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Please visit the Alex Jones: A Call To Action thread for hundreds, maybe thousands by now, of email addresses and phone numbers to help you spread word on Alex's latest prediction. The Canadians are really going gangbusters in there, you Americans aren't going to let them get away with that are you?

Also, I have been in contact with the organizer of the FundRaising campaign for the University of Wisconsin and updated the thread with her story. If you'd like to get in touch with her, please let me know.

The 9/11 Truth Door to Door podcast has been updated with a new episode:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=132

Alex Jones' appearance on the Ring of Fire Radio Show available here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=154

Alex Jones' appearance on the John DePetro Show is available here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=155

John DePetro is in severe need of a Truth Spanking, you can contact him here:

Call John on the Air: 877-469-4322 or 617-266-6868.
Email John at depetro@wrko.com.

Also, the Lionel Show links to 911blogger, check it out:
http://wor710.com/pages/46363.php

9/11 Bloggers
This may prove interesting. 9/11 bloggers have taken note of the show as has the world.

looks like the tools at

looks like the tools at WorldNetDaily.com are gonna try and "refute" us:

Editor's note: A recent Scripps Howard survey found one in three Americans believe the federal government was complicit in the Sept. 11 terror attacks. Taking on this issue head-on, next week, WND will introduce the September issue of its acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine – titled "9/11: 5 YEARS LATER, A TIME FOR TRUTH." Along with commemorating the worst domestic terror attack in U.S. history, this provocative and controversial edition will delve into the growing "9/11 truth movement" which holds that the Sept. 11 attacks were an "inside job," carried out with the blessing and/or participation of the Bush administration. You can be sure you won't miss this historic, landmark exploration of 9/11 by subscribing now.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51463

from the story: Big church

from the story:

Big church publisher buys 9-11 Bush plot
Presbyterian press to release book by conspiracist who blames attack on White House, not bin Laden

It wasn't Osama bin Laden who orchestrated the 9-11 attacks, it was George W. Bush, according to a book to be published this month by the Presbyterian Church USA.

Called "Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action," it is the third book on the conspiracy theory authored by David Ray Griffin, a professor emeritus of theology at Claremont School of Theology.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51463

FYI... "The project [WTC

FYI...

"The project [WTC cleanup] was managed by the New
York City Department of Design and Construction (DDC), and the lead role was played by Michael Burton, executive
deputy commissioner, who chaired all the key meetings
attended by representatives of many different agencies."

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http://www.prism-magazine.org/nov03/email.cfm

TWIN TOWERS CLEANUP

“The Phoenix Man” is a fine article, and we should all be proud of the engineers who “unbuilt” the monstrous pile of debris at the site of the World Trade Center. Much credit is due to Peter Rinaldi of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. However, it isn't really accurate to say that he “oversaw” the recovery and cleanup. The project was managed by the New York City Department of Design and Construction (DDC), and the lead role was played by Michael Burton, executive deputy commissioner, who chaired all the key meetings attended by representatives of many different agencies. For his work, Mr. Burton—who is also an engineer and alumnus of Manhattan College, an institution that happened to be the alma mater of many of the key people—was given the Award of Excellence by Engineering News Record. The story is very well told in a fascinating book, “American Ground: The Unbuilding of the World Trade Center,” written by William Langewiesche of the Atlantic magazine, who spent several months at the site and was granted unique access to all aspects of the work. Mr. Rinaldi receives well-deserved recognition in this book as well as elsewhere, and I do not wish to minimize his talents and achievements. But I believe that no account of the amazing project is complete without appropriate credit being given to Mr. Burton and other representatives of the DDC.

Incidentally, engineering students might well study the politics of the enterprise as well as the difficult and dangerous technical problems overcome. Several major corporations and government agencies were interested in taking on the lead role, but the take-charge actions of the DDC, a relatively small organization, convinced the Federal Emergency Management Agency to leave them in charge.

