September 11th: Lists and Links

Check this out, its not quite complete yet, so all links aren't available, but its a nice job so far:

http://www.commoncapital.net/downloads/lists&links-preview-7-17-0.html

Are you physically

Are you physically challenged?...

i'll make you guys a deal:
if you can explain to my satisfaction how/why the giant aluminum tail section of ua175 disappeared without a trace into the side of wtc2 without any of it breaking off yet there was no corresponding hole in wtc2 where the aluminum tail section disappeared, then and only then will i stop with the no-planes spiel.
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james ha |

Here's the deal, James. Onboard both the planes that hit the towers they had whatever chemical/compositional elements it was to have required to make the unbelievable specatcle of the impacts. Any Clown can tell you how to run this kind of a circus.

Secondly, I personally felt the materials that were used to coat the inside surfaces of the external panels. My story is fully documented, and it's in the hands of the US Military.

This particular surface was like green sticky-goo with rocks in it. I was told not to touch, and I am generally very respectful of sculptures, which this piece was. A very precious, scale model built to demonstrate the application.

When the aluminum plane hits these panels, Air rushes in to ignite the Sodium. I say sodium, because it burns on contact, and accelerates with water.

The chunks are probably Magnesium, the binder clearly contains Sulfur, (or has turned to this color.) The NIST/Scholars group reportedly has been looking for that source of sulfur, as shown in EPA air-quality reports.

Looking back at the CBC up-shot footage from West St, I see a tell-tale 'pool' of motion, suggesting there was a cause-effect field within the hit itself. So, it blows back like a volcano. This is incongruous with all normal physics, whereas the fuel splashes on the building, and the cone comes to a stop between a clear wedge of rubbish down the center. There's no way to get an ordinary plane in otherwise.

Now, you have a place to rest your hat on this no-plane issue at WTC. I suggest everybody take the 'film analysists' at face value. To a man, they all work their hearts out, and I certainly help them at every turn. I only worked there about 2 months. What's missing is more voices from the actual tenant-roster, who could collectively answer lots of mysteries.

spread that link to every

spread that link to every computer on the internet!!

totally influential---

everything has gradually come together---time to bring this on!!

Okay, I realize this is a

Okay, I realize this is a draft so I'll give some notes. I like the idea of grouping evidence into tiers. The NEWS acronymm is cute. But in tier 1:

WTC 7 was not "undeniably destroyed in controlled demolition." Why not just say, "any idiot can see..."? Please rephrase.

typos -- "less that 3 months", the PDB was August 6, not the 5th.

The "22% occupancy" one doesn't make sense to me. I think I maybe understand what they're saying but I'd rather not have to wonder. Maybe some punctuation will correct that one.

And why is everything a goddamn image instead of text???

I'm not all complaints, though. Good effort. I will read the whole thing. Is there any particular place to send feedback/corrections other than here?

WOW! I'VE been waiting for

WOW!

I'VE been waiting for this!

Thank you so much and I will be sending this link out!

Cant wait to review it all...

Its so hard convincing people that saw the twin towers collapse that it was an inside job.

My experience tonight was exhausting!
The man I dealt with tonight saw the towers go down. He was spent. He thought it was all too depressing to listen to anymore.

How do we deal with these types of people that just don't want to know?

This is not dicouraging me I must say. I will not stop, or give up!

My own part of this movement has just begun.

I just would like to know how others deal with this type of person! How can we get people to care, and convince them that they can do something?

Ronnied
www.487ptown.com

WTC 7 was not "undeniably

WTC 7 was not "undeniably destroyed in controlled demolition."
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WTF?

Incredible site!

Incredible site!

Thank you very much for all

Thank you very much for all the work you put into creating the site!

Nice!

WTC 7 was not "undeniably

WTC 7 was not "undeniably destroyed in controlled demolition."
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WTF?
Anonymous | 08.14.06 - 10:42 pm | #

What don't you get?

