Loose Change Crew Releases Flyer and New Info on NYC 5th Anniversary Events

Events Schedule and Flyer

9/11/06: FIVE YEARS OF LIES, FOUR DAYS OF TRUTH/THE WEEKEND TRUTH WILL CHANGE THE WORLD

Friday, Sept.8th, St. Marks

Welcome/Introduction/Actions
7:00 – 7:30

Al Fonz of 9/11 Vets For Truth: 9/11 As Pretext For Iraq Invasion
7:30 – 8:00

Korey Rowe veteran of the Iraq and Afganistan War.
8:00 – 8:45

Ralph Schoenman: 9/11 and the Attack on Lebanon
8:45 – 10:00

Saturday, Sept.9th, Community Church

9/11 Truth Movement hits the Streets, flyering and outreach throughout New York City starting at Union Square by the Washington statue.
11:00am

Jim Marrs, Tom Foti, Chris Emery, Howie Hawkins
3:00 – 5:30 pm

Barry Zwicker
7:00 – 8:00

First responders
8:00 – 9:00

9/11 Victims Family Members
9:00 – 9:30

Sunday Sept. 10th, Cooper Union Hall

9/11 Truth Breakthrough Press Conference to feature all major speakers
11:30 – 12:15

9/11 Truth Breakthrough Rally!

Judy Wood, Jim Fetzer, Jesse Richard, Ralph Schoenman, Jim Marrs, Barry Zwicker, Ian Wood , Kevin Barrett, Faiz Kahn, Carl Person, Les Jamison.
1:00 – 5:00

Dinner Break
5:00 - 6:30

Introduction and Ground Zero Plan
6:30 – 7:00

Alex Jones – progress in the movement
7:00 – 7:30

Preview of LC Final Cut
7:30 – 9:30

Immortal Technique
9:30 – Night

Monday, Sept. 11th, St. Marks Church

Ground Zero Rally For Truth
9/11 Truth Convergence and Stragedy Session for 2007
Some can March back to St. Marks Church, or take the subway
8:00 am

9/11 Truth Convergence - food, music and speaker, networking...open mike, video area, info etc.
4:30

St. Marks Church
2nd Ave 10th Street
NY, NY 10003

Take the 6 train to Astor Place
or R train to 8th Street

Community Church
40 east 35th street by Park Ave.
NY, NY 10016

Take the 6 train to 33rd street
Copper Union
3rd Avenue, 7th street.
NY, NY 10003

Take the 6 train to Astor place
or R train to 8th street

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I would like to insert a personal aside here. We at Louder Than Words will not tolerate or allow ourselves to be associated with violence or disruptive behavior. We are there to rally together under a common cause, while maintaining respect and dignity for the victims' family members and friends. We are not there to shout, or to start fights. We are simply there to attend, with 10,000 DVDs to hand out (they're being printed up as I type this) to anyone interested in the information.

That's the best way I can sum things up. Bring a camera. Film everything. See you all there.

my bad guys, i updated the

my bad guys, i updated the blog post. new link:
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2006/09/events-schedule-and-flyer.html

i updated the link in the

i updated the link in the article, thanks.

9/11 an "inside job?"

So, you think Hani Hanjour

So, you think Hani Hanjour flew that 757?

Definitely. All evidence

Definitely. All evidence points to it.

Hanjour could not have flown AA77 into the Pentagon.

Inept pilots like Hajour & pals could not have flown 250 miles from Kentuckey to DC, do amazing acrobatics, nor hit the tiny renovated wedge of the Pentagon. Hanjour and the others were patsies, not pilots.

Also, could you show us some photos of Hajour's body & those of the other "hijackers" being recovered? I'll even settle for some burned plane seats and luggage.

Your suppositions turned out

Your suppositions turned out to be baseless long ago. Hanjour was capable but inexperienced; there were no acrobatics whatsoever and he hit the point directly in front of him after he made the turn to lose altitude. You need to do better research on the facts as it has been shown conclusivley that none of his flying was outside the capabilities of an inexperienced pilot.

In any case it is irrefutable that Hanjour was the pilot of AA 77.

Photos of bodies are completely irrelevant. No one needs them since all the other evidence is overwhelming that AA77 was hijacked and flown into the Pentagon.

