Jersey Girls Open Fire on 9/11 Commission (again)
Statement Regarding Pentagon’s Alleged Deception
August 4, 2006
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Mandate of the 9/11 Commission
The 9/11 Independent Commission was established by law to “... ascertain, evaluate, and report on the evidence developed by all relevant governmental agencies regarding the facts and circumstances surrounding the attacks; ...“make a full and complete accounting of the circumstances surrounding the attacks, and the extent of the United States' preparedness for, and immediate response to, the attacks...â€
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Recent stories in the Washington Post, the New York Times, as well as the release of the transcripts of the NORAD tapes in Vanity Fair, clearly show that the 9/11 Commission failed in its duties.
According to current reports, the Commission knew that it had been deceived by NORAD. In May 2003, representatives of NORAD testified, in full regalia, before the 9/11 Commission equipped with an easel and visual aids to highlight NORAD’s timeline for the day of 9/11. In June 2004, NORAD testified again, changing its previous testimony. The new timeline blamed the lack of military response on late notification by the FAA. The Commissioners never determined or explained why there was a discrepancy between the two sets of testimonies. Governor Kean is quoted in the Washington Post article as saying "we, to this day don't know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth ... It's one of those loose ends that never got tied".
The fact that the Commission did not see fit to tie up all loose ends in their final report or to hold those who came before them accountable for lying and/or making misleading statements puts into question the veracity of the entire Commission’s report. Individuals who came before the Commission to testify, after NORAD’s appearance, had no reason to state the truth. It was abundantly clear that there would be no repercussions for any misrepresentations.
Furthermore, the lack of tenacity and curiosity, by the Commissioners themselves, to determine why NORAD had deceived them is unconscionable. Knowing full well that the lack of military response was such a critical failure, begs the question of whether that same lack of tenacity and curiosity was applied to other critical areas of the 9/11 investigation.
We fought to establish the 9/11 Independent Commission because we believed that American citizens would be better served if our nation’s vulnerabilities were uncovered and then fixed.
Unfortunately, once again the failure to fully and properly investigate all areas, not follow all leads and not address the need for accountability, whether it be bureaucrats lying at a hearing or personnel with questionable performance of assigned duties, continues to leave this Nation and its citizens vulnerable and at risk.
The 9/11 Commission was derelict in its duties. What we needed from them was a thorough investigation into the events of September 11th. Inexcusably, five years later, we still do.
Patty Casazza
Monica Gabrielle
Mindy Kleinberg
Lorie Van Auken
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"The 9/11 Commission was
"The 9/11 Commission was derelict in its duties."
Line of the day.
under-statement of the year.
under-statement of the year.
NOW should be a good episode
NOW should be a good episode tonight:
Is the press still fulfilling its obligation to the truth?
In a thoughtful conversation, veteran journalist Orville Schell engages NOW's David Brancaccio on the current challenges facing the media and how this affects the public and democracy.
"The press has been accused of being the lap dog in the run-up to the war ... we gave the government the benefit of the doubt, I think, to the detriment of the nation as it turned out," he says.
Schell, who is the dean of the Graduate School of Journalism at the University of California, Berkeley, describes the dilemma journalists face when reporting the news in wartime.
"[Reporters] know if they just come up with bad news, they're going to be pilloried. They know their news outlets will be criticized. Advertisers will abandon," he says. This, he says, has made journalists more timid, cautious, and incapable of standing up to criticisms. Information is being kept from Americans, resulting in a democratic deficit, he says.
Schell weighs in on the White House's criticism of some American media outlets, most recently the New York Times. The Times came under renewed fire in June after publishing details of an effort by the Bush administration to collect bank records of suspected terrorists.
"We've entered into a very sort of dangerous and, for me, troubling time when the press have come under great attack," Schell said.
Is the Fourth Estate being manipulated into biased coverage of the war on terror and the White House in particular?
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/231/index.html
NOW poll: Does the American
NOW poll:
Does the American press do a good job covering our government?
