter.]
Just at that moment, in one of the dark, U-shaped air-traffic-control areas at New York Center, on Long Island, a half-dozen civilian controllers are watching a second plane that's turned off course: United 175, also scheduled from Boston to Los Angeles. As the controllers try to hail the pilots, a manager comes running in and confirms that the plane that hit the first tower was, indeed, a commercial airliner, rather than a small Cessna. It's just at that moment that United 175, 38 minutes into its flight and now near Allentown, Pennsylvania, moving southwest farther and farther off course, makes a sudden swing northeast toward Manhattan. Suddenly—instinctively—the civilian controllers know: it's another hijacking, and it's not going to land.
The controllers start speculating what the hijacker is aiming at—one guesses the Statue of Liberty—and the room erupts in profanity and horror.
One controller is looking at his scope, calling out the rate of descent every 12 seconds as he watches the radar refresh. It is not until the last second, literally, that anyone from New York Center thinks to update NEADS. ID tech Rountree fields the call.
09:03:17ROUNTREE: They have a second possible hijack!PLAY | STOP
Almost simultaneously, United 175 slams into the south tower of the World Trade Center, something several NEADS personnel witness live on CNN, including Colonel Marr, the commanding officer. (Dooley told me she remembers looking up toward the Battle Cab and, for a long moment, seeing Marr's jaw drop and everyone around him frozen.)...
09:04:50—Is this explosion part of that that we're lookin' at now on TV?—Yes.—Jesus …—And there's a possible second hijack also—a United Airlines …—Two planes?…—Get the fuck out …—I think this is a damn input, to be honest.
The last line—"I think this is a damn input"—is a reference to the exercise, meaning a simulations input. It's either gallows humor or wishful thinking. From the tape, it's hard to tell...
I agree... the Commissioners
I agree... the Commissioners KNOW that they've been caught in the LARGEST COVER-UP IN AMERICAN HISTORY, and they're trying to lay it at the Pentagon's feet.
The MINUTE they endorsed the 9/11 Report, they became accessories after the fact.
They deserve to hang for their crimes.
The family members will probably have a few statements (PLEASE FAMILY MEMBERS) regarding these new developments.
A single U.S.-based
A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10. Similarly, much of the seemingly suspicious trading in American on September 10 was traced to a specific U.S.-based options trading newsletter, faxed to its subscribers on Sunday, September 9, which recommended these trades.
I take it that was from the Commission report. What a joke! This event is moot and of no concern because the institution had no ties to al Qaida. WTF writes this stuff? Do they think we're all a bunch of tards?
The commission is lying to
The commission is lying to itself. We must expose this. Nobody in good faith can no longer believe to their lies.
So we have to do the job the mainstream media is avoiding to do, in fact MSM just tells lies upon lies to justificate former lies, as the notorious Macbeth used to do with his crimes.
An article by David Ray Griffin exposing point by point these lies adding these latest huge inconstistencies would be huge, and we would send it to thousands of people each one !!!
Thats what we need !! And Kevin Barret and all the other good guys should spread those facts when they are on MSM.
That would put the "conspiracy theory" argument definitely to a rest.
Hey guys... regarding the
Hey guys... regarding the put options...
They told us that the purchaser had "no conceivable ties to al Qaeda".
:)
I'll repeat... "no conceivable ties to al Qaeda"
:)
Should I say it again?
"no conceivable ties to al Qaeda".
Soooooooooooooooo... Somebody with "no conceivable ties to al Qaeda" knew about the attacks ahead of time, and cashed in on them.
I wonder who, with "no conceivable ties to al Qaeda" would have that kind of knowledge.
Yep, they are admitting
Yep, they are admitting their report is a joke. They endorsed NORAD, now claim it is lies. "Commissioners, were you lying then, or are you lying now?"
i hate Wyclef(except for the
i hate Wyclef(except for the Fugees), but this song is nice.
wyclef jean "if i was president"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pq_3OheqzU&search=if%20i%20was%20president
"NORDAD" LOL, i meant NORAD.
"NORDAD" LOL, i meant NORAD.
mediapuppet the file is not
mediapuppet
the file is not empty, right click and save target as
http://www.unitedsavesofamerica.org/mediacontacts.txt
Chris:
Wyclef has talen
if i was president, i'd get
if i was president, i'd get elected on friday, assasinated on saturday, buried on sunday........
tell the children the truth, the truth, tell them about JFK.......
acoustic version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPA-lnlXhmw
Incidentally... the 9/11
Incidentally... the 9/11 Report is null and void, and Exhibit A.
yes he has talent, but most
yes he has talent, but most of his music is trash in my opinion.this song is the shit though. he shoulda never left the Fugees.
Thanks for making so many
Thanks for making so many copies.
It's looking good! However,
It's looking good! However, the pressure must be kept up and, if possible, even increased. The implications of these revelations must be made clear to everyone -- the almost zero probability of numerous hijacking exercises and real hijackings taking place at the same time, the put options, the Mineta testimony, the third plane at the WTC, etc.
wyclef jean "if i was
wyclef jean "if i was president"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...was% 20president
Chris | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 11:46 am | #
I heard this time ago, this must be some kind of official release though because it's weaker then the live version I've got somewhere. I'll try and get it up on my sound click dude if you want to kop it.
DBLS, click the second one,
DBLS, click the second one, its from Chappelles Show.
if i was president, i'd get
if i was president, i'd get elected on friday, assasinated on saturday, buried on sunday........
tell the children the truth, the truth, tell them about JFK.......
acoustic version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v...h?v=vPA- lnlXhmw
Chris | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 11:51 am | #
^That's it, tune!
hey DBLS, you should get
hey DBLS, you should get some Paris on your soundclick page. he would fit right in. Sonic Jihad stuff.
