David Ray Griffin on Guns and Butter - TODAY - 1PM Pacific

Today on Bonnie Faulkner's "Guns and Butter" radio program, Faulkner interviews David Ray Griffin. "Griffin deconstructs the NORAD testimony from the 911 Commission Report with regard to all four flights and shows that the testimony is false." On Berkeley's KPFA, 94.1 FM. Streaming at kpfa.org

The top graphic refers to an upcoming promotional event for Griffin and Scott's (Editors) new book, "9/11 & American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out".

Sunday , September 24, 7:00 PM
Martin Luther King Middle School
1781 Rose Street, Berkeley, CA

I implore all of you good

I implore all of you good people to reason with anyone who is influencing you to let the truth out in any “trickle-down” manner. We need the truth out pronto—there is far too much at stake here. It is not worth the tremendous risk in continuing this “dribs & drabs” release of information.

As you know, a cabal of homicidal maniacs has stolen 2 elections and hijacked our Constitution & Bill of Rights. They are utilizing insane ideas taken from HitlerÂ’s Reich, OrwellÂ’s 1984, and Operation Northwoods to suppress all dissent in a diabolical plot to take over the world.

As Hitler clearly demonstrated, the masses of people are basically lemmings who will eagerly follow a lying madman who has stolen power & is in control. Merely 65 years ago (weÂ’re not talking Ancient Greece), Hitler turned Germany, one of the most advance countries in the world, into a state of raving, murderous, lunatics! The same thing can happen here in the U.S. today if we let it! How can we presume that the masses in the U.S. today are smarter than average Germans 65 years ago?

Whether you like it or not, whether you know it or not, websites like this are now the printing presses & shortwave radios like those of the French & Germany Resistance! We canÂ’t afford to continue letting out 9/11 truth in subtle hints or riddles for the general public to somehow guess or figure out. TheyÂ’re probably never going to get it that way, nor even bother trying.

Furthermore, disinfo agents are all over the place. For example, OÂ’Reilly had a super-slick, pathological liar from Popular Mechanics on last night who probably convinced 98% of the audience that truthers are nuts! Prof. Fetzer did poorly on CNBC tonight, & the host smugly implied that heÂ’s a kook. I doubt weÂ’re making progress at all any more.

I really believe that we must hit the perpetrators with any & all the truth now! IÂ’m a nobody who has known the truth for less than a year. As far as I know, even I discovered an irrefutable defect in the official story: Since AA77 was obliterated, they could not have IDÂ’ed 98% of the passengers. They clearly lied! If I could deduce this, there must be a ton of other covert truth out there to hit them with! LetÂ’s use it now before itÂ’s too late!

>Al Qaeda is actually a part

>Al Qaeda is actually a part of or >some kind of creation of the C.I.A.?
>truthsearching2006 | 08.09.06 - 9:52 >am | #

Of course. The whole "international terrorists", the whole idea of terrorists traveling around the globe to stage masterful attacks there is a ie. The 'hijackers' were double agents: They were hired by the CIA to infiltrate other Arab groups, to spy on them - that's why they were trained at US military bases, an that's why their driver's license had a US military base address (details that are taboo in the mainstream media).
Check on Webster Tarpley's writings on this for expert info.

Anonymous, to be the Devil's

Anonymous, to be the Devil's Advocate, how would you respond to someone stating that your views are putting the country at risk? That you are mocking the "War On Terror"? That you have not taken seriously the history about Osama, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Iran that is included in pages and pages of THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT? That you are not FOR the U.S. being protected from terrorism?

I need someone to confirm whether this is bogus or true....that Al Qaeda is actually a shady, distorted arm of the C.I.A.....that the C.I.A. is actually using foreign terrorists as patsies for the agenda of the NeoCons...

http://www.oilempire.us/qaeda.html

Is the info on the page above reasonable?

We Have Been Reduced To A

Greg, Thank you. I've

Greg,

Thank you.

I've ordered Webster Tarpley's SYNTHETIC TERROR book from Amazon.com. Waiting for its arrival.

For my own edification, I want to get a handle on this part of the story.

I'm listening to the unabridged audio version of THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT. The CR goes on and on and on and on about international terrorists. Anyone on the street would probably hear this and say, "Yes, that's right. These international terrorists are out to get us. Why else would the Commission put so much information out in the report on this part of the official story?"