Yes 4%
No 94%
Not Sure 1%
http://www.pbs.org/now/
Hahahahahahhahahah good
Hahahahahahhahahah good poll, chris.
Yeah hot damn... no one
Yeah hot damn... no one disagrees with that point.
I have a request from
I have a request from people. Blast this statement out to the media. Thanks.
I took a closer look at
I took a closer look at Thompson's exercises timeline today. The wargame exercises scheduled on 9/11 were designed the keep fighter jets and anti-terrorism operatives off and out of range of the hijacked plane's path and it's destinations. Flight simulations of WTC attacks weren't unusual up until that date when they were confused whether if it was a part of the exercise or if it was real hence the slow responses.
Hey Geggy, are you going to
Hey Geggy, are you going to Ground Zero on 9/11?
Just curious because I am on the Cape, if you were in the Boston area.
Would love to meet you if you were from Mass.
Ronnied
www.487ptown.com
What is the Commission's
What is the Commission's mandate?
http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/faq.htm#q1
The Commission's mandate is to provide a “full and complete accounting” of the attacks of September 11, 2001 and recommendations as to how to prevent such attacks in the future.
Specifically, Section 604 of Public Law 107-306 requires the Commission to investigate "facts and circumstances relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001," including those relating to intelligence agencies; law enforcement agencies; diplomacy; immigration, nonimmigrant visas, and border control; the flow of assets to terrorist organizations; commercial aviation; the role of congressional oversight and resource allocation; and other areas determined relevant by the Commission for its inquiry.
So... if the 9/11 Commission's mandate was to get a "full and complete accounting" of the attacks of September 11th, 2001, then why were certain things omitted? If certain things were omitted, does that not make the 9/11 Commission's findings null and void?
Here is an excerpt from a show called the "Washington Journal". On this particular show, Lee Hamilton, the co-chair for the 9/11 Commission was on the program discussing the "9/11 Public Discourse Project". This is a supposed "watchdog" group that makes sure the Government is doing everything they can to prevent the next terrorist attack, and to make sure the recommendations put forth by the Commission are implemented.
Click Here
As you can see, when Mr. Hamilton was confronted about Building 7, he stated that, "some things were left out of the report."
By his own admission, the 9/11 Commission did not give a "full and complete accounting" of the attacks on September 11th, 2001.
Therefore, the findings of the 9/11 Commission are NULL & VOID.
"Recent stories in the
"Recent stories in the Washington Post, the New York Times, as well as the release of the transcripts of the NORAD tapes in Vanity Fair, clearly show that the 9/11 Commission failed in its duties."
Which NYTimes article are they referring to? Kevin's?
Does the American press do a
Does the American press do a good job covering our government?
No 94%
BWAHAHAHAAAA...it just keeps getting better!
Voted! :)
"Yes 4%" I pity them.
"Yes 4%"
I pity them.
That's Terrence & Co.
That's Terrence & Co.
yeah, i gotta wonder kind of
yeah, i gotta wonder kind of person ends up on a PBS website and thinks the press is doing a good job of covering government.
rawstory.com
rawstory.com coverage:
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Group_of_widows_claim_911_Independent_0804...
Thank you ladies for your
Thank you ladies for your statement.
Here are Mindy Kleinberg's questions, set to music.
http://www.archive.org/download/mindy_k/911_widow_mindy_kleinberg-k142g.mp3
Pass it on.
OT For kicks I just posted a
OT
For kicks I just posted a "Recent Glut of MSM 9/11 Truth Coverage (Audio, Video)" thread at Left Gatekeeper site SmirkingChimp.com messageboard. It points to 911blogger pages and images throughout.
The message appeared exactly as it does HERE, which is an alternative, uncensored BBS. It was a straight copy/paste job of the BBS code.