Samuel C. Florman
Co-Chairman, Kreisler Borg Florman Construction Co.
Scarsdale, New York

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"The Phoenix Man

The person who supervised the massive and complex
cleanup at the World Trade Center..."

http://www.prism-magazine.org/sept03/phoenixman.cfm

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Alex Jones did not mention

Alex Jones did not mention his red alert warning on the Ring of Fire. That seems hypocritical.

How does one get a hold of

How does one get a hold of the moderator of these boards? I would like to have an off line discussion about a matter that has recently happened.

Thanks,

Alex Jones' appearance on

Alex Jones' appearance on the Ring of Fire Radio Show sounds pre-recorded to me.

Red hot molten metal flowing

Red hot molten metal flowing in streams? Maybe it was built on top of a volcano.

http://www.pbs.org/americarebuilds/engineering/engineering_debris_06.html

Yo, truth peeps! Come over

Yo, truth peeps!

Come over to
http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forums&file=showtopic&topi...

and help me educate the un-convinced folks about 9/11.

I post things there and lots of people come up with what they think is de-bunking of the 9/11 Truth stuff.

I need some backup who can participate in actual debates with unconvinced people. They come up with some good arguments so it is difficult to debate them.

Come on over, the music is great, and the debates are fierce.

http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forums&file=showtopic&topi...

I just spotted this on

I just spotted this on Ruppert's web site. I don't subscribe anymore so I couldn't get the whole article but it does sound interesting.

"August 9th 2006, 2:31PM [PST] – From Zbignew Brzezinski to the Trilateral Commission, the global elite are abandoning the insane doctrine of the neo-cons. Everyone clearly sees that the U.S. and Israel have gotten themselves into a situation they cannot successfully get out of. Whether the flashpoint for these events happened on Israeli or Lebanese land (in light of conflicting reports that Hezbollah had kidnapped Israeli soldiers) or if the kidnappings were just a convenient excuse to implement a predetermined plan is irrelevant.

The New World Order is finally scared of the beast they created and installed in Washington. They are trying to reign in their Frankenstein; whether or not they can do so remains to be seen. Who will win at the end of the day? Will it be the neoliberals or Dr. Strangelove? "

If anyone still subscribes please post the whole thing. Could be this is why we are getting media coverage?

Alex didn't even mention

Alex didn't even mention 9/11 on The Ring of Fire show - whaddya bet any comments he made about it were edited out? I heard edits, as did another poster here..

seriously folks, everyone

seriously folks, everyone who comes here is already convinced.

Help illuminate to those who are unsure

Come over here and let's engage 1 on 1 with folks:
http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forums&file=showtopic&topi...

One of my family members was

One of my family members was on the ring of fire show about 1 month ago and he told me they spend quite a long time on the phone doing the interview, then they cut it all up and played a highly edited version on the show.

Alex Jones Sunday show on

Alex Jones Sunday show on 590KLBJ coming up at 4pm.

Streaming here....

http://www.590klbj.com/Stream/Stream.aspx

Great interview here. Talks

Great interview here. Talks about israel lebanon and the greater conflict to come. Also some talk about 911 and false flag ops.

Description:
"Bob Chapman, publisher of the International Forecaster discusses how the current Israeli invasion of Lebanon is part of a wider carefully planned and coordinated geopolitical move to reorder the future of the region."

check it out

http://www.richardsyrett.com/audio/bcisrael.ram

Lots of stuff from America

Lots of stuff from America Rebuilds (but not the Silverstein quote, as far as I can see) at http://www.pbs.org/americarebuilds/videostories/index.html

Would be nice if the UW fund

Would be nice if the UW fund article would get cross-posted to 911truth.org in order to increase potential funding exposure.

Nick, use the Contact or

Nick, use the Contact or Submit links to the left of the page to get in touch with someone...

Very interesting interview

Very interesting interview that kceguy....thanks, man:-)

Amazing how rude John

Amazing how rude John DePetro was to Alex Jones. John is about as open as a shut door. Nothing Alex or anyone else would say would ever convince him of the truth of 911. I can't believe people like John exist. The only good thing that came out was that Alex was able to speak a lot about 911. I think Alex did a very good job. DePutrid's interview reminded me of some of the other interviewers that talk to other 911 truth people. These interviewers ask a question, then let the interviewee talk for 5-10 seconds and then interrupt him again and again. And then the interviewer throws in some disinformation to answer his own question. Same pattern. I can think of three interviewers. What disgusting people. THey don't want the truth at all. I hope the thousands of people who listen can see the rabidness of the interviewer. But some of the truth is getting out despite this unopen and biased talk show hosts.

let's look at some urls on John DePetro.

right wing like Limbaugh
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/07/19/wrko_suspend...

