Malloy interviews Tarpley - 8/3/2006

On Thursday, August 3rd, 2006, Mike Malloy gave the longest interview he has has ever done on his radio show, (evenings 10pm-1am EST - Air America), the guest was Webster Griffin Tarpley. The interview is wide-ranging, and covers a healthy portion of Tarpley's 9/11 research and opinions, (as embodied in his book "Synthetic Terror" ) as well as background information about Tarpley's prior research into the Aldo Moro murder (1978) and his freely available online book, "George Bush: the Unauthorized Biography" , (which you can also buy in an up-to-date paperback form online at Progressive Press.com ), that has been a reference volume for books like "Fortunate Son" and Kevin Phillips'"American Dynasty" (although Phillips' reference is less than kind). This is great radio, the interview is broken up with live-callers, and Malloy asks an excellent series of questions of his own, as well as questions that were emailed in to the show.

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Update: Just updated our link above with the commercial free version thanks to TruthSeeker!

after HIS inauguration...

after HIS inauguration...

Sept. 11 investigations

Sept. 11 investigations still going on

WASHINGTON - Five years after the Sept. 11 attacks, investigators are still looking into the government's response to the hijackings, specifically to determine why aviation and military officials inaccurately reported their performance on that day.

The Defense Department inspector general will soon release a report into whether the military's testimony to the Sept. 11 commission was "knowingly false," Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Brian Maka said Thursday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060803/ap_on_go_ot/sept_11_response

I'll donate a tasty c-note to 911blogger if the Pentagon determines that the military testimony to the Omission Commission was knowingly false.

Thanks DHS, reading it

Thanks DHS, reading it now....

http://worldtradecentertruth.

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Journal_4_Jet.pdf

If this article is way off the mark, it may even represent an effort to give the scholars for 911 Truth a bad name and needs to be removed. Again, I'd appreciate if some of you had the time to look into this.

http://www.unitedslavesofamer

Here is an apparent

Here is an apparent refutation of the third plane at the WTC article:

http://www.atfreeforum.com/911studies/viewtopic.php?t=6&sid=65bfa765e5da...

I didn't have time to read it through, but it may be that the writer of the Flying Elephant article got it wrong. *If* so, the article should be removed from the Journal of 9/11 Studies. I hope some of you guys have time to look into this (I won't be able to do so until Monday evening) and notify the scholars, if necessary.

dz, I have a

dz, I have a commercial-free copy of Mike Malloy's 8/03/06 show with Webster Tarpley.

How do I get this to you, if you'd like it for posting?
truthsearching2006 | | Email | 08.04.06 - 11:02 am | #

put it up on putfile.com if you can.. and send in the link via the 'submit news' link on the left panel and someone can email you back.. im at work right now personally.

Just reading Chapter IX of

Just reading Chapter IX of Tarpley's book.

Oh man, this thing seems big...I'm shitting my pants.

Project For a New American

Project For a New American Century and Isreal's War.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/08/03/american_century_lives_on.php

John Gibson and FOX/Barrett

John Gibson and FOX/Barrett videos in AVI format here:
http://rapidshare.de/files/28166945/Fox_videos.rar.html

"Jon, great email to Farrel.

"Jon, great email to Farrel. That sum it up so well."

And it doesn't get him fired. ;)

dz, I have a commercial-free

dz, I have a commercial-free copy of Mike Malloy's 8/03/06 show with Webster Tarpley.

How do I get this to you, if you'd like it for posting?

Is the local mirror

Is the local mirror download of the Mike Malloy show with Webster Tarpley for mp3? And is it without the commercials? All those commercial breaks on Air America drive me nuts. I usually get up and turn the sound all the way down for 5 minutes and then turn it back up again when the show resumes.
Carol | | Email | 08.04.06 - 10:46 am | #

its a 31MB MP3 with commercials.. they sure are long commercials too ;)

if anyone wants to edit it and send it in please feel free.

A new national survey

A new national survey reported this week that more than a third of the American public thinks federal officials aided in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or did nothing to stop the 19 hijackers that day. http://www.dailynewstribune.com/opinion/view.bg?articleid=74504

CONDI WILL BE ON HARDBALL

CONDI WILL BE ON HARDBALL TONIGHT!

EMAIL THE SHOW WITH QUESTIONS!!!

SPREAD THE NEWS!

Ronnied
www.487ptown.com

Is the local mirror

Is the local mirror download of the Mike Malloy show with Webster Tarpley for mp3? And is it without the commercials? All those commercial breaks on Air America drive me nuts. I usually get up and turn the sound all the way down for 5 minutes and then turn it back up again when the show resumes.

New poll on

Bob Kincaid from Head On

Bob Kincaid from Head On Radio talked at length about the NORAD tapes this week. He continues to say that he doesn't think the official CT holds water but that he disagrees with making claims about what DID happen until more evidence is collected.

You can downloaded archived shows from White Rose Society.