I believe WTC 7 was destroyed by controlled demolition. Most (all?) of the people on this blog do. I'm guessing you do too. My point was that a document intended to introduce people to 9/11 truth and perhaps convince them that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition ought to avoid using words like "undeniably".

I understand your logic, but

I understand your logic, but we don't have time to dance around the bush. WTC 7 WAS AN OBVIOUS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. It is obvious enough to just come right out and say it.

They might be temporarily turned off, but they won't be able to refute it, and they will keep thinking about it.

* beat around the bush

* beat around the bush

Stop with the POD stuff!

Stop with the POD stuff! Stop with the CGI No Plane Stuff..........STOP!!!!!!!

A really great idea. Should

A really great idea. Should save us all a lot of time searching.

9/11 NUN'S DYING

9/11 NUN'S DYING PLEA:
AUTOPSY MY BODY TO AID WTC
AILING

By SUSAN EDELMAN in New York and JULIE STAPEN in Aiken, S.C.

ANGEL OF MERCY: Sister Cindy Mahoney (with attorney David Worby) rushed to the World Trade Center on 9/11,and says she is now dying because of it.
Photo: Julie Stapen

August 13, 2006 -- A nun who spent six months blessing human remains in the rubble at Ground Zero says she is dying of lung disease and wants her body autopsied to prove that she and her fellow 9/11 workers were sickened by the poisonous air at the site.
Sister Cindy Mahoney, 54, summoned David Worby, the lawyer representing thousands of sick Ground Zero workers, to her Aiken, S.C., hospice last week and requested that he act as her guardian and fulfill her dying wish by overseeing her autopsy after she's gone. "I can still do God's work," Mahoney said Thursday in Aiken, her hometown, where she lay connected to oxygen tubes.
She was surprisingly upbeat, even laughing at jokes - which reduced her to violent coughing.
"She's an angel," Worby told The Post after meeting with Mahoney privately. He said she hugged him warmly, cried, and told him how her previous pleas for help had gone unheeded.
"The government should help these people - not leave them to die like I'm dying," she told Worby.
Mahoney, a former emergency-medical technician, dashed from a Midtown convent and hopped on an ambulance to Ground Zero after the first plane hit the World Trade Center's north tower on 9/11. She stayed there through the night. She then donned her habit and spent nearly every day for the next six months as a volunteer with the American Red Cross and the city medical examiner's fatality team.
Officials said Mahoney was a chaplain at Ground Zero and at Pier 94, where she consoled relatives of those killed. She was photographed for People magazine that October, and told the publication, "Some people just want to hold our hand."
According to Worby, she now suffers from asthma, reactive airways dysfunction syndrome, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and gastroesophageal reflux disease - all severe illnesses that have plagued WTC workers.
Only after spending weeks at Ground Zero was she was given a respiratory mask, Worby said, but she was not told how to use it. And because her job was to pray and talk to people, "she kept taking it off."
Mahoney also suffers post-traumatic stress syndrome, Worby and others said. She witnessed WTC victims burn or jump to their deaths, and prayed over countless human remains.
Unaware until recently that many others who worked at Ground Zero were sick, Mahoney last week tracked down Worby, an outspoken advocate for the health of 9/11 workers. He filed the first lawsuit for a leukemia-stricken NYPD detective who served at Ground Zero and the Fresh Kills landfill, a case that mushroomed into a massive class action with 8,000 WTC workers.
If Mahoney joins the suit, she would leave any money to those in need, she said.
During the meeting, a priest friend, Father Scotty, gave Mahoney Communion.
"She would do it all again. She would give her life again," the priest said. "She still believes God's mission for her is to help, through her death, the other 40,000 rescue and recovery workers get medical care, testing and coverage," Worby said. "She feels that anyone who gave their lives for others should be taken care of better than she's been taken care of."
Mahoney is staying in an old, stuffy house on a semi-rural road outside Aiken. The place belongs to friends who took her in and receive a "hospice" stipend from Medicaid to house and feed her.