Shock jock wanna be.
http://www.hubpolitics.com/archives/000778.php

Red hot molten metal flowing

Red hot molten metal flowing in streams? Maybe it was built on top of a volcano.
http://www.pbs.org/americarebuilds/engineering/engineering_debris_06.html

Well why not? Those towers didn't exactly fall down. They erupted & exploded sideways, upwards, accross, & downwards. This is especially evident if you look as some high-quality video.

I love SPAM so please send

I love SPAM so please send me as much as possible jnsenyszyn@insightbb.com

Come over and engage some

Come over and engage some unconvinced people about 9/11

http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forums&file=showtopic&topi...

Move truth forward one person at at time...

Come over and engage some

Come over and engage some unconvinced people about 9/11

http://www.radioparadise.com/con...c&topic_id=4936

Move truth forward one person at at time...
Anonymous | Homepage | 08.13.06 - 5:13 pm | #
i see Nico has already poisoned the enviroment over there........

What do you mean about

What do you mean about Nico?

Loose change has problems, which the folks at Radio Paradise are already aware of. You need to have more sophisticated arguments than just posting links to Loose Change.

For example, the items being debated in the past few days are about the amount of resistance that would be exhibited in the Billard Balls example, and how WTC7 could collapse, and the recent Salon "Ask the Pilot" story as viewed as disinformation.

Anyone want to come over and read what has been posted and respond to them?
http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forums&file=showtopic&topi...

I wrote Lou Dobbs, thanked

I wrote Lou Dobbs, thanked him and asked him for more work. Thanks for the links.

Check out the brief video

Check out the brief video with Lou Dobbs at the top of www.911truth.org.

He's with us.

i mean everywhere there is a

i mean everywhere there is a 9/11 thread on any site, Nico seems to show up and push his CGI, cartoon plane bullshit. not exactly our best evidence........

"Loose change has

"Loose change has problems..."

Son, the "official story" has far, far more problems than any part of Loose Change 2. Wake up!

What do you mean about

What do you mean about Nico?

We have enough trouble getting weak-minded Americans to believe 9/11 was an inside job. Nico wants us to get everyone to believe that the 2nd plane at the WTC was a cartoon. IMO, this is a disinfo tactic to discredit the truth movement.

I know off topic, but you

I know off topic, but you will love this. Look behind Colmes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x9ejtfRimQ

Nico is a cartoon.

Nico is a cartoon.

I know off topic, but you

I know off topic, but you will love this. Look behind Colmes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h? v=9x9ejtfRimQ
Donna - CO Springs | 08.13.06 - 5:41 pm | #
HAHAHAHA. that guy is tha man.....

Well, ya gotta engage with

Well, ya gotta engage with real folks, not just those who already know this stuff.

I have been debating over here and making some headway.

http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forums&file=showtopic&topi...

Daily Show: FOX News

Daily Show: FOX News Campaign Slogan: 'Hannity Sucks Ass'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh5AFeYSaVk&mode=related&search=

That kind of stuff is what

That kind of stuff is what the Truth Movement should be up to by now. Why aren't those in area of Live Newscasts not holding up Truth signs on Camera? We're runnin' out of time folks.

Daily Show: FOX News

Daily Show: FOX News Campaign Slogan: 'Hannity Sucks Ass'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...related&search=
Chris | Homepage | 08.13.06 - 5:49 pm

Live events is a good idea for spreading truth. Doing it here in NORAD land is quite difficult, and I am sure I will be slapped in cuffs quite quickly. I think the 20% that still support Bush live here.