Please support Bob and anyone else who has the courage to at least ask questions, and give him a call. He's sure to give you plenty of airtime, especially if you can make your case in a reasonable and intelligent way, i.e. without referring to reptilian aliens or ZOG.

Jon, great email to Farrel.

Jon, great email to Farrel. That sum it up so well. :+:

Not listened to it yet but I

Not listened to it yet but I see Lionel has been talking about 9/11 again - especially in his third hour last night it would seem.

http://wor710.com/pages/48796.php

Dear Mr. Farrell,

Dear Mr. Farrell,

First, I would like to say thank you for standing up to the 61 State Representatives who have decided to try and make an example of Kevin Barrett. That, in and of itself, takes a lot of courage on your part, and don't think it has gone unnoticed.

The reason I'm writing you today is because the Associated Press released an article entitled, "Provost To Instructor: Stop Seeking Publicity." It states that you have asked Dr. Barrett to "stop associating himself with UW-Madison when he's promoting his controversial views."

I don't know if you have watched his appearances or not, but the "theme" presented by the media has been, "Should this Professor be teaching your children?" It was the media who decided to focus on Dr. Barrett's association with UW-Madison. Not Dr. Barrett.

There are a great many Americans who feel the unanswered questions of 9/11 must be answered. Wars are being fought because of that day. Our Civil Liberties are disappearing because of that day. This country is going into bankruptcy because of that day.

It is our duty as citizens of these United States to question that day. If not, then we blindly go into a future that doesn't appear to be one of peace, prosperity, and happiness. That is unacceptable.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Jon Gold

Here's the first edition of

Here's the first edition of Synthetic Terror, 2.3 MB PDF file:

http://rapidshare.de/files/15543831/Tarpley-_911_synthetic_terror_made_i...

Glen Beck's radio "fill in"

Glen Beck's radio "fill in" this morning is taking on us 9-11 truthers

9am-12pm Glenn Beck 888-727-BECK

yeah, i saw that yesterday

yeah, i saw that yesterday MediaPuppet. they really are terrified at what could possibly happen once they lose their grip on power. i love watching them squirm.

alright people, Jon got us

alright people, Jon got us the contact info,now lets all send this guy some e-mail and let him know what we think of him trying to muzzle Kevin Barrett.

Good editorial re;

Well this is just

Patrick V. Farrell Provost

Patrick V. Farrell
Provost and Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs 608 262-1304 pfarrell@provost.wisc.edu

http://www.provost.wisc.edu/

I find it amazing that

I find it amazing that anyone can still pretend that colleges and universities are bastions of subversion and sedition in light of the way Churchill, Barrett, Fetzer and others have been treated for simply voicing f-ing OPINIONS that challenge the "truth" as told to us by the state.

David Horowitz, Lynn Cheney and their like are enemies of the people and of liberty.

yeah,good idea. does anybody

yeah,good idea. does anybody have contact information for the Provost?

The shows that Kevin has

The shows that Kevin has been on present him as a UW Madison Professor. He doesn't go on the television and say, "I'm Kevin Barrett, and I teach at UW Madison, and here are my views regarding 9/11..."

Someone needs to send the

Someone needs to send the Provost a letter warning him that he, the Provost, is making a mockery of education and all upon which America was founded.

cant say im surprised. i

cant say im surprised. i guess this means we wont be seeing too much of Kevin Barrett anymore.

Provost to Instructor: Stop

Provost to Instructor: Stop Seeking Publicity
MADISON, Wis. (AP) _ The provost at UW-Madison has warned a controversial instructor to stop seeking publicity for his opinion that the U.S. government orchestrated the September 11 terrorist attacks.
http://nbc15.madison.com/news/headlines/3485607.html

I don't understand why the

I don't understand why the Pentagon would be the one determining if the military provided false testimony. That seems to be the whole problem. All of these criminals are investigating THEMSELVES. It's one big, fat-ass shell game.

Unlike Democratic Party

Unlike Democratic Party shills like Franken, Springer, Schultz, Koz and Atrios, Mike doesn't aspire to be a "player" in the media or inside the Beltway, so he can afford to take chances.

timbermonkey | 08.04.06 - 7:59 am | #
exactly. Malloy is the man.

That's the best idea they

That's the best idea they had to do with it: lock them up in a glass box of a museum exhibit, when everybody wants to know what damned reaIIy happened!!

First, Dylan says they are just pictures at the museum, not the actual black box parts.

Second, if this is real, then people need to get on this and figure out what the hell is going on.

"Evidence please..." Bush

"Evidence please..."

Bush made Saddam "Topic A" 10 days after hid inauguration, and 8 months before 9/11, and asked his cabinet to "Go find me a way" to invade Iraq.

Considering he had to ask his principals to "find a way" to invade Iraq, that's a good indication that there wasn't a good enough reason to do it.

Not until...

>Look what Dylan got ahold

>Look what Dylan got ahold of:
>Pictures of the flight data/voice >recorder boxes of flight 11/175,

That's the best idea they had to do with it: lock them up in a glass box of a museum exhibit, when everybody wants to know what damned reaIIy happened!!

