David Ray Griffin - Scarborough Country - DIDN'T HAPPEN

UPDATE: Looks like they decided not to interview Griffin after all. Sorry.

Folks, I am actually

Folks, I am actually encouraged by the barrage of 9/11 Truth in the media lately, even the attack dog pieces. This has gotten so thick that the MSM are being forced to pay attention, even if the "attention" is in the form of attacking the messenger. Americans with a clue will realize that the attacks only escalate when they realize their side has no legs to stand on.

Any time someone new to MIHOP or even LIHOP sees these stories on the MSM, their curiosity is going to be piqued. And like with Michael Moore and Fahrenheit 9/11, the more the establishment tries to tear it down and discredit it, the more popular it gets.

Yes, go DRG!!!!

Yes, go DRG!!!!

9/11 conspiracy talks on

9/11 conspiracy talks on tucker carlson in about 2 minutes

man, this is really short

man, this is really short notice!!

60 seconds guys

60 seconds guys

you da man MikeJr.!

you da man MikeJr.!

wow. tucker is truly an

wow. tucker is truly an ass.

btw, i'm recording guys. :D

btw, i'm recording guys. :D

Holy shit! Tucker AND

Holy shit! Tucker AND Scarborough... didn't that asshole who just talked to Jason sit in for Scarborough last time?

it all makes no sense. this

it all makes no sense.

this angle that is made so much fuss about the "controlled demolition".

why would these conspirators use the method that would cause the least amounts of deaths by pancaking neatly in its space? you would think they would want it to fall sideways.

why would the Gov who is in tight with the saudi make it so saudi were flying the planes instead of Iraqi and Iranians?

cripes sake if it was about oil we would have had a reason to invade saudi and get ALL the oil.and it would have been a HELL of alot easier.

instead they apparently picked people who would actually make the Government look bad given its friends with saudi.

its the little thing this whole idea fall apart on. the givernment didnt even plant WMD on Iraq to cover its butt. yet we are to believe they started this massive coverup. nah.

the ole "americans will buy anything pushed on them" works both ways you know.think about that when you start going on about how many think something was up about 9/11.

Why the media attention?

Why the media attention? Remember that 9/11 was not a terrorist event. It was a US Military Shock & Awe Program. http://www.911foreknowledge.com/soldier.htm

GO DRG!!!

GO DRG!!!

well that was fun!!

well that was fun!!

I hope they give DRG more

I hope they give DRG more time on scarborough.

Man tucker is truly an ASS.

Man tucker is truly an ASS.

I wonder what British news

I wonder what British news outletts have to say about Tucker laughing at them.

"why would these

"why would these conspirators use the method that would cause the least amounts of deaths by pancaking neatly in its space?"

Maybe because they wanted to minimize deaths as much as possible.

I will be home no later than

I will be home no later than 5:45. I will expect the Fucker Carlson and DRG video up on blogger at that time. Post haste!

nicely done DRG. i've seen

nicely done DRG. i've seen a few of these short, 2-3 minute segments lately, what happened to some decent airtime where the hosts can't chirp in, 'we're going to have to cut you off, wish we had more time (yeah, right)..'

btw ppl, google video

btw ppl, google video updated its video submission to allow videos submitted directly through their page - no longer the need to install local software..

Plus what the hells up with

Plus
what the hells up with tuckers "new" look? No bowtie, shaggy hair. People must of told him he used to look really gay. Now he just looks kinda gay.

after Jon Stewart spanked

after Jon Stewart spanked him on his own show, he decided to reinvent himself:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200410160003

Go, Professor Griffin! We're

Go, Professor Griffin!

We're with you!!

I love how Tucker said that

I love how Tucker said that because reports of hijackers being alive days and weeks after 9/11 were being reported in the british press(BBC,telegraph), that they're not true at all. He's basically saying that only the American MSM is relevant.

I wish Tucker would get the

I wish Tucker would get the first exclusive interview with one of the 9/11 hijackers.

Never been too convinced of the reliability of that story.

The BBC is a bastion of

The BBC is a bastion of excellent reporting (with the exception of the 9/12 article supporting the pancake theory).

Hey- I missed Tucker the

Hey-
I missed Tucker the weenie-boy. Could someone give us a description of what happened?

Hey- I missed Tucker the

Hey-
I missed Tucker the weenie-boy. Could someone give us a description of what happened?
jfal | 08.09.06 - 5:21 pm | #
me too, im at work. how did he do?

Dylan mentioned that he was

Dylan mentioned that he was recording it, so I guess we'll get a video soon...

Thanks Dylan for all of your great work!

Griffin is a master of the

Griffin is a master of the fine line between restraint and forthrightness. Not allowing himself to succumb to temper, he still manages to get his word in. Much better than Fetzer on CNBC last night.

Carlson basically turned a deaf ear. When DRG explained about the BBC report about the living hijackers, and WTC 7, and the controlled dem characteristics, Carlson basically reiterates: "You have no proof, and I think it's sad that you're contributing to 1/3 of the country believing this."

He also said to DRG: "You're assuming that there's a major conspiracy not just by the govt, but by the media as well! Come on! If this were true, we would have reported it!" Oh, but of course, anything outside the American MSM is to be completely disbelieved.

im not gonna tell you guys

im not gonna tell you guys how to run this site, you do a great job, but you should put up a Cynthia McKinney tribute thread in light of her defeat today. i dont need to remind anyone here that shes the only politican that really gives a damn. just a suggestion.im still reeling over her loss, not even that scum Liebermans defeat is enough to mask the pain.

Adam said: =====Folks, I am

Adam said:
=====Folks, I am actually encouraged by the barrage of 9/11 Truth in the media lately, even the attack dog pieces. This has gotten so thick that the MSM are being forced to pay attention, even if the "attention" is in the form of attacking the messenger. Americans with a clue will realize that the attacks only escalate when they realize their side has no legs to stand on.====

Someone Sent out the following email to Oreilly and Fox News (it's in the reader's letters section at whatreallyhappened.com this evening)

To: oreilly@foxnews.com

Dear Mr. O'Reilly/Fox News person,

I think it is just great that you guys are finally taking on the 911 "conspiracy theorists." I guess the mounting number of people including some quite prominent individuals questioning the government's conspiracy theory (i.e. Osama and his band of 19 evil doers in the Afghan Osama cave were solely responsible for 911) finally forced your hand and had to be acknowledged.

So you are now finding yourself between a rock and a hard place. Sure you can yell and scream about the "conspiracy theorists" being a bunch of nut cases and aligned with UFO abduction enthusiasts, crop circle examiners, anti-semitic Jew haters and people who kick their dog for sport. However, the more you protest and denigrate on-air the 911 truth seekers the more publicity you will provide for the movement so that the docile sheep who were unaware of previous government sponsored or planned false flag terror attacks like Operation Gladio (google it) or Operation Northwoods will be led to do their own investigations and will easily find that material on the 911 conspiracy and alternative news web sites does raise valid questions about the goverment 911 story. I am here referring to the material covered on web sites like www.whatreallyhappened.com , www.st911.org , www.911blogger.com , www.911truth.org www.prisonplanet.com etc.

They'll probably even come across this article (or other simimilar information) "The Top 40 Reasons to Question the Official Story of September 11th 2001" posted at http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 .

So I just wanted to say well done and keep up the good work and thanks, you schmucks.

Kind Regards

i know that youtube and

i know that youtube and google video are convenient and offer instant access, but a lot of the 9/11 related videos especially ones that are just things like O'reily factor clips get taken down due to copyright.

I think people in the 911 truth movement should not shy away from formats like youtube perse, but they should focus more on a site like Archive.org that does not remove any content even 5 hour long cable tv broadcasts. The only drawback is the streams arent done automatically for you.

anyoone have the vid?

anyoone have the vid?

Well at least the media and

Well at least the media and neocon pundits are repeating the 1/3 of Americans believe it was allowed/inside job poll. Thats good news. Even Jay Leno couldnt shut up about it. Thats scary.

DRG is the man, but why dont they let Alex Jones on any of these shows? He would obliterate any pundit even on his worse day.

Personally Im not sure I believe the "hijackers" or any of them are alive, I do believe some had US millitary training tho.

Jay Leno is deeply offended

Jay Leno is deeply offended that 1/3 of americans think 9/11 was an inside job. hes a tpyical republican whore that could NEVER believe his government is that sick.

Yeah, I'd really like to see

Yeah, I'd really like to see Alex Jones on one of these shows...

on msnbc just now.. iraq

on msnbc just now..

iraq pullout = another 9/11?

i still say Alex Jones

i still say Alex Jones interview on Showbiz Tonight is the greatest 5 minutes in cable tv history........

on msnbc just now.. iraq

on msnbc just now..

iraq pullout = another 9/11?
inside | 08.09.06 - 5:48 pm | #
HAHAHA. looks like MSNBC is trying to one-up Fox News.