"...A staggering 45 per cent

"...A staggering 45 per cent of British Muslims, according to a poll by Channel 4, believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy between the US and Israel..." http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2311743,00.html

The above quote is buried in the UK hit piece linked. Feel free to leave comments there.

9/11 Truth Leafletting -

In Photos: ANSWERÂ’s

In Photos: ANSWERÂ’s anti-Semitic DC Demonstration: http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/13/in-photos-answers-anti-semitic-dc-...

Question: Is it realy anti-Semitic or pro-Muslim?

I like this one: http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/answer-dem-14.JPG

Did Bush Administration

Did Bush Administration Pressure Brits To Premature Terrorist Bust? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/did-bush-administration-p_b...

Just made my UW Extension

Just made my UW Extension Donation.

The American people will not

The American people will not be convinced no matter what you tell them. To think that the 9/11 Truth Movement will start a revolution in this country is a laughable pipe dream, mostly because the majority of Americans love their lives and their jobs, and if they did not, they would have revolted a long time ago and overthrew the government. They LOVE America and its conveniences, along with their gadgets and reality TV and NASCAR and porn.

You could show them direct and obvious evidence of the inside job of 9/11, and they still wouldn't believe it. They CAN'T believe it, or they would LOSE everything that makes them Americans: their stuff, their egos, and their sense of superiority. Even most so-called liberal Democrats still believe that only Arabs were behind 9/11 and that the government was merely "incompetent" in handling it, rather than being directly involved.

To rephrase Gil Scott Heron: "The revolution will not be televised, because the revolution WILL NOT HAPPEN". The American people couldn't revolt their way out of a bubble made of tissue paper with chainsaws. They LOVE working for others and depending on the government for their needs and desires, and to think otherwise is patent denial. There will be no 2nd American Revolution. Sorry to break the news.

Meanwhile, individuals and SMALL groups of people must find their OWN way out of the Empire's trap. Let the majority embrace their new slavery. After all, they seem to embrace the one they've got.

nebgreen, Sorry to break the

nebgreen,

Sorry to break the news, but we aren't talking about a revolution. We are talking about the rule of law and the successful functioning of democracy. Our democratic republic is strong enough to survive these criminals and hold them accountable.

The truth has a way of emerging victorious in the marketplace of ideas. We are going to win. Peacefully.

"The American people will

"The American people will not be convinced no matter what you tell them. To think that the 9/11 Truth Movement will start a revolution in this country is a laughable pipe dream, mostly because the majority of Americans love their lives and their jobs, and if they did not, they would have revolted a long time ago and overthrew the government. They LOVE America and its conveniences, along with their gadgets and reality TV and NASCAR and porn."

True, perhaps, but there will come a time when NASCARs have nothing to run on, when reality TV consists of food riots down the block, and porn is replaced by real sex with (!) real human beings.

911 is a good way of busting people upside the head and snapping them out of their stupor; for some it works, for others other methods are required. Either way it's important they we be as prepared as possible for the crackdown.

"Meanwhile, individuals and SMALL groups of people must find their OWN way out of the Empire's trap."

I think a dual approach is necessary. challenging the system on the one hand and preparing viable alternatives to the state-capitalist nightmare with small groups of people on the other.

Eventually, these decentralized units can federate and achieve strength/stabality; at the same time, we need to weaken the state apparatus as much as possible to prevent these units from being swallowed up by the global monoculture.

My two cents.

"Sorry to break the news,

"Sorry to break the news, but we aren't talking about a revolution. We are talking about the rule of law and the successful functioning of democracy."

Speak for yourself pal. The "rule of law" has been about as successful at preventing tyranny as a Hollwood marriage.

No, I'll take decentralized communities operating on principles of direct democracy; you want your "rule of law" and your autocratic state you can have it, just stay out of my back yard.

BTW... I heard that

BTW... I heard that 911myths.com is going to Ground Zero to counter-protest, and to start fights. On Saturdays...

Today's New York Times

Today's New York Times editorial, "Our Porous Air Defenses on 9/11," gives undue credence to the reports of the inspectors general for the Departments of Defense and Transportation. These reports whitewash false testimony to the 9/11 Commission and also deny that any stand-down orders were given on 9/11. The constraints under which the inspectors general operate, as disclosed at their respective websites, show plenty of motivation and wiggle room for cover-ups when these departments are called upon to investigate themselves.

