New Movie Focused on William Rodriguez in the Works?

LAST MAN OUT OF WTC - nypost.com

The next 9/11 tale to hit the silver screen could be that of a World Trade Center janitor whose heroism helped save hundreds of lives.

William Rodriguez says he is in talks with actors Charlie Sheen and Esai Morales to turn his riveting story into a feature film - and a top writer-director, David Marconi, is already involved in the project.

In a strange twist on the usual 9/11-hero tale, Rodriguez had pursued a federal lawsuit charging that the Sept. 11 attacks were a conspiracy orchestrated by President Bush to justify wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

But the lawsuit, which named Bush and 54 other government officials and agencies, was dismissed in June. And Marconi says the film would be a straightforward tale of heroism.
..
Rodriguez met Sheen, Morales and Marconi last month at a 9/11 conference in Los Angeles. "Charlie told me, 'I'd be honored to turn your story into a movie,' " Rodriguez said.

holy shit, is this a joke?

holy shit, is this a joke? Charlie Sheen as well?

But the lawsuit, which named

But the lawsuit, which named Bush and 54 other government officials and agencies, was dismissed in June. And Marconi says the film would be a straightforward tale of heroism.

regardless,i like to think with William Rodriquez and Charlie Sheen involved, they will be able to slip some truth in.

Awesome stuff! I hope they

Awesome stuff! I hope they hurry up though cuz, we're really running out of time...

Huh?

I should think they should do more than sneak a little truth into it... wtf? Honestly, I hope this is some sneaky way of tricking deniers into watching a truth film, otherwise it seems, well, a bit self-serving...

_

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

Charlie Sheen? William

Charlie Sheen? William Rodriguez? hmmmmmmm.

you dont expect some huge

you dont expect some huge film distributor to give the green light to a "9/11 inside job" film do you? JFK was made decades after the fact, and even that film had a hell of a time trying to finda distributor. the best they can hope to do is slip some truth in, there is now way your gonna go to some film executive and say your gonna point the finger at Cheney etc. thats just not realistic.

...more latest 9/11

...more latest 9/11 Bloglines:

http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001
August 21, 2006

Rodriguez hooks up with Charlie Sheen for 9/11 movie
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Liquid and Cheese Planes -by Gerard Holmgren
WSJ: 9/11 Without Terrorism? Now Here's a Conspiracy -
LC-Korey Rowe makes Alternet front page!
9/11-LIHOP article Baltimore Chronicle: "Pipelines to 9/11"
New dagbladet about "9/11conspiracies"
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Review NAFEEZ AHMED'S 7/7 BOOK
Stormfront also likes "Loose Change"
911truthseekers.org links 9/11" Inside Job" to Global Hawk
Bay: 9/11 conspiracy theories can't stand up to facts
More 9/11 TV Specials
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hey Nico, you might want to

hey Nico, you might want to check the thread you got those Albanese comments from. he doesnt think Loose Change is "CIA". he made that pretty clear.

I didn't quote him out of

I didn't quote him out of context and it's pretty clear
that he associated LC with CIA and CP on purpose.
In Reality Hangouter Albanese, who once planned to take over ny911,
is himself a favourite for cointel-pro and violent civil disobedience and
i believe everyone should know his latest statements...

no time for debate now...

...while we are here,

...while we are here, everyone should know that Albanese's other
"Gang of 4" member Nic Levis is back from Greece in NYC
and continues to plan infiltrating and sabotaging ny911truth as well.
He plans an own event on Sep17th at St. Mark's Church about
his watered down research on 'wargames', heavily influenced by
the Ruppert hangout spin.

Albanese furthermore DOES use anonymous handles here every time
when he attacks me and suggest i should leave the U.S.
It's time to reveal Albanese's real face.

supporters of Ruppert

I think general support for M.Ruppert maybe reasonable, but anyone that supports Ruppert's "Loose Change CIA disinfo." remark, even anyone that does not condemn it, is unacceptable.