Sites like this need to spend more time researching the actual truth rather than make claims without foundation.

Theories They CAN'T Debunk

No matter how many "9/11 debunkers" I've emailed, NONE of them care to address Pakistani Intelligence funding the hijackers, controlling the hijackers and al Qaeda(and killing Daniel Pearl for trying to expose it), Able Danger, the Saudi Visa Express backroom deal, Randy Glass' testimony, FBI agent and worker testimony proving foreknowlege and criminal activity,
insider trading that CANNOT be innocently explained including what was found on recovered hardrives, the reason why the 11 and 175 blackboxes were never released, the shredding of the FAA tapes, the 9/11 panel revelations about being lied to,
the Vanity Fair NORAD tapes revealing false interject blips and war games, etc.

These folks want to chalk it all up as "incompetence", when THEY THEMSELVES cannot explain all the facts that point toward amassive coverup and facts that dispute mere incompetence. Like the fact noone was fired or repremanded, or the fact Bush didnt even want an investigation.

But oh no, they are convinced they are right, and will twist everything as "debunking" to fit their incomeptence theory...most of us are just saying its not incompetence and there is many unanswered questions.

The problem with your claim

The problem with your claim is that none of your "facts", or whatever you want to call them, point to anything but suppositions you want to make. You require actual evidence.

Airliners swapped for drones nullifies your theory.

Sorry, but if the passenger airliners were swapped for drones (or were never even real flights to begin with) as per "Operation Northwoods" you theory is moot.

Good Job

Please keep this in mind,,,,

Boston, Gates 26 and 32 for one aircraft.

Flight 77 and 93 was same flight.

Last but not least. Senator John McCain was allowed to research the 767 AF scandal to an isolated room, whereas he could only take notes, with one assistant. Very secretive and manipulated by the White House. Is it because we have a couple missing jets?????

Plus I noticed you never covered IFF in the document. Four jets and yet not one 7500 hijacking code, where as if you listen to AA Betty Ongs' audio. The government and all that implies is BS!

debunking the "debunking".... Or, Shut The Fuck Up.

In the conclusion the author leaves one to believe that it would have been TOO difficult to thwart the original crew because they could always just disconnect the "robo-controls", "unless you completely redesigned the plane."

Not so, because this paper makes a conclusion before considering the most simple. The simple nullification of consciousness aboard the plane is all one has to do to prevent disconnect of "robo-jet". I need look no further than flight-deck oxygen, cabin emergency oxygen, and pressure hull out-flow check-valve.

No need to theorize knife wielding crazies, poison gas, or "let's roll" hero stories.

Beware of COINTELPRO!

Dylan said:

"I would like to insert a personal aside here. We at Louder Than Words will not tolerate or allow ourselves to be associated with violence or disruptive behavior. We are there to rally together under a common cause, while maintaining respect and dignity for the victims' family members and friends. We are not there to shout, or to start fights. We are simply there to attend, with 10,000 DVDs to hand out (they're being printed up as I type this) to anyone interested in the information.
That's the best way I can sum things up. Bring a camera. Film everything. See you all there.
posted by dylan avery at 8:46 AM"

I'm very concerned that agent provocateurs who, pretending to be truthers, may cause all sorts of disruptions, up to & including violence do discredit us!

P.S. New site looks great!

Just a thought on the new

Just a thought on the new site design. It seems a bit top heavy with banners and links to old news. Any way to move some of those things to the side? I would say the banner, the recent headlines, etc. take up about 3/4 of my browser view.

Just a thought. Keep up the good work.

we went with the asumption

we went with the asumption that all users would be using at least 800x600, and built it around the fact that our average user is at least 1024x768..

we might be able to create a new theme in the future specifically for low resolution users.. i will put it in the 'wants' section on my todo list.

please post any further suggestions to the Welcome to the New 911Blogger.com v2.0! thread.

Three Columns?

When I go to www.911blogger.com, I'm only seeing 2 columns. The stuff on the left, and the story in the middle, and it seems as if a BLOCKQUOTE is not closed somewhere?

Try switching your text or font size to a smaller one.

I see all 3 columns on my very ordinary computer here. Try switching your text or font size on your web browser under the "view" tab.