They won't debate us, but

They won't debate us, but they'll start fights with us.

No, I'll take decentralized

No, I'll take decentralized communities operating on principles of direct democracy
=====================================

Good luck implementing that...

"Good luck implementing

"Good luck implementing that..."

Thanks! Although no luck we will be required. It was our natural state for 99.9% of our history.

The "rule of law", as stated, has been about as successful at preventing tyranny as a Hollywood marriage at preventing divorce. Indeed, the entire principle of "law" IS tyranny: a means by which "the minority of the opulent" (Madison) can rip off the land and resources of the rest of the community, creating crime and the justification for its existence in the processs.

Stateless, organic (read:life-like) communities based on consensus decision-making, public ownership and customs rather than laws (cops, prisons and white-haired judges) are the SOLE examples of functioning human socieites we have. Everything else has been a complete and utter disaster. They also encourage, as anthropologists have demostrated, maximum freedom of the individual.

By all means, keep trying to tweek the source of your oppression, just don't expect everyone else to go along for the ride.

avid, I hear you, from

avid, I hear you, from experience

At maddog's request: The

At maddog's request:

The Global Elite Abandon The Neo-cons
by Michael Kane
Staff Writer

August 9th 2006, 2:31PM [PST] – After FTW published MULTI-POLAR DISORDER, we received a few comments from readers claiming we had abandoned our editorial position on Israel. This is far from accurate. We did not explicitly reiterate our position at that time because we did not feel we had to and, more importantly, we did not believe it was the most critical aspect of the ensuing conflict in the region.

As the global elite rapidly attempt to ditch the neo-cons and their psychotic plans, it is obvious that the neo-cons cannot succeed. The question does remain: How much destruction will come to bear before failure is undeniably clear?

But before I present the details of this critical schism within the global elite that began prior to the 2004 election and has now grown to mammoth proportions, let me reference the FTW bible – Crossing the Rubicon – to clarify our position on the U.S.-Israeli alliance:

And what might be IsraelÂ’s future role? Consider the moneyed interests behind the neo-cons as a kind of corporate board. In the new world order that is emerging after 9/11, Israel is positioning itself to occupy the position of executive vice president in charge of Middle Eastern affairs. As it does so, the financial and military powers of what has become an almost openly fascist world order continue to drive humanity toward the brink of destruction.1

And from our Military Affairs Editor, Stan Goff:

Â…the situation of the Palestinians bears strong resemblances to that of the Indian nations in the US.

Â…

For Israel, the water question was the key to the land question. And expansion has always been the goal. The headwaters of the Jordan River are in Israel, Lebanon, and Syria. Aside from the West Bank's underground aquifer, the Jordan - which pools twice in Lake Tiberius and the Dead Sea – and which constitutes the primary water source for the whole region.

Israel and the US claim the occupation of the annexed Golan Heights of Syria as a military necessity, but this is a key headwater for the Jordan as well.

Â…

Zionists actively collaborated with Nazis. This is a verifiable historical fact. Not only did the Zionist Federation of Germany send a resolution of support to the Nazi Party in 1933, "the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 defeated a resolution calling for action against Hitler by a vote of 240 to 43.

The history of Zionist collaboration with fascism is barely touched upon here, because my intent is not to paraphrase the history but simply to make my point about the obscenity of Zionists now laying claim to the Nazi Holocaust as justification for the Palestinian Holocaust they are perpetrating to this very day, all the while claiming that the Palestinians and other Arabs are bent on reproducing Nazi Germany's crimes against them.2

Do not mistake our analysis of neo-con failures as support for their right-wing objectives.

The common ground held by the neo-cons and their counterparts in Tel Aviv is not a conspiracy – it is an open alliance. They produce documents stating what they want to achieve and by what means, then they sign them like a binding blood oath none can wiggle out of. Everyone understands this, especially the Arab world. If you must call it a conspiracy it is an open-conspiracy.