I wonder who, with "no
I wonder who, with "no conceivable ties to al Qaeda" would have that kind of knowledge.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 11:43 am | #
___________________________________--
Those put options must be just coincidence, since the sole declared culprit for the attack is al Qaeda. Wait, the FBI doesn't have hard evidence to convinct OBL for 9/11. Are we missing something here???
:)
If u have some interesting
If u have some interesting updates from major (or not but still interesting stuff) 911 researchers as Thompson let us know... :)
Why hasn't the NYT picked up
Why hasn't the NYT picked up on this yet!?!?!
"Hate to be a Jew right now.
"Hate to be a Jew right now. They are on the wrong side of morals... to say the least"
I am?
KEB We're on the same page.
KEB
We're on the same page. I sent it to DRUDGE as soon as I saw it.
The fact that he [DRUDGE] refuses to link to it tells me this is HUGE!!!
I bet the whitehouse is in the midst of spin control on this one...
I have found it helpful to
I have found it helpful to show my family who reject 9/11 truth this page:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/presiden.htm
and the 3+ hour video. It's long and boring, but it explains how banks control nations.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=money+masters
I just e-mailed Drudge and
I just e-mailed Drudge and World Net Daily the Washington Post article. Lets see if they are man enough to step up to the plate. If we can get the left and right gatekeepers moving on this then were in business.
I haven't bloghopped in a
I haven't bloghopped in a loooong time. Congratulations Pia and Aldo! She's a beauty!
Chris, I've got some wicked
Chris, I've got some wicked Wyclef tunes. I should have put some of these on my soundclick before. I'm going to up a couple to there, and there's another two I'll up on yousendit because their good but not political.
Does anyone here live in
Does anyone here live in NYC?
We could stand in the window FoxNews broadcasts out of tonight - and hold up signs.
They do a show at 7pm with the window open.
we could hit a nationwide audience if we stand in that window. I was there last night and the street was deserted - NO security at all.
i delete two posts referring
i delete two posts referring to jews being a stain on the earth, and jews being on the wrong side of morality..
not all jews advocate the practices of israel, so please do not make any general statements against entire faiths
Thanks.
Thanks.
I AM A JEW! Stop the killing
I AM A JEW!
Stop the killing of innocent people in Lebanon!!!
Enough is enough!
I am so saddened by Israels actions. They remind me of Hitler in '39 prior to the invasion of Poland. JUST STOP!
Israel has killed, MURDERED hundreds of civilians ... young children and single moms.. when is it going to stop!
I, as an American, am not going to pay one dollar of my tax dollars to pay for the reconstruction of Lebanon thanks to Israeli war crimes. I say that the $3-5 billion we as U.S. taxpayers to Israel go to Israel repaying Lebanon for their crimes against humanity.
There is no room for
There is no room for anti-semitism in this movement. you would "hate to be a jew" right now?
i would hate to be an american right now.
do you realize how hated this country is right now?
i feel like a german living in the 1930s.
You, Jon Gold should worry
You, Jon Gold should worry more about the atrocities that Isreal is committing against Lebanon and the world. Defocus on 9/11 for the moment and focus more on the murders that your people on committing.
Brian. Where were you when
Brian. Where were you when Bush's actions towards Afghanistan and Iraq resembled "Hitler in '39 prior to the invasion of Poland."?
My people? My people are
My people? My people are Americans last I checked. My people are members of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
I think what the Israeli
I think what the Israeli Government is doing now is horribly wrong. Just as I think what the American Government is doing now is horribly wrong.
You, Jon Gold should worry
You, Jon Gold should worry more about the atrocities that Isreal is committing against Lebanon and the world. Defocus on 9/11 for the moment and focus more on the murders that your people on committing.
Julie | | Email | 08.02.06 - 12:32 pm | #
Gold is an American, so how are these 'his people'?
Attention: This is a 9/11 blog
Sorry... but the
Sorry... but the Jew-controlled media in the U.S. is letting the "official" story get a pass. So when trying to discredit the official story, we Americans are also fighting the Jews that control the U.S. media.
Please debunk me. I would love to hear that our media is not controlled by Jews. Please prove it otherwise.
oh jesus, here we go.
oh jesus, here we go.
"Can't we all just get
"Can't we all just get along!?!?!"
norad - ha ha! - show me the
norad - ha ha! - show me the remains of the planes -
did two of them actually slip into the wtcs without slowing down and then holes smaller than the planes appear only afterward? or were we lied to.
did one really pull an impossible manuever and then skip across the lawn without scratching it only to disappear into a hole smaller than the plane? or were we lied to again.
did one truly plunge into the ground like a lawndart and pull dirt in behind itself never to be seen again? or was thet a lie as well.
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911 was about the planes and the planes are the weakest link in the fairytale yet excuses are made about them, focusing upon them is discouraged or they are ignored outright.
the patriot act is a direct result of 19 arabs with magic boxcutters highjacking 4 boeings and slamming them into 3 buildings.
the moron terror is a direct result of 19 arabs with magic boxcutters highjacking 4 boeings and slamming them into 3 buildings.
the price of oil. the rising police state. the war profiteering. bla bla bla.
even the 911 truth movement is a direct result of 19 arabs highkacking 4 boeings and slamming them into 3 buildings. but that part is not important so don't look at it!
where are the boeings? did they vaporize? atomize? were they replaced with doppelgangers? if so, then where are the remains of these doppelgangers?
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oh get in line! norad is about to tell us what really happened!
____________
Mel, LMAO!
Mel,
LMAO!
our media is also
our media is also prodominantly white, and the females are prodominantly blonde headed.
it seems to me our fight is with the media, no matter what their race.