It seems to me that Jay Leno

It seems to me that Jay Leno has a good heart -- for many it's really hard to believe that members of the government could be this corrupt and vile...

Cathy O'Brien (former MKULTRA/Project Monarch CIA asset) even claims in her book "Trance Formation of America" that Dick Cheney tortured and raped her, I think it was in the 80s... I have a PDF copy of her book, I'll upload it somewhere for those who are interested... It gets you even deeper into that whole New World Order nightmare.

Here it is: http://filewire.com/download.php?id=445cbba21c6bbfd43aeb662

J Leno wears an "American

J Leno wears an "American Flag" pin. Nuff said.

any progress om the vid?

any progress om the vid? I'm dying to see it.

"J Leno wears an "American

"J Leno wears an "American Flag" pin."

Whats wrong with that?

>>"J Leno wears an "American

>>"J Leno wears an "American Flag" pin."

>>Whats wrong with that?

Seriously, let's not forget what it is we're up to here. I for one have the utmost respect for our constitution and icons such as our flag. I'm not saying I want a flag protection amendment or anything, but by searching for 9/11 Truth we're looking to replace this leadership and improve upon this country, not simply destroy the foundations.

Being patriotic and proud of

Being patriotic and proud of being American doesn't mean that you also support and agree with the current administration. So, yeah, I don't see any problems with Jay wearing an American flag pin. I like the guy.

go nuts. meanwhile there's

go nuts. meanwhile there's several hundred other countries on the planet.

USA! USA!

pretty fucking stupid. sorry.

"It seems to me that Jay

"It seems to me that Jay Leno has a good heart -- for many it's really hard to believe that members of the government could be this corrupt and vile..."

History is littered with the corpses of people killed by their own governments. And elements of the US government have been sponsoring state terror abroad for many decades.

Jay is a U.S. citizen, was

Jay is a U.S. citizen, was born and grew up there, and I'm sure he has a deep love for his country, its culture and its people. I don't see anything wrong with that. The U.S. flag is not a representation of the current administration... Some of them are just criminals that hijacked the country, with vile and secret world domination plans in mind, and it is actually up to us to expose them and bring them to justice.

someone needs to find the

someone needs to find the WRKO neocon talk show host interview of alex jones - http://www.wrko.com/showdj.asp?djid=14296

i just heard of it now, but after listening to this guys previous shows i have a feeling its going to be a royal rumble worthy of discussion.

"leno has a good heart" lol.

"leno has a good heart"

lol.

yeah, he and Bush.

Look: folks sell their souls for cash. Nothing new.

I'm not a huge Jay fan, but

I'm not a huge Jay fan, but I certainly don't have anything against the guy.

It's this sort of divisiveness for its own sake that's weakening the Truth movement. The last thing we need is fewer people on our side...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8

"It's this sort of

"It's this sort of divisiveness for its own sake that's weakening the Truth movement."

Indeed, the anti Jay Leno faction has completely run amok. Touche.

The interview with tucker

The interview with tucker carlson is not an interview, it is tucker saying outlandish things, and backing it up with no evidence.

Its like he is talking to himself the whole time, and disregards any evidence to the official story.

I meant to say "disregards

I meant to say "disregards any evidence contrary to the official story."

im not anti jay leno, but he

im not anti jay leno, but he does seem to be fairly republican and brainwashed by neocon policies. Does anybody remember his rediculously quaint interview withb Laura Bush? Or when he was on the campaign trail supporting Arnold in california?

Jay Leno says, “I’m

Jay Leno says, “I’m not conservative. I’ve never voted that way in my life.” He “really worries” what a Dubya victory in November will do to the makeup of the Supreme Court. He believes “the wool was pulled over our eyes” with the Iraq war. He thinks the White House began using terrorism “as a crutch” after 9/11. He feels that during the campaign Kerry should “make Bush look as stupid as possible.” He believes “the media is in the pocket of the government, and they don’t do their job” so “you have people like Michael Moore who do it for them.” He has on his joke-writing staff a number of former professional speechwriters for Democratic candidates. “No Republicans.” When it comes to Bush, he doesn’t think his politics are much different from Letterman’s. “Does he show his dislike maybe a little more than I do? Probably.”

http://alternet.org/mediaculture/19909/

anybody on the east coast

anybody on the east coast hear neocon John Depetro on WRKO interview Alex Jones today at 9am?

i have a feeling this broadcast will be awesome

http://www.wrko.com/showdj.asp?djid=14296

Great. Maybe he should

Great. Maybe he should speak out on his show. Oops. That would effect ratings.

Leno's been sold, next.

Leno's been sold, next.

More about Jay Leno... You

More about Jay Leno...

You know what I wrote. It was totally inappropriate for you to push SchwarzeneggerÂ’s candidacy and then emcee his victory party. It hurt your objectivity.

But I used to write jokes for Bill and Hillary Clinton. In fact, in Hillary’s book, she thanks me for writing jokes. And people went, “You’ve lost your objectivity.”

How can you think that didnÂ’t hurt your objectivity?

No more than the Arnold thing. It makes me laugh. Because all through the Clinton administration I was so Mr. Democrat — “you and your Democratic friends” and having Hillary on and Al Franken. And then Arnold announces on our show, and then invites me to his party, and somebody asks would you introduce Arnold. And I said sure. And somehow that has turned into me actually campaigning. Some of that stuff about Schwarzenegger came from across the street.

Across the street?

Meaning other shows on other networks making big hay out of this. Which really made me laugh. I never have given money to any candidate in my life. I donÂ’t show up supporting candidates. But because of this one incident, now IÂ’m perceived as a Republican.

You told me on the phone you regretted having done it.

I don’t regret having done it — because the polls had closed. And Arnold is a friend of mine. I’ve known him for a long time. I said, “Ladies and gentlemen, the next governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger.” That’s all I said.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/19909/

"And I said sure." No prob.

"And I said sure."

No prob. 'cause nurses ie mothers mean shit when you're J Leno. let's have a party!

enough about that clown.

enough about that clown.

There was just a huge piece

There was just a huge piece about the cover up of truths on 9/11 on Lou Dobbs. Did anyone catch it? It doesn't even touch the 'conspircy theory' aspect of it and has Lou all hot and bothered.

Does Lou on CNN repeat later on I wonder?

Say, the google video of

Say, the google video of 911blogger entry O'Reilly Hit Piece has disappeared. Does someone have a local copy of it you can place on 911podcasts? I've posted all the recent MSM pieces to various unrelated BBSs recently, and now that O'Lielly link no worky.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7227410814379806181

.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063292/
Anonymous | 08.09.06 - 6:16 pm | #

^ Thanks for that. Fucker knows it, I actually felt a slight sympathy for him because at one point he sounded close to tears. David Ray Griffin produced the most historic 9/11-truth media performance to date, jaw dropping. This needs to be spread!

David was great, right from

David was great, right from the getgo.

I am not proposing a new conspiracy theory, I am rejecting the official conspiracy theory.

In my opinion, this is the point we need to consistently present.

Tucker was an ass and obviously squirmingly desperate - not to mention, a fool.

David was solid with his examples and delivery, the only thing lacking was of course time.

This is good :)

im not anti jay leno, but he

im not anti jay leno, but he does seem to be fairly republican and brainwashed by neocon policies. Does anybody remember his rediculously quaint interview withb Laura Bush? Or when he was on the campaign trail supporting Arnold in california?
idiot | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 6:18 pm | #
yep. its no coincidence that Jay, not Dave, gets all the high profile republicans on his show.(Bill Clinton goes to Dave,not Jay) and hes always SO soft on them. fuck Jay Leno, ive always hated that unfunny tool, even before i knew his politics.

Haven't see the vid yet,

Haven't see the vid yet, can't wait.

But DRG is a true class act; I can't imagine ANYONE "beating" him in a debate.

Folks say "we need more Alex Jones" or
"we need more DRG!".

The simple truth is that both are effective, and both appeal to different audiences.

It's times like these I wish y'all had read Howard Zinn.

"Dylan mentioned that he was

"Dylan mentioned that he was recording it, so I guess we'll get a video soon..."

Dylan needs to record and take some lessons from one the one that can teach im how to act in front of the media. Dylan, you are a young one, and yes you know how to produce a video on your computer. Now sit back and learn.

It's times like these I wish

It's times like these I wish y'all had read Howard Zinn.
Danse | 08.09.06 - 6:49 pm | #
Zinn is great, but where has he been on 9/11? the peoples history of the united states right? come on......

well, I don't know howard's

well, I don't know howard's stance on 911; I remember hearing that he actually wrote the foreward to Griffin's book?

