watch that clip i posted chris, if you can... the lady rules...
inside | 08.10.06 - 12:57 pm | #
i'll check it out. ive heard of her actually.

The Commissioners, the staffers, and Philip Zelikow need to be arrested immediately for covering up the murder of 3000 people.

i cant stomach it myself, but somebody needs to read Kean and Hamiltons new book and see how they are trying to cover their own asses. might be some new info there.

Judge: Commissioner Kean, for covering up the lies surrounding 9/11, an event that ended with the deaths of almost 3000 people, you are being charged as an accessory after the fact, which brings a maximum sentence of life in prison. Is there anything you'd like to say?

Commissioner Kean: It was Cheney... they set up the whole thing, and promised us no one would ever find out about it... I'm so sorry. Please, I don't wanna go to prison for the rest of my life...

Dobbs: ..."on and what is demonstrably an incompetent and at worst deceitful federal government."

Well, no. At worst, a mass-mudering federal government!

So I'm listening to Lionel -- can someone tell me who he is, and if his radio show is national?

I just read a little on "Operation Gladio" here: http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/operation_gladio.htm

The complexities of all these black-ops shit are mind boggling! Even some of the most infamous Nazis were implicated in that one.

Dobbs has been pushing it farther than ANYONE in the MSN in the last year. ABLE DANGER....
NORTH AMERICAN TRADE UNION

Tell me Blogheads...who else has come close? (on TV, not radio)

If you want (and I know you do) to contact Lou, here's where you can do it:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?9

Have fun!

but this is a trap...incomptence is a TACTIC people! By making it look like we should investigate why they are "so stupid" as opposed to "so evil." this will put to rest our theory that they planned and executed it...

Operation Gladio--Popes, Nazis, Mafia, Masons, Bankers, Opus Dei, Masons, etc.... Doesn't anyone follow the "straight & narrow", for Christ's sake???

I just did as Dave Slesinger said, and called the movie theater I'm going to be handing out leaflets to tomorrow night.

I told them that "A group of people are going to be handing out leaflets tomorrow, and we are not a threat."

They said, "It's not legal to do that in front of the building."

I said, "Ok, I'm just letting you know ahead of time that we're going to be handing out leaflets, and we are not a threat."

Thanks for this great video link.

This country is going to come unraveled as it becomes more and more evident that over 3,000 people were deliberately murdered by the U.S. government's criminals in power.

I'm surprised y'all aren't talking about this yet, but there's another big claim of a disrupted "terrorist plot" in Britain today, involving taking liquid explosives onto passenger aircraft bound for the US.

Personally, I think most of these claims are just manufactured crises, since no one is ever arrested or tried, much less convicted, and I won't take this seriously either until I see evidence and a legitimate trial.

But still, it's crap like this that makes me think that the truth about 9/11 might not ever matter.

It was better...but the mainstream media will ALWAYS blame it on incompetence.

timbermonkey, I know what you're saying... BUT, I think what matters is waking more people up about 9/11 so that when these various false-flag events occur, people will suspect the government FIRST -- or, at minimum, not just sign on to the media reports

I don't understand how the people at Daily Kos can vote overwhelmingly that the UK terrorist threat is a bogus way to boost Bush (see previous blog), but then think 9/11 was just incompetence.

Sure, its a step, but not as big a one as they might think ...

Lionel-

The talk show host "Lionel" is in fact a man named Micheal Lebron from West Tampa Fl, near my home. He's a former prosecutor (Hillsboro Co.) and a talk show caller that was so good, the local Tampa station (WFLA) gave him his own gig. From there, he left for NYC, and his own show on WABC and then WOR.

Lionel is a pit bull when he gets hold of a story. His intelligence and liguistic style are quite formidable. I think we can expect him to carry the ball unless they get to him. Let's hope he does.

You can also perhaps influence Lou through Lionel - he has been a regular guest on the Dobbs show for the last couple of months.

OT, I just watched NOW on PBS -- an interview all about media and how it's not reporting the truth because of corporate pressure, etc.

So I wrote a letter to David Brancaccio, host of NOW, to politely ask if he'll have David Ray Griffin on. Here's their feedback page link, followed by my letter.

http://www.pbs.org/now/feedback.html

TO: David Brancaccio, NOW

Dear Mr. Brancaccio:

We love NOW and watch each week. I particularly enjoyed your discussion with Orville Schell. Here's the thing though -- the irony of it all -- NOW is one of the very few major news shows that DOES speak truth to power, at least more than the commercial networks.