Sean Hannity is a Jew?
Sean Hannity is a Jew?
@ Jon: correct, a kinf of
@ Jon: correct, a kinf of doublespeak. Reminds me to Lee Hamilton, who stated he saw no hint for an inside job. Fine line of defense, eh?
Rush Limbaugh is a Jew? Ann
Rush Limbaugh is a Jew?
Ann Coulter is a Jew?
Glenn Beck is a Jew?
Bill O'Reilly is a Jew?
Tucker Carlson is a Jew?
typical. we get handed a
typical.
we get handed a gift by the Washington Post today - and we end up infighting about jews.
this has always been the best way infiltrators disrupt this movement.
a movie "protocols of zion" is currently playing on Cinemax that shows 9/11 Truth members at ground zero - and basically calls us an anti-semitic group.
We all know the NY movement leader was caught red-handed handing out anti-semitic literature.
blah blah blah. its just a cheap trick to bury this HUGE story. The 9/11 Commission now claims they considered criminal investigations into NORAD?
i suggest you people ignore the posts about jews - because they are DESIGNED to bait you.
i agree, ignore the jew
i agree, ignore the jew bashing posts.
...or the forwarned Oldigo
...or the forwarned Oldigo employees.
I hate Muslims as much as
I hate Muslims as much as the Jews. But, the Jews have done more to bring down America than any other race ..religion, theology.. whatever.
The conspiracy Jews on here
The conspiracy Jews on here would love to pin 9/11 on anyone other than the people that brought it on..
AIPAC, Mossad.. the U.S. government is beholding to these blackmailers.
Gold. You are the worst enemy to the 9.11 cause.
Chris, check my soundclick
Chris, check my soundclick dude I've put up "If I was President", and "No More War" which a wicked tune.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=346454
I'll do a couple on yousendit 2...
nice.
nice.
Let us not forget the Jews
Let us not forget the Jews celebrating the fall of the WTC towers.. Mossad.
The question is - How do we
The question is - How do we best capitalize on the Washington Post story?
John. You are really
John. You are really pissing me off with the Les Jamieson bullshit.
Let me ask you something John. If Les Jamieson is a friend of mine, and you say something deragatory about him, isn't that just as divisive as the Jew bullshit?
You know he's a friend of mine, yet, you feel the need to constantly remind everyone of the mistake that he made.
Everyone...
Ignore the Jew bullshit. We are there... we are at the front door, and we are knocking... we can't let up.
People... keep up with the phone calls. John, that was a good idea about the Fox News window.
KEEP IT UP!!!
Rush Limbaugh is a Jew? Ann
Rush Limbaugh is a Jew?
Ann Coulter is a Jew?
Glenn Beck is a Jew?
Bill O'Reilly is a Jew?
Tucker Carlson is a Jew?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 12:42 pm | #
Bush family Jewish?
Netanyahu, Sharon, any of these scumbags running Israel even true Jews following the Ten Commandments?
They are all Jewish
They are all Jewish sympathisers...
* dz brushes off his
* dz brushes off his ban-hammer
"Gold. You are the worst
"Gold. You are the worst enemy to the 9.11 cause."
:)
Sorry... but the
Sorry... but the green-eyed-controlled media in the U.S. is letting the "official" story get a pass. So when trying to discredit the official story, we Americans are also fighting the green-eyes that control the U.S. media.
Please debunk me. I would love to hear that our media is not controlled by green-eyed people. Please prove it otherwise.
Gold. You are the worst
Gold. You are the worst enemy to the 9.11 cause.
MelGibsontellstellsitthewayiti | 08.02.06 - 12:51 pm | #
^ Hahahahaha... did I just read that? Ban this foo 2!
Who runs the MSM..? If you
Who runs the MSM..? If you want, I can provide a listing of the Jews in control of American media... Not pretty.
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.c
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/
Wednesday, August 02, 2006
BREAKING: Steven E. Jones signs "9/11 TV Fakery" petition (08/02)
Petition to Scholars for 9/11 Truth to release a scientific paper at journalof911studies.com to inform the public on the findings of "9/11TVfakery"/"no planes-forensic evidence"
That makes it 7 9/11 scholars signing the petition so far, following Brian Vernon, Alexander Dent, Brad Mayeux, Veronica Chapman, Andrew Johnson, Rick Rajter.
2 weeks ago, Steven E. Jones falsely claimed on 911blogger.com, that the majority of the 9/11 scholars decided, that "planes hit both towers", while this wasn't true.
A debate in an invite-only forum showed, that the scholars had been undecided and many pleaded into looking the findings for 9/11 TV Fakery. Both Jones and Fetzer never showed up in this forum, as witnessed by 9/11 Scholar Veronica Chapman and guest Gerard Holmgren.
Steven E. Jones now wrote on the Petition site:
"...I have no objection to such a paper, as long as: 1. It confronts the evidence such as published reports and photos of plane debris, from the WTC 2 hit; 2- Confronts the radar evidence for real planes at/near WTC on 9/11; 3- Confronts evidence from the oscillatory motion of WTC2 following the 'hit by a jet', showing that it was indeed hit by a high-momentum object 4-- confronts evidence for deceleration of the plane (the amount of the deceleration can be argued -- but it is clearly NOT zero) 5 -- the paper is peer-reviewed..."
DemBruceLeeStyles.. .you
DemBruceLeeStyles.. .you know it to be true..
We all know that 9/11 was an inside job. But who really benefits?
America is supposed to pick
America is supposed to pick up the tab for the reconstruction of Lebanon thanks to Jews using American bombs? I don't think so!
MC Hammer says... Stop!
MC Hammer says... Stop! Shill Time!