All Albanese did was repeat

All Albanese did was repeat what Ruppert said and then added that he has some concerns himself about LC being loose with the facts. Is that such a crime?

Keep attacking fellow truthers, Nico. Great way to spend your time.

Albanese is NO "fellow

Albanese is NO "fellow truther" and this anonymous
is another coward fraud.
Everyone who is still a hangouter after 5 years movement
should apply for a job at the White House or Rendon Group.
At least we don't want *THEM here in New York City, understand??!

Furthermore i am NOT spending my whole time
on attacking others, since i'm connected with
many other projects as well.

Nice to know

You consider attacking others as part of a project. Thanks for your honesty.

Gold, i have no time today

Gold,

i have no time today for your silly cultist pseudo unity BS, okay?

There is no secrecy in it, that this movement is at least infiltrated
with hangouters, therefore it is indeed a project to report on this.
I'm also not dishonest on revealing these structures and Albanese
was one of the first infiltrators who sabotage MY group, ny911truth.org

Since you have no clue, what happened and still happen here in NYC,
why don't you just shut up and let ny911truth decide what they think about
Levis, Albanese + Co?
Fact is the audience of ny911truth don't want them here in the leadership,
because they blocked the evidence on controlled demolition for years.

Furthermore Wimps like Gold who on one day decide to leave this room and come already
back after 48 hours i can't take serious either.

It's therefore YOU who are dishonest, not me, who continously reported
about infiltration and sabotage within this movement.

It's not about popularity contests or pseudo unity with hangouters.
There are 3 weeks left until the 9/11 anniversary, time to clean out
this hangout crap. We have to have a strong and clear message here in NYC,
so i give a damn what you're drivelling in a chat room.

What happened with your announced visit of NYC btw?
Wasn't it Gold who planned a "boxfight" against me because you
don't like what i have to say?
Maybe we can finally present a quick Able Danger Disinfo round table
at St. Marks? Gold vs. Haupt.

Anytime, butterhead bring it on :)

Nico

Nico -

If you EVER refer to me publically as a VIOLENT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE ADVOCATE again I will file legal charges against you.

Your useless opinions do little more than bemuse most members of this forum - and no one takes your research seriously.

But - if you ever refer to me as advocating VIOLENCE again I will certainly bring legal action against you.

That is where i draw the line - and I have legal services available to me to take action.

You have publically accused me of threatening your life - and I have the eyewitness accounts of Father Frank Morales of St Marks church to back me up. If you think - for one minute - that i would NOT take this to the legal authorities - you are sadly mistaken.

Maybe other here are will to put up with your nonsense - but i have my limits - and you just crossed them,

You can explain to the POLICE why there were no planes on 9/11. That should get you put in the padded room for a nice extended vacation.

I never threatened you

I never threatened you Albanese.

Dangerous Language Nico

Nico said:

"In Reality Hangouter Albanese, who once planned to take over ny911,
is himself a favourite for cointel-pro and violent civil disobedience...."

Nico - go hop a flight on the next CGI plane to hell

Nico - go hop a flight on

Nico - go hop a flight on the next CGI plane to hell

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Is Nico one of the jackasses

Is Nico one of the jackasses who think that no plane hit the WTC towers?

My father-in-law was standing right below. He heard the engine gunned as the 2nd plane flew up, and he watched it crash in. No videotape involved whatsoever.

Sorry. Throw that theory into the toilet, where it belongs.

..

the best they can hope for is *saying* it's not a conspiracy film, but actually making one, by ignoring all the lies and exposing the unanswered questions, such as: why was William's 'explosive' testimony ignored?

If not now, then soon such a

If not now, then soon such a film will be made. The administrations grip on power is slipping by the day...

laura ingraham show mentioned this

first time i heard about this was this morning laura ingraham mockingly read the NY post article whilst playing twilight zone music.....

usually movies arent announced until some sort of financial entity has greenlighted it. Has this project got a script