And yet, I also know that certain subjects seem to be completely off limits. One of those subjects is probably the most important in the history of this country: 9/11.

Please consider having theologian, author, and renowned scholar David Ray Griffin on your show for a discussion. His new book "Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11" has just been published.

Perhaps such an interview would be the kiss of death to your show (in the eyes of CPB), but it would also be a test of the limits of responsible journalism.

With 30-40% or more of Americans now questioning what really happened on 9/11, this seems the opportune time to talk openly and probe further.

Do you want to help this country wake up and learn, so as to help prevent the next false-flag event, or do you merely want to stay comfortable in the middle ground of progressive politics? I hope you'll choose the former.

Sincerely,

CK

thats the main reason that i spread the truth everywhere i go...

timbermonkey, I know what you're saying... BUT, I think what matters is waking more people up about 9/11 so that when these various false-flag events occur, people will suspect the government FIRST -- or, at minimum, not just sign on to the media reports
CK | Homepage | 08.10.06 - 12:36 pm | #

thats the main reason that i spread the truth everywhere i go...
inside | 08.10.06 - 12:44 pm | #

RJ, thanks for the info on Lionel. I went to WOR's site and read up a bit more to get a sense of who he is. I've unplugged the television since learning about 9/11 truth (and the media lies) so am not aware of the various personalities anymore. It's great that Lionel has been a guest on Lou Dobbs a lot -- perhaps this is indeed an opening for further probing of the subject of 9/11 on Dobbs' show.

The most powerful statement we can make to Lou Dobbs or anyone else is this clip of Building 7:

http://www.knowordie.co.uk/WTC7.avi

Defy anyone to watch this clip 7 times, focusing on different sections of the building each time. If they can do this and still believe that 7 fell for any reason *other than* controlled demolition, then they * WILL NOT * see.

This is a focused blow to the BIG LIE'S solar plexus.

Focus!

inside, yes indeed -- and Alex Jones makes this point -- it's really imperative that we warn people about FUTURE events

Anytime

and, you know, I'd rather blame the government FIRST for new terror events/stories, even if it turns out the aren't to blame at all -- in my book, they're guilty until proven innocent -- especially now with no checks and balances left

Imagine what you would do if you were President and such heinous acts such as we saw on 9-11 took place?

(And perhaps that's a contradiction, because perhaps it required Presidential approval, but supposing it didn't...)

Wouldn't you tell the people to remain calm, and that those responsible would be found?

Wouldn't that then take some time, and require showing the evidence and reasons that certain people were suspected?

Wouldn't that require a trial, with a judge and jury?

With 9-11, we've had the exact opposite. All the evidence has been repeatedly ignored or discarded. There's been one trial of a French mental patient with a stun belt who's been locked away forever.

The Osama - 9-11 myth was constructed so fast, that it just will not stand the test of time and scrutiny.

I always say... the President of the United States takes an oath to protect and defend the people and the Constitution. If the United States is attacked by unknown elements, don't you think he, OF ALL PEOPLE, would want to know how and why it happened so it doesn't happen again?

This President didn't care how it happened. He showed that by fighting the family members for months against an investigation. Both he and Dick Cheney. He showed that by underfunding the Presidential Commission he was forced to appoint. He showed that by putting a member of his Administration, a man known for "public myths" or "public presumptions", in charge of that Commission. He showed that by first refusing to testify, and then by agreeing to under certain conditions. Conditions which DO NOT coincide with seeking the truth.

Why?

WE'RE NOT FUCKING STUPID!!!

because they WILL get away with it (the true plotters, that is).
They'll pin it on their helpers, but they will live to see another day of false flag horror.
R | 08.10.06 - 1:44 pm | #

Don't be so pessimistic. I think we can root these people out because what they want they can't get in hiding: power. I think that 9-11 truth will roll out global change and though it will not be easy to sweep out the old world order, when the human race is united against tyranny, when lies no longer pass as truth, these people will stick out like sore thumbs.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806redalert.htm

Red Alert For Staged Government Terror Attack
Terror alert a trial balloon for invasion of Iran, World War III

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 10 2006

Today's red level terror alert in symbiosis with escalation of conflict in the Middle East is the trial balloon for a massive staged false flag terror attack, blamed on Hezbollah or Al-Qaeda, that will light the blue touch paper for World War Three.