VF: "9/11 was not a story of
VF: "9/11 was not a story of four hijacked airplanes, but one of a heated chase after more than a dozen potential hijackings—some real, some phantom"
If *this* doesn't wake people up, I don't know what will. I'm under the impression that until now, most Americans didn't know about these anti-hijacking exercises. Is this correct?
A team in the 102nd Fighter
A team in the 102nd Fighter Wing at Otis Air National Guard Base, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, finishes loading dummy missiles onto two fighters that are going to fly a training mission over the Atlantic. They take off sometime before the second WTC tower is hit. Shortly after that hit, the fighters on the training mission are recalled. The implication is that the fighters are then refitted with actual weapons instead of dummy ones.
http://www.capecodonline.com/special/terror/capecodders8.htm
Otis is the base from which the two F-15s launch in response to the first hijacking (Flight 11) at roughly the same time.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5233007
One of the pilots of these F-15s
Meanwhile... something
Meanwhile... something wicked this way comes!
MelGibsontellstellsitthewayit
MelGibsontellstellsitthewayiti,
your banned, come back when you can discern the difference between bad people who are jewish and jews in general.
christians have killed millions of indians, muslims have killed, and jews have killed, blacks have killed, whites have killed, and athiests have killed, none of this in turn should be used as an excuse to judge an entire group of people.
this is a 9/11 blog people, and forcing every conversation into an arguement over race and religion will not be tolerated.
This is not a Jew or Arab
This is not a Jew or Arab issue, so please everyone concentrate on the task at hand and completely disregard those awkward provocateurs.
Thanks for banning the
Thanks for banning the moron.
"Steven E. Jones signs "9/11
"Steven E. Jones signs "9/11 TV Fakery" petition (08/02)"
That's a disappointment to say the least.
your banned, come back when
your banned, come back when you can discern the difference between bad people who are jewish and jews in general.
christians have killed millions of indians, muslims have killed, and jews have killed, blacks have killed, whites have killed, and athiests have killed, none of this in turn should be used as an excuse to judge an entire group of people.
this is a 9/11 blog people, and forcing every conversation into an arguement over race and religion will not be tolerated.
dz | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 1:02 pm | #
^ Exactly man! The funny thing about the real Mel Gibson is that's he's being smeared. He's not an anti-Semitic nazi and that's what's so ironic about all this bs. If people can't see that then they might as well go back to believing 19 Arabs and OBL... etc.
Vesa, you are correct. I
Vesa, you are correct. I believe most people are not aware of the war games as they were not discussed in the OV.
Also, anyone know when these NORAD tapes were released?
Wyclef Jean feat. Mary J.
Wyclef Jean feat. Mary J. Blidge - 911(2).mp3 (6 MB)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=935A311424084235
^It's the Emergency line not the attacks lol.
Wycleff Jean - Gone 'till November.mp3 (8 MB)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=9174932234ACA23C
I get the impression that VF
I get the impression that VF will continue to follow through and investigate 9/11. The Avery article was the broad brushstroke, now it seems they are trying to validate what Avery has said.
Hopefully more articles will come out.
Steven E. Jones now wrote on
Steven E. Jones now wrote on the Petition site:
"...I have no objection to such a paper, as long as: 1. It confronts the evidence such as published reports and photos of plane debris, from the WTC 2 hit; 2- Confronts the radar evidence for real planes at/near WTC on 9/11; 3- Confronts evidence from the oscillatory motion of WTC2 following the 'hit by a jet', showing that it was indeed hit by a high-momentum object 4-- confronts evidence for deceleration of the plane (the amount of the deceleration can be argued -- but it is clearly NOT zero) 5 -- the paper is peer-reviewed..."
^ If this is'nt fake, what's he doing wasting time with that junk?
Can anyone validate
Can anyone validate this?
Massive cutbacks at the close of the Cold War reduced NORAD's arsenal of fighters from some 60 battle-ready jets to just 14 across the entire country.
According to LC2E, there was only 14 planes left because the majority of NORAD's jets were out of town participating in exercises.
I'm sure that if Professor
I'm sure that if Professor Jones is wasting time with that junk, it's because Gerard Holmgren and Nico Haupt have been hounding him relentlessly to 'see their side of it'. He probably signed it just to get them off his back.
However, of course now if he
However, of course now if he ever gets media attention again, they're sure to raise the question, "Do you believe no planes struck the towers? Your signature is on this petition."
jones is advocating work on
jones is advocating work on a scholarly paper that will examine the data and evolve into a peer reviewed paper.. i completely agree with them doing this.. unless of course it kept them from working on something more important.. but at the time i think there would be a lot of value to such work.. get it all out on the table.
Holy Shit! The call that
Holy Shit!
The call that sets off the latest alarm ("Another hijack! It's headed towards Washington!") comes from Boston and is wholly confounding: according to Scoggins, the Boston manager, American 11, the plane they believed was the first one to hit the World Trade Center, is actually still flying—still hijacked—and now heading straight for D.C. Whatever hit the first tower, it wasn't American 11.
The chase is on for what will turn out to be a phantom plane.
However, of course now if he
However, of course now if he ever gets media attention again, they're sure to raise the question, "Do you believe no planes struck the towers? Your signature is on this petition."
Jon Gold | | Email | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 1:36 pm | #
his signature is to devote time to researching the issue, not advocating that plane-fakery is true, he has already stated his opinion on that..
I stopped reading when I got
I stopped reading when I got to the part where the author claimed that the FAA could track the planes more effectively than NORAD but wouldn't share information with NORAD or confirm what plane had hit the WTC for several hours.