I have no idea; i read G's book online.

But regardless of where Howard stands on the issue of 911 (member he's an old man for christ's sake), his info is essential to activists of ALL colors and political orientations.

Tucker Carlson looks like

Tucker Carlson looks like hes 15.

How can we get the Tucker

How can we get the Tucker interview of DRG to someone at BBC?

He completely tore apart the credibility and quality of the British media, and he needs to pay for such an assine comment.

Who can we send this interview to in GB that will expose Mr. Carlson?

Any catch Lou's segment on

Any catch Lou's segment on 9/11 Lies just a while ago? Quite awesome!!!

Dylan also needs to get a

Dylan also needs to get a professional narrator for his video. The one now sounds like a 15 year old with a grudge. Not credible.

don't have tv here, so i

don't have tv here, so i just watched the DRG/Tucker clip for the first time. watch Tucker's puzzled looks at all the facts Griffin was calmly dishing out to him. in the end, it looked as though Tucker was gonna cry. Griffin was professional, direct and nailed it!

Um, by LOU I mean Lou Dobbs

Um, by LOU I mean Lou Dobbs on CNN, by the way.

Zinn has been tepid in his

Zinn has been tepid in his approach to 9/11, he wont actually discuss it himself, but he said something to the affect of "its very important work that Griffin is doing". Zinn is great, at least he doesnt say 9/11 truth is "unimportant" like some other notable lefties that shall remain nameless.........

Who can we send this

Who can we send this interview to in GB that will expose Mr. Carlson?
kevin | 08.09.06 - 6:54 pm | #
Greg Palast still works for the BBC right? he would tear Tucker a new one.......

anyone have the dobb's

anyone have the dobb's segment? pretty please? :)

yeah, the Dobbs segment

yeah, the Dobbs segment sounds interesting .i know Dobbs is probably not too friendly to 9/11 truth......

Zinn = Zionist. Don't expect

Zinn = Zionist.

Don't expect any difference in this Zionist anytime shortly. He loves the fact that Israel is killing Lebanese kids and illegally reoccupying Lebanon.

God I hate being at work

God I hate being at work without a TV, what happened on Lou Dobbs?

yeah, the Dobbs segment

yeah, the Dobbs segment sounds interesting .i know Dobbs is probably not too friendly to 9/11 truth......

He may be now. This gives a whole new credibility to the truth movement, in my opinion and Lou sounded pissed!

Everyone should write Lou

Everyone should write Lou Dobbs about his 9/11 Lies segment just a few minutes ago.

Do it here

"Zinn = Zionist" I guess

"Zinn = Zionist"

I guess that's why he devotes countless pages to exposing the zionazi beast. Makes sense.

As for "he loves the fact", you're a complete ass. Care to quote Zinn saying he "loves the fact" that Israel is occupying Lebanon?

I didn't think so.

Harris, what did Lou say???

Harris, what did Lou say???

DRG rocks!!!! he is the best

DRG rocks!!!! he is the best we have if you ask me...

as much as i hate the church, we need them on our side...

you're a cheap slanderer and

you're a cheap slanderer and a liar to boot.

Fetzer needs to decline any

Fetzer needs to decline any more new MSM interviews until he cleans up his act. At best he reminds people of "Fat Bastard" from the Austin Powers films.... only more disgusting.

Get DRG or Webster Tarpley to be our spokespeople!!!. Jones is sharp but not media savvy.

We are burying ourselves by having Fetzer, that "bloviated, lamb chop wearing heart-attack-waiting to happen deviant" on the air.

sorry "inside", that wasn't

sorry "inside", that wasn't directed at you. :)

what was on Lou Dobbs?

what was on Lou Dobbs?

don't have tv here, so i

don't have tv here, so i just watched the DRG/Tucker clip for the first time. watch Tucker's puzzled looks at all the facts Griffin was calmly dishing out to him. in the end, it looked as though Tucker was gonna cry. Griffin was professional, direct and nailed it!
MD | 08.09.06 - 6:55 pm | #

how about his fake laugh??? like its just soooo crazy...

look at him trying to be hip.. lol he should go back to his right wing bow tie...

I agree. Fetzer is a

I agree. Fetzer is a fucking joke. I don't understand why 911 Truth puts up the one guy that looks and acts like a loser and looney tune. Please, someone explain!

not all Christians are

not all Christians are blind, the evangelical site I'm the news editor for has been pushing 9/11 truth for a year. I've been putting up stuff on DRG's new book and other 9/11 truth on Christian forums all over the 'net.

"At best he reminds people

"At best he reminds people of "Fat Bastard" from the Austin Powers films"

Ok, I laughed then, I laugh now, but that's pretty brutal...Surely the man doesn't deserve that type of abuse!?

Fetzer is great, people

Fetzer is great, people around here hate him almost as much as they hate Alex Jones. i dont get it.

Danse. When you hurl

Danse.

When you hurl insults, please direct them. Zinn is a Zionist coward. That is a simple fact.

I think people like Zinn &

I think people like Zinn & Vidale are timid on 9/11Truth because they have spent much of their lives building a rock-solid indictment of our current system.

They don't want to wager it all on a proposition that might lose (fyi, I think we will win).

However, you KNOW they are paying attention to all of this. What efforts are we making to reach out to these people.

Zinn = Zionist. Don't expect

Zinn = Zionist.

Don't expect any difference in this Zionist anytime shortly. He loves the fact that Israel is killing Lebanese kids and illegally reoccupying Lebanon.
V | 08.09.06 - 6:58 pm | #

bullshit!!!

didnt you get bann today...

Just saw David Ray Griffin

Just saw David Ray Griffin on Tucker Carlson. You know what these people are so scared, the same old tacticts don't seem to be working anymore. It shows they are not that smart.
What is gonna be the big push that gets an ectual investigation done? This is the next major hurdle and there is going to have to be some agreement on tactics. They give our people such a tiny time segment and they are always apologizing for it but it's so dleiberate that anyone can see it.

Fetzer is a serious

Fetzer is a serious researcher who's been on this train since day one. He cofounded the Scholars group with Jones and he runs a good site. I agree, he's no spokesperson, but they'll only take certain individuals onto the MSM. =/

* Vidal * people?

* Vidal

* people?

Don't expect any difference

Don't expect any difference in this Zionist anytime shortly. He loves the fact that Israel is killing Lebanese kids and illegally reoccupying Lebanon.
V | 08.09.06 - 6:58 pm | #

bullshit!!!

didnt you get bann today...
inside | 08.09.06 - 7:06 pm | #
thats what i thought......

Harris, what did Lou

Harris, what did Lou say???

Lou had a segment on called "9/11 Lies" which featured a discussion about a new book (sorry, can't remember the title) regarding the misinformation (ahem, lies) told regarding the timeline of that day. FAA and NORAD stuff.

Sorry I can't be more specific but I was too excited to see it to really grasp the entire story. It repeats later though I'm pretty sure.

didnt you get bann

didnt you get bann today...
inside | 08.09.06 - 7:06 pm | #

Why should I get banned? For speaking the truth? Ban away!!! Truth to power. Even 9/11 Truthers here are cowards for banning American's opinions. Fuck off!

Ban Chris. He seems to love

Ban Chris. He seems to love calling people an "asshole" when their opinions don't agree with his... And what, he is .. 21.. a baby.

no, you got banned because

no, you got banned because you pretended to be about 4 different people, you said you wanted to fight dylan avery, you said i was gay, dylan is gay, and god knows who else you claimed was gay(projecting your own homosexual feelings onto others perhaps?), and you were generally just bashing people.

Harris, thanks for the heads

Harris, thanks for the heads up, I'll keep my eyes open!

As should others with recorders ;)

Interesting Zinn quote from

Interesting Zinn quote from A People's History of the United States (p. 637):

"The system...has been driven by profit to build steel skyscrapers for insurance companies..."

Don't tell me that Zinn isn't paying attention to what is happening now.

When you hurl insults,

When you hurl insults, please direct them. Zinn is a Zionist coward. That is a simple fact."

Please elucidate this "fact".

Zinn has been a tireless opponent against oppression of every kind, including Zionist.

Again, please explain this rather rash opinion; slinging mud is fine, so long as the recipient is deserving.

Why should I get banned? For

Why should I get banned? For speaking the truth? Ban away!!! Truth to power. Even 9/11 Truthers here are cowards for banning American's opinions. Fuck off!
V | 08.09.06 - 7:09 pm | #

youre just being a douchebag... all you do is talk shit... no one needs it...

im sure you were ban today...

Lionel is a regular

Lionel is a regular contributor on the Dobbs show I believe - maybe he has been turning him on to a few things!

Lionel said last night he was going to be talking more about 9/11 on tonight's show.

