Bush Denies Iraq Ties to 9/11 - Now

Bush Now Says What He Wouldn’t Say Before War: Iraq Had ‘Nothing’ To Do With 9/11 - thinkprogress.org

President Bush was in the midst of explaining how the attacks of 9/11 inspired his “freedom agenda” and the attacks on Iraq until a reporter, Ken Herman of Cox News, interrupted to ask what Iraq had to do with 9/11. “Nothing,” Bush defiantly answered. Watch it.
As ThinkProgress has repeatedly documented, Vice President Cheney cited “evidence” cooked up by Douglas Feith and others to claim it was “pretty well confirmed” that Iraq had contacts with 9/11 hijackers.

More generally, in the lead-up to the war in Iraq, the administration encouraged the false impression that Saddam had a role in 9/11. Bush never stated then, as he does now, that Iraq had “nothing” to do with 9/11. Only after the Iraq war began did Bush candidly acknowledge that Iraq was not operationally linked to 9/11.

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BUSH: The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.

QUESTION: What did Iraq have to do with it?

BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?

QUESTION: The attack on the World Trade Center.

BUSH: Nothing. Except it’s part of — and nobody has suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a — Iraq — the lesson of September 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken. Nobody’s ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.

Watch out, Bush & Co. are on the offensive, watch them crash and burn. Be sure to notice the looking down that Bush is prone to do when lying out of his ass.

Thanks Scott for the video link!

That's Funny...

Notice he said, "I never said he ordered the attacks". He said a lot of other things. I wish I had a list, but I don't. Just imagine a paragraph that looked like this...

blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah Saddam Hussein blah blah blah Iraq blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah Saddam Hussein blah blah blah Iraq blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah Saddam Hussein blah blah blah Iraq blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah Saddam Hussein blah blah blah Iraq blah blah blah 9/11 blah blah blah 9/11, Saddam Hussein, and Iraq.

85% Of Troops In Iraq Think Saddam Was Involved In 9/11, 77% Think Supported Al-Qaeda


Why did I have to make this?

quote:Saddam Hussein, and

quote:Saddam Hussein, and Iraq.

85% Of Troops In Iraq Think Saddam Was Involved In 9/11, 77% Think Supported Al-Qaeda


Why did I have to make this?

Well according to your quoted statistics, that should have a profound effect on public opinion. Especially leading up to the 5th Anniversary of the coup.

Mostly negative on the Bush Administration, with all those Anti-War protesters in DC...


Thx for that list of news

Thx for that list of news articles, Jon.

You're Welcome

Partridge added to it as well.


that troop poll makes me ill. I don't really blame them either. I can't even imagine doing what their doing over there and know that it's all bull shit. The cognitive dissonance would be unbearable.

here was my bit on it from

here was my bit on it from 6/19/2005:
9/11 Justified Iraq through Cognitive Association

smoking foolz like it ain't no thang hommie

It’s not surprising to hear those kinds of figures regarding what the troops believe in terms of the mission, it’s purpose and raison d'être. Most the troops on the ground get severe brainwashing from their masters, so it's not surprising to hear what their personal views are.

I also heard on Alex Jones radio show today (which you can still hear at this link as it's rebroadcast for 24 hours continuously: http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls ) that the US Army is FULL of gang members, most still with strong loyalties to those street gangs. Some (very few) have actually been investigated, dismissed and disciplined as a consequence. Not that being a gang member would necessarily mean you were going to be a bad soldier - but it takes a certain mentality to join a street gang, get the tattoos and start 'banging'. That seems to be what the modern day US army is looking for; hard core street thugs with a penchant for extreme violence and just 'smoking foolz like it ain't no thang hommie'.

"From a drop of water, a logician could infer the possibility of an Atlantic or a Niagra without having seen or heard of one or the other. So it is that my name is Sherlock Holmes, it is my business to know what other people don't know"

Notice how this makes asses of you?