As you can see from the AIPAC-Whipped-Chimp thread, it took all of 6 minutes for BoardNanny to screech,
2 of 2. BoardNanny | Member 1902, Joined Jul 02, 2001 | 2276 posts
Posted: 2006-08-04 17:54
We already have a thread talking about the Washington Post article and the recent release of evidence. That's all the glut we want here, thank you very much, please feel free to start your own website.
This topic is locked; no new posts may be added |
Notice he doesn't address how the post covers vastly more than just the WaPo and NORAD storys... but he deleted all the text so their whipped flock don't learn of this. I suspect the evidence of his left-gatekeeping will be deleted shortly, the book burned, in which case, the above URL will have no subject line, and will say, "post 0 of 1". What else is new out there in Left Gatekeeper Land? :) :)
This is very big. Please
This is very big. Please blast this message widely:
9/11 Widows question "the veracity of the ENTIRE CommissionÂ’s report"
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Group_of_widows_claim_911_Independent_...
Wow... Rawstory's article is
Wow... Rawstory's article is powerfully written.
Oh, I forgot to mention,
Oh, I forgot to mention, they also banned my brand new profile, after only ONE POST. I musta done something VEWY BAD.... :(
QUESTION BUSH -- WILL YOUR
QUESTION BUSH -- WILL YOUR CANDIDATE TAKE THE PLEDGE?
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/jerseygirlspoorcoverage.gif
"The message appeared
"The message appeared exactly as it does HERE, which is an alternative, uncensored BBS. It was a straight copy/paste job of the BBS code."
Aw jeez, I just realized you need a registered user name at the above site to view the post. HERE's an alternate location at a different BBS, also uncensored, which appears *exactly* as the quickly censored Smirking Chimp post appeared.
9/11 Symposium Most Popular
9/11 Symposium Most Popular C-Span Show
Prison Planet | August 5 2006
The June 2006 L.A. American Scholars Symposium is still the most popular online streaming choice for C-Span viewers, according to their companion Capital News website.
The 9/11 truth symposium, hosted by Alex Jones, featured numerous credible researchers and whistleblowers - as well as a speech by actor Charlie Sheen.
The program, carried under the banner of C-Span's 'American Perspectives' slot, caused waves across the Internet after debuting last weekend and repeating a further three times.
It is highly unlikely that Dick Cheney's speech which followed the symposium is responsible for any of the ratings!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/050806popular.htm
Robert Fisk predicts another
Robert Fisk predicts another 9/11
The Truth Will Set You Free | August 5 2006
“Well, you know, you can’t really see how angry people feel until you realize what they’re watching. They’re seeing footage on television here which you would never show in Australia."
You know, I came away from one bomb site with dead people in it – I came away and said to a friend, you know, there’s going to be another 9/11. There’s going to be another 9/11.”
And this time - like the last - there will be no way to prove for certain whether itÂ’s aggrieved Muslims who perpetrate it or Zionists trying to set them up. Perfect cover for a nuclear holocaust in the Middle East.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/050806fisk.htm
9/11 panel chairmen 'too
9/11 panel chairmen 'too soft' on Giuliani
SF Gate
The Sept. 11 commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by the Pentagon and FAA about their response to the 2001 terror attacks that it considered an investigation into possible deception, the panel's chairmen say in a new book.
http://www.rawstory.com/comments/17626.html
Too bad 9/11
Too bad 9/11 Commissioners... you fucked up big time.
Anyone remember the coverage
Anyone remember the coverage Ann Coulter recieved for slandering these poor women?
"continues to leave this
"continues to leave this Nation and its citizens vulnerable and at risk."
Gee ya think?
Funny how a lot of these family members seem to be the last ones on the planet to recognize the obvious.
Something fishy here...
Maybe they feel there's
Maybe they feel there's value in not being discounted as "Conspiracy Theorists" like the rest of us.
There has to be a reason why they won't come out with the accusation.
I respect them, and therefore I respect their reasoning, whatever it is.
I don't like it, but I respect it.
I just keep thinking of that
I just keep thinking of that clip of the woman (I forget her name) who lost a loved one in the attack; she was standing in front of a banner reading "inside job" and screaming in rage.