2) Bush and Cheney were

2) Bush and Cheney were involved in aiding and abetting and possibly planning the events of 9/11

Evidence please...

Gibson conveniently avoids

Gibson conveniently avoids mentioning that there are still many people who hate Bush but believe anything the administration says about 9/11, and that there are people like Morgan Reynolds who actually supported Bush until the evidence changed their minds.

Look what Dylan got ahold

Look what Dylan got ahold of:
Pictures of the flight data/voice recorder boxes of flight 11/175, and pictures of seatbelts, plane wreckage, etc from the WTC planes:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9604&...

Regarding John Gibson and

Regarding John Gibson and his insane and maniacal "People don't believe 9/11 story b/c they hate Bush" propaganda out of Fox:

Facts:

1) Yes, Bush is disliked. (Why should it be otherwise?)

2) Bush and Cheney were involved in aiding and abetting and possibly planning the events of 9/11 - just as they are doing in the war involving Israel.

3) Just because some people and many corporations and many establishment institutions like Bush and turn a blind eye to the murders by his Administration DOES NOT excuse him and his Administration from their involvement in 9/11.

Scare campaign against

Scare campaign against Hezbollah echoes buildup to Iraq invasion

http://www.workers.org/2006/world/hezbollah-0810/

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!

Unlike Democratic Party

Unlike Democratic Party shills like Franken, Springer, Schultz, Koz and Atrios, Mike doesn't aspire to be a "player" in the media or inside the Beltway, so he can afford to take chances.

I've been listening to him for about 4 years, and I thought this was one of his best shows.

Tarpley's scholarship has always impressed me, and I think he did a great job covering a lot of ground tonight. He had an opportunity to get the information out in a larger forum and he made good use of it. Barrett and others could take a lesson from him.

If I had one armchair criticism, it would be that anyone representing 911 Truth should cover about 10 basic pieces of evidence contradicting the official CT before they start discussing "what really happened" or any other topics, like the "invisible government."

The 9/11 commission needs to

The 9/11 commission needs to subjected to a criminal probe itself.

The 9/11 commission needs to

The 9/11 commission needs to be subjected to a criminal probe itself.

the media blackout (not

the media blackout (not about 9/11, but similar) in a nutshell, by arcticbeacon.com today:

Trying to get the Leo Wanta story published in an American newspaper or broadcast on a television station is like trying to fight a grizzly bear with pocket knife. And trying to get top U.S. officials to talk, those high ranking officials caught with their scummy hands in the trillion dollar cookie jar, is like trying to get a cheating husband to admit he used the mortgage money on a hooker.

9/11 Commission Considers

9/11 Commission Considers Criminal Probe
The 9/11 commission is considering a possible Justice Department criminal probe, after hearing what they are calling “false” testimony from Pentagon officials. Members of the commission are charging that the information they received from the Department of Defense about the timeline of events on September 11th, was knowingly false. They say the FAA and NORAD officials lied about the government’s initial response to the hijackings.

- sounds good, but what can you expect from the whitewash-commission? Another whitewash, of course.

Playing into the Zionist

Playing into the Zionist scenario for 9/11 just enables them to hide behind the real victims even moreso. You might as well say "every Jew is responsible for 9/11", because that is how it is spun by these disgusting people.
Rumpl4skn | 08.04.06 - 12:24 pm | #
exactly. well put.
Chris | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 1:25 pm | #

True, but Zionists are homicidal maniacs. Let's call a spade a spade.

Repost: Must Watch! ABC

Repost: Must Watch!
ABC NIGHTLINE AUG 1, 2006
NORAD 9/11
PART 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef8IY3zKEcc
PART 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vef2klsYRY4

Why won't Loose Change talk

Why won't Loose Change talk about Israel/Zionists?

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?p=14174

because Israel/Zionists are

because Israel/Zionists are not the only ones responsible for 9/11. thats a diversion, its MUCH bigger than one sect of people. should Loose Change have included more info on the MOSSAD and AIPAC etc.? sure, i wouldnt have minded at all, but be wary of anyone who says that Israel/Zionists are exclusively responsible for 9/11.

The Specter/Cheney Bill(S.

The Specter/Cheney Bill(S. 2453) will make warrantless domestic spying permanently legal!

The legal standard of, "probable cause" will be erased from the Constitution.

Bill Includes warrantless eavesdropping of all communications, and the data mining and profiling of every U.S citizen.

If war is declared, warrantless searches of all homes and businesses will be legal.

Call or fax your Senator and tell him or her "NO" on S. 2453

WWW.BORDC.ORG

Ronnied
www.487ptown.com

as usual, there goes Specter

as usual, there goes Specter caving at the last minute. the guy NEVER misses an oppurtunity to talk tough but act like a pussy.

Been clicking control+C and

Been clicking control+C and emailing everyone this like crazy in past 2 days.