Harris, thanks for the heads

Harris, thanks for the heads up, I'll keep my eyes open!

As should others with recorders

No prob. There's a conversation about it on the Loose Change forums as well so I'm sure somebody will get it. Hopefully anyway.

Inside.. Clean up your

Inside..

Clean up your English... we are in America...

"im sure you were ban today..."

oy... with Inside as a friend, who needs enemies?

"The system...has been

"The system...has been driven by profit to build steel skyscrapers for insurance companies..."

Wow... big admission from a Zionist.

Inside.. Clean up your

Inside..

Clean up your English... we are in America...

"im sure you were ban today..."

oy... with Inside as a friend, who needs enemies?
V | 08.09.06 - 7:15 pm | #

HAHAHAHAH!!!! come on dude, at least call me gay....

At least you can spell ha ha

At least you can spell ha ha right. Are you 12?

The two hero cops who got

The two hero cops who got burried alive under the WTC should ask why building with people in them were deliberately blown-up by the gov't??? If Stone really wanted to honor the fallen of 9/11, he would have made a movie revealing the truth.

Stone makes a LOT of money

Stone makes a LOT of money by being non-controversial. He also has bills to pay, kids to feed and mistresses to bribe... Aw... the Hollywood life...

I agree. Fetzer is a fucking

I agree. Fetzer is a fucking joke. I don't understand why 911 Truth puts up the one guy that looks and acts like a loser and looney tune. Please, someone explain!
Sam | 08.09.06 - 7:05 pm | #

I don't understand why our own gov't murdered 3,000 people in cold blood on 9/11. I don't understand why vermin like you are trying to run interference for them.

I just love the fact that

I just love the fact that Tucker said a professor of theology was sinful and blasphemous.

Tucker offered up this evidence that the government was not involved: "because it didn't".

Nice name there, V. You

Nice name there, V.

You wouldn't be trying to co-opt a recently released DVD, would you?

You trolls do realize that your presence here only shows us that we are on the right track, don't you?

anyone else here ever read

anyone else here ever read Fetzers book on Senator Wellstones assasination? i highly suggest it, great book.

"no, you got banned because

"no, you got banned because you pretended to be about 4 different people, you said you wanted to fight dylan avery, you said i was gay, dylan is gay, and god knows who else you claimed was gay(projecting your own homosexual feelings onto others perhaps?), and you were generally just bashing people."

Show me the quote saying I thought Dylan was gay. A terrible public speaker perhaps, but not gay.

You may be gay, but you have your relevence on this site, Chris.

sorry V, i must have mixed

sorry V, i must have mixed you up with one of the other immature assclowns......

for once I agree with you V

for once I agree with you V re: Stone,

However, you still have't justified your outrageous comments re: Zinn.

Untii you do, you'll be nothing but a petty little slanderer.

Fetzer = Big Fat Bastard.

Fetzer = Big Fat Bastard. Please, stop the madness. Worse thing to happen to the 9/11 movement since the no plane theory.

"Zinn has been a tireless

"Zinn has been a tireless opponent against oppression of every kind, including Zionist."

So where is he and all the other 'courageous' people when we need them most? In fact, it's already too late. When we were desperate they were too busy selling books that make little practical difference to the world.

Who the fork cares who's gay

Who the fork cares who's gay and who's not. This is pointless drivel and has not importance to anything.

sorry to dissapoint your

sorry to dissapoint your fruity immature ass V, but im straight. your gonna have to troll another site for a boyfriend buddy.

you know your gonna be

you know your gonna be banned within minutes probably right V? time to switch computers.......

V, do you think would all be

V, do you think would all be a goof if your mother or father was one of the people who jumped to her/his death from the WTC on 9/11?

Danse, Zinn is intelligent

Danse,

Zinn is intelligent enough to know the inside story behind 9/11. So why doesn't he speak up? Hell, even I figured it out two years ago. But I don't have books to sell.

V, do you think would all be

V, do you think would all be a goof if your mother or father was one of the people who jumped to her/his death from the WTC on 9/11?

Jumped or were blown out the side by explosives?

Or fucking burned over 90%

Or fucking burned over 90% of her body??? Your a fucking asshole!

"Nice name there, V. You

"Nice name there, V.

You wouldn't be trying to co-opt a recently released DVD, would you?

You trolls do realize that your presence here only shows us that we are on the right track, don't you?"

V is pimped off of the movie "V for Vendetta". If you haven't already seen it... rent or buy it.

Joking about shit like

Joking about shit like this??? Fuck you!

I am not proposing a new

I am not proposing a new conspiracy theory, I am rejecting the official conspiracy theory.
- DRG

I suggest everyone debating

I suggest everyone debating these big names stop arguing about them and start writing letters to them.

That should reveal who the real trolls are.

"Zinn is intelligent enough

"Zinn is intelligent enough to know the inside story behind 9/11. So why doesn't he speak up?"

Read it and weep, dolt.

March 1, 2004: New Pearl Harbor Book Is Released

David Ray Griffin. [Source: Public domain]David Ray Griffin.

The book “The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush administration and 9/11,” written by theology professor David Ray Griffin, is released. The Daily Mail calls it “explosive.”

Well known historian Howard Zinn calls the book: “the most persuasive argument I have seen for further investigation of the Bush administration".

How do you like me now, douche?

V, do you think would all be

V, do you think would all be a goof if your mother or father was one of the people who jumped to her/his death from the WTC on 9/11?

Knowing what I know now, Cheney would be shooting quails in Hell.

You're a disgrace to the

You're a disgrace to the name "V".

Danse... a quote from a book

Danse... a quote from a book doesn't mean dick. And please stop calling a patriot names. It does no one no good. Zinn needs to write an article admitting 9/11 was an inside job.

"Zinn needs to write an

"Zinn needs to write an article admitting 9/11 was an inside job."

no argument here, but suffice it to say that your previous clames have been soundly debunked.

What claims? Please name

What claims? Please name one or more for rebuttal. Thanks.

Fetzer = Big Fat Bastard.

Fetzer = Big Fat Bastard. Please, stop the madness. Worse thing to happen to the 9/11 movement since the no plane theory.
V | 08.09.06 - 7:27 pm | #

^ This foos here to polarize! Dz where's you ban hammer dude? Dust that shit off lol.

I just got my Loose Change

I just got my Loose Change "9/11 Investigate" t-shirt ... So fuck off

Zinn = Zionist. Don't expect

Zinn = Zionist.

Don't expect any difference in this Zionist anytime shortly. He loves the fact that Israel is killing Lebanese kids and illegally reoccupying Lebanon.
V | 08.09.06 - 6:58 pm | #

i believe these are the claims Danse speaks of.

Yaw.. ban someone with an

Yaw.. ban someone with an opinion. Is 911blogger backwash or a democratic blog willing to voice all opinions. Especially those that agree with the blog credo

Dem Bruce Lee Styles... you are an American aren't you?

David Ray Griffin was

David Ray Griffin was excellent. He was also brave.

Tucker was, as usual, an arrogant, ego-maniac, who appeared to have almost been put up to attacking DRG.

DRG was wonderfully cool and well-spoken.

These people have nothing to stand on as they are so far removed from the truth.

Too much...even on "The

Too much...even on "The Insider" tonight...by chance I caught a story about identical twin psycics predicting terror attacks on the WTC's 2 yrs prior. They even played the recordings.

Silly I know, but my point is 9/11 seems to be everywhere in the spotlight.

On another note, they were also pumping up Stones WTC movie as potential Oscar material. Oh boy.

Not meaning to sound too optimistic here, but at the rate the truth is spreading, it's not sounding likely that WTC will get any Oscars. :)

When ordering 9/11

When ordering 9/11 Investigates t-shirts make sure to order a medium unless you weight 250 lbs or more (this includes danse and chris :-)) I spent $27 on the shirt which is about $27 more than Danse or Chris has spent on the 9/11 movement. So.. fuck off.

good one :(

good one :(

DRG is awesome. Fetzer... a

DRG is awesome.

Fetzer... a fat bastard

Get DRG on the air more often. Him and Tarpley are the best spokespeople on 9/11 bar none.

Dylan, focus on LCE, Don't go on the airwaves and fuck things up. Nuff said.

so im gay,21, and fat now?

so im gay,21, and fat now? thats funny, considering im straight, 23, and probably way too skinny for my height and age. keep lying and slandering people though, its more ammo for us to ban you with. this blog is all about open discussion, but slandering people that you dont even know? that tends to lead to bannings.......

Thanks V, we shall now bow

Thanks V, we shall now bow to your conclusions.

It seems to me that some of

It seems to me that some of the MSM outlets are hell-bent on being as hateful as they can be. It's like some phone calls have been made to say..."attack these people, make sure you send the message that indirectly reaches the public that says these kinds of questions and assertions will not be tolerated."