Colmes interviewing Alex Jones / daily open thread?

I just listened to Alex Jones in Colmes' radio program. It was intriguing how Colmes plugged Alex's sites and the Terrorstorm movie. He also asked many of the callers to let Alex finish, rather than ask Alex to let the callers finish. :-) I'm perplexed. Please thank Colmes for allowing Jones to have his say, and remember to talk to him about WTC 7. :-)

What was the thing about the army nervegassing U.S. and British soldiers and then dissecting their bodies that Alex mentioned? Anyone have links to that?

One suggestion. Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a daily open thread so that posters didn't need to post off-topic messages, as I'm doing here?

either that or you can

either that or you can create your own blog entry if you register.. we will start doing open threads more often.

Colmes was ok, still room for improvement.

Yeah, Colmes was one of the fairer interviewers, but he still acted too incredulous each time Alex made a point. I didn’t hear Colmes pretend to doubt Kean’s nonsense when Kean was on his show.

I think clever people like Colmes know the truth, but they won’t admit to it until they are absolutely forced to.

I didn't get the impression

I didn't get the impression of any extreme incredulity. It was also nice that he replayed the "phone connection problem" with Kean. :-)

Also, he didn't say "I don't believe you" or "You are nuts, Alex" but "I am agnostic", which is probably as far as he could have gone anyway.

Alex called him "my friend". Does that mean something?

I'll Be There...

Wouldn't miss it.

I'm wondering if the term "anniversary" is really appropriate to use for such a disgusting crime, but right now I can't think of any other word to replace it with.

Why does that graphic poster

Why does that graphic poster have to show revolutionary fists in the air? That's a good way to turn off the general population and give ammunition to the Right that "9/11 Truthers" are nothing but pinko-commie revolutionaries.

AND NO FEMALES?

We must be the change we wish to see in the world. M Gandhi

NO FEMALES; AND ONLY CAUCASIANS!

LOOSE CHANGE's graphic for 9.11.06 with no females and (apparently) only Caucasians is an outrage. And I've seen only one comment on this blog.

true, NO FEMALES; AND ONLY CAUCASIANS!

It is good to bring such things to people;s attention, in a good manner. We are all learning and growing.
Also tghey are a few people, anyine with that good point, and the energy and interest can also make fliers and distribute them in their community...

Immortal Technique is not

Immortal Technique is not white. hes in the picture. your overreacting.

Ralph Schoenman??? WTF!!!

why in the hell is that idiot ralph schoenman speaking? What a blabbering slobbermouth. Listening to him is like listening to a celine dion trapped in a phone booth screaming for her lover to rescue her in the form of an Irish jig...

in other words... ditch that bozo... God i can't stand ralph schoenman. hes a someone who can spew lots of words without much in the line of thoughtful insight.

Virtual Sit In

Hello. I'm in the process of working on a virtual sit in for the anniversary. I'd love your input. particularly which sites to target. please email me at al_uh_looyah [@] yahoo.com and i'll show you some drafts and we'll talk story.
thnks.

a virtual sit in at all the

a virtual sit in at all the fake msm sites on 911 would be a good idea---

all the people that cant go to nyc

such as?

such as?

well i was thinking about

well i was thinking about this...

we could totally overrun all the fake national msm boards

we could find out where the highest traffic is on the web and totally screw that up(or just post on their sites in massive numbers

we could encourage people with "hacker mentality" to release a whole bunch of bots on the internet with 911hoax information

911truth assaults on john stewart and steven colbert messageboards(in huge numbers)

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now maybe we could just hit all the local media in nyc there are many options

I'M FREAKING PISSED AND I WANNA GO TO NYC!!!
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ALSO THEY SHOULD NAIL WTC 7 WITH FLYERS AND HAVE A SIT IN

PARTY ON FELLOW TRAVELERS!!

time to mix it up with the locals and help them RISE ABOVE!!!

THE WINDS OF CHANGE ARE UPON US!!

fuck all yall

that was me

that was me

Schoenman's by far my

Schoenman's by far my favorite truther. Puts the rest to shame.