I'm astonished that more family members haven't reacted in the same way. Instead we get this luke-warm "we need better protection from the terrists" pap.
I understand they dont' wanna be labeled, by it's long past due to speak out -- we got war games of hijackings, thermate, able danger - what more do you friggin' need!? I signed confension?
Personally, I don't have a
Personally, I don't have a problem saying that a group of individuals willing to kill upwards of 250,000 innocent people in the Middle East, would have had no problem murdering 3000.
Especially when there's money, and power in it for them.
"I just keep thinking of
"I just keep thinking of that clip of the woman (I forget her name) who lost a loved one in the attack; she was standing in front of a banner reading "inside job" and screaming in rage.
I'm astonished that more family members haven't reacted in the same way. Instead we get this luke-warm "we need better protection from the terrists" pap.
I understand they dont' wanna be labeled, by it's long past due to speak out -- we got war games of hijackings, thermate, able danger - what more do you friggin' need!? I signed confension?"
Donna Marsh O'Connor is the family member you're describing. Billy Doyle. Ellen Mariani. Bob McIlvaine. Lorie Van Auken. The 400 family members Stanley Hilton was representing,to my knowledge, are the only family members to make the accusation.
Stanley Hilton was a flop. I don't remember why, but I know that turned into nothing.
However, Bill Doyle seems to think at least half believe in the accusation.
Chris, That line about
Chris, That line about Guiliani caught my eye, too. From the beginning of the Yahoo article:
"Republican Thomas Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton also say in "Without Precedent" that their panel was too soft in questioning former New York
Mayor Rudolph Giuliani — and that the 20-month investigation may have suffered for it."
Isn't that odd to single out Guiliani in an article that is ostensibly about how the Pentagon and NORAD lied to the commission? I mean, in the OV Guiliani is a hero. I find that article's opening line to be quite dramatic, given how Guiliani was deified by the corporate media in the days following 9/11.
Remember... this is the Bush
Remember... this is the Bush Crime Family. These people are NO different than the mafia that used to be powerful in this country. They are NO different. I think that was the point John Albanese was trying to make with the Jack Abramoff/Sopranos music in his movie.
These people had a hand in Hitler. They probably had a hand in the JFK assassination. I don't know if they had a hand in RFK, MLK, etc... but it would make sense. These people have been in the upper echelons of power for over half a century.
They were involved with the Iran Contra affair. The Savings & Loans scandal. The Afghanistan/Russia War. The first Gulf War. The Afghanistan War. The Iraq War.
And don't get me started on the other crime families in Government.
I have no problem making the accusation that the Bush Crime Family was responsible for the 9/11 atrocities.
Mark my words: Guiliani will
Mark my words: Guiliani will NOT be on the ticket for the next presidential race.
Too much publicity for 911 truth.
By the time the election rolls around -- assuming there will even BE an election -- everyone and his cat will be down with 911 truth.
Guliani will be a huge liability.
That scum-sucking fascist rat should be ashamed to show his face in public.
Good stuff Frank V Here are
Good stuff Frank V
Here are Mindy Kleinberg's questions, set to music.
http://www.archive.org/download/...nberg- k142g.mp3
Pass it on.
FrankV | 08.04.06 - 6:50 pm | #
Nice Frank... sorry I missed
Nice Frank... sorry I missed it.
If ONLY this 9/11
If ONLY this 9/11 family/jersey girls film could be seen in just half the theatres as that scare tactic leftist Inconvenient Truth movie was:
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
No, the real "inconvenient truth" is that we were lied to about 9/11 on all fronts(except the part where 3000 people died...of whose death til is still rising)
EVERYONE involved in the
EVERYONE involved in the 9/11 Commission should be arrested IMMEDIATELY. INCLUDING staffers.
You want them to talk? Go
You want them to talk? Go arrest them.