Fetzer's peformances: Almost

Fetzer's peformances:
Almost always throws in :
Cell phones
No passengers
Minetta's testimony described stand-down orders
Once included Barbara Olsen alive
Pentagon - what hit it
Vague statements that are not alway convincing

ALL OF THE ABOVE REFUTABLE AND DISTRACTING AND NOT CONVINCING

Fetzer rarely discusses:
WTC 7
NORAD Standdown
Coverup
Clearly proven lies on OCT.

I think Fetzer may be hurting more than helping in his appearances. I want to believe in Fetzer. But I don't know if I do anymore.

He has to improve his style. I know he's gotten feedback on these issues. Frankly, I think he is one of the weak links in those vocal in the media.

Some new facts for you evil

Terrence, get a life. Your

Terrence, get a life. Your tone alone is an indicator that you are not to be believed - much less debated.

Terrance, that is lame,

Terrance, that is lame, buddy. Hardly any science in there.

truthsearching2006 |

truthsearching2006 | 08.09.06 - 10:21 am | #

That's an interesting link you posted.

However, I think Atta & Co. were here in the U.S. thinking they were drug traffickers in training. Since our own gov't perpetrated 9/11, they of course needed someone to blame it on. Osama & his 19 lackeys are who they decided to use as their patsies. Islamic "Jihadists" had a mystique that probably made the Bushies think they would be the perfect Boogeymen.

I do not believe that those in our gov't who perpetrated 9/11, even as stupid & corrupt as they are, would turn over an operation like 9/11 to a caveman & 19 flunkies. They were just fall guys.

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11931

"each and every one of those facts are indisputable"

I have read somewhere that the newspaper which reported the "$100,000 wire transfer from the Pakistani ISI to Mohammad Atta" later partially retracted the story...

I'm coming to the conclusion that ultimately anything else than controlled demolition can be explained away, although often in contorted ways and implausibly. I'd still say that Mineta's testimony, the put options, and the secret service not doing their job in whisking the president to safety are strong evidence. The collapse of the three buildings can be subjected to hard scientific analysis, and in principle at least the question can be resolved in scientific debate.

Also, Islamic countries are

Also, Islamic countries are where the oil is^. 9/11 enabled the Bushies to invade Afghanistan, Iraq, and if things had gone better for them, we'd be in Iran already.

I KNOW it was on the list of

I KNOW it was on the list of questions presented by the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, and was NEVER answered, and Lorie Van Auken was furious about that.

Notice how we invaded

Notice how we invaded Afghaninstan 1st, the weakest country. Then Iraq 2nd & a stronger country. Iran was/is next, the strongest of the 3, and geographically between the other two. We were supposed to be controlling the countries on both side of Iran before we invaded. Iraq gave our 150,000 troops or whatever, far more trouble than the NeoCons thought they would, that's why no invasion of Iran yet, IMO.

I want Fetzer off the

I want Fetzer off the airwaves until he can agree to clean up his act. He does not listen to his audience when audience suggests impovments in his delivery. He told me it was IMPOSSIBLE to delegate another spokesperson to do the interview for his orgnizations - he said "that's not how they work, that's not their MO" in talk radio, "you don't know what you're talking about," "who do you think you are?"

"I have read somewhere that

"I have read somewhere that the newspaper which reported the "$100,000 wire transfer from the Pakistani ISI to Mohammad Atta" later partially retracted the story..."

Nope. The Wall Street Journal's online edition reported it in the U.S., and several Indian and Pakistani papers reported it as well. In fact, I believe it was confirmed by the FBI.

And Michael Meacher

And Michael Meacher confirmed it as well.

Jon, could you give a link

Jon, could you give a link to the WSJ's online article?

"Jon, could you give a link

"Jon, could you give a link to the WSJ's online article?"

It's no longer available.

Not sure if this was posted

Not sure if this was posted yet. Article from the Malaysian Times discussing DRG's new book. I have read the first few chapters and it is excellent!!!

http://story.malaysiasun.com/p.x/ct/9/cid/b8de8e630faf3631/id/7cca827f00...

DRG needs to be on the airwaves as opposed to Fetzer. I am a firm believer of the 9/11 Truth movement, but Fetzer, although knowledgeable about 9/11 seems to be a bit of a loon when he is put in front of a mike.

According to the Washington

According to the Washington Times, "On May 15, 2003, a group of 9/11 victims' relatives met with the commission co-chairman Thomas Kean and other senior staff and submitted a list of questions, which included a mention of Lt. Gen. Mahmoud Ahmed. A June 17, 2004, the New York Times reported that Lorie Van Auken, whose husband died in the World Trade Center, was "irate" that the June 16 commission narrative of the 9/11 attacks did not even mention the allegation about Ahmed's role in the $100,000 transfer to Mohammed Atta. Clearly, the ISI link is no mere conspiracy theory."