Radio host Alex Jones, who predicted a staged attack on the World Trade Center involving the use of Osama bin Laden as a fall guy in July 2001, has now gone on record with a second prediction that a staged government terror attack will occur before the end of October unless a gargantuan effort to prevent it is launched.

Only through a massively increased counter-propaganda effort on behalf of all truth activists can prevent an imminent cataclysmic horror show that will make 9/11 look like a walk in the park.

We have exhaustively documented that criminal elements in control of major western governments have carried out terror attacks and deliberately manufactured fake alerts for political purposes.

In 2002, then White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told the Washington Times that terror alerts were issued "as a result of all the controversy that took place last week," referring to political heat bestowed on President Bush when 9/11 prior knowledge evidence first surfaced.

From this point onwards smoking guns of government complicity in 9/11 became intrinsically linked with fake terror alerts.

In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President BushÂ’s approval ratings and milk extra defense funding. The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administrationÂ’s black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear. One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar (pictured left), was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press. He was a fat guy running a jewellers shop and had never even been to America.

World Net Daily commented,

“Other sources within the bureau and the Central Intelligence Agency said the administration is pressuring intelligence agencies to develop "something, anything" to support an array of non-specific terrorism alerts issued by the White House and the Department of Homeland Security…CHB reported that FBI and CIA sources said a recent White House memo listing the war on terrorism as a definitive political advantage and fund-raising tool is just one of many documents discussing how to best utilize the terrorist threat.” ...

Continued...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806redalert.htm

With all these outrageous hit-pieces, to me 9/11 truth is now also about exposing the "willing accomplices" in the media. I hope some years from now they will become known as "those that supported the whole thing" while others like C.Sheen will be "those brave that stood up".

If the truth does not prevail about 9/11, the truth won't prevail anywhere.

I always say... the President of the United States takes an oath to protect and defend the people and the Constitution. If the United States is attacked by unknown elements, don't you think he, OF ALL PEOPLE, would want to know how and why it happened so it doesn't happen again?

This President didn't care how it happened. He showed that by fighting the family members for months against an investigation. Both he and Dick Cheney. He showed that by underfunding the Presidential Commission he was forced to appoint. He showed that by putting a member of his Administration, a man known for "public myths" or "public presumptions", in charge of that Commission. He showed that by first refusing to testify, and then by agreeing to under certain conditions. Conditions which DO NOT coincide with seeking the truth.

Why?
Jon Gold

Man, that is just so profound. I'm SICK to death of how obvious this crap is to us, but so taboo to everyone else. Seriously, when seeing what Gold wrote, it is INSANELY OBVIOUS that something is clearly wrong with the official story. Almost laughingly so.
It seems like it'd be an easy fight.
But I'm so tired of feeling like a lunatic and a radical with something that is so F'n obvious.

I realize I'm a downer.

Sorry. I want to have the optimism I read on these posts.

"Seriously, when seeing what Gold wrote, it is INSANELY OBVIOUS that something is clearly wrong with the official story."

You caught me on a good day.

WHO'S GOING TO THE SECOND MEETING OF PA 9/11 VISIBILITY?!?

Tonight, at Panera's in Conshohocken, at 6:30, in the same shopping center as Clemen's Market, at Ridge, and Butler.

Be there or be square.

Bush Admin Drafts War Crimes Amendment To "Immunize Past Crimes" Of US Personnel...

Associated Press

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-warcrimes10aug10...

HEY, isn't anyone even slightly suspicious of this morning's terror alert being raised to it's highest level? All this talk of a possible plot being thwarted.

Okay everyone, it is official, the terror alert is RED and it is time to be FEARFUL again! Now, just calm down and listen to us, we are here to protect you, we are in control. Our gov. is going to save the day and we must pray and look to our flags with hope that any of those evil terrorists didn't slip by---'cause gosh, that means we may be in for an attack. Everyone enjoy your flights, but be aware that you have to be scared too.