Another way of putting this is that the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) is not a conspiracy, but the “catastrophic and catalyzing event” they prayed for in their documents – 9/11 – was a conspiracy. It is of interest to note that even within PNAC there has been a schism3, as the chaos of current events unfolding now has made it near impossible for even hard-line right-wingers to agree on strategy.

SCHISM

The global elite – including the Trilateral Commission and Zibignew Brzezinski – has turned its backs on the neo-cons and Israel. After attending the fifth annual ASPO (the Association for the Study of Peak Oil) Conference, held in Pisa, Italy, Richard Heinberg, author of THE PARTY’S OVER and POWERDOWN, wrote extensively about a presentation given by Iranian author Terence Ward.

Ward discussed a recent Trilateral Commission Report — Is There a Plan B? — prepared for the plenary meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Tokyo, which recommended US-Iran negotiations with the goal of creating a Regional Middle East Nuclear Council, which would engage all countries with nuclear weaponry: The United States, Russia, Israel, Iran, China, India, Pakistan, Japan, the UK and France. IAEA inspections would be accelerated, with open, transparent, unrestricted access in all countries. Israel would be provided with a comprehensive security package, and Iran would be offered explicit US security guarantees. Meanwhile the Middle East would be offered a modern Marshall Plan to provide Palestine, Jordan, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, Egypt and Algeria access to the WTO and World Bank funding. A regional Middle East Water Council would deal with the region’s most valuable resource. Potential members would include Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Israel, Palestine, and Jordan. Finally, a Middle East Energy Council would deal with the region’s other valuable resources—oil and gas. Regional pipelines, oil security, technology-sharing, and reservoir depletion and monitoring would all be discussed. Such a council would include Saudi Arabia, the United Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, Iraq, and Iran.

This plan has the potential to avert the looming conflict, but it is handicapped by conventional Western notions about the benefits of association with the World Bank and WTO. WardÂ’s presentation was remarkable for its depiction of Bush and Ahmadinejad as two sides of the same coin. Both need external conflict to maintain domestic legitimacy, and both are right-wing hard-liners supported by religious fundamentalists; they are also unpopular at home and habitually rely on bravado to boost their image.

There are those who maintain that a US attack on Iran is unlikely because the negative consequences for America would be severe and the benefits few or nonexistent. I recently made the acquaintance of an Air Force officer with a high-level security clearance who receives daily classified briefings; while being careful not to divulge secret information, he insisted that no bombing campaign is being seriously contemplated. I can only hope heÂ’s right.4

Â…

Recently, General Pace, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, apparently forced the White House to agree not to use nuclear weapons in its planned bombing campaign. This rebellion by the military has infuriated the White House.5

The military is not a monolith. There is no guarantee that military officials will carry out insane orders from their leaders especially as the world elite turns their backs to them.

Zbignew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor to President Carter, is the author of THE GRAND CHESSBOARD. This book laid out the need for coming energy wars in Central Asia and the Middle East. Four years before 9/11, Brzezinski stated that in order to proceed with the “imperial mobilization” necessary to commandeer the last remaining hydrocarbon reserves on the planet, a catastrophic and catalyzing event on par with Pearl Harbor would have to occur.

Now Brzezinski notes the failure of the neo-cons to implement such imperial mobilization with any chance of succeeding. Brzezinski was recently quoted as saying the following:

These neocon prescriptions, of which Israel has its equivalents, are fatal for America and ultimately for Israel. They will totally turn the overwhelming majority of the Middle East's population against the United States. The lessons of Iraq speak for themselves. Eventually, if neo-con policies continue to be pursued, the United States will be expelled from the region and that will be the beginning of the end for Israel as well.6

Two months before BrzezinskiÂ’s statement appeared in print, Richard Debs, former President of Morgan Stanley International, said the war in Lebanon is now viewed as a U.S. war, and it will take decades for America to recover from refusing to stop the violence.7

On June 20th in Crystal City, where the Pentagon is now holding interagency discussions on energy, Matt Simmons, one of the world’s foremost energy experts, gave a presentation in which he said there should not be a military plan to fight for control of energy because the U.S. “will probably lose.” 8

These energy conversations were sparked by a small group in Washington, D.C. that formed around former Director of Central Intelligence for the Clinton Administration, James Woolsey, who has taken a strong interest in energy issues since 9/11. The group began to form just after the 2004 election.