David Ray Griffin used kindness and facts which ended up making Tucker Carlson appear smarmy and callous in the ugliest way.

Contact the BBC

Contact the BBC here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/feedback/default.stm

and the Telegraph here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/aboutus/exclusi...

about Tucker's opinion on there journalism per the DRG MSNBC piece earlier today.

Oh Chris.. lighten up... I

Oh Chris.. lighten up... I love your posts. You really just need to get a job and take yourself away from 9/11 trauma a few hours from your day.

Anyone got a rip of any of

Anyone got a rip of any of this new DRG stuff ? pleeease. I can't watch the streams being mac user. Can play WMV but not stream

V is a new trollbot, a

V is a new trollbot, a little buggy -- the rhetoric loops too quickly through a limited vocabulary of taunts. This was supposed to be an improvement on the Terrence/ S. King model with its one-note approach ("prove it prove it prove it no proof no proof no proof" versus "you'regayyou'reyoungIgotateeshirtyou'regay.)"

hey gang, wanted to let you

hey gang, wanted to let you know that I'm having Dave Slesinger
and Michelle Little (Brother was killed in WTC on 9/11) on to talk about the Oliver Stone movie, the leafletting campaign, and related stuff, on my radio show tonight, 7pm, PST. http://www.radioactiveradio.org/
Also, after the show, stay tuned as we're going to start rebroadcasting "Taking Aim" tonight after my show. I'm not sure we're gonna keep TA after my show, might move it to drive time slot but that will require computer tinkering, sooo... for now it'll be on after my show. then switch streams to http://pirate969.org for Chronic Dislocator's new show there, 9pm PST wednesdays. I hope he records/podcasts it.

Also, I'll be interviewing Barrie Zwicker next Wed!

Also keep you're ears peeled for my interview w/ Nafeez Ahmed coming soon!

From the Loose Change

From the Loose Change forum...

"Breaking News, loose change mentioned on Howard Stern"

Actually it was Bubba the Love Sponge. They truly believe in the conspiracy (the execuative producer Brent Hadly specifically) and were wondering if someone (a michael Moore type) could pick this film up and bring it to the big screen. Good shit guys.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10126

Anyone recorded Lou Dobbs

Anyone recorded Lou Dobbs today?

Tucker confuses me. He asks

Tucker confuses me. He asks questions to Truthers who come on his show as if he truly wants to know more...then he makes some a-hole comment afterward. I may be wrong, but it definently seems like he's distressed about the official story, but just doesn't believe in 9/11 Truth. If you ask me, I'd say he was a fence-sitter. His attacks don't bother me because I've seen worse. And I've seen Tucker when he's REALLY pissed about a topic, and he just doesn't come off as truly angry about 9/11 Truth.

He even admitted on TV that he's read DRG books!!! Which means he's interested.

Yes, I am a troll.. I

Yes, I am a troll..

I believe that 9/11 was instigated by particular agents of our government

I believe that WTC1, 2 and 7 were brought down thru controlled demolition.

I believe that the Pentagon was struck by something other than a Boeing 757/767... Probably a small airplane with explosives on board.

I know about the put options on American, United and Morgan Stanley.

I know about the 100 grand given to Atta by Pakistan.

I know ALL about PNAC and their plans for control of the Mideast.

Yeah, I am a troll here to discredit the movement. Putz.

V is a new trollbot, a

V is a new trollbot, a little buggy -- the rhetoric loops too quickly through a limited vocabulary of taunts. This was supposed to be an improvement on the Terrence/ S. King model with its one-note approach ("prove it prove it prove it no proof no proof no proof" versus "you'regayyou'reyoungIgotateeshirtyou'regay.)"
casseia | 08.09.06 - 7:58 pm | #
haha, pretty much.

At least you are honest with

At least you are honest with yourself V

Dem Bruce Lee Styles... you

Dem Bruce Lee Styles... you are an American aren't you?
V | 08.09.06 - 7:46 pm | #

No I'm British, but what the f*ck is this ponk doing, scoping ppls ips or something lol? This guys a paid shill, here to polarize everyone I'd say!

Here's the first vote for a ban, anyone else?

Chris.. seriously.. go back

Chris.. seriously.. go back to your bedroom in your ma and pa's basement and take a nap.

Oh Chris.. lighten up... I

Oh Chris.. lighten up... I love your posts. You really just need to get a job and take yourself away from 9/11 trauma a few hours from your day.
V | 08.09.06 - 7:56 pm | #
im actually at work as we speak. how old are you V? how long have you known about this site? have you lurked for ahwhile? personally, i cant break myself away from the 9/11 trauma,as you put it.

Chris.. seriously.. go back

Chris.. seriously.. go back to your bedroom in your ma and pa's basement and take a nap.
V | 08.09.06 - 8:06 pm | #
V, seriously, seek professional help. unless your under age 24 or so, you need serious help. nobody your age should be as immature and abrasive as you.

Actually I thought this guy

Actually I thought this guy got banned already? LOL what's up with that.

"Tucker confuses me. He asks

"Tucker confuses me. He asks questions to Truthers who come on his show as if he truly wants to know more...then he makes some a-hole comment afterward."

Well, I can speak for myself, in that I had alot of mixed emotions too as I came out of my delusion and started looking for the truth about 9-11.

Not speaking to you specifically, but some here seem to forget that MOST of us were fooled at one point or another about the official story of that day. Some come down pretty hard on those who have yet to investigate. I try to remain more sympathetic, because I remember not too long ago how I came out of my brainwashing.

im actually at work as we

im actually at work as we speak. how old are you V? how long have you known about this site? have you lurked for ahwhile? personally, i cant break myself away from the 9/11 trauma,as you put it.
Chris | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 8:07 pm | #

Ignore this bitch dude, you're helping him get paid lol.

Great idea to draw the BBC's

Great idea to draw the BBC's attention to the arrogance of T. Carlson.

I wrote T. Carlson's show...

Mr. Carlson,

I and my family do not watch your show as we have seen your arrogant behavior displayed in the past and find it distasteful - if not obscene.

I did catch an online clip of your promotion of the official story of 9/11 which is a farce - and the American public knows it for just that.

Your attack on Dr. David Ray Griffin is what was sinful and blasphemous. You appear to be so invested in your ego and personal bubble that you can't see the forest for the trees.
Or is this all for show and ratings?

It is well-known that "mainstream media" programs such as your show are increasingly becoming obsolete because you will not examine facts.
It's apparent just how far removed you are from the American public and the truth.

-TS

dz is working on a better

dz is working on a better troll filtering system. Please be patient.

anybody on the east coast

anybody on the east coast hear neocon John Depetro on WRKO interview Alex Jones today at 9am?

i have a feeling this broadcast will be awesome

Yes, I live in the Boston area, and I heard it this morning. It was 1 full hour interview on live radio with call-ins, so that was pretty cool. John DePetro is a jackass. He started out totally allowing Alex to talk, but by the end, John DePetro wanted to hear none of it.

Here is the John DePetro interview of Alex Jones - August 8th, 2006 from this morning

truthsearching2006, great

truthsearching2006, great letter man!

Dear the Daily Show A

Dear the Daily Show

A message from Jon Gold, who is evidently having haloscan issues.

This was on the Stern

This was on the Stern show?

Larry whats shakin baby! Bubba is cool as shit. He was all for the conspiracy. It was great. I guess Lou Dobbs was talking about it yesterday or today. Anyways, they spent 30 minutes talking about it. Brent raised some really good points as to why this could be real. He said this movement is getting really really big and that the 9-11 commission report was a bigger joke then the Warren commission but now we have the internet and can do some serious damage. Wish I could remember everything they said

Anybody know if Chris

Anybody know if Chris Matthews has ever talked about 9/11 Truth?

Larry whats shakin baby!

Larry whats shakin baby! Bubba is cool as shit. He was all for the conspiracy. It was great. I guess Lou Dobbs was talking about it yesterday or today. Anyways, they spent 30 minutes talking about it. Brent raised some really good points as to why this could be real. He said this movement is getting really really big and that the 9-11 commission report was a bigger joke then the Warren commission but now we have the internet and can do some serious damage. Wish I could remember everything they said
MediaPuppet | 08.09.06 - 8:17 pm | #

^ Very cool.

We are burying ourselves by

We are burying ourselves by having Fetzer, that "bloviated, lamb chop wearing heart-attack-waiting to happen deviant" on the air.

V, you ungrateful SOB. Take a hike you prick!

Anybody know if Chris

Anybody know if Chris Matthews has ever talked about 9/11 Truth?
Brian | 08.09.06 - 8:19 pm | #
hes one of the biggest hacks around, so im guessing no.

September 11 -- what year?