Man you know 9/11 truth is

Man you know 9/11 truth is mainstream when Jay Leno goes on for almost 2 minutes about the Scripss Howard poll with John Mccain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BdJ3wfeI7AA
pockybot | 08.09.06 - 6:44 am | #
Jay Leno is a piece of shit. this is the second night in a row that he addressed the 9/11 poll in a negative way. it obviously freaks him out that a third of amercians doesnt buy the official story. remember, Jay Leno is a republican, he stumped for Bush and Arnold.Bill MAher was right on last night, he was doing a great job, but then Jay came with the 9/11 question and Maher once again fails to wrap his head around it. pretty dissapointing.

Editorial: We've had enough

Editorial: We've had enough of 9/11 conspiracy theorists

http://www.sheboygan-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SHE06...

Alex Jones has said more

Alex Jones has said more than once that the biggest star in Hollywood doesn't buy the OCT.......who do you think he might mean?
sandy | 08.09.06 - 9:23 am | #
Deniro? Pacino?

Clooney? Pitt? Not Cruise i

Clooney? Pitt?

Not Cruise i suspect.

Here is a link from the WSJ

Here is a link from the WSJ that mentions the Mohammad Atta wire of $100,000. It is under "Our Friends the Pakistanis":

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=95001298

Hope this helps.

Top sources confirmed here

Top sources confirmed here on Tuesday, that the general lost his job because of the "evidence" India produced to show his links to one of the suicide bombers that wrecked the World Trade Centre. The US authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mahumd.

Grabbing a fistfull of

Grabbing a fistfull of Deception Dollars and off to the movies soon.

"Henry C. 'Hank' Johnson

"Henry C. 'Hank' Johnson declared victory about 11:05 p.m. in his campaign against U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney," reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Johnson finished with 58.82% of the vote, while McKinney ended up with 41.18%.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Johnson_declares_victory_over__US_0808...

the one friend that this movement has is now gone from the government. cant say im surprised. god bless Cynthia McKinney.

Jay Leno is worried more

Jay Leno is worried more about his wallet than what is good for the American people. He makes millions of dollars thanks to the Bush tax cuts. He is not going to upset that apple cart. Remember, Leno is a skilled entertainer. That doesn't mean he is intelligent or moral. Half the shit he says is written by other people.

As for Bill Maher. I love the guy and can't wait for Real Time to come back on the air. But, as an earlier poster said, Maher is a bit skittish about addressing anything related to 9/11 thanks to him getting the boot from the "Politically Incorrect" program. I guarantee Maher KNOWS that the govt. is behind 9/11. But, Maher is a pussy and would never admit to it. His "Real Time" show and his stand-up act keeps him in "the weed and hookers". I can see his point to some extent.

more time for Cynthia to

more time for Cynthia to devote to the cause of 9-11 Truth? ;)

Raw calls Lamont victor in

Raw calls Lamont victor in Connecticut primary

John Byrne
Published: Tuesday August 8, 2006

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With Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) trailing by 4 percent with more than 80 percent of the votes counted in Tuesday's Democratic primary in Connecticut, RAW STORY has declared anti-war challenger Ned Lamont victor.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Raw_calls_Lamont_victor_in_Connecticut...

and the spin starts, the rightwing tools are already all over TV saying, "this just shows that the democrats are being taken over by radical,left wing liberal idealogy." hopefully.

more time for Cynthia to

more time for Cynthia to devote to the cause of 9-11 Truth?
MD | 08.09.06 - 11:25 am | #
i doubt it, because she will try to run again, and she can do more good inside the beast than outside of it. but it would be nice if she got louder about it, but dont get mad if she doesnt, because like i said, she could be back some day.

It will be interesting to

It will be interesting to see what Cythia McKinney does now since she has lost all hope to being re-elected to Congress. Will she be a leader in the 9/11 Truth movement? Or was all her 9/11 Inside Job talk just rhetoric?

I believe Cynthia is a true patriot, but now more than ever, she needs to put her money where her mouth is and help lead.

I just saw that the movie

I just saw that the movie "World Trade Center" is opening up in a theater a half block from me here in the Windy City. The first movie starts in 2 1/2 hours and I am sure that it will be crowded. Anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to promote 9/11 Truth? I am thinking simple 8 1/2 X 11" talking points taped up to all stores from and to the theater that I can indiscriminately post as people walk to the theater. What is the best one pager that I can print in mass and get the word out?