I'm sure that if Professor
I'm sure that if Professor Jones is wasting time with that junk, it's because Gerard Holmgren and Nico Haupt have been hounding him relentlessly to 'see their side of it'. He probably signed it just to get them off his back.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 1:34 pm | #
Yea that's what I thought too, Gerard Holmgren is actually a Hologram didnÂ’t you know, it's because if you squint slightly Holmgren looks just like Hologram... FACT "planehuggers"!
"his signature is to devote
"his signature is to devote time to researching the issue, not advocating that plane-fakery is true, he has already stated his opinion on that.."
But it doesn't matter what his opinion is, just that his name is associated with that petition.
Are you forgetting just a week ago Nico and Morgan Reynolds were bad mouthing Professor Jones...
Now he's their bestus buddy.
MediaPuppet: I made that
MediaPuppet:
I made that comment last night about Flight 11...
after it hit the towers and one was headed towards Washington, they mentioned Flight 11
Off topic, but does anyone
Off topic, but does anyone know about the document Barrett spoke of on Hannity's show yesterday? Something about a document found that shows Bush knew about 9/11?
Thanks.
We need to cease these days, as the OS is about to tumble.
coincidence theorists: is it
coincidence theorists: is it also a coincidence that Condi and GWBush told they had never thought about a hijacking on 9/11? Liars!
Jones landed in a trap. We
Jones landed in a trap.
We already addressed his 4-5 points and can easily address them again, also in this paper, which is already in progress since weeks, written by another 9/11 scholar.
This isn't even part of the evidence for "9/11 TV fakery", it's part of the analysis of the forensic evidence against "no planes". As usual he mixed up the notions on purpose.
Since both notions will be mentioned in this paper, that's exactly where i wanted him.
I'm glad he signed :)
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correction: "...it's part of
correction:
"...it's part of the analysis of the forensic evidence FOR "no planes"..."
Give me a break, I want a
Give me a break, I want a petition signed stating that until the investigation and trails, all this "no planes" classic conspiracy theory junk crapola will be (just to be courteous to this sh!t) put to one side and the credible issues that can actually GET A CONVICTION concentrated on.
This isnÂ’t like some kind of Chomsky Blowback gatekeeping, this is trying to keep some kind of degree of credibility in the movement. Nico and all these people piss me of because they don't even know the meaning of the word credibility, let alone have any themselves. Yet whether it's valid or not (I personally think it's a f*cking unfunny joke but hey) they try to pull everyone into what at the very very least, looks like a horseshit festival.
We will also address in this
We will also address in this paper, why the passing aircraft "white elephant plane" and the U.S. Military Helicopters (seen on Rick Siegel's footage and partly on US Mainstream), including the WESCAM choppers (all of them part of an ongoing terror drill live exercise) are the missing link for the holy grail on evidence about 9/11TV Fakery and Controlled Demolition.
see also:
Vanity Fair: "Flight11" Tailnumber didn't match, "UA175" "part of an Input" (08/02)
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/2006/08/vanity-fair-flight11-tailnumber-...
Sounds honest of you Nico.
Sounds honest of you Nico. Way to go.
^ Shit I meant to type
^ Shit I meant to type "trials".
Dem, feel free to show up in
Dem,
feel free to show up in NYC in 2 weeks to express your alleged "counter evidence"
Sunday, July 30, 2006
NY9/11 Truth approves 9/11TVFakery event for 08/13
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/2006/07/ny911-truth-approves-911tvfakery...
Jon please email Dr Jones
Jon please email Dr Jones about this shit.
Here's a petition to Dr Jones asking him to maintain his credibility;
dbls
^Fist signature!
However, of course now if he
However, of course now if he ever gets media attention again, they're sure to raise the question, "Do you believe no planes struck the towers? Your signature is on this petition."
ha ha - do you think that if someone signs a petition or writes a thesis about something such as no-planes that they wouldn't be able to explain exactly what they are talking about?
"Terrence, King, JTF,
"Terrence, King, JTF, 911Facts, where are you?"
--
They have been called in to a staff meeting.
Dem, feel free to show up in
Dem,
feel free to show up in NYC in 2 weeks to express your alleged "counter evidence"
Sunday, July 30, 2006
NY9/11 Truth approves 9/11TVFakery event for 08/13
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/...kery- event.html
Nico Haupt aka ewing2001 | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 2:04 pm | #
Nico flying pigs hit the Towers, where's your counter evidence?!
Jon, thanks for this
Jon,
thanks for this input.
My concern is that the investigation of Controlled Demolition will be moved to Europe and the part of the unconventional weaponry won't be addressed.
My other concern is a sabotage of the anniversary protest at GROUND ZERO.
We had here a 2 week blackout in Queens, which could have been a blue print "martial law" exercise for complete Manhattan.
Also, i assume there are already gas devices built into NY Subway (Lockheed obtained MTA contract last year and had several drills on that matter, together with Lawrence Livermore)
Maybe some of you guys should check the background of Professor J. Vambersky and Jose Torero and get in touch with them before someone else does to spin an hangout on it or ties it to AQ (or similar absurde spin, maybe that includes also "Cheney screwed up on wargames, cold bombs became hot etc...")
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=301
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5216788.stm...
Alex Jones Interviews Nafeez
Alex Jones Interviews Nafeez Armed;
http://nw0.info/files/Radio/Alex%20Jones%20Radio%20Archive/2006/July/31/...
I think the tail number
I think the tail number thing is interesting . . . does it provide evidence that there were lots more birds up in the air as part of the war games, and Norad got confused about it.
I mean, even if it was the official passenger jets which crashed into the WTC and Pentagon, its still interesting to me that Norad was getting confused about tail numbers, and the "third jet" elephant plane near the WTC (see ST911.org article) is also interesting.
No?