September 11 -- what year? 30 percent of Americans don't know

AFP | August 10 2006

Comment: If 30 per cent are virtually oblivious to the event itself, and 36 per cent believe government complicity enabled the attack, then that leaves only 34 per cent of Americans who actually believe the official version of events.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806whatyear.htm

Comment: If 30 per cent are

Comment: If 30 per cent are virtually oblivious to the event itself, and 36 per cent believe government complicity enabled the attack, then that leaves only 34 per cent of Americans who actually believe the official version of events.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ arti...806whatyear.htm
Chris | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 8:31 pm | #

Wow, that's a thought. Can you imagine being out in the country somewhere and never even hearing about the attacks. And then the first thing you hear is that scumbags in the government had something to do with it, and thereÂ’ve been wars justified by it. LOL unbelievable.

There is a good Howard Zinn

There is a good Howard Zinn radio interview on the Jack Blood show "Deadline Live" from about a month ago. He was asked about 9/11 and without coming on strong about it, did not dispute or dismiss the idea that the government could be behind it. I am relying on memory for this, but maybe somebody could find it.

Howard Zinn is a great American. And, he's done enough. More than enough. It's time for us to pick up the mantle here.

i would love to hear that

i would love to hear that interview altruist. ive always respected the hell out of Zinn and his view on the world. sucks that he doesnt get on board with 9/11 truth, but at least he doesnt altogether dispute it like some others......

hey DBLS, i know ive

hey DBLS, i know ive probably asked this before, but where is that beat from on the song Land of the Gun? who produced that? i love that song....

hes one of the biggest hacks

hes one of the biggest hacks around, so im guessing no.
Chris | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 8:26 pm | #

I do know that he's very anti-Iraq War though...but I've also not heard anything about him.

Chris... you are a "dandy"

Chris... you are a "dandy" representaive of the truth movement. Any parades passing by your way that you can join in your biker pants?

Just got my Investigate 911 tshirt today... Order them medium folks they are huge?

dang. it looks like the

dang. it looks like the shoutcast server is down. oh well. we'll still be able to archive/podcast the sucker.

I do know that he's very

I do know that he's very anti-Iraq War though...but I've also not heard anything about him.
Brian | 08.09.06 - 8:55 pm | #
yeah, maybe now he is, not so much in 2003/04.

Chris... you are a "dandy"

Chris... you are a "dandy" representaive of the truth movement. Any parades passing by your way that you can join in your biker pants?

Just got my Investigate 911 tshirt today... Order them medium folks they are huge?
V | 08.09.06 - 8:56 pm | #
more gay jokes? you know what they say about people that constantly call others gay right? projecting your homosexuality on others again..........

"V." = Divide and

"V." = Divide and Conquer

stop the attacks on Fetzer. We'll never all agree on one speaker, for one good reason: the 9/11 truthers have become "too many" :)

That cynthia mckinney

That cynthia mckinney segment on msnbc was probably the MOST bias thing I've ever seen on television.

Chris, seriously you should

Chris, seriously you should only be a stain on your mama's blue dress.
And yes, you do sound very gay, not that there is anything wrong with that. But simpleton, still-acne-faced kids like Chris do nothing for the movement. Ban my ass I dare ya! V will live on forever... Rent the video.. Maybe even Chris will get it.

That cynthia mckinney

That cynthia mckinney segment on msnbc was probably the MOST bias thing I've ever seen on television.
ksu_s13 | 08.09.06 - 9:10 pm | #
it was EASILY the most disgusting segment ive seen on McKinney yet. some of the worst journalism EVER. i feel like puking.

V, you never answered my

V, you never answered my SIMPLE question. how old are you? i already own V for Vendetta by the way.

I thought "V" was banned? A

I thought "V" was banned? A differrent V? Or, using its home PC now?

stop the attacks on Fetzer.

stop the attacks on Fetzer. We'll never all agree on one speaker, for one good reason: the 9/11 truthers have become "too many"
Greg | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 9:03 pm | #

Oh, me sorry, I thought lamb chop side burns died with Elvis back in the day. Fetzer is so bad for this movement (think bowel). Get DRG or Tarpley on the airwaves. They have reason, logic.. and intelligence. All qualities Lamb Chop is missing.

V, Chris, seriously you

V,

Chris, seriously you should only be a stain on your mama's blue dress.
And yes, you do sound very gay, not that there is anything wrong with that. But simpleton, still-acne-faced kids like Chris do nothing for the movement. Ban my ass I dare ya! V will live on forever... Rent the video.. Maybe even Chris will get it.
V | 08.09.06 - 9:12 pm | #

Cut this shit out please. take it elsewhere.

Let's see if Griffin

Let's see if Griffin deliberately lies again like he did on Tucker Carlson.

Imagine the so-called "theologian" thinking he's entitled to blatantly lie to Americans on national TV.

Simply incredible.

dz, hes an immature ass, and

dz, hes an immature ass, and he wont stop. thread after thread its V saying "your gay, har har, Fetzer is a fat fuck har har har". he wont stop simply because you ask him to.

Since when did anti-war

Since when did anti-war become synonymous with "fringe?"

43? 43 and your THAT

43? 43 and your THAT immature? are you married? i cant imagine any woman putting up with you. i take it all back, i feel so sorry for a man thats 43 and comes to site and pulls immature shit like you have. you really do need help. you fucking loser! hahahahaha, typical bastard.

V Chris.. or should I call

V

Chris.. or should I call you Christine..... hmmm... I am 43, served in the first Gulf War. I killed for $18K a year. Now own my own consulting business. What have you done for your country lately, you fucking loser!
V | 08.09.06 - 9:17 pm | #

your more than welcome to post comments here, but the insults have got to go, last warning.

LOL @ scarborough's world

LOL @ scarborough's world class reporting on the View!

To say this guy and his show is a joke would actually be a compliment.

Thanks for posting the Alex

Thanks for posting the Alex Jones/John Dipietro link SJ.

most of rhe callers were siding with Alex.....it looks like the dam has finally broke. hehe

has griffin been on yet on

has griffin been on yet on scarborough? i dont get msnbc..

scarborough killed his

scarborough killed his intern.

no, he hasnt, and

no, he hasnt, and scarborough hasnt even mentioned it yet. this isnt good.......

Testing...

Testing...

I think he did too good on

I think he did too good on "Tucker".

I think they decided to "pull" him.

welcome back, you missed the

welcome back, you missed the newest troll. he set his sites on me for the most part, i guess this means ive made it! hahaha.

Thanks for posting the Alex

Thanks for posting the Alex Jones/John Dipietro link SJ.

most of rhe callers were siding with Alex.....it looks like the dam has finally broke. hehe

No Problem. It was actually kind of funny when people called in. As soon as the host realized that the caller was siding with Alex, he would let out a sigh or an "ughh". He was hoping his usual neo-con call ins would be calling to dispute Alex's claims. No such luck for him. About an hour later into his show, John proclaimed that he was "exhausted" from the Alex Jones interview. :)

An analogy in the form of a

An analogy in the form of a piece of film script:

Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

Jason from Loose Change just

Jason from Loose Change just did an awesome call-in plug on Stern.

Cool. Way to go LC2E team!

Someone from the loose change team has called into howard stern, I believe it was Jason? Anyhow when he advertised loose change, they didnt take him seriously at all if I remember correctly.

Edit: here we go
http://www.loosechange911.com/download/bermas_on_stern.mp3

Wouldn't it be much better

Wouldn't it be much better if 911blogger had its own forum? This way, we could easily get rid of trolls, COINTELPRO-type agents, etc...

I think he got bumped too

I think he got bumped too because of his showing on Tucker. DRG is the ultimate spokesman. In a strange coincidence, Joe did do a brief segment on controlled demolition. :)

SCARBOROUGH IS AN

SCARBOROUGH IS AN ASSHOLE!!!

Cynthia McKinney has done MORE FOR THIS COUNTRY than ANYBODY in Washington D.C.

Did you see these?

Capitol Hill Police: Cynthia McKinney Targeted - Video Inside?

Rep. Cynthia McKinney Being Driven Out Of Washington D.C. By Diebold Machines

The Weekly Standard Attacks Rep. Cynthia McKinney

it was truly disgusting how

it was truly disgusting how Scarborough did McKinney today.

Wouldn't it be much better

Wouldn't it be much better if 911blogger had its own forum? This way, we could easily get rid of trolls, COINTELPRO-type agents, etc...
Anonymous | Edit comment Delete comment | 08.09.06 - 9:36 pm | #

i dont see how it would be any easier, if anything i think it would invite even more.. there are plenty of forums out there, and these comments are already too much of a pain in the ass to manage.

but, there will be a nice compromize in the new system.