I cannot grasp why you

I cannot grasp why you people, and your spokemen do not stick to the undeniable facts.
When will you ever learn...
I will just state one here, the NORAD standdown. I'm from the Netherlands and out of
curiousity I gathered as much information as I could how are own airdefence works.
Being a tiny country, we have only 2 F16's on a full alert 24/7 operational basis available for interceptions
of unknown planes or planes which have their communications shut of.
Yet, since 2004, they made more than 40 succesfull interceptions, that is ALL OF THEM.
In the few cases they were not able to make radio contact, they always made VISIBLE CONTACT
with the crew of the intercepted plane in question.
These are STANDARD procedures, no lengthy top to bottom decision structure,
these fighters are airborne within minutes and have standing special permission to break the soundbarrier
over populated areas. The almighty military US machinery failing on 911? Impossible!
Chew on that for a moment and stick to the facts folks!

it could only be wishful

it could only be wishful thinking on my part yes, but here is someone who now has the experience in Washington, but is no longer hamstringed by the politics of Washington. i think she would be more effective outside the beast actually.

V, here are some

V, here are some flyers.
http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/wtc/

Tony S, a lot of people buy that bullshit Popular Mechanics article that planes aren't intercepted all that quickly or frequently in the U.S.

i think she would be more

i think she would be more effective outside the beast actually.
MD | 08.09.06 - 11:32 am | #
i gotta disagree. she could be louder about 9/11 from the outside, but the media wouldnt cover her. inside the system, they are forced to cover her to some degree. plus, if she wasnt in the government, would we have gotten her to chair those 9/11 hearings that she chaired? nope.

I cannot grasp why you

I cannot grasp why you people, and your spokemen do not stick to the undeniable facts.
When will you ever learn...
I will just state one here, the NORAD standdown. I'm from the Netherlands and out of
curiousity I gathered as much information as I could how are own airdefence works.
Being a tiny country, we have only 2 F16's on a full alert 24/7 operational basis available for interceptions
of unknown planes or planes which have their communications shut of.
Yet, since 2004, they made more than 40 succesfull interceptions, that is ALL OF THEM.
In the few cases they were not able to make radio contact, they always made VISIBLE CONTACT
with the crew of the intercepted plane in question.
These are STANDARD procedures, no lengthy top to bottom decision structure,
these fighters are airborne within minutes and have standing special permission to break the soundbarrier
over populated areas. The almighty military US machinery failing on 911? Impossible!
Chew on that for a moment and stick to the facts folks!
Tony S | 08.09.06 - 11:32 am | #

i love the dutch!!!! im heading over there with a stack of 100 copies of LC2 in a few months and will be leaving them everywhere i go....

would anyone else have

would anyone else have questioned Myers and Rumsfeld about the wargames? no way, only a Cynthia McKinney could do that. we need her back in the belly of the beast. shes all we got.

Presbyterian Church

Presbyterian Church publishes 9/11 conspiracy theory

Malaysia Sun | August 9 2006

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/090806Presbyterian.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/a

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/090806perspective.htm

9/11 Hit Pieces Get Just Plain Stupid: Part 1
Writing "nonsense," and giving the word its own paragraph is not a satisfactory rebuttal

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 9 2006

Recent advances in the public profile of the 9/11 truth movement, owed in part to C-Span's airing of the American Scholars Symposium and Oliver Stone's World Trade Center movie, have provoked a slurry of new hit pieces against 9/11 truth activists. Most are characterized by their twilight zone illogicality and inability to get basic facts correct.

Wisconsin Sheboygan Press

This has to be my favorite 9/11 hit piece of all time, even topping Betsy Hart's 'argument' that 9/11 skeptics are wrong because they fear Muslims. It is the most inept and manifestly ridiculous attempt at arguing for the official line that I have ever encountered.

Amazingly it's written by the entire editorial staff - their best and brightest - which must mean that the rest of their journalists are a mixture of kindergarten kids and Rhesus monkeys.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/090806plainstupid.htm

Sunday , September 24, 7:00

Sunday , September 24, 7:00 PM
Martin Luther King Middle School
1781 Rose Street, Berkeley, CA

i cant wait... anyone else going to be there???

Anonymous, to be the Devil's

Anonymous, to be the Devil's Advocate, how would you respond to someone stating that your views are putting the country at risk? That you are mocking the "War On Terror"? That you have not taken seriously the history about Osama, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Iran that is included in pages and pages of THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT? That you are not FOR the U.S. being protected from terrorism?