As you may have already heard the recent news that broke out...

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon Allegations Brought to Inspectors General

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Page A03

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR200608...

Now that it's been publicly established that NORAD/United States Air Force have lied to the commission during the testimony in 2004 and the fact Pentagon knew and covered it up...what reasons do you have to believe in the official story of 9/11?

What some of these recent reports from the mainstream meda have failed to mention is the multiple wargame exercises that was planned and scheduled on the morning of 9/11 like this one reported by the USA Today for example:

"USA Today reports that at this time, a joint FBI/CIA anti-terrorist task force that specifically prepared for this type of disaster is on a training exercise in Monterey, California [on 9/11]. Consequently, as of late Tuesday, with airports closed around the country, the task force still hasn

Ugh the post got cut off.

Ugh the post got cut off. Never mind. My tmobile sidekick sucks.

Zionist animals are

Zionist animals are bombarding/killing civlians in Lebanon non-stop today! Supplies & food will soon be cut-off to the entire country!

Ugh the post got cut off.

Ugh the post got cut off. Never mind. My tmobile sidekick sucks.
geggy | | 08.04.06 - 12:08 pm | #

love my sk3! ;) had one since the first model.

Go to this museum

Go to this museum (Smithsonian?) and leave Deception Dollars around on the benches and railings and watch security go nuts looking for you! Did you know that a DD fits right into the tray of an ATM machine?

DZ That's great! I'm

DZ

That's great! I'm currently on my 2nd model. Only if everyone in america owned a sidekick or blackberry with internet browser, they'd all be better informed of what's truly going on in this world.

Zionism as pertaining to

Zionism as pertaining to 9/11 is not only wrong, it's dangerously stupid. SOme of the people I see as "The Perps" are indeed Jewish, but they're the uber-powerful Jews who play the psy-op of 'anti-Semitism' like a friggin' Stradivarius.

Yes, the holocaust was real, many Jews suffered, but the Nazis were put into power by the bankers, some of whom were wealthy German Jews. That these people continue to associate themselves with hard-working, middle-class, ordinary Jews who were persecuted under Hitler is the biggest social profanity I can imagine.

These people encourage and most likely even fund entities such as skinheads and Neo-Nazis, simply because as long as there are lunatics who attack all Jews, they can dishonestly include themselves in that group. Find me a website article that is critical of the Rothschi|ds that doesn't feature - somewhere on the page - a stereotypical anti-Semitic condemnation of all Jews as evil, ruthless, murderous or war-mongering. The international bankers will take all the critisism they can get that can be easily attributed to obvious bigots - it's 'good for business'.

Playing into the Zionist scenario for 9/11 just enables them to hide behind the real victims even moreso. You might as well say "every Jew is responsible for 9/11", because that is how it is spun by these disgusting people.

As far as Lebanon - don't be

As far as Lebanon - don't be fooled. That conflict has nothing to do with Israeli aggression or Zionism. It has to do with creating another massive humanitarian crisis, so the global entities can be installed as 'peacekeepers' - permanently, just as they will in Iraq once the NeoCon circus has played out.

With the subtext of tons of arms sales for the defense industry, of course. But as you can see, the Israelis are not been shown as victors, or even as succeeding to any degree. The whole thing is designed to turn into Quagmire Du Jour.

dz, The Mike Malloy file of

dz,

The Mike Malloy file of 8/03/06 with Webster Tarpley without commercials is now at:

http://www.putfile.com/truthsearching

-TS

Well put Rumpl4skn

Well put Rumpl4skn

TS, hrm, can't download from

TS,

hrm, can't download from there.. doh!

send us an email via the contact link and we will give you an email address.. you can then use yousendit.com to send us the file.. i would just post the email address here, but we get spammed something fierce.

dz, done!

dz,

done!

from the transcript of the

from the transcript of the Michael Bronner (VF reporter) interview on yesterday's Hannity & Colmes:

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Michael, you say the Pentagon deliberately misled the 9/11 commission and the American public. How so?

BRONNER: I don't say that specifically. I say that — basically what I tried to do in this piece is digest the material, second of all, put it in context within the timeline, and make this room come alive.

COLMES: You indicate that we were misled, correct?

BRONNER: The 9/11 commission members that I talked to certainly believe they were misled and were extremely angry.

COLMES: Misled specifically about, for example, whether or not there was command to shoot down United 93?

BRONNER: Well, the military and members of the administration imply after the attack for months and even years that they were watching United 93 for a long time, that they were debating. They made the tough decision to shoot it down. But as we learn in the tapes, the military didn't know about United 93 until four minutes after it crashed.

COLMES: So the administration purposely lied to the American people and the 9/11 commission about the timeline, why?

BRONNER: I don't say that specifically. The 9/11 commission members I spoke to feel that was the case.

COLMES: The timeline show in these tapes would bear that out. Wouldn't it?

BRONNER: It would seem so.