Hey guys, I was away for the

Hey guys, I was away for the day, and the amount of stuff that goes down in one day when you're not paying attention is incredible. You don't notice it when your monitoring the situation during the day, but when you show up cold, its truly overwhelming.

Good stuff today!!!

>Fetzer needs to decline any

>Fetzer needs to decline any more new MSM interviews until he cleans up his act. At best he reminds people of "Fat Bastard" from the Austin Powers films.... only more disgusting.

Get DRG or Webster Tarpley to be our spokespeople!!!. Jones is sharp but not media savvy.

We are burying ourselves by having Fetzer, that "bloviated, lamb chop wearing heart-attack-waiting to happen deviant" on the air.

>I agree. Fetzer is a fucking joke. I don't understand why 911 Truth puts up the one guy that looks and acts like a loser and looney tune. Please, someone explain!

Some of the comments above are a little too personal and insulting and inappropriate. However, Fetzer's performances SHOULD be respectfully and objectively reviewed by us. Frankly, Fetzer's problem is:

Culling strong evidence - e.g. rarely mentioning Building 7 - he should start out with that

Often offering weaker, less substantial evidence:
e.g. cell phone calls, Barbara Olsen is alive, no hijackers on the plane, remote control speculation.

Frankly, Fetzer's media appearances have been spotty, to say the least.

I think he should quit as a spokesperson for his group and delegate a more effective member, such as Steve Jones or Kevin Barrett, and/or others to be the only ones authorized to do major media interviews. IMHO.

wow, the Fetzer hate around

wow, the Fetzer hate around here is worse than the hate for Alex Jones. never thought i would see that happen.

only 20 minutes left on

only 20 minutes left on Scarboro and still no mention of the DRG segment.

Dammit! All the MSM media

Dammit! All the MSM media needs to increase viewership is to falsely claim that 9/11 truthers will be on their programs! LOL

This show is mindnumbing in its attempts to be "hip". I'd slap the piss out of Scarborough IRL.

Was that Howard Stern "plug"

Was that Howard Stern "plug" on today's show?

I have been emailing Howard regarding the truth movement and Loose Change.

We all need to email him asking him to watch!

Howard is very powerful!

What do you all think?

Ronnied
www.487ptown.com

Is she a transvestite?

Is she a transvestite?

Fetzer should stay behind

Fetzer should stay behind the scenes. My heart's in my throat when he does an interview these days. We can't afford bad performances.

Incidentally, I corresponded

Incidentally, I corresponded with Dr. Griffin tonight, and he told me he was definitely taped. If they don't show it... we should blast them with emails.

crap i missed it

crap i missed it

Griffin is rock solid and

Griffin is rock solid and the untouchable spokesman for a new 911 investigation.

They couldn't spin his shit so that's why Scarborough won't cover it.

That makes total scense

That makes total scense DHS.

We should all fill MSNBC's mailbox.

What about Howard's show?

Ronnied
www.487ptown.com

An analogy in the form of a

An analogy in the form of a piece of film script:

Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
DHS | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 9:32 pm | #

Wow, DHS that really is relevant. I need to watch that film again.

He told me that "something

He told me that "something evidently came up. They had never got around to scheduling an actual interview and ordering a camera crew. It was my mistake to conclude prematurely that it was definitely scheduled."

Sorry folks.

Scarborough Country Email

Scarborough Country Email Address:

joe@msnbc.com

okay..so let me get this

okay..so let me get this straight..

Griffin got bumped for Lindsay Lohan, Jennifer Aniston, and Cynthia McKinney's wigs.

oh yea, America's got its priorities straight. because we care that Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston met filming the Breakup.

dammit, now I know that! F*CK!

:D

I have been waiting for

I have been waiting for David Ray Griffin to get some MSM coverage now that the floodgates have opened! I think he is by far one of the best spokesman for 9/11 truth. He is sharp as a tack, scholarly, affable, and a Christian theologian to boot. What more can you ask for as far as drawing the masses in? The videos of his lectures are always what I use to expose people to 9/11 truth.

Tarpley is damn good, but if I had to choose who to put on the T.V. to present this information, it would be David Ray Griffin.

I first stumbled into 9/11 truth via a Google search for Leo Stauss in the summer of 2004. I was researching the philisophical origins of Neoconservatism. It led me to a story about Stanley Hilton's lawsuit against the Bush Administration for 9/11. It was still a very fringe topic then. The fact that Hilton went to school with Wolfowitz and Feith and studied with Strauss is what made me take notice to his claims. It took me until Fall of 2005 to enter the MIHOP region. Prof. Jones paper is what pushed me over. I have been amazed how this movement has grown. Hopefully good will prevail over evil.

P.S. What ever happened to Stanley Hilton?

For those who are looking

For those who are looking for a video of the David Ray Griffin/Tucker Carlson interview, here it is as a WMV file...

http://filewire.com/download.php?id=794306261c6bc204d1521e6

Yeah, Stanley Hilton was

Yeah, Stanley Hilton was awesome, and he'd be great right now for the 9/11 truthseeking movement... I definitely recommmend reading his interview with Alex Jones... I think his lawsuit was dismissed, not too sure though what happened.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/130904hiltontranscript.htm

David Ray Griffin and his

David Ray Griffin and his message are far too important for that Scarborough program. I had it on with the sound off and closed-captioning on while doing other stuff. It was like seeing a cartoon character host a show of bantering imbeciles. The trashing and mockery of Cynthia McKinney was inexcusable. Seeing this kind of stuff on the tv makes me feel like we are living in a science-fiction world. Are they for real?!?!

To the Final Cutters: Please

To the Final Cutters:

Please include the EPA/air quality/rescue workers issue in your finished product.

Thanks,
DHS

9.11.06 http://www.freewayblo

TT: My Philadelphia Freeway

TT:

My Philadelphia Freeway Blog is on the way.....

PNAC

Awesome DHS, hope everyone

Awesome DHS, hope everyone follow!

The reason Tucker suggested

The reason Tucker suggested DRG's arguments were "blasphemous" is because Tucker worships the administration. I laughed out loud at the arrogance and audicity of a hack republican media reject making such a brazen accusation to a career theologian with such a sterling reputation and publishing history.

More people have read DRG's books than watch Tucker's show!

--

DRG is the best spokesman for the Truth movement, and I am really glad to see him have a chance to speak to these issues- even if it was on a crap show like "Tucker".

He is so eloquent and likable- and, given his prior career- he can't be so easily dismissed as some others are.

Fetzer has good performances - like his first Hannity showing against Ollie North - and his not so good showings. He is easily agitated and inclined to lead with weak arguments (cell phone calls, etc.) He also lacks the modesty of spirit that DRG and Steven Jones seem to possess in abundance... But I think some of the piling on here is pretty meanspirited and unnecessary. He's done far more good than harm for the movement- even if his greatest contributions have been in co-founding Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

Incidentally, I LOVED the article by Firmage at the Journal of 9/11 Studies. I highly recommend those who haven't yet checked it out to give it a read. It would be a good piece for introducing a skeptical to some of the big, stubborn obstacles to the Official Theory.

Yeah, Stanley Hilton was

Yeah, Stanley Hilton was awesome, and he'd be great right now for the 9/11 truthseeking movement... I definitely recommmend reading his interview with Alex Jones... I think his lawsuit was dismissed, not too sure though what happened.

http://prisonplanet.com/ articles...ntranscript.htm
Anonymous | 08.09.06 - 10:11 pm | #
________________________________________-

My search, among others, led me to the Alex Jones interview with Stanley Hitlon. I was not even familiar with Alex Jones at that point (Summer 2004). People knock Jones, but I relate to his cathartic, confrontational approach. I can understand why he (Jones) may not be the best spokesman for 9/11 truth in the MSM because of these traits. I do like the fact that he stcks with CIA info, government documents, and the most solid physical evidence to promote 9/11 truth.

Maybe Stanley Hilton had his office trashed one too many times?

Is it me, or does it look

Is it me, or does it look like ol' Tucker has put on a few pounds?

"To the Final

"To the Final Cutters:

Please include the EPA/air quality/rescue workers issue in your finished product.

Thanks,
DHS"

talkin on the phone with one right now...

per above: rescue worker...

per above:

rescue worker...

Dr. Griffith was on Tucker

Dr. Griffith was on Tucker Carlson (MSNBC), not on Scaraborough as initially reported. The five minute clip is currently on MSNBC's website.

"Incidentally, I LOVED the

"Incidentally, I LOVED the article by Firmage at the Journal of 9/11 Studies."

Yeah, definitely a great piece. One of the best.

V, no need to repeat your

V, no need to repeat your criticism of Dylan every single time he's around. This is getting quite annoying.

i thought we got rid of V's

i thought we got rid of V's childish antics?

i thought we got rid of V's

i thought we got rid of V's childish antics?
dylan | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 10:50 pm | #

_______________________________________________

Don't pay attention to that idiots antics....