It's always fun to watch you 9/11 conspiracy dorks make fun of your own conspiracy theories!

They aint therories when you can prove them.

Metal frame buildings don't turn into powder from burning jet fuel. Shill

Yet another example

of how much a tool George W. Bush is. I should send that video to all of my neo-con friends that disagree with the President's new statement. lol

I forgot...

It gets even better...

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i was actually surprised to

i was actually surprised to the various MSM outlets pick up on this today. even that troll Chris Matthews said "the next time somebody gets to ask Cheney a question, they need to ask him if he still thinks Iraq had something to do with 9/11, because as far as i know he still does".

Jon beat me to it. Why does

Jon beat me to it. Why does 85 percent of the US soldiers believe in Iraq-9/11 link? The propaganda over there must be thick as hell.

well, for starters, the

well, for starters, the soldiers over there get only MSM and rightwing talk. they get no leftist points of view AT ALL. Donald Rumsfeld was actually questioned about this last year by a few Democratic congressmen, and he said he would get back to them on it. sort of like "who headed and set up the wargames on 9/11?". Rummy still hasnt gotten back to us on either......

Look who's talking!

This from the bubbas who describe themselves as speaking of the 9/11 "Truth" movement!

God, how bad you liars are keeping your 9/11 conspiracy fantasises straight.

How about a little help pulling those Jackboots out of your lying fascist mouths?

From a 'BUBBA'

Then CHEW ON THIS! Throw out everything we know about the towers, WTC7, thermate, Flight 93, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc!
The glaring thing is that Dubya and Co. ALLOWED the attack to happen by failing to shoot down the planes! That detail alone plus LYING about if,where,and when the fighter pilots were scrambled should have placed Bushi Boi and The V.P. that couldn't shoot straight right out on their asses! We were left UNPROTECTED at the very least. And he will allow it to happen again if he is not stopped!

Someone Requested

That I "share my knowledge" regarding Pakistan.

Here you go.

Apocalypse Tomorrow:

Apocalypse Tomorrow: Neo-Cons Hype Y2K-Style Fearmongering
August 22nd said to be 'day of reckoning' for Ahmadinejad

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 21 2006

Following a month or more of hysterical fearmongering from Neo-Con cells and their evangelist sympathizers, tomorrow, August 22nd, is being hyped by some as the potential 'end of the world' doomsday in which a massive Iranian attack will result in mushroom clouds over Israeli and US cities.

Quite how Madman Mahmoud is going to engineer the apocalypse when the CIA's own investigation said he was ten years away from the bomb is never explained by the festering alarmists.


New News.com article (OT)

is this worth watching tonight

is this worth watching tonight

On Native Soil Special Edition DVD in stores August 22

Premieres Monday, August 21 at 10pm E/P
Encores Sunday, August 27 at 2pm & Sunday, September 10 at 12pm

Narrated by Academy Award® winners Kevin Costner and Hilary Swank, "On Native Soil" thoughtfully details the personal stories of tragedy and triumph that led to the formation of the 9/11 Commission and the publication of the Commission's landmark report. From miraculous individual feats of survival to the final recommendations to make America safer, this moving documentary features never-before-seen interviews from families directly touched by the tragedy and those on the commission, including Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman, former top-level FBI and CIA counterterrorism officials, and many others. A Jeff Hays Films Production. Produced by Linda Ellman and Jeff Hays. Directed by Linda Ellman and Co-Executive Producer Alan Winters. TV-14

Watch Spike Lee's Katrina Doc instead

The documentary on Katrina directed by Spike Lee airs tonight on HBO. Part II airs tomorrow.

More bullshit is my

More bullshit is my guess....

When the Levees Broke

Every American should see this documentary.

Bastard's Motive


Great motive editorial on a mainstream financial site.