I mean this is total BS. I woke up and immediately thought "well, here it goes". How convenient that this all happens just one month before the anniversary, right when the WTC movie is released and evryone is in rememberance mode ( i know WE are always remembering)and just when the TRUTH is seeping out into MSM. Here they come (coincidently with Blair) to make sure we don't forget that we are to be scared of terrorists and trust that our gov. will take care of things. Just in time so that if anyone begins to question the gov. on 9/11 they will reconsider, 'cause I mean, they wouldn't do something like that twice would they?
I am not saying the gov. is behind this for sure. I am saying that anytime anything happens, I am looking at them first and thier possible motives. They are the ones I am most afraid of. They have shown they are capable of the absolute unthinkable.

Be there or be square.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.10.06 - 3:02 pm | #

My gf will be there, but I can't get out of work. I'm still trying though...

I live in Bucks County, but I'm too chicken to go.

Oh the irony - probably the same guys that helped organize 911:

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistani intelligence officials helped British security agencies crack a terrorist plot to blow up U.S.-bound aircraft and have arrested two or three suspects, officials said Thursday.

"Pakistan played a very important role in uncovering and breaking this international terrorist network," Foreign Ministry spokesman Tasnim Aslam said.

"I live in Bucks County, but I'm too chicken to go."

Don't be afraid. We're all normal people. Except for the plants in our group. Whomever they may be.

Jon--

I have nothing but respect for you and your work on 9/11 Truth, but I wonder--when you say that only a small minority of Americans are willing to actually do something about the issue, what are you talking about?

I ask because I was part of the anti-war protests before the invasion of Iraq and I realize how little those millions of people in the streets did to change things; assuming you're asking that "Truthers" hit the streets in the same way, what do you think that would accomplish?

Forget Republicans; even Democrats stay as far from anti-war protests as they can, and I really don't think that we should expect different from them on this issue.

A bunch of people walking down the street and yelling their message to empty storefronts and government buildings doesn't accomplish much. At this point I think we could march half a million people down Pennsylvania Avenue and it wouldn't matter.

At this point I think the only thing that will create critical mass is for whistleblowers to come forward; maybe Jimmy Walters or some other benefactor should be setting up a kind of compensation and protection program for those people who might be inclined to come forward but are afraid to.

Just my two cents....

great 2 cents , I agree.

I'm not sure about dobbs he still would rather talk about border jumpers than 9/11 truth anyday.
He does call out the crimes of the Bush admin sometimes but he is all over the term "radical islamist terror" and talks about the arabs want to kill americans so he is still out to lunch:(

In order to create a "critical mass" you need enough people.

Enough people willing to risk everything in order to make a difference.

People like Mia Hamel.

Hey fellow 9/11 truthers,(sorry this is slightly off topic but...) I read an article in the last couple of days, that said that there is a warehouse in New York that has material from the WTC stored there and different groups are using it for monuments, statues, etc!! There were pics, names of these groups and pics of a huge number of gold bars that are stored there too. This is potentially HUGE!! Is there anyway someone can get an order to release some of this material for an independent fornesic analysis?? Crikey!! Any politicians, anyone in the truth movement that can facilitate this??? What can we do to obtain a sample of this material, that could blow the lid off this coverup???

thanks RJ...

for Lionel info.

Re: Dobbs.

It will die away.

The 911 truthers have not made it easy for DOBBS (or anyone on MSM TV)..

Ditto! It's kind of hard to enjoy Oprah or sit-coms when the real world is going to hell before your eyes.

ditto here too.

Imagine what the GESCHWISTER SCHOLL and other Anti-Nazis were thinking of going to the theater or the movies in the 1930s...

A wild theory on the LONDON HEATHROW disaster:

Peter Pace was in PAKISTAN and the military-intelligence latest atrocity has been thwarted by the english police arresting the elected patsies.

I bet behind the scenes there is infighting. There are a lot of HONEST BUREAUCRATS who see whats going on and are unwiling to partake. Much like the surprisingly large anti-Hitler officer corps in Germany during the war.

Blair in the Caribbian ... while at home ...

This isnt the first time Lou Dobbs has ventured into the jungle of doubting the veracity of the federal govt and Pentagon.

He rates higher than most in terms of on-air talking heads.

where was lou dobbs 2 years ago when i was furiously sending emails to his show wondering where the outrage for 9/11 lies was? suddenly lou dobbs is for 9/11 truth? don't anyone hold his breath waiting for dobbs to follow up on any of this.
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