Keep up the good work!

Dylan, Truth hurts. I heard

Dylan,

Truth hurts. I heard your performances on the radio. Just shut the fuck up and refuse to do ad hoc interviews. Can't wait for the Final Edition!!! When you have a script in front of you, in English. Even Bush can't fuck that up!
V | 08.09.06 - 11:02 pm | #
_____________________________________________

V,

You do not exist.

Wow, the crap of the wannabe

Wow, the crap of the wannabe V just got flushed down the toilet... Awesome!

V, why such an angry person?

V, why such an angry person? were you abused or something?

we're here to help.

Dylan, Just like keeping you

Dylan,

Just like keeping you guys honest. No abuse in my lifetime. Just impatient when knowing the truth about 9/11. I get my kicks out of getting your undies in a bundle by my comments that are totally harmless.

Is it me, or does it look

Is it me, or does it look like ol' Tucker has put on a few pounds?
intheyearzero | 08.09.06 - 10:37 pm | #

It happens to em all friend.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/08/12/e...

http://www.newprophecy.net/Jim_Morrison.jpg

P.S. Fetzer still sucks....

P.S.

Fetzer still sucks....

David Ray Griffin and Webster Tarpley should be the one and only spokespeople on 9/11 when it comes to TV interviews.

Jones, Fetzer, Kevin, even you, Dylan suck ass when it comes to live TV interviews when your ass is on the line. It is HARD. I have had to endure that myself.

You can't get rid of V. Not

You can't get rid of V. Not while Verizon is still in business.

Watch V for Vendetta. great flick.

Well, some of your comments

Well, some of your comments are annoying and repetitive, that's for sure... And if you're impatient, I'd suggest making a real V out of yourself -- get out there, do some activism and work on waking more people up instead of just repeating the same old insults and criticism behind your computer screen.

By the way, that was in

By the way, that was in response to "I get my kicks out of getting your undies in a bundle by my comments that are totally harmless."

a real V would blow himself

a real V would blow himself up.

Saw this T-Shirt once.

The front said "If I was a suicide bomber".

The back said "You'd be dead by now".

I'm reminded of the movie

I'm reminded of the movie "Heathers" for some reason.

V, no one's undies are in a

V, no one's undies are in a bunch. don't flatter yourself. :D

Dylan.. I will let you keep

Dylan.. I will let you keep flattering yourself.. Just keep it real... and don't get caught up in all of this shit. Been there, done that.

V.

"im not gonna tell you guys

"im not gonna tell you guys how to run this site, you do a great job, but you should put up a Cynthia McKinney tribute thread in light of her defeat today. i dont need to remind anyone here that shes the only politican that really gives a damn. just a suggestion.im still reeling over her loss, not even that scum Liebermans defeat is enough to mask the pain.
Chris"........I agree. It kills me that she lost although I knew it would happen. They were out to get her. She was too dangerous for the establishment. She couldn't be controlled. Trust me, she will be back. Also, Fuck Lieberman. That scum bag is now going independant. He just don't get it, does he.

Dylan, My shirt "Investigate

Dylan,

My shirt "Investigate 9/11" is too small. I ordered an extra large to make sure I had a shirt tight enough to look good when I kicked your tiny little as in NY on 9/11, but alas, the shirt is still too small.

Can you please have your t-shirt rep make a shirt that will accomodate a football-sized fist with one H.S. champion ring, one college # 1 ring....no Super Bowl yet. I really just dont want you to get with my rings ... accidentally, if, perchance your head runs into my fist..the one with all the rings ;-)

V, take your spam elsewhere.

V, take your spam elsewhere. It's not even funny.

DRG rocked on Tucker with

DRG rocked on Tucker with his professionalism and scholarly calmness. He is a great voice to represent the movement. With his new book finished, I'm sure we'll be seeing much more of him in the near future.

don't feed the trolls

don't feed the trolls

I think when either Fetzer,

I think when either Fetzer, DRG, Barrett, Tarpley or other truth speakers get a chance to be on TV or other bias media outlet again, its time for them to ask the host the questions instead, I mean, I like to see how they explain all the unanswered questions. Put them on the spot. The only reason why they have them on their shows are usually try to make them look like a fool. We need to use these opportunely wisely. I'm sure the producer have an outline or talking point drawn out. But I say screw that, may be answer the first question then fire back. PUT THEM ON THE SPOT

@ the Anonymous poster who

@ the Anonymous poster who posted DRG's Tucker Carlson appearance [wmv]

Would you please upload the file to a better file sharing website, such as YouSendIt? [ http://s6.yousendit.com/ ] Because I can't get a download to connect at the filewire link [ http://www.filewire.com/download.php?id=794306261c6bc204d1521e6 ] Not to mention that the filewire site is also incredibly slow.

Just enter your own email address in the Recipient email address(es) bar. Once the file uploads, you'll be able to grab the link from the new YouSendIt page or from your email address.

Thx!

Ø®£Z, I'm currently

Ø®£Z, I'm currently uploading it to YouSendIt... It should be ready in about 7-8 minutes.

I apologize. You can cancel

I apologize. You can cancel it. The filewire link just started downloading.

But YouSendIt is a much better site.

Thx.

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No problem. Well, the thing

No problem. Well, the thing I don't like about YouSendIt is that it's good for only 25 downloads, and then they delete the file. I'll post the YouSendIt address anyway in a couple of minutes, in case someone wants to grab the video from there.

Actually, don't cancel it.

Actually, don't cancel it. Other 911Blogger people can download the YouSendIt version.

Okay. But YouSendIt is good

Okay. But YouSendIt is good for 100 downloads. Unless they just changed it. And yes, I don't like that. They also delete files after 7 days.

But if you're sending a file to an amount of people below the download limit or within the 7 day download period, it's a great site. Mainly because it's fast and easy.

Oh, weird, people now have

Oh, weird, people now have to register to YouSendIt to download the files... Well, there it is anyway:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=3864ACB159E1602A

That is weird. And very

That is weird. And very lame.

Thx for trying.

Time to write them an email about their new format.

Learn a lesson from this -

Learn a lesson from this - when you're caught up into senstionalism, it's always a dead end.

They are finding ways of dealing with the momentum and this is one of them. They want you to know the media has the power, not you. They can do anything they want, and they maninpulate whatevever they want to shape reality.

Get the message? They are in control, they are at the helm. What are you gonna do?

V, why such an angry person?

V, why such an angry person? were you abused or something?

we're here to help.
dylan | Homepage | 08.09.06 - 11:07 pm | #
the guy is actually 43 years old(can you believe that?). i dont know if he was abused as a kid, but he calls you gay, and calls me gay on almost every thread, so im pretty sure he has some issues with his own sexuality. maybe he was sexually abused by his dad or something, so he goes around saying "your gay, your gay" all the time now, and other childish, unfunny rants.

Chris, as far as I've read,

Chris, as far as I've read, Zinn is supportive of the 911 TRUTH movement ...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=zinn+%22911+truth%22

And for anyone out there who still hasn't read People's History Of The United States ...

What The F are you waiting for ?!?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060838655/sr=8-1/qid=1155219103/ref=sr...

To the people who run this

To the people who run this site, and to all people concerned ... it is so obvious that trolls pass through here (my guess is government agents trying to distort reaity) (I have, myself, been lead on "wild goose chases" in the past from links in this comment section). Naturally, they want to cover up their crime. I say, be suspecting, always ... Decide the TRUTH for yourself!!!

And to the government agents out there : Get a fucking clue, you are on the WRONG side of reality!

anonymous, i love Zinn, and

anonymous, i love Zinn, and he is supportive, to a point, but a man as smart as Zinn should be able to take it a little bit further than a qoute in support of Griffin dont you think?

DRG RULES! It was pretty

DRG RULES!
It was pretty humerous, in an extremely sad and saterical way, to sit through all of that TOTAL B.S. that passes for "news" hoping to hear a small bit of the most important actual news of our times, and not hear it at all. What a FREAKING CROCK! It is going to be SO good to see all these major media people bite the dust in such a major way after the truth of 9/11, and the justice that will attend it, are manifest. (Do you think they could actually go to jail? They should. "There ought to be a law." Maybe there is. If there isn't, we should make one after the revolution that won't be televised. Any lawyers out there listening?)
That opening piece on St. McKinney certainly has potential as a slander / defamation / libel thingy.
Mike

That opening piece on St.

That opening piece on St. McKinney certainly has potential as a slander / defamation / libel thingy.
Mike
Michael Cook | 08.10.06 - 10:47 pm | #
i agree, it was easily the most disguting slander i have seen in regards to McKinney, and as we all know, she has been slandered more than anyone else.