The events are sponsored by the Pentagon but are handled by the Center for Naval Analysis (CNA). Mitze Wertheim, who has managed these events for CNA, worked for Woolsey when he was an Undersecretary for the Navy. It seems as though the neoliberals have strong Navy support right now,9 and the events transpiring in the Middle East are certain to strengthen this elite lean to the so-called “Left.”

Even before the 2004 election there were signs that the global elite and CIA were splitting with the Bush Administration.10 Valerie Plame, the former CIA agent whose name was revealed by a Bush Administration official, is back in the news having now filed a civil complaint against Dick Cheney, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, and Karl Rove.11 Libby, Cheney’s former Chief of Staff, has been indicted on criminal charges for allegedly being the source of the leak that ended up outing Plame in the press as a CIA operative.

The pressure is on, and the Bush Administration can feel their backs against the wall. That

(continued...) The pressure

(continued...)

The pressure is on, and the Bush Administration can feel their backs against the wall. ThatÂ’s a bad place for a bully to be, because he will usually respond with the only advantage he holds - not intelligence, or cunning, or charm, but brute force.

That is what we are seeing right now, but the bullyÂ’s elite sponsors appear to be fed up.

Footnotes:

1 Crossing the Rubicon, page 268

2 Stan Goff, “Jurassic Park, Psuedo-events, and Prisons,” FTW, June 14, 2004 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/071404_jurassic_park4.shtml

3 Jim Lobe,"New American Century" Project Ends With A Whimper ,” Common Dreams, June 13, 2006 http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0613-05.htm

4 Richard Heinberg, “Middle East at a crossroads,” Energy Bulletin, August 4, 2006 http://www.energybulletin.net/18904.html

5 Ibid

6 Daniel M. Pourkesali, “Brzezinski: The Beginning of the End for Israel,” Campaign Against Sanctions and Military Intervention in Iran, August 3, 2006 http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/page/p/Brzezinski-The-Beginning-of-th...

7 http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/08/1453233

8 June 20, 2006, I attended the fourth interagency conversation on energy sponsored by The Department of Defense and The Center for Naval Analysis (CNA)

9 Micahel Kane, “Discussing Energy With DoD – Conversation #1,” FTW, April 3, 2006 http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/040306_discussing_energy.shtml

10 Michael C. Ruppert, “COUP D’ETAT,” FTW, June 8, 2004 http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/080905_coup_detat.shtml

11 Alan Freeman, “Plame files suit against top U.S. officials,” Globeandmail, July 14, 2006 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060714.LEAK14/TPStory...

Those Canuckers are outdoing

Those Canuckers are outdoing you in this Action Thread:

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/08/alex-jones-call-to-action.html

Need some American representation...

CNN's Amanpour Links 9/11

CNN's Amanpour Links 9/11 Truthers With Sky Terrorists: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/344307.shtml

Descent Into Moral

Descent Into Moral Barbarism

Should Alan Dershowitz Target Himself for Assassination?

By Norman Finkelstein

08/13/06 "Counterpunch" -- -- As Israel's military bravely fires away shells and missiles to lay waste the fragile human and physical infrastructure of Lebanon, Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, waging battle on a second front to legitimize Israel's criminal aggression, bravely fires away op-eds from his foxhole at Martha's Vineyard to lay waste the fragile infrastructure of international law. These are but the latest salvoes in Dershowitz's long and distinguished career of apologetics on behalf of his Holy State.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article14523.htm

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People like Alan Dershowitz

People like Alan Dershowitz make this world the hostile, cruel place it is.

While John was biased

While John was biased towards Alex to some degree, I think that Alex could have gotten the information across a lot better if he calmed down a bit and didn't get so emotional.

Additionally I think that he should have directly answered each question that John asked him and then presented counter information (with links to the news stories) after the fact.