Thanks Ken
For having a little fuzz on them gonads

New Zogby Poll

Dont bet on this! Bush or

Dont bet on this! Bush or spokesman Tony Snow will correct this utterance of Dubya in no time. The official line goes like this, and it _does_ have some sense, _if_ 9/11 was not a lie:
- 9/11 revealed a new breed of unprecedentedly dangerous terrorists

- out of revenge and to crush the new breed, Bush launched the War On Terrorism, an unrestricted war against all the "Axis of Evil" 'bad guys' that oppose U.S. influence around the globe (headlines of Dec.2001 read "we're striking back")

- Afghanistan was the first campaign, necessary to get Bin Laden after the Taliban refused to extradite him or forgot where he was

- Iraq was just another campaign of the W.O.T., as *proven* by the 24h terrorist suicide-bombings, the 'insurgency', "we fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here"

- the other "Axis Of Evil" nations will be conquered in the coming campaigns of the W.O.T., the neocons are unclear who will be first, but Iran is the most urgent one with its nuclear ambitions

- the future: this war (against terrorism) will "never end" (says Cheney) because there will always be 'terrorism'

- and the foundation stone of the new World War was... 9/11

Got an email back from

Got an email back from Parenti:

1) Cockburn and Chomsky were not silent on JFK they repeatedly made outspoken responses supporting the Warren Commission or dismissing the entire issue in the most uninformed way--that was why I critiqued them.

2) Having correctly perceived that the bulk of America _should_ be turned around on 9/11, you incorrectly conclude that they will be. No, no more than with JFK, and the research done on JFK has been devastating, superior to any other officialdom conspiracy investigation. It even had a fine Oliver Stone movie (unlike the crummy one he did for 9/11).

3) I did write an endorsement blurb for Barry Zwicker's new book Towers of Deception. You might take a look at that before you start going on about how my silence is deafening.

Looks like Parenti is a truther, and doesn't have any problem admitting the 911 story is a fraud. However, he doesn't see it as worthwhile to devote his energies to the subject, which seems to be a common refrain. Still, I think he should be invited to the next 911 conference; it'd be nice to have some voices from the left.

I sent a letter back apologizing for the rush to judgement.

Anyone else get any emails back from "gatekeepers"? Please post them! either here or in the thread on the subject lower down.

anyone know who is the most

anyone know who is the most qualified civil/mechanical engeneer to support 9/11 truth or has written a paper on the subject?

"Homer Bush" Doh!!

What? Iraq had nothing to do with the attack on the trade center? OK,now that people are aware of the missing WMD's,the next question from that reporter should have been; So what threat did Iraq pose to the U.S.? or;Do you think the information you have regarding Iran is accurate,since the information regarding Iraq was wrong,considering that the U.S. has had 24/7 monitoring of Iraq since '91? Is it Me,or does Bush do this to be misleading with spin using the most minimal amount of information? or is it Karl Rove giving him the most minimal amount of information?

I just want to give out some sites for truthers to digest and articles to read. More stuff,I think these are a must read since there is more depth and realization to move our investigations in the right direction. There were so many leads after JFK's assasination(planted false leads,disinformation)that people were going around in circles instead of getting any closer to the truth.

PBS writes today, that "...General Hayden has been an enthusiastic supporter of the domestic surveillance program that is not operating under the law..."

What PBS does not tell is that this spy program was already developed years before 9/11, tolerated and approved by both Clinton and Bush:

NSA director Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden testifies before the House intelligence committee. He says media reports that the NSA collects all electronic communications, spies on U.S. citizens and provides intelligence information to U.S. companies are "false or misleading."

...By the end of March 2001, according to another mainstream source, http://tinyurl.com/3fx2p (Washington Post), "the NSA began its first major push to involve the private sector in development of new SIGINT technology with an initiative it called Trailblazer"...

...In 2001, the Trailblazer program was developed under the order of the NRO, with sub contractor Booz Allen Hamilton and took partly place in the wing of the Pentagon, which was later officially hit by "Flight77"...