Also, I would say overwhelming evidence points to 9/11 as being an inside job & Bush's policies are what's putting our country & the world at great risk! If a caveman & 19 flunkies attacked us, why are we blowing-up Iraq & making all sorts of new enemies everywhere?

V, like i said above, if she

V, like i said above, if she still wants to run for congress in the future, which im guessing she does, she is gonna have to stay pretty quiet about 9/11. and you CANNOT blame her for that. you WANT, no, you NEED this woman back in the government, so you cant blame her for playing it safe and trying to change things from the inside. think about it, now that shes gone, we have NOBODY to fight for our cause and other noble causes that she fought for. we need her back in congress.cut her some slack, she deserves it.

The NORAD tapes as revealed

The NORAD tapes as revealed by Vanity Fair don't answer the question of why the military wasn't alerted to the hijackings until almost the last minute.

Jon, why not ask the writer of this why the Mahmud--Atta connection has not led to anything? Or why only Democrat leaders critical of the Patriot Act got Anthrax letters (which were traced to a U.S. lab)?

http://www.sheboygan-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SHE06...

I think the Anthrax attacks are important in connection with 9/11. And the investigations didn't lead anywhere there, did they?

V: Print out SBG's flyer on

V: Print out SBG's flyer on the right of this page. I have some Deception Dollars and Remarkable Facts cards handy for this. With my sched. today, I cannot make this an all day affair. I will pay to see the movie and try to hit the line coming in for the next showing. In a mall, you are likely to be asked to stop or leave. For Fahrenheit 911, when I was just a newbie, I got away with it for a couple hours one day, and the next day, they asked me to stop or leave. As a paying customer, I think you can get away with a little more if you are sly about it. Leave a DD at the snack bar and here and there on the benches, etc. There is a website on one of the threads below which also has a flyer and is calling for civil disobedience and possible arrest.

Ahmed--Atta connection

Ahmed--Atta connection

im loving this Lieberman

im loving this Lieberman stuff. hahahahahahaha, that son of a bitch.

It will be interesting to

It will be interesting to see what Cythia McKinney does now since she has lost all hope to being re-elected to Congress. Will she be a leader in the 9/11 Truth movement? Or was all her 9/11 Inside Job talk just rhetoric?

I believe Cynthia is a true patriot, but now more than ever, she needs to put her money where her mouth is and help lead.
V | 08.09.06 - 11:27 am | #

Definitely! If Cynthia is out of the Congress, we need her in the truth movement big-time! It's the best thing for our country & for her at this point!

im loving this Lieberman

im loving this Lieberman stuff. hahahahahahaha, that son of a bitch.
Chris | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 11:46 am | #

hell yeah!!! no one is going to back him either!!! HAHAHHA!!!!!

Must have been a glitch in

Must have been a glitch in the Deibold built in glitch.

I think the Anthrax attacks

I think the Anthrax attacks are important in connection with 9/11. And the investigations didn't lead anywhere there, did they?
Vesa | 08.09.06 - 11:45 am | #

Well, yes. They lead to the point where it was determined that it was a strain of U.S. military Anthrax, and then the investigation abruptly ended, no further explanations given, that I've heard of.

(SBG's flyer left of this

(SBG's flyer left of this page)

Chris, Cythia's claim to

Chris,

Cythia's claim to fame at this point will be that she was once a member of the House. Period. End of comment. BUT, she can really make a name for herself if she puts the T & A out there and fully commit to the 9/11 Truth movement. I respect McKinney a lot. But she "has to get the groove on" and help educate people on what really happened on 9/11.

Not to mention that about 25

Not to mention that about 25 biochemists met all sorts of accidental/untimely deaths shortly after the Anthrax investigation was stopped^.

Definitely! If Cynthia is

Definitely! If Cynthia is out of the Congress, we need her in the truth movement big-time! It's the best thing for our country & for her at this point!
Anonymous | 08.09.06 - 11:48 am | #
see my comments above. that is NOT the best thing for us as a movement. we NEED her on the inside, as she is the only politician to actually work on behalf of us, and other movements like ours.she is the only politician that works on behalf of THE PEOPLE and not business and special interests. this is a horrible day, and we need to support McKinneys efforts to get back to congress. that means she will probably be relatively silent about 9/11. please try and see the bigger picture here.