"Schoenman's by far my

"Schoenman's by far my favorite truther. Puts the rest to shame"

oh give me a break. Ralph Schoenman makes me sick. you can't have a rational discussion with that guy. i remember when he was alex jones. He just kept talking and talking and wouldn't shut up. He just wants to talk over the next guy. he keeps spewing this outdated anti-capitalist crap. he's a communist retard. i can't and won't listen to that guy. He needs to relax and lighten up. capitalism is the best system and gives each person the most freedom. period. The nwo isn't capitalist. It's a preppy, arrogant, fascist, tyranical criminal organization that has appointed itself the controllers of the human race without our consent.

Interesting comment made by Aaron Russo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2947267143366647266&hl=en

Go to min 16.20 into the google video and listen.

Aaron Russo Comments

Thanks for posting the Aaron Russo Unplugged video. It seems Russo is a truther. He mentions that WTC7 was brought down by controlled demolition. This gut is sharp as a tack and a real straight-shooter. He also believes, as I do, that JFK was murdered because Kennedy wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve. He says that if we want our country back we must get rid of the Federal Reserve. I agree. This is why MIHOP is so important. It is the only way we can get these thugs completely out of power. LIHOP just doesn't cut it. It seems we may have to shut down the country to achieve our goal. If that be true, so be it.

I'm hoping I'll get to see

I'm hoping I'll get to see Russo's documentary eventually (America: Freedom to Fascism). There are interviews with Michael Ruppert and Catherine Austin Fitts -- so, yeah, Russo's probably a truther, especially since his movie is apparently really pushing hard at revealing the lies behind the banking and tax systems in the U.S.

Russo is definitely a 9/11 Truther

As an earlier poster pointed out, Russo has stated that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition. I saw his "Freedom to Fascism" movie. It was an eye opener to say the least. Yes, the Federal Reserve needs to be shut down. But that is not going to happen until the powers that be in our government (Admin. and White House) are "scared straight" into working for the American people and not the corporations that basically now have control of our country. To get this to happen a "New Pearl Harbor" of truth needs to occur in this country, starting with a new independent investigation of 9/11.

The Federal Reserve has profited from 9/11

"debunkers" like to claim that the US gov't has lost 100's of billions over the "war on terror" and that there was no internal profit modivation.

These people don't understand that this is a debt based economy and every dollar we spend in debt is profit to the private banks that run the federal reserve.

Aaron Russo is a patriot and a hero. Get everyone you know to see his movie when it comes out.

I fear that we will not

I fear that we will not succeed in bringing the perps to justice

u2r2h

Frank Rich colum in NYT

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=61477

Five Years After 9/11, Fear Finally Strikes Out
By FRANK RICH
Published: August 20, 2006

"genuine nightmares"? Whatever does he mean...?

I believe he means the death

I believe he means the death toll in Iraq, and perhaps events that may yet transpire as a result of the occupation.

His premise seems to be that Iraq has superseded "terrorism" as the public's main concern, and no matter how much Bush prods with these terror alerts his approval numbers aren't budging.

Fear?

u2r2h:

I do not share your fear. If you want to be afraid of something, please consider what task remains before us as the truth will surly out, with or with out your help.

Aslo, I've expanded upon your response of my admitedly off-topic material under "Achtung! Tarpley...". Please reconsider what is worthy of fear. The only thing I give genuine worry to, is the knee-jerk response from a waking giant, or a cornered sick animal.

Fear?

...the truth will surely out...

Anyone see this?

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

I post here occasionally, don't know if anyone stumbled upon this.

A long time ago, DeNj. Some

A long time ago, DeNj. Some of the criticisms are legitimate. Most are not. The Final Cut of Loose Change promises to be rid of the sloppier elements of v1 and v2.

Sorry kids, embarrassing flyer!

Six white guys who think they are soooo cool, promoting themselves* as "the revolution" in matching t-shirts. Didn't anyone think before designing this?!

(* and their badly researched music video)

yeah, i'm not really that

yeah, i'm not really that stoaked about the flyer either. this isn't about individuals in the truth movement its about the masses. don't personalize the movement by putting up faces of various activists, put up masses of people. lets get away from the cult of personality and the hero worship, please!!!!