COLMES: And what would be the motivation not to share to the American public or the 9/11 commission the truth of what was happening?

BRONNER: We know from the tapes that the civilian controller who first hears that there are problems on United 93 — he actually heard the struggle in the cockpit and made valiant efforts to try to get other planes to help see where that plane was. He passed that information up the chain, somehow no one in the FAA told the military until...

HANNITY: You have no direct evidence that anybody purposely lied?

BRONNER: That's what the Department of Transportation and the Department of Defense inspector generals are looking into.

HANNITY: But there is no evidence or proof?

BRONNER: There is clear evidence that the timeline that the military presented at the first hearing is wrong.

HANNITY: That doesn't mean...

BRONNER: No. That's why the investigations...

HANNITY: All right. Appreciate it. Thanks for being with us.

BRONNER: You bet.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207062,00.html
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nice job by Hannity to pounce and deflect any chance of something interesting being discussed, and naturally, nice job by Colmes to allow it.

Wow!!! Lionel's final hour

Wow!!!

Lionel's final hour last night has him much more convinced of 911 being an inside job than I have ever heard him before.

"This thing stinks" he says.

He says he flew back from Florida at the weekend with his cell phone on all the way and was unable to make one call.

He talks to "Joe from Alaska" whose cousin was a fireman at GZ.

http://wor710.com/pages/48796.php

He also says something about trying to get Lisa Guiliani on his show to talk about her conversation with Todd Beamer.

Lionel would be a great lawyer to have on the prosecution team come the glorious day.

:-)

>I don't understand why the

>I don't understand why the Pentagon would be the one determining if the military provided false testimony. That seems to be the whole problem. All of these criminals are investigating THEMSELVES. It's one big, fat-ass shell game.
truthsearching2006 | 08.04.06 - 9:21 am | #

What's not to understand? That's the point!

The fact they are stonewalling, pretending to investigate, when they are not....if we had a decent Prosecutor - he/she would be saying that behavior indicates guilt.

But, of course, there are people who believe the government's blatant illogicality can be ascribed to the government's ignorance, incompetence, and "they just don't know any better - poor things."

Ha.

My question is why Government should be based on trust.

In private life, if anyone says "Trust me," you immediately wonder "Why?"

People have a authoritarian complex. They just believe whatever stupid lie and cover-up the government pulls out of its magic black box. It's like misplaced deference in an abusive family situation. People feel the government is their extended family, and that there is some reason to trust the situation.

Even truthseeker saying he/she doesn't understand? As though there is something strange about the government's betrayal.

"They are not supposed to do that."

The surprise itself shows the ingrained expectation of something better.

Everybody thinks, "If that was really going on, lots of people would notice." And by implication, "It must be O.K."

Well the very big joke is on us and the world.

People should get over their surprise and figure out what to do about it. I, for one, am stymied. The "Media" have taken control and have complete control of the unfolding of what was obviously planned from the start to be a "limited hang-out."

I just called my Senator

I just called my Senator (Feingold) about the Spector bill. In talking to the aid I mentioned the CSPAN Symposium broadcast. He said he didn't personally catch it, but people have been calling ALL MORNING about it.

I gave him the basic run down of the coverup and asked him what he thought of it. He said he's not allowed to give his opinion, but the callers were all saying the same things I was saying about 9/11. Inside job.

"Lionel would be a great

"Lionel would be a great lawyer to have on the prosecution team come the glorious day."

Where is Lawyers for 9/11 Truth?

Props to Vikki. The Media

Props to Vikki. The Media is the ultimate weapon, and all we have access to are some useless bullets.

Great news Adam

Great news Adam

Look at the Lebanon Crisis -

Look at the Lebanon Crisis - this week I heard the MSM decribing Israel's situation as a result of "poor planning."

Get that - Israel was "unprepared" for a terrorist group suddenly shooting at it. What parallel, bizarro-world universe does this information come from?

Incompetance - the one size fits all excuse for the government op that is the sub-op of the globalist scam. Allow one ideological side to do the dirty work, blame it on their incompetance, then swing the other side into power... rinse and repeat.

Zionism as pertaining to

Zionism as pertaining to 9/11 is not only wrong, it's dangerously stupid.

No you are wrong! Zionism ≠ Jewish!

Israel is stolen land & land of endless war, much like George Orwell wrote about in 1984. Isreal keeps the NeoCons & military/industrial complex in booming business.

Zionism ≠ Jewish, nor does

Zionism ≠ Jewish, nor does Israel ≠ Jewish.

Numerous Jews are rightly

Numerous Jews are rightly against both Zionism & Isreal, is what I meant to say^.

No you are wrong! Zionism

No you are wrong! Zionism ≠ Jewish!

Israel is stolen land & land of endless war, much like George Orwell wrote about in 1984. Isreal keeps the NeoCons & military/industrial complex in booming business.
Anonymous | 08.04.06 - 1:08 pm | #
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If u read my post carefully enough, you'll notice I referenced the perception of Zionism, not historical realities or literary definitions.