"The NORAD tapes as revealed

"The NORAD tapes as revealed by Vanity Fair don't answer the question of why the military wasn't alerted to the hijackings until almost the last minute."

The NORAD tapes verify that the Wargames caused "widespread confusion".

Anthrax "attack" Was an

Anthrax "attack"

Was an attack to make certain that the Patriot Act would fly thru Congress with flying colors. Democrats are pussies... Republicans are murderers... while they keep supporting the Iraq War and keep supporting Israel's devastation of Lebanese civilians and infrastructure.

V, i dont think you

V, i dont think you understand politics very well if you dont see my point about her being more effective on the inside. she can be louder than ALex Jones in regards to 9/11 and she wont make much of a real difference. on the inside, she has ALREADY made a differance, and can make more of a difference if given another chance. shes the only politician who is FOR THE PEOPLE, and now shes gone. if she starts spouting off about 9/11, she will NEVER be in COngress again. that would be horrible. its just not worth it.

very sad that Cynthia lost

very sad that Cynthia lost (apparently; Diebold is involved); along with hugo and a tiny number of others, she's the only politician I respect. Her grilling of Rummy on the war games and that monstrosity known as was one of the most priceless moments in TV history.

Here's the transcript:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031505_mckinney_transcript.shtml

And here's one of many delictable quotes:

"Finally Mr. Secretary, after the last Hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four wargames on September 11th. I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today. And then I do expect the written response to my previous question - hopefully by the end of the week."

Mainstream Demorats pounced on her at the first opportunity.

Yes, Chris. I meant if

Yes, Chris. I meant if Cynthia is put out of Congress without any recourse to get back in quickly.

thats right Danse, and thats

thats right Danse, and thats why we need her back in congress. talking loudly about 9/11 now will make sure that she NEVER gets back there. anyone see my point? see the big picture?

Some american has to record

Some american has to record and transcript this one !!!

Man you know 9/11 truth is

Man you know 9/11 truth is mainstream when Jay Leno goes on for almost 2 minutes about the Scripss Howard poll with John Mccain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJ3wfeI7AA

Guns + Butter kicks Ass!

Guns + Butter kicks Ass!

I hope DRG will write an

I hope DRG will write an essay about this issue too, updating his great "the incredible tales of the commission: flight 11,175,93,77"

Where, please, is the

Where, please, is the recording??

Have you ever asked someone

Have you ever asked someone who believes the official version of 9/11 if they could be wrong? And if they were wrong what they would do? We have to learn to put the ball in their court. Put them back on their heels.

When they ask you "what

When they ask you "what happened to the people on the plane" tell them you don't know, but that you'd like to ask Bush and Cheney that question when they are under oath. And then ask them wouldn't you?

John McCain is the

John McCain is the beginning. Let all the other republicans get on record for denying 9/11 truth. Maybe some of them will eventually distance themselves from the neocons. But as long as 9/11 is the absolute taboo in Washington D.C., they can always run, run, run...

I am so glad people are

I am so glad people are discussing 9/11 truth issues far and wide. And, I am very thankful for David Ray Griffin and all the wonderful guys doing the studies and research.

I've been listening to the unabridged audio version of THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT. For the average Joe, it is SO EASY to believe the surface content about Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda and that everything that has transpired since 9/11 is justified (in the Administration's eyes). THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT goes on and on for pages and pages about the history of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda and even goes into the topics of Hezbollah and Iran!!

That being said, too many critical questions remain unanswered. And the Bush/Cheney Administration's non-disclosure incriminate them and the NeoCons. And, last but not least, WHY IS OSAMA BIN LADEN, IF HE IS SUCH A MYTHIC THREAT TO THE WORLD, IS HE NOT CAPTURED?

McCain + Leno = Suppressed

McCain + Leno =
Suppressed Urge to Projectile Vomit

John McCain is a freak. All

John McCain is a freak. All he is concerned about is putting his butt in the White House.

I have to go wipe my asss,

I have to go wipe my asss, so this will be short...

I just shitt myself...

DylnLCII was mentioned and interviewed on National Propaganda RAdio

They are spinning now, but they did have a valid interview...

regardless, I still crapped myself, even though their token spinner compared 911 to watergate

Yep... Okay, MUST GO WIPE!

Dylan, Anybody rip an MP3 of

Dylan,

Anybody rip an MP3 of the interview?

Some american has to record

Some american has to record and transcript this one !!!
911act | 08.09.06 - 6:34 am | #

Don't worry, it'll be archived at kpfa and Guns and Butter.net

http://gunsandbutter.net

Bill Maher did his usual

Bill Maher did his usual "Aw, c'mon" last night when Leno asked him about the 30% of Americans" who question 9/11 Truth.