George Wash wrote: "...I
George Wash wrote:
"...I think the tail number thing is interesting . . . does it provide evidence that there were lots more birds up in the air as part of the war games, and Norad got confused about it...."
Nope. It supports the evidence which was established by team8plus months and years ago (Holmgren): AA11 didn't exist in the BTS database. The exercise and the military operation used a stand-in plane with a different tail number, which was too far away at time of first attack, as proven by military radar and re-established by us:
http://team8plus.org/news.php?item.31
9.6 miles west of the World Trade Center at 8:47
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4282/flight11goespast961oo.jpg
on ABC last night Flight 11
on ABC last night Flight 11 was addressed as "still flying" even after the WTC attack
i think if something goes
i think if something goes down at Ground Zero on 9/11/06 many of us will just stand there or try to get closer to the scene.
I hope nothing happens though.
DHS wrote: "...on ABC last
DHS wrote:
"...on ABC last night Flight 11 was addressed as "still flying" even after the WTC attack..."
Same to UA175. Everything fits logically into the bigger picture of evidence:
UA 175 never arrived in NYC- MSNBC confirmation 12:33 PM, 12:53 PM EST
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3597.last
Nico youÂ’re a paid shill
Nico youÂ’re a paid shill peddling bullshit disinfo, correct?
No one from the 911 Truth
No one from the 911 Truth movement will get within twenty blocks of GZ on 911.
A top US rep will be present requiring "heightened security" meaning only those with GWB creds will be allowed in while the rest of the mass will be in holding pens- excuse me, "free speech zones"- under the FDR Drive.
You can take that to the bank.
Dem, you do your research
Dem,
you do your research (ZERO),
i do mine
http://911closeup.com/nico/911bio.html
I have nothing to argue about today.
The latest developments are very helpful and productive.
It's now Jim Fetzer only at the top of the 9/11 scholars who argues, that remote controlled plane(s) hit the Tower.
Feel free to support him :)
Ed Schultz is a fuckin
Ed Schultz is a fuckin idiot. I used to like this tool.
UP
UP
The commission now needs to
The commission now needs to explain the lack of interest in 'Able Danger' and Sibel Edmonds testimony and a host of other troubling issues. What they tried to hail as the definitive 9/11 report, so clearly lacks credibility and NORAD's reponse is only one small part.
The members of the commission need to be put under as much pressure as possible a.s.a.p. Has anybody got any feedback from the 9/11 families ? Surely the msm can't ignore them now ?
When 911 goes mainstream,
When 911 goes mainstream, for some reason the most improbable theories gain momentum.
Given that FOR SURE there must be some disinfo into the moviment, thats my guess.
Nico, why do you bother
Nico, why do you bother trying to put together theories? That is not anyone's job. We have plenty of evidence of government complicity. That's all we need.
By trying to take it upon yourself to piece together a scenario of what happened on that day, you are only wasting your time, and everyone elses for that matter.
What's driving you? Is it that you want to be the hero who cracks the case?
There is not enough evidence out there to put together a conclusive theory, but again, there is plenty of evidence to prove government complicity.
And Nico, Every damn theory
And Nico,
Every damn theory that is pushed out there only delays our cause by creating confusion - not to mention the lack of credibility. In other words, you are hampering the movement by pushing your theories.
MediaPuppet, Nico knows very
MediaPuppet, Nico knows very well he's hampering the mouvement and then, he push the pedal to the floor. 1+1=2. It's his dirty job to confuse and discredit this mouvement as much as possible. Sad but true.
Nico gets paid well to do
Nico gets paid well to do what he does. aint that right Nico? how do you get your money? you dont have a real job, so tell us who pays you.
MediaPuppet
MediaPuppet writes:
"...Nico, why do you bother trying to put together theories? That is not anyone's job. We have plenty of evidence of government complicity. That's all we need..."
I don't write about anything what we can't prove.
The facts are solid.
We established with "9/11 science and justice alliance" the evidence on controlled demolition and fought for this for years.
Then we can also prove the evidence on 9/11TV Fakery. Both needs each other.
The media compliciity is as important as everything else:
No planes- no kerosene- no hijack -no boxcutters -no cellphone talks etc...
It breaks apart completely the official story.
Jones spin on focussing on the thermite only turns it into a risky hangout. That's why we need a double backup.
You can pray that he isn't used as a shill, otherwise the US GOV will say, the sample was false and/or CD was done by Al Quaeda or any other absurde spin and Jones is gone.
U wanna risk that?
After all, we needed only this below for CD and we needed pressure on investigation on unconventional weaponry (where Jones doesn't go!!):
Classic evidence on CD
(estabslished by "9/11 Science and Justice Alliance" -2002-2006)
1. The free fall speed
2. That burning jet fuel cannot melt steel
3. That the original claim was that the steel melted, and after this was ridiculed, the
official story was changed and they now deny that they ever claimed it.
4. The pulverization of the concrete.
5. That asymmetrical damage cannot cause a symmetrical collapse over that distance.
6. That no steel framed skyscraper has ever before collapsed in such a manner.
7.That there is no evidence of a hot fire
8. The resistance paradox - an even stronger proof than free fall by itself.
9. The WTC 7 squib footage.
Jack Cafferty of CNN's The
Jack Cafferty of CNN's The Stiuation Room just asked about what it means that the Pentagon may have lied about 9/11. drop him a line. i cant find his e-mail address, i'll get back to you if i find it.
Everyone should stop arguing
Everyone should stop arguing and stick to the topic, as to why we are all here.
We must keep this truth movement moving, we cannot afford to argue about such petty things.
Please, please please lets keep moving forward, not backward!