Mahoney's closest companions, her 24-year-old niece and her niece's 3-year-old son, sleep on a mattress on the floor in the same cramped room. "They're my reason for living,'" she said.
Mahoney, a nonsmoker, was an active scuba diver before 9/11, Worby said. The Guillain-Barré syndrome she suffered three decades ago flared up again last year. Worby asserts that heavy metals at Ground Zero caused immune deficiencies that triggered such neurological disorders.
Mahoney was a junior nun with the Order of St. Helena in Augusta, S.C., an Episcopal sisterhood, when she was transferred to New York City not long before 9/11, she said. She lived at the order's modest East 28th Street convent, which runs a novitiate, a program for beginning nuns who have not yet taken final vows.
When Mahoney heard the news about the first plane hitting, she asked another nun, "What's the Twin Towers?" Worby said.
A sister at the convent told The Post that Mahoney ran out the door that day. "She told me she was going down to help," the nun said. Mahoney threw on an old EMT uniform from her former post with a rescue squad in South Carolina, and raced four blocks to Bellevue Hospital to volunteer. Warned that many people were dying, she said, she jumped into an ambulance en route to the scene, using a marker to write her name, address and phone number on her arm as identification.
When the first tower fell, she hid behind a tombstone at St. Paul's Church across the street. "The air was so thick and hot I could not breathe . . . It felt to me that the sky was falling. I thought I would die," she wrote in an account of the day.
When the second tower fell, "two firefighters and I were able to get underneath a firetruck, and they shared their air with me."
In an Oct. 12, 2001, e-mail to a friend back home, Mahoney described her work at the morgue: "Sometimes I pray over a body bag that has a firefighter's complete uniform from his helmet to his jacket . . . with nothing visible inside. It gets very difficult."
She went back and forth into the pit to "bless and say a prayer for the fallen and for those who have found them," she wrote. "I am grateful I can work in this war zone and be a witness to the heroism I see every single day."
She added, "But when I get home, I do have a hard time. What I've seen has been challenging, but what will stay with me forever is the smell. It is like nothing I have ever experienced in my life."
Ellen Borakove, a city medical examiner's spokeswoman, said clergy of many faiths flocked to temporary morgues around Ground Zero and to the main morgue next to Bellevue. "Spiritual people were always allowed to bless any human remains we had. They were blessing remains as they were found at Ground Zero as well," Borakove said.
Mahoney wrote her friend, "I think I have changed inside - not bitter or angry or anything like that, just more centered and having a better understanding of my ministry and that I am committed to whatever God calls me to do."
Months later, feeling ill and distraught, she was told by a counselor that "it was a good time to start taking care of myself," she said. Mahoney left Ground Zero on Feb. 11, 2002. But she found little sympathy or support back at the Manhattan convent, she told the Aiken Standard in a front-page story in February. She left the convent that July. Over the next two years, her health worsened. Mahoney quit jobs in an animal shelter, a store and an office. "I ended up sleeping in my car because I had nowhere else to go," she told the paper.
A friend accompanied Mahoney on a train trip to Manhattan about six months ago to register with the WTC Medical Monitoring Program at Mount Sinai Hospital. She collapsed while getting a lung test and was sent to the emergency room, Worby said.
Now that Mahoney says she is dying, she wants to make a difference. "She wants her death to have meaning, so this tragedy won't happen to other rescue and recovery workers in future disasters," Worby said. "I will not let her die in vain."
Additional reporting by Eliz abeth

Wolff and Marianne Garvey

susan.edelman@nypost.com

Stop with the POD stuff!

Stop with the POD stuff! Stop with the CGI No Plane Stuff..........STOP!!!!!!!
intheyearzero

why, will the mcmedia suddenly take up the 9/11 cause if we do?
what, are you embarrassed to be associated with pod people?
so have you determined why we saw a 767 on tv but the hole in wtc2 is smaller than a 767?
why, do you find the mere thought of inspecting the images of the only plane out of 4 disturbing?
what, do you know something about UA175 that is not apparent to us?
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Stop with the POD stuff!