The Flyer

Sorry everyone doesn't like the flyer. I knew Luke, Immortal Technique and Alex were going to be there. Also they have done an incredible amount of work in this movement, and so have we. Thats why there are silouettes (women in there too). Show up and stop talking jive, or heres an idea make your own flyer.

See all you serious peeps there!!!!!

take criticism much, Bermas?

So your response to criticisms that you put your faces, tshirts, and dumb fist-in-the-air gesture on the flyer, was "Too bad, you're probably not "serious" anyway, make your own"... of those responses, only the last has any validity.

If you personalize the 9/11 Truth Movement, expect resistance. Because you put your face on there, when criticism comes that your face shouldn't be on there, your ego gets hurt. Your ego wouldn't get so hurt if you left your faces off of there. In the words of Tina Turner, "We don't need another hero".

Correction

Apologies, didn't recognize Immortal Technique. So that makes five white guys and one great rapper.

This is a pathetic response, since hundreds of people have been making their own flyers and doing work, and that's why there's a movement for you guys to come strike a bunch of cool, macho poses within.

Everyone works, good and bad. Work does not automatically represent quality or truth. To defend something because it was "work" is to deny that its content matters. To respond to all criticism with "well make your own" pretends that there's something untouchable or eternal about you.

This flyer is identical to a band promotion. "Join the Pepsi Generation." It has nothing to do with the ostensible movement. It's about you, you, you. Join my club, be cool. Make a fashion decision (this part the media loves). A political decision becomes a fashion decision. This has been the problem with your LC diversion of the movement, and your only excuse for it is that you are blind to it.

Don't take it so badly. You're no worse than the rest of our consumerist compatriots.

ridiculous flyer

I agree. The flyer is laughable. Self-indulgent. If you guys are superheroes, just fly over to Washington and take Bush and Cheney out with your superpowers.

Yeah, honestly I'm not

Yeah, honestly I'm not trying to be negative, just helpful, the flyer is exactly the wrong angle to take with these things and a lot of the reason for criticism of the truth movement. This is a serious event, perhaps one of the most critical of all. I really disagree with this hip/edgy tone that Loose Change takes and likewise the flyer. There are better ways to express gravity of situations. That's why Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime is the film I recommend people watch.

most convincing videos

Agree. Lately I have been recommending both Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime and David Ray Griffin's Univ. of Wisconsin talk. I am very hopeful for 9/11 Press for Truth.

I once tried to introduce a couple friends to 9/11 Truth by using Loose Change, and it was a total flop. They compared it to The X Files. Though, I guess a whole lot of people turn on to it. So all things considered, it seems to be doing more good than harm.

Loose Change is not X Files!

No offense, but your friends must not have been the sharpest tools in the shed to have compered Loose Change to the X Files.

backwards

I think you've got that backwards. Loose Change is obviously very effective as a lowest common denominator. (Quote: "According to Wikipedia . . .")

David Ray Griffin at Univ. of Wisconsin lacks the catchy soundtrack, but it's excellent for people with attention span beyond flee-level.

EBGS lacks all physical evidence/anomalies smoking guns.

EBGS would be a good intro to 9/11 except for the fatal error in that it lacks all physical evidence/anomalies smoking guns.

For example, why do you make a 9/11 truth video without mentioning or showing a clip of WTC-7? Holding back perhaps?

EBGS is good for intermediate & advanced truthers.

Well, that's where its strength lies

EGBS is strong precisely because it leaves out the "physical evidence smoking guns," (of which only demolitions is even worthy of consideration, and to which our once-rich case has sadly been reduced). It focuses on making the scenario first seem possible to people who have not considered it, and therefore need political context and history to understand why there would be a motive, means and opportunity. To people who say, why would they do that? When people get turned on, they will discover for themselves how much stuff there is suggesting demolitions (most of which is not as definitive as people here for the most part imagine). Demolitions is relatively solid, but it's also a magnet for all manner of total nonsense and embarrassing junk science, and to the average newbie seems absolutely outlandish. Reel them in first. EGBS is perfectly made to initiate Middle America. LC2 strikes a lot of cool poses and has "youth appeal," i.e., empty effects in the way of a Pepsi commercial. Critical thinkers can spot the holes in the logic immediately, and they spot the crude manipulative means, and it turns them off. It doesn't matter at that point what percentage of LC2 is actually true (much of the official story is also true, since disinformation always functions by employing building blocks of truth). Of course, this makes LC2 safe for coverage in the mass media - not because it's part of a media plot to promote LC2, but because LC2 is so obviously spectacular and harmless - sort of like the latest movie about angels or helpful dead friends, or whatever else Americans are believing in this month.