I don't refute your statement. But ask anyone on the street what Zionism is, and you'll get "Jews." That is our reality.

Playing into the Zionist

Playing into the Zionist scenario for 9/11 just enables them to hide behind the real victims even moreso. You might as well say "every Jew is responsible for 9/11", because that is how it is spun by these disgusting people.
Rumpl4skn | 08.04.06 - 12:24 pm | #
exactly. well put.

that is great news Adam.

that is great news Adam. Feingold is one of the better ones.not that thats saying much.

Well, looks like everyone in

Well, looks like everyone in Phoenix can relax. The police have caught, tried and convicted the 2 snipers today, it's all over already. Case closed (where's Posner when u need him?). And not only that, but they've been high five-ing each other for the past 30 minutes over their tremendous work and lack of incompetance.

Faith in government has been restored! Happy days are here again! Police have their shit together! Yayy!

Pardon my endless cynicism, but.... why does this look to me like Norton having a cure for virus already uploaded that hit the net 30 seconds ago?

Posner was actually on

Posner was actually on Olbermann last night, shilling for the official story and pushing his latest government cover-up piece of trash book "Why America Slept". HA. hate that bastard. i wonder who pays him.

Posner was actually on

Posner was actually on Olbermann last night, shilling for the official story and pushing his latest government cover-up piece of trash book "Why America Slept". HA. hate that bastard. i wonder who pays him.
Chris | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 1:33 pm | #
..............................

Ooh! Ooh! Call on me, I know! I know this one! :)

alright, let me have it.

alright, let me have it.

Posner, who was at one time

Posner, who was at one time a strong supporter of Al Gore for the 2000 presidential election, wrote a Wall Street Journal editorial on September 25, 2001 reversing his opinion of George W. Bush in light of the September 11th attacks. [1]

HA!

Incompetance - the one size

Incompetance - the one size fits all excuse for the government op that is the sub-op of the globalist scam. Allow one ideological side to do the dirty work, blame it on their incompetance, then swing the other side into power... rinse and repeat.
Rumpl4skn | 08.04.06 - 1:04 pm | #
___________________________________--
Voilà! What will it take to overthrow that system? I believe the task is gargantuan!

Truth or conspiracy: JFK

Truth or conspiracy: JFK

Gerald (the Poisoner) Posner

Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:09:12 -0400
Subject: Truth or conspiracy: JFK

Well, here is Gerald (the Poisoner) Posner hard at work. Looks like someone has been giving him hand lessons. And Katie Couric, whose father is CIA, on NBC, whose father is General Electric, showing us the Zapruder film "for the first time on NBC" proudly (never mind that it's 38 years since the event happened).

But the question is, why do they need to do this now? Admittedly, it's still their worst PR and damage control failure in years (unless just maybe they wanted us to know back then and want us to forget now?), and the real majority who disbelieve them is nearer 90% as Posner guesses it would be. The Zogby poll had to be stacked somehow to get 68% for conspiracy.

"We've been looking at this all week" says Katie, meaning their attempt at mixing aliens, fake moon landings and the conspiracy to kill JFK under the twisted rubric of "Truth or Conspiracy".
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/posner.html

Posner, who was at one time

Posner, who was at one time a strong supporter of Al Gore for the 2000 presidential election, wrote a Wall Street Journal editorial on September 25, 2001 reversing his opinion of George W. Bush in light of the September 11th attacks. [1]

Chris | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 1:42 pm | #
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I believe the reversal of opinion on Bush due to 9/11 is just starting, and it is going to be a tsunami. :)

As far as who's paying Posner, I was trying to sound obvious. He's paid by either the globalists themselves, or their arms of enforcment in the intel agencies - CIA/FBI/DIA/DoD/ISI/Mossad/SaudiSS, take your pick.

clearly CIA, not sure who

clearly CIA, not sure who else. it all funnels through the same places anyway. blood money.

"We've been looking at this

"We've been looking at this all week" says Katie, meaning their attempt at mixing aliens, fake moon landings and the conspiracy to kill JFK under the twisted rubric of "Truth or Conspiracy".
Chris | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 1:47 pm | #
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Area 51 - the gov't well of bullsh*t they act falsely suspicious around in order to have certified loons with whom to associate anyone who disbelieves any ops they really are pulling off.

Would that be rubric's cube? :)

How unfortunate that Keith

How unfortunate that Keith would have The Poisoner on instead of Griffin!

Question- If Rummy resigns, would he get any amount of immunity?

Question- If Rummy resigns,

Question- If Rummy resigns, would he get any amount of immunity?
Mark Etheredge | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 2:02 pm | #
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Most likely. One design of the NeoCon play act is to make sure these guys never pay any real price - firstly because they were good boys and did what they were told, but mostly because this endless "getting away with it" scam is part of the "pissing off the Left" they're doing to energize the Democratic vote in November. (And if getting away with it doesn't sufficiently anger everyone, they can always throw in a Medal of Freedom to guarantee the outrage.)