@ Jon I uploaded that to
@ Jon
I uploaded that to Soundclick a year ago .
Scroll down the Soundclick page.
[ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=355179 ]
Sometimes non-music files at
Sometimes non-music files at Soundclik, when played in lo-fi or hi-fi have a chipmunk speed.
mp3 plays at a regular speed.
direct link to the audio [
direct link to the audio [ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=355179&songID=2511264 ]
Cool.
Cool.
Stanley Hilton was a flop. I
Stanley Hilton was a flop. I don't remember why, but I know that turned into nothing.
However, Bill Doyle seems to think at least half believe in the accusation.
Jon Gold
And Kevin Barrett believes it too, as he mentioned it at the end of one of his recent interviews...
Yea. I didn't post that to
Yea. I didn't post that to cut your grass or anything lol I just posted it because I rarely see anyone else who knows of that appearance by Hamilton, or who has listened to it.
If you'd like a screenshot of Hamilton on C-Span that day during the call -- to use for in your forum thread about that or something -- here's one [ http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4176/leehamiltononcspanbg5.jpg ] It's not high quality but neither was the actual C-Span stream I.
I hate Hamilton!
The stream is on my site as
The stream is on my site as well.
A lot of things are on my
A lot of things are on my site. You guys should rummage through it some time.
If ONLY this 9/11
If ONLY this 9/11 family/jersey girls film could be seen in just half the theatres as that scare tactic leftist Inconvenient Truth movie was:
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
pockybot | 08.04.06 - 9:11 pm | #
scare tactic leftist? ok, so global warming is fake, right Inhofe? another thread, another smack on "liberals" as pocky percieves them.
Mark my words: Guiliani will
Mark my words: Guiliani will NOT be on the ticket for the next presidential race.
Too much publicity for 911 truth.
By the time the election rolls around -- assuming there will even BE an election -- everyone and his cat will be down with 911 truth.
Guliani will be a huge liability.
That scum-sucking fascist rat should be ashamed to show his face in public.
still here | 08.04.06 - 8:54 pm | #
god i hope your right. i simply could not stomach a Giuliani presidency.i know Cheney is more intimately involved in 9/11, but even he doesnt make me as sick as that scumbag Rudy.
I just keep thinking of that
I just keep thinking of that clip of the woman (I forget her name) who lost a loved one in the attack; she was standing in front of a banner reading "inside job" and screaming in rage.
I'm astonished that more family members haven't reacted in the same way. Instead we get this luke-warm "we need better protection from the terrists" pap.
I understand they dont' wanna be labeled, by it's long past due to speak out -- we got war games of hijackings, thermate, able danger - what more do you friggin' need!? I signed confension?
ben | 08.04.06 - 8:29 pm | #
EXACTLY!!!! this is why The Jersey Girls get the plush tv spots on Hardball and shit. because they play it "safe". thats why im afraid this upcoming movie from them is gonna be more "safe", LIHOP, "implement the Commissions recommendations" bullshit.
Personally, I don't have a
Personally, I don't have a problem saying that a group of individuals willing to kill upwards of 250,000 innocent people in the Middle East, would have had no problem murdering 3000.
Especially when there's money, and power in it for them.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.04.06 - 8:32 pm | #
again, EXACTLY!!!! i dont understand why more people dont get that. lets not forget that the same group also is on its way to killing 3000 american soldiers based on that day.i dont understand why so many americans cant see how little 3000 civilian lives means to these people.
"EXACTLY!!!! this is why The
"EXACTLY!!!! this is why The Jersey Girls get the plush tv spots on Hardball and shit. because they play it "safe". thats why im afraid this upcoming movie from them is gonna be more "safe", LIHOP, "implement the Commissions recommendations" bullshit."
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about regarding this movie.
Wait, and watch.
youve said yourself you wish
youve said yourself you wish they would have done more with their respective TV slots. what did Brietwieser say on Hardball? that 9/11 was an inside job? not even close. she complained how the government wasnt following the Commissions findings. weak.