In a nutshell, LC2 is like the networks; EGBS is like HBO.

Well, that's where its strength lies

EGBS is strong precisely because it leaves out the "physical evidence smoking guns," (of which only demolitions is even worthy of consideration, and to which our once-rich case has sadly been reduced). It focuses on making the scenario first seem possible to people who have not considered it, and therefore need political context and history to understand why there would be a motive, means and opportunity. To people who say, why would they do that? When people get turned on, they will discover for themselves how much stuff there is suggesting demolitions (most of which is not as definitive as people here for the most part imagine). Demolitions is relatively solid, but it's also a magnet for all manner of total nonsense and embarrassing junk science, and to the average newbie seems absolutely outlandish. Reel them in first. EGBS is perfectly made to initiate Middle America. LC2 strikes a lot of cool poses and has "youth appeal," i.e., empty effects in the way of a Pepsi commercial. Critical thinkers can spot the holes in the logic immediately, and they spot the crude manipulative means, and it turns them off. It doesn't matter at that point what percentage of LC2 is actually true (much of the official story is also true, since disinformation always functions by employing building blocks of truth). Of course, this makes LC2 safe for coverage in the mass media - not because it's part of a media plot to promote LC2, but because LC2 is so obviously spectacular and harmless - sort of like the latest movie about angels or helpful dead friends, or whatever else Americans are believing in this month.

In a nutshell, LC2 is like the networks; EGBS is like HBO.

Benevolent Manipulations?

Must add that I too thought the mistakes "left in" (just too obvious) did far more disservice than helping people feel motivated to flush LC out and the whole truth while doing a personal investigation. If you know the difference between a B-52, a B-25 and a 767..... DO NOT play around with that stuff. If you didn't know and now have learned, DO NOT leave such mistakes imbedded within a truth-seeking "documentary". These are the same repugnant means employed by agents of destruction.

Dear Loose Change Gang: Please strip your work as clean as possible from any such manipulations..... you are far afield of such methods. At this point, you can no longer clam innocents.

silhouettes

The women of the world thank you for that!

I think its important to

I think its important to change the collapse time statement, from it collapsed in 10 seconds to 15 or 16 seconds. the towers took longer than 10 seconds to come down. just a suggestion.

15 seconds

I think "in 15 seconds" is accurate enough. WTC 7 took less than 7 seconds.

Criticisms...

Speaking for myself, it won't hurt my feelings if you don't use our flyer. We just wanted something to put up on the site along with the schedule.

It's not at all about egomania. It's just something Bermas whipped up in his spare time. I'm all for the rally to be as decentralized as possible, and I don't believe we have all the answers, nor are we leaders by any means. If you couldn't tell, the fist in the air is a post Bermas constantly uses. It's not about assembling to take down the institution, it's about exercizing our right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I'm sorry if that's how you interpret the flyer, but again, you're more than welcome to not use it, or even look at it.

Not trying to be a dick, just clearing things up.

Compared to new 911blogger comments page

Your flyer looks great!

seriously tho, this blog has gotten sucky quick. change the comments back to haloscan, Its almost impossible to read this skinny shit.

skinny shit? can you be a

skinny shit? can you be a bit more descriptive? maybe a screenshot?

my guess is that you are running a low resolution like 640x480 or 800x600, let me know.. you can find your screen resolution here: Start > Control Panel > Display > Settings > Screen Resolution

Truth

One comment says you need actual evidence to support this effort. It's mostly people who won't bother to watch videos like Loose Change or 9/11 IN PLANE SITE. If they take the time to watch them, they'll want answers as well. Watch the videos before you comment on anything. Btw, how can I get a copy of the dvd? This is a geat thing your doing! Greatest of support from Texas! Hasta luego....

Where are the women figures in the flier?

Where are the women figures in the flier?