...Another "original NSA-plan" for "Trailblazer" was from 2 April 2001, then described as a "program to develop analytic capabilities to meet the challenge of rapidly evolving, modern telecommunications", prime contracts were awarded to Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. , Lockheed Martin Corporation and TRW..

Trailblazer was much more than just an advanced "spy and satellite program".
Already in September 2000, http://www.spacenewsfeed.co.uk/2000/3September2000.html
SpaceNewsFeed revealed, that Trailblazer is part of the "Trans Orbital Lunar GPS Experiment"...

http://www.irconnect.com/noc/press/pages/news_releases.mhtml?d=17831 June 14th, 2001, Logicon TASC, a Northrop Grumman company, has won a $75 million contract with the Pentagon...

But already two months earlier, in March 2001, Logicon TASC announced it had won another "five-year, $57 million contract" ..."with a U.S. intelligence agency to provide systems engineering and technical assistance (SETA) support for Trailblazer"...

...By now, it appears odd, that this high tech spy team around Booz, the NRO and the Pentagon, was not able to protect themselves on Sep11th. Neither an early evacuation was arranged or the "observation" of the "hijacked planes" had been recognised in time.

One of another Trailblazer partner, TRW and their subsidiary, Peter Peterson's Blackstone Group, had similar "problems".
In October 2000, they obtained the mortgage of WTC 7, a building which then turned into a military complex, with offices on the 23rd floor by the CIA and DoD.

However, the CIA wasn't able to protect the building on Sep11th...

...The NSA originally selected one of the Pentagon's top Private Military Contractrors, SAIC-led Digital Network Intelligence (DNI) Enterprise team that includes Northrop Grumman Corporation, Booz Allen Hamilton Inc., The Boeing Company , Computer Sciences Corporation (later owner of DynCorp) and SAIC wholly-owned subsidiary Telcordia Technologies to contribute to the modernization of the NSA's signals intelligence capabilities.

In October 2002, SAIC
officially announced the contract award from the National Security Agency (NSA) to be the provider of the technology demonstration platform (TDP) phase of the TRAILBLAZER program.
At that time, it wasn't well known for the public,
that the Program was already developed since 2 years...

...Meanwhile, the Trailblazer program developed into another experimental and mysterious level.
In May 2004, The MITRE Corporation, working together with the DMSO (Defense Modeling and Simulation Office),
describes it now as "simulations to support a specific example experiment...

...May 2004:
Apparently in the same month, one employee from Titan is in trouble, involved in one of the biggest "cover-up" scandals of Iraq so far: "TortureGate".
His name is officially "John Israel".

John's background is most obscure.
International Herald Tribune connects him also with another "Titan translator, a former taxi driver working at the U.S. detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba"

This cab driver was already "arrested on charges of espionage last year. "The translator with no security clearance who is implicated in the Abu Ghraib scandal, John Israel, worked for a Titan subcontractor, the company said.."


NY Times May 2003
Stephen A. Cambone, the first under secretary of defense for intelligenc, who appointed Maj. Gen. Keith Dayton of the Army has been appointed to head a new team, the Iraq Survey Group, that will look for chemical and biological weapon."

the new undersecretary will "exercise authority, direction, and control over the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA), the National Reconnaissance Organization (NRO), the National Security Agency (NSA), the Defense Security Service (DSS) and the DoD Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA)."

Cambone is a 1982 political science Ph.D. from Claremont Graduate School.
He was the staff director of the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States, also known as the "Rumsfeld Commission."

Besides being "a protege of Donald Rumsfeld," he also was one of the authors of the Project for the New American Century's Rebuilding America's Defenses (PNAC), the radical, Strangelovian document that formed the basis for the Bush administration's National Security Strategy.