IMO, Good debate is all about maintaining a steady tempo, and shouting one's own version of the truth doesn't make for the most compelling of arguments.

LOL. I like how you use

LOL. I like how you use Canadian effort to get email addresses to light a fire in the butts of Americans. Funny stuff!

9/11 was so obviously an

9/11 was so obviously an inside job i can't even tolerate people who even remotely support the official story.
Truthers mention sick amounts of evidence and they get BS questions like "where were the passengers taken?" or comments like "are they an vacation somewhere?"
We are all sick of answering questions we want answers. Alex just gets pissed i think.

***9/11 was so obviously an

***9/11 was so obviously an inside job i can't even tolerate people who even remotely support the official story.
Truthers mention sick amounts of evidence and they get BS questions like "where were the passengers taken?" or comments like "are they an vacation somewhere?"
We are all sick of answering questions we want answers. Alex just gets pissed i think.***

You make some good points vigilo, but I think that all 9/11 truthers should realize that not all people are 9/11 truthers (or even remotely awake for that matter.) ;0 )

IMO It's all about knowing who the target audience you're speaking to is.

Vigilo, I share your

Vigilo,

I share your frustration. There is no question that 9/11 was an Inside Job. Those who refuse to see the truth now are the worst kind of traitors to our country. I have no sympathy for that level of ignorance anymore. Refusal to see the light today is not only frightening, it's downright dangerous as we all know, the next 9/11 is right around the corner.

This Canuck is researching

This Canuck is researching email addresses of Texas newspapers. Ugh. I just passed Crawford. Can some of you do your OWN dirty work? LOL ;)

Alex says we have the plans

Alex says we have the plans for 9/11.

Anyway... here's some stuff regarding the hijackers and U.S. Military.

Some Hijackers Trained By U.S. Military, Connected To U.S. Military Base?

"It woulda come out in the

"It woulda come out in the 9/11 Commission"

That's what John said after arguing with Alex.

How does that make you feel?

Thanks Anonymous for

Thanks Anonymous for posting the FTW article. Much appreciated.....Like Chris Rose and the rest I can no longer tolerate people who don't see through the myth of 9/11. I just shake my head in disgust. I no longer argue with them or even try to explain 9/11 to them. I can't be bothered. I also can no longer stand people who say "Support our troops". Anyone who is dumb enough to enlist in the military doesn't deserve my support or respect.

"I also can no longer stand

"I also can no longer stand people who say "Support our troops".

maddog... we should support the troops. Everyone in the movement, I think, pushes 9/11 Truth partly because we think it will end the wars of aggression in the Middle East. Thereby bringing our soldiers home. Part of the reason I do what I do is for them.

Remember, they're being fed ridiculous amounts of propaganda. They're serving 3x longer than they should in some cases. They're being ordered to do things that are inhumane. I can't imagine what it's like to be there.

We can't judge them because they are there for a lie. When someone joins the military, they are under the assumption that their Commander In Cheif would never send them to war unnecessarily.

That doesn't mean we excuse the few criminal elements in the military.

They need to come home. Period.

My war was Viet Nam. I

My war was Viet Nam. I joined the National Guard to avoid the draft. I my day a man had to serve. I knew wars were fought for power hungry and money hungry politicians. I knew that even as a kid. If I had a choice I never would have joined. After I was in the Guard for a few years I couldn't stand it. I figured a way to get out and it worked. I got a hardship discharge. Today I have two sons that are military age. They think just like I do. There is no way they would join. War is nothing but legal murder. I didn't raise murderers. There is an old saying, "What if they threw a war and nobody showed up?" The day young men realize that war is a racket and don't show up all wars will end and we will live in peace. I cannot in good conscience support our troops.

well said maddog.

well said maddog.

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Here's the link for the latest 911 Synchronicity Podcast:

Episode 4: How to rise above fear by re-discovering history.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/ re...ing_History.mp3

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Here's the link for the

Here's the link for the latest 911 Synchronicity Podcast:

Episode 4: How to rise above fear by re-discovering history.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/renaissance/911_SYNCHRONICITY_Episode_004_...

www.911synchronicity.com