Oh and btw, congrats to
Oh and btw, congrats to everyone at C-Span and Vanity Fair!
www.487ptown.com
Hey, I don't have time to
Hey, I don't have time to see if someone already posted this but last night on Nightline (ABC) I caught the tail end of a segment they did on a "different perspective on 9/11". I just ttried their website and couldn't find anything about last night's segment. Anyway, they were airing some of the NORAD tapes and they told people to go to VanityFair.com for more info and to hear the tapes. Anyway, my point is, I am at least grateful that there is some coverege on this---even if they don't come out and say it was an inside job. I believe anything that comes out that will get people angry and pissed off about what did and didn't occur that day will only help us in the long run.
Ed Schultz called Fetzer a
Ed Schultz called Fetzer a right wing plant. lol. I've listened to Fetzer go on and on about how flawed right wing ideology is... flawed to the core. There is no way he can possibly be a right wing plant. They always give themselves away talking about free market (doublespeak) and how tax cuts for the rich are so good. And they say europe is stagnant and unemployment is high because of high taxes. And blah blah blah. Yeah they're easy to spot.
Schultz is your typical ass kissing pandering gatekeeper. He's far above the likes of a Hannity or a Limbaugh, but he's still an establishment shill. He claims he doesn't want to talk about 9/11 because it will lead to a loss in november, but the dems are going to lose in november regardless. Just look at this chart http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/bonddad/percapitarealdeficitlz1.jpg If republicans can do that and still maintain control, then there is absolutely nothing to lose by talking about 9/11.
No one from the 911 Truth
No one from the 911 Truth movement will get within twenty blocks of GZ on 911.
A top US rep will be present requiring "heightened security" meaning only those with GWB creds will be allowed in while the rest of the mass will be in holding pens- excuse me, "free speech zones"- under the FDR Drive.
You can take that to the bank.
Anonymous | 08.02.06 - 3:10 pm | #
Other Anonymous may well be correct on some/all of this! We should try to find out as much as possible about GZ access ahead to time.
Oh please! We will just move
Oh please!
We will just move somewhere else my friend if that is the case...
You and your neo-con friends cannot stop us!
nico has been doing this
nico has been doing this since day one and he is light years ahead of you morons - TNF/bruce lee/media puppet - if your movement hurts then you guys should go see a doctor.
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Ignore ha.If we coupled
Ignore ha.If we coupled these NORAD revelations with a consensus of structural engineers we would convince all those capable of reflection on these issues.
well then colin you should
well then colin you should do just that. no time like the present, right?
you can ignore me all you want, but i was merely defending nico's name from 3 morons who think he is a disinfo agent when in reality he has furthered 911 knowledge more than the rest of us put together.
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James Ha: sure he did a lot
James Ha: sure he did a lot for the movement, then WHY NOW DOES HE KEEP TALKING ONLY ABOUT ONE SINGLE CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE OUT OF HUNDREDS???
Given that he cant lack the big picture, sounds me disinfo, period.
It's interesting how nervous
It's interesting how nervous you've all gotten. You should be. 911 TRUTH is catching up with you.
"911activist" wrote: "...WHY
"911activist" wrote:
"...WHY NOW DOES HE KEEP TALKING ONLY ABOUT ONE SINGLE CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE OUT OF HUNDREDS???.."
hm, keeps reminding me when i pressed for 9/11 activism on the streets (1 controversial issue during 2001-03)
keeps reminding me when i promoted my PNAC research (1 controversial issue during 2001-02)
keeps reminding me when i pressed for becoming the media, start our own TV shows, podcasts (1 controversial issue during 2002-05)
keeps reminding me when we pressed for evidence on controlled demolition (1 controversial issue during 2002-05)
keeps reminding me when i pressed for evidence on pre 9/11 wargames and terror drills (2001- 2004)
keeps reminding me when i pressed for the message of "9/11 was an Inside Job", also on banners (2001- 2005)
keeps reminding of tons of other stuff and research when "9/11activist" changed his diapers...
keeps reminding me that this so called controversial issue left WAS NOT MENTIONED IN US MEDIA AT ALL!
Maybe "9/11activist" should go back to Ruppert, Hence and Schwarz when things had been less controlled than now until we spoke out about them.
http://911closeup.com/nico/911bio.html
WHY NOW DOES HE KEEP TALKING
WHY NOW DOES HE KEEP TALKING ONLY ABOUT ONE SINGLE CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE OUT OF HUNDREDS???
maybe he's talked the other issues to death. maybe there are now hundreds of other activists talking the other hundreds of issues to death. maybe the entire 911 fairytale revolves around 19 arabs and 4 boeing planes and it's time that someone focused on the planes.
here's a question for you:
since we all saw a 767 hit wtc2
why was the hole in wtc2 smaller than a 767 even though none of the 767 broke off and fell to the street below?
something has to be phony.
is the hole phony?
or are the images of the 767 phony?
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I haven't read through all
I haven't read through all 174 comments on this thread so I'm not sure if this has been covered. Americablog's John Aravosis has actually posted a link to the Vanity Fair Norad article. I find this surprising since in the past he has actively discouraged and even censored and deleted 911 truth discussion. Perhaps, as Mr. Bush once said, we're turning the corner. Americablog has a very large base of readers.
9/11: The NORAD Tapes
by John in DC - 8/02/2006 02:28:00 PM
From Vanity Fair.
Comments (112) | Permanent Link |
Nico... ... the more one
Nico...
... the more one visualizes the now archetypical footage of the UA175 impact the more this becomes the HOLY GRAIL, the cruxifiction, the founding myth, the lode-stone, the (reversePsychology) Zapruder film our times. I am amazed it took me so long.. and even more amazed that its now 5 years.... AND STILL...