Bill, it's not funny anymore, it never was.

I used to enjoy Bill Maher.

I used to enjoy Bill Maher. No longer. He refuses to consider the reality of what really happened on 9/11. He's also for all the push for Israel to go out of control over their two kidnapped soldiers. It's too bad Maher's ego has eaten him alive.

We fucking kicked ass in

We fucking kicked ass in Connecticut yesterday, so while the interest is hot, I left this Diary on "My Left Nutmeg", the top lefty site that all the bloggers that have caused so much trouble for Lieberman's campaign hang out at:

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2671

Check it out, folks, and please leave some supportive comments, THOUSANDS will read them!

Thanks reprehensor, a

Thanks reprehensor, a transcript would still be needed :D
Does anyone have the video of that flight of fancy presentation by David Ray Griffin?
And.... what about that global outlook magazine, are there useful informations? does someone have it ?

Somewhat off topic: If you

Somewhat off topic:

If you have some free time, go over to DIGG and vote up 9/11 stories. If you don't know about DIGG here is a clip off the "IT Wire:"

The most stunning example of the popular news aggregation sites is Digg.com. Incredibly, according to web ranking site, Alexa.com, Digg.com has risen in popularity to rank number 115 in traffic among the worldÂ’s millions of websites. To put that ranking in perspective, the website for The Washington Post ranks number 182, Reuters ranks 227, USA Today ranks 300, Fox News ranks 319, and The Los Angeles Times ranks 559.

True, The New York Times (70), CNN (27), ABC (24) and the BBC (23) still attract more traffic than Digg.com. However, the fact is that a simple automated news aggregator with just 15 staff and no editorial team whatsoever, gets more traffic than or plays in the same league with many of the worldÂ’s largest and most respected news organisations.

If we can get 9/11 stories voted to the top of the heap they could get a lot of exposure.

Alex Jones has said more

Alex Jones has said more than once that the biggest star in Hollywood doesn't buy the OCT.......who do you think he might mean?

Does anybody have some

Does anybody have some material to debunk PM's claim that Payne Stewart's intercept was the only civilian intercept in a decade? I know we always hear that 67 number about the 9 months before 9/11...was that all commercial flights? If so, I think that plays into our argument a lot better, anyway.

Did anyone get a recording

Did anyone get a recording of the NPR report on 9/11 Truth this morning? If so, please post it. I heard just the tail end of it today at about 8:30.

Is this

Is this true?

http://www.oilempire.us/qaeda.html

Al Qaeda is actually a part of or some kind of creation of the C.I.A.?

Look at this neoconartist

Look at this neoconartist thread:

http://www.gopusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31372

They start off groveling in a nonsense hitpiece of no substance, then jhust 4 short pages later, one of their own is admitting that PM don't have all the answers. Hahaha!

Well, I thought it was funny.

Alex Jones is on WRKO 680 AM

Alex Jones is on WRKO 680 AM in Boston live right now...he is kicking ass. Awesome.

Listen live to Alex Jones

Listen live to Alex Jones here:

http://www.wrko.com/

MUST WATCH THIS

MUST WATCH THIS INTERVIEW:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7AAgfZfqmc

George Galloway rips Sky News to shreds
Enjoy!

Ok, Alex Jones interview is

Ok, Alex Jones interview is over now. I'll see if I can get a copy.

WRKO is a Conservative radio station in Boston. Alex held his own, but the interviewer (John DePetro) wouldn't let Alex answer the questions - he kept talking over Alex, if you can believe that.

At the end of the interview, John DePetro called Alex "the PT Barnum of our times." Jackass...

Contact Depetro here, if you want to set him straight: depetro@wrko.com

As for Maher, he's a

As for Maher, he's a complete hack and should be ashamed of himself.

*oops, that monstrosity

*oops, that monstrosity known as Dyncorp, I meant to say.

Yes again, V! The Anthrax

Yes again, V! The Anthrax letters were mailed to Bush enemies & some Democrats who were holding out against the "Patriot Act." A rather obsure editor who had published some very unflattering pictures of the Bush twins drunk was the first to die a horrible death from an Anthrax letter.

I feel that in honor of

I feel that in honor of Cynthia, her grilling of Rummy should be (re?) posted on 911blogger and linked at democraticunderground.com

The anthrax is another facet

The anthrax is another facet (along with the wargames - the smoking gun!) of 911 that the scholars fail to capitalize on.