They don't want to have to resort to the Diebold machines to get the Left back into power, unless they have to. They'd much rather just see a legitimate victory. (What a concept!)

Bush is 100% behind the

Bush is 100% behind the Israelis! Need I say more?

Wake-up!!!

George W. Bush is a pawn in

George W. Bush is a pawn in this game - he's the new Bad Guy Pro Wrestler who walks out to the chorus of Boos! The blatantly "stupid" guy who's too dumb to have been involved with 9/11, too dumb to know how to handle Katrina, too dumb to pick a Def. Sec. who knows how to prosecute an occupation. Incompetance, incompetance, incompetance. Bullshit - this is by design. Read Sun Tzu - always look to your enemy like you're an idiot.

This is all political theater - all ideological left-right warfare is a psy-op cover for the continuing loss of sovereignty of this country. Stop buying into the puppet show.

They're imploding the GOP now because the Dems are going to ride in over the horizon and "fix everything." Except for one problem - Pres. Hillary and the Dems are as bought and paid for as the GOP, and there will be no let up to the phony War on Terra. The only diff you'll see with the Left back in power is more gun control. And anyone who still thinks that's a good idea deserves the ass-reaming they're getting. I know that I used to buy it, and I'm not particularly stupid either.

Sandy, I love listening to

Sandy,

I love listening to Lionel. He has a truly great show. Would love to see him replace Al, Jerry or Sam on Air America.

Look what Dylan got ahold

Look what Dylan got ahold of:
Pictures of the flight data/voice recorder boxes of flight 11/175, and pictures of seatbelts, plane wreckage, etc from the WTC planes:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loos...0&#entry6507425

A lot of heat on that thread including at least one gov't IP who's been shilling on that site for months and all of a sudden- no mor forum.

Another juicy piece of the puzzle.

Sam is still on Air America?

Sam is still on Air America? I haven't been paying attention to anything other than Malloy and ocassionally Randi. Thought Sam had been fired. Was he just moved around?

The Ed Shultz show is about

The Ed Shultz show is about to start. Let's remind him of the results of his poll from yesterday.

"Do you believe the US Government attacked itself on 9-11?"

Yes 69%
No 31%

Call Ed at 1-877-934-6833

http://www.wegoted.com/polls/index.asp

Re: Zionism Here is the best

Re: Zionism

Here is the best resource I've found on the subject;

http://alfredlilienthal.com/

A bad-ass Jew for Truth if I've ever seen one. His book, "The Zionist Connection II: What Price Peace?" is a classic.

In other news, this just in, the 9/11 Commission Report is bogus.

In other news, this just in,

In other news, this just in, the 9/11 Commission Report is bogus.
reprehensor | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 3:03 pm | #
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What, no link? :)

Republican resignation &

Republican resignation & Amnesty .A Democratic America with Hillary as President.A new False flagand a Third World War.Martial Law and a Military Draft.Suspension of Elections . Real Terror attacks. No freedom of Speech or Internet. No Thank you , 911 Truth Please.

I love Ed Shiltz's wording

I love Ed Shiltz's wording on his polls. "Do you believe Guantanamo Bay should be shut down?"

No, I don't. Just shut down the prison, the bay should definitely stay open. I believe that may even be an unrealistic goal.

Rumpl, Sam is still there,

Rumpl,

Sam is still there, in his same time slot (changes based on when the market decides to air it). Janeanne has left the show however (HUGE loss).

I used to be a fan of Sam Seder until it became clear that he's apparantly unable to say, "9-11". He just ignores the issue... much like Al Frankin does (a pox on both of them).

Sam's got a huge jones for ousting "Lieberman" which is cool, but it seems to be the centerpiece of his whole show. I don't like Lieberman either, but let's face it, we got bigger fish to fry (Hint, "9/11, 9/11, 9/11"). Plus this oust Lieberman thing can back fire on the democrats as a party in ways they may not have anticipated. Let's remember who still controls the voting machines (the Repuglicans), thus the outcome of the vote is still a huge question mark. AAR needs to focus more on 9/11.

Sam also is uncomfortably fond of Markos Maulitsas at Daily Kos. We know Kos' 9/11 policy.

It not surprising that you thought Sam was already gone. He probably should be.

Ed just signed on... the

Ed just signed on... the first thing out of his mouth was the Lieberman poll.

What about yesterday's 9/11 poll Ed? You know if it had swung the other way, he would be commenting on it.

Leiberman's another obvious

Leiberman's another obvious clown. He's there to demonstrate to the Dems how they will be unceremoniously castrated if they cave in to the Right's policies in order to court the middle and win elections.

We need "Liberal-looking" Democrat puppets in office in November. Otherwise, the party - and the 2-party sham system - will start to disintegrate, and they can't have that.