Stop with the POD stuff! Stop with the CGI No Plane Stuff..........STOP!!!!!!!
intheyearzero

why, will the mcmedia suddenly take up the 9/11 cause if we do?
what, are you embarrassed to be associated with pod people?
so have you determined why we saw a 767 on tv but the hole in wtc2 is smaller than a 767?
why, do you find the mere thought of inspecting the images of the only plane out of 4 disturbing?
what, do you know something about UA175 that is not apparent to us?
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james ha | Homepage | 08.15.06 - 3:56 am | #

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These are the most irrelevant elements of 9/11. These claims are difficult to prove and substantiate. Focusing on them will only hurt the movement. Maybe that is your intention? I have come to the conclusion that individuals who focus on the "pods" and "CGI Planes" only wish to divert attention from the most damning and obvious inconsistencies that are contained the the "official" story of 9/11.

These "pods" and "CGI planes" should be at the very bottom of your list.

I totally agree re: stopping

I totally agree re: stopping with the pod stuff, etc.

Is our task not difficult enough without diluting the main issues?

Is it not more effective to focus upon the strongest evidence available when attempting to wake people up?

Awesome job. Enuff said.

Awesome job. Enuff said.

I find that brave nun's

I find that brave nun's above story to be extremely inspirational! She is in direct contrast to all the neocon cowards.

I have come to the

I have come to the conclusion that individuals who focus on the "pods" and "CGI Planes" only wish to divert attention from the most damning and obvious inconsistencies that are contained the the "official" story of 9/11.

wow that is your conclusion? awesome job! how inconsiderate of me to consider the images of UA175 that we were shown on TV to be the most damning and obvious of inconsistencies. by the way, has anyone uncovered any images of 9/11 boeing 767 or 757 other than ua175? no? why not? the official story of 9/11 relies on the existence of 4 highjacked boeings yet there don't seem to be any other than the images of ua175 which have been shown to be false -

i'll make you guys a deal:
if you can explain to my satisfaction how/why the giant aluminum tail section of ua175 disappeared without a trace into the side of wtc2 without any of it breaking off yet there was no corresponding hole in wtc2 where the aluminum tail section disappeared, then and only then will i stop with the no-planes spiel.
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funny thing about the no

funny thing about the no planers, they seem to think this is the most important piece of evidence to promote the theory that 9/11 was an inside job, despite much more reliable evidence that would be more likely to sway the average american, and still the no planers lead with CGI and scream it from the rooftops, rarely talking about any of the other evidence that proves inside job.funny.
Chris | Homepage | 08.15.06 - 10:23 am | #
i guess you dont see my point?

i repeat: evidence that

i repeat: evidence that would be more likely to sway the average american

chris, you want to discuss

chris,
you want to discuss all the any of the other evidence that proves inside job here on this forum? oh well why don't you tell me what would be acceptable to mention here on this forum?
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take your pick, anything, as

take your pick, anything, as long as its not "no planes hit the towers" i think it all can only help.

I have come to the

I have come to the conclusion that individuals who focus on the "pods" and "CGI Planes" only wish to divert attention from the most damning and obvious inconsistencies that are contained the the "official" story of 9/11.

wow that is your conclusion? awesome job! how inconsiderate of me to consider the images of UA175 that we were shown on TV to be the most damning and obvious of inconsistencies. by the way, has anyone uncovered any images of 9/11 boeing 767 or 757 other than ua175? no? why not? the official story of 9/11 relies on the existence of 4 highjacked boeings yet there don't seem to be any other than the images of ua175 which have been shown to be false -

i'll make you guys a deal:
if you can explain to my satisfaction how/why the giant aluminum tail section of ua175 disappeared without a trace into the side of wtc2 without any of it breaking off yet there was no corresponding hole in wtc2 where the aluminum tail section disappeared, then and only then will i stop with the no-planes spiel.
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james ha | Homepage | 08.15.06 - 11:36 am | #

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You are a lost cause. Time to go pick up your check from your Neocon handlers.......