Unfortunately I've been

Unfortunately I've been banned from DU so I can't post it myself. There's currently a hate-fest of Cynthia going on there: the usual tripe about "hurting the image" of the democratic party.

yes, i dont undersatand why

yes, i dont undersatand why there is hardly any research into the ANthrax incident. that should go hand in hand with all 9/11 research.

"we NEED her [Cynthia] on

"we NEED her [Cynthia] on the inside, as she is the only politician to actually work on behalf of us, and other movements like ours."

We have seen that a single person inside just cannot really do much.

And now we want her to tone down just in case she gets re-elected one day?

I don't think so. She will be much more powerful outside -- if she commits herself fully to the issue.

you dont understand the

you dont understand the system Vesa. she will be roundly ignored on the outside(except by us), she will be able to make a change from the inside.(no McKinney, no questioning of Rummy on the wargames, no 9/11 hearings etc.) we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

and lets not forget that she

and lets not forget that she has done more on the inside than just 9/11, she has done a lot of good work. we need her back in congress where she cant be ignored and can fight the system. she isnt gonna fight it from the outside, she will be just another voice for truth. thats always a good thing, but she was the ONLY politician worth a damn, and now shes gone. we need her back in congress.

The scholars need to raise

The scholars need to raise the bar as regards the articles published on the Journal of 9/11 Studies.

In particular, the article
"The Flying Elephant: Evidence for Involvement of a Third Jet in the WTC Attacks" is based on very poor evidence:

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Journal_4_Jet.pdf

I know, I was taken in at first, but now I know better. :-) It's almost as if that article was planted to tarnish the reputation of the scholars.

A Doctor of Engineering I know also severely criticized the article "WTC 7: A Short Computation":

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/W7Kuttler.pdf

According to him (and he thinks the towers were demolished professionally), the author's analysis is based on a top-down collapse model, which doesn't apply in the case of WTC 7. There were other issues, too.

Who would be the best people among the scholars to write to about these issues?

LOL... only in America.

LOL... only in America. Dylan's movie will net him probably around 1/3 million after initial release... Good for Dylan. He was the first to take advantage of other peoples' misery.. capitalism at its finest!

Ok, that being said. Dylan doesn't want and end or beginning of the 9/11 Truth movement.. As most Americans would want, he wants his DVDs to sell.

Dylan is a capitalist. I love him for that. But he needs to take a stand. BIG TIME. But please dont talk Dylan... Get a hired rep to enunciate your agenda. You make yourself look like a fool.

Dylan is only in his

Dylan is only in his tweens.. but a great director and editor...what is his background btw?

Chris is gay. No doubt

Chris is gay. No doubt about it.. Somebody please give this guy what he thinks is due..? Ugh. Not a good sign for the movement....

LOL... only in America.

LOL... only in America. Dylan's movie will net him probably around 1/3 million after initial release... Good for Dylan. He was the first to take advantage of other peoples' misery.. capitalism at its finest!

V | 08.09.06 - 12:56 pm | #
no offense, but that comment SCREAMS jealousy.

im not gay, Susan is a

im not gay, Susan is a shill(seems to be a new one) thats trying to start a fight. i have no problem with gay people, and im liberal on most issues so i guess she sees this as a good tactic to instigate. sorry, but im just not that offended by some cunt calling me gay on the internet. besides, its usually the people that fling the gay accusations that turn out to be the least sucure in their sexuality. something we should know about you Susan? are you a lipstick lesbian or are you the man in the relationship?
Chris | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 1:13 pm | #

Chris is like... 20... ?

Chris is like... 20... ? What the fuck does that he/she know? Answer: not much.

Chris is gay. I saw him with

Chris is gay. I saw him with another guy .. kissing and mutually masturbating.

Susan, or should i say V,

Susan, or should i say V, your a coward. this is a pretty low tactic even for you.

are you the man in the

are you the man in the relationship Susan? only a true self hating homosexual like yourself would fling around gay accusations like that. so are you the butch one or the lipstick lesbo?

you know your gonna be

you know your gonna be banned right jackass?

Started now.

Started now.

Hey... easy Chris.. easy for

Hey... easy Chris.. easy for someone to post a bogus name. I am on your side. If the mods elect to ban me for no reason, I will continue on with my 9.11 truth movement. So... fuck you guys! A ban against me means a ban against someone on your side which you so desperately need.

V, your 43 years old and

V, your 43 years old and your the most immature person on this site in a long time. get help.