Ed just mentioned his 9/11

Ed just mentioned his 9/11 Poll. He's suggesting that "the bloggers" tilted the poll. He claims that the poll received a larger than usual number of hits. Well they don't show the number of votes so I guess we have to take his word on that. Perhaps this is an issue your listeners are passionate about "Mr. Schultz"! Ever think of that? He says it was "fun".

At least he had the stones to discuss it, if only briefly and condescendingly.

Jon. GW. Pocky. one of you

Jon. GW. Pocky. one of you guys had like some type of list before, well i think it was one of you, but the list was about the
factual stuff the incriminates them like:
Pakistani Connection, Sibel Edmonds, NORAD (war games), etc etc

then it was Controversial but still proveable like: controlled demolition, wtc7, molten metal

and then the list went on to more Controversial less provable etc etc..

if it wasnt one of you guys im sorry.

Very glad to see some

Very glad to see some intelligent dialogue about Zionism on 911blogger, my favorite site. I have been reading this site daily for six months, though I rarely post.

I have been a serious 911 activist since Spring 2003. I was slow out of the gates, because I knew in my mind very clearly something was totally fishy about 9/11 in real time as I watched live that morning what I could see very clearly - and said to my friend sitting next to me before the demolition of the first tower was even complete - was controlled demolition of the towers.

I realize it is not great to make such long posts, so I promise I won't post again for a while. But since this thread has some other dialogue about Zionism, I would like to re-post what I wrote on an earlier thread that I don't know if many people had a chance to read. So...

Zionism is unquestionably a major and central aspect of 9/11 and what is happeing in our nation today. This question about understanding the significance of Zionism to 9/11 truth is very, very important.

On this mega-topic of whether there is or is not a valid critique to be made of Zionism, I have spent about 200 hours researching it. So I am not the ultimate authority but I can say a few things that seem quite clear to me.

1) The key starting point is to TOTALLY separate attempts to understand the history of Zionism from being anti-Jew or anti-Judaism. Many of my closest friends throught my life have been Jewish, and I am just not in any way anti-Jew. Some of the most important researchers in this area are themselves Jews.

2) The history of Zionism is a big part of going deeper down the rabbit hole to understand not only 9/11 but what is happening in America generally. Virtually all of the PNAC people are Zionists. I know of no exeptions. Some are citizens of Israel, such as probable 9/11 mastermind 'Rabbi' Dov Zakheim.

3) The founders of Zionism (late 19th/early 20th century) are unarguably documented to be direct associates of the Rothschild dynasty that has been at the heart of global financial control for over 200 years. And in their own words they have no respect for the lives of Jewish people generally. They have been quite willing to further their agenda for control by the sacrifice of the lives of many, many thousands of Jews in ways too shocking to get into here. The original Zionists are in no way spiritual followers of Judaism in any way that the vast majority of Jews would recognize or identify with.

There is much more to say, but that is enough for now. Suffice to say that this subject leads to the development of an ability to understand how 9/11 and false-flag ops generally fit into a systematic implementation of what can refer to as 'the New World Order' and it is not a pretty picture folks. AND it is just as abusive and destructive of 99% of Jews as it is of everyone else. The majority of the people at the top of world control of banking, media, and entertainment who appear to be 'Jews' are in fact highly anti-Judaism anti-human anti-Americans who are either 'executives' or functionaries of the 'They' and 'Them' we all have had a basic awareness of almost since birth. Yes my friends, a large portion of the world controllers are Zionists. And to point this out is not in the least anti-Jewish. In fact it is very pro-Jew, and pro-Judaism because Jews are just as manipulated and harmed by these despicable people as everyone else. And my close Jewish friends are in total agreement that any honest consideration of the meaning of the practice of tikkun olam, or 'repair of the world', as Jews are called to be involved with, includes this very painful honest examination of the realities of the founders and controllers of Zionism.

The post by criticalthinker

The post by criticalthinker & the last 2 posts by Rupl4skn are right on the money!

Look what Dylan got ahold

Look what Dylan got ahold of:
Pictures of the flight data/voice recorder boxes of flight 11/175, and pictures of seatbelts, plane wreckage, etc from the WTC planes:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loos...0&#entry6507425

A lot of heat on that thread including at least one gov't IP who's been shilling on that site for months and all of a sudden- no mor forum.

Another juicy piece of the puzzle.
Anonymous | 08.04.06 - 2:59 pm | #

I am very interested in what tactics the gov't shill was using. Can you please describe what he was doing?

(BTW, the link you posted doesn't work.)

Jon. GW. Pocky. one of you

Jon. GW. Pocky. one of you guys had like some type of list before, well i think it was one of you, but the list was about the
factual stuff the incriminates them like:
Pakistani Connection, Sibel Edmonds, NORAD (war games), etc etc
then it was Controversial but still proveable like: controlled demolition, wtc7, molten metal and then the list went on to more Controversial less provable etc etc..if it wasnt one of you guys im sorry.
yizzo | 08.04.06 - 3:32 pm | #

Gold knows all about this stuff, but he rarely if ever brings it up. Why, I don't know.

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