The amazing NON CRUMPLING PLANE is by far the biggest HOAX-PROOF-FOR-DUMMIES.. the most amazing DUH!!-moment for normal-people, the "wow-was_I-dumb-of-course-aluminum-planes-do-not-butter-into-a-steel-tower"
lightbulb-over-head sign-of-goddess-of-reason kinda thing.
I bet you thought the same ;-)
Questions:
HOW DID THE airplane-plus-wings IMPRINT shape appear? Well, there sure is a technique.. probably to do with the missile that was the actual thing that hit the South Tower.
Do you think the UA175 may indeed have been the DC9 as described by eye-witnesses as having "engines either side of the tail" and other eye-witness recorded live on HOWARD STERN (?) radio show (4hr mp3) also describide a MD80 (two tail engines)..
..and..
The Dem Bruise Lie Style people need a sane society. They are in the SAME MINDSPACE as the RUnsfelds and PATRIOT-IDIOTS and the other US-black-n-white thinkers who think they have the truth in their pockets... the trouble is... the more one dogmatises oneslef.. in the end one actually HAS to believe once own BS... just in order to not loose face.
I can't wait for LOOSE CHANGE III ...
I heard the elves sing that they are working hard on a noplane segment and a visualization of the Marcus Icke evidence (that no-body here understands) and nobody here took care to read and grasp... instead the PROPHETS of NO-PLANE HATE, the GUARDIANS OF THE MOVEMENT have nothing but childish paroles ... and ad hominem attacks.
The fact THAT so many "normal-american-pie" arseholes HATE the NO PLANE evidence... that fact makes me certain that it is indeed true.
The limited hangouters on
The limited hangouters on this forum didn't even find the 2 smoking gun MP3s for the "no flight"/BTS issue ("AA11"), where even orwellian Jim Fetzer, though pushing the remote control dance would agree on the importance.
Instead noone corrects other hangouter at Randi Rhodes today on his negligence/LIHOP spin and points it out, that nothing was to shot down, because FLIGHT11 didn't exist, wasn't in the BTS and also the NORAD guy CONFIRMED, that they tracked a different Tail Number.
(and what 175 depends, they argued for a simulation unit, which works into the "noPLANE" issue)
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3597.0
Vanity Fair on 9/11 Wargames: "Flight11" Tailnumber didn't match, "175 part of an Input"
Wed Aug 02 2006
http://911closeup.com/nico/085518.mp3
08:55:18BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yeah, he crashed into the World
Trade Center.ROUNTREE: That is the aircraft that crashed into the
World Trade Center?BOSTON CENTER (Scoggins): Yup. Disregard
the—disregard the tail number [given earlier for American 11].
http://911closeup.com/nico/090450.mp3
09:04:50—Is this explosion part of that that we're lookin' at now
on TV?—Yes.—Jesus …—And there's a possible second hijack also—a
United Airlines …—Two planes?…—Get the fuck out …—I think this is
a damn input, to be honest.
i thought that 175 & 11 were
i thought that 175 & 11 were remote controls for a long time - how could they not be, right? - then i realized that out of 4 supposedly highjacked planes, BTS records showed that 2 weren't even scheduled to fly on 9/11, (aa11 & aa77) one of which was represented by a blob (11, does that resemble a 767? ha ha), and the 3rd was reported to have landed in cleveland (ua93). so that's 3 out of 4 boeings unaccounted for. the 4th; (ua175) had the only visual recording of the 4 and analyses of those IMAGES show that the IMAGES are merely cartoon animation hologram cginserts (whatever) of a plane hitting wtc2.
the hole in the pentagon was SMALLER than a 757 and the holes in both wtc were SMALLER than 767's (view my homepage!) and werent even made the very instant that the 767's hit the wtcs - there was a noticeable delay between the impacts and the appearance of the holes. not one speck of either 767 broke off on it's way into the towers, yet the holes are smaller than a 767 really is. the giant 767 tail assembly on the IMAGES of ua175 disappeared into the wtc2 without a trace yet there is no corresponding hole for the giant tail section at all (again homepage).
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what conclusions, if any, has the 911 truth movement drawn from all this?
that examinations of the 9/11 planes are not important and discussions of this are hurting the movement.
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I think the webmaster should
I think the webmaster should try to delete those remarks which disparage religions in a broad stroke. It really is a turn-off to most sensible people, and is a typical shill technique. I would like to know, does the webmaster have the capability to monitor and moderate this board, and if so, does the webmaster agree that these type of remarks should be deleted? If not, you can consider the fact that this website will become less and less effective in bringing truth to 9/11.
That is truly sad. I'm
That is truly sad.
I'm regularly disappointed in these 9/11 truth gatekeepers. Alex Jones, Steve Jones, et al.
I was VERY disappointed in the panel on CSpan. Not that it was on, but that they railed and made soapbox speeches.
They were preaching, not discussing facts and evidence. It was sad.
It was all shameless self promotion and those people in the audience got screwed out of their money.
"Americablog has a very
"Americablog has a very large base of readers. "
this is something I've never understood.
I think they're all gay.
Oh, what I think was sad was
Oh, what I think was sad was that Steve Jones signed the TV fakery petition (whatever that is).
Re; UA 175 I think this is a
Re; UA 175
I think this is a damn input, to be honest.
listen to THE WAY he says it... this guy knows what he is talking about.
What strikes my is that the guys are so cynical .. they are even laughing.
I wish we had the full CD..
IMHO Nico is on the right track.
First, you have to have a theory. Whenever that theory is contradicted by either physical impossiblities or believable eye-witness-RECORDING-ON-THE-DAY
then its time to change your theory.
Working backwards from THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION-FIRE-BALL in the SOUTH TOWER ... we have ... fuck all about the AA11 and UA175.
THE TERRORISM
THE TERRORISM AWARDS!
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