On Page 60 of this PNAC report, in the section "Transforming U.S. Conventional Forces," which discusses "long-term plans for the U.S. military", it states:

"And advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

Hayden praised for his 'breathtaking' ideas
http://tinyurl.com/m7fnn (www.gainesville.com)
May 08. 2006

"...He won generally high marks at NSA despite Trailblazer, a massive technical modernization program that by all accounts spent billions and got meager results...

http://tinyurl.com/nphpx (nytimes.com)
May 8, 2006

"...he has acknowledged that the agency deserves some blame for the Sept. 11 and Iraq weapons failures. He also admitted to Congress last year the failings of his ambitious program to upgrade the N.S.A.'s technology, known as Trailblazer, which by all accounts has cost billions for meager results..."

The media tries to spin as if "Trailblazer" isn't part of the 'controversial warrantless surveillance program" but it actually is the other way round.

This warrantless surveillance program is part of Trailblazer!

May 9, 2006

"...a major advance in tracking the digital communications NSA was intercepting—but ended up in the virtual dustbin as a $1.2 billion flop, according to numerous published reports..."

The claim, that SAIC and NSA failed on "Trailblazer" is absurd.
They do not committ, that everything worked together on the highest advanced level. If committed, the "failure" on 9/11 would not make any sense any more.

System error

"...Meanwhile, Science Applications International Corp. (SAIC), the lead contractor on the project, did not provide enough people with the technical or management skills to produce such a sophisticated system, according to industry and NSA experts familiar with Trailblazer. And, they said, the company did not say no when the NSA made unrealistic demands..."

SAIC does not confirm, if this program ever failed:

"...SAIC spokesman Jared Adams declined to comment, saying, "We have been asked to defer all comment regarding the NSA Trailblazer contract to the NSA..."

And ALSO the NSA does NOT confirm ANY of these alleged "numerous published records" regarding an alleged failure of 'trailblazer', which was already
embedded in the "Trans Orbital Lunar GPS Experiment" and supported by Lockheed!!

The coverup continues:

"...NSA spokesman Don Weber said the agency would have no response to requests for comment..."

The myth of an alleged (9/11)-intelligence failure has to continue.
And that's the script also leftgatekeepers and "civil right activists" will continue to eat...

see also
Warrantless Eavesdropping Timeline

July 1993 (ed: the year of the first WTC attack)
The National Security Agency (NSA) issues United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18. Sections 4 through 7 of the directive include restrictions on surveillance of U.S. persons.

October 1994
ISA is amended to authorize secret physical searches of Americans' homes and offices.

February 1995
President Bill Clinton issues an executive order, Foreign Intelligence Physical Searches, implementing the new amendments to FISA.

April 1995
President Bill Clinton issues an executive order, "Classified National Security Information."

December 1999
The definition of "agent of a foreign power" is amended to include people working for a foreign government who intentionally enter the US with a fake ID

February 2000
The NSA delivers a report Legal Standards for the Intelligence Community in Conducting Electronic Surveillance to Congress.

April 2000 (ed: Trailblazer already developed and working since 1998!)
NSA Director Michael V. Hayden makes a statement before the House intelligence committee. He outlines regulatory and oversight mechanisms concerning electronic surveillance of U.S. persons, and responds to allegations that NSA provides intelligence information to U.S. companies.

March 2001 (ed: Cover-up begins)

The government confesses to the FISC another series of mistatement of material fact in FISA applications

August 6, 2001
The Attorney General augments the July 1995 minimization procedures for intelligence sharing.

After September 11

NSA Director Michael V. Hayden, without Presidential authorization and using Executive Order 12333 as "authority", begins an expansive surveillance program.

October 26

The USA PATRIOT Act amends FISA. The original standard that "the purpose" of the surveillance is to obtain foreign intelligence information is lowered to "a significant purpose".

Watch the money...

When you look at all this, it seem that the 2000-2008 Bush era was a big scam to take US peoples money from the government. The country was doing good, but now seem it got a huge deficit coming on, and few wars to come. Don't let him take the country against Iran, cause even if the democrat take the place after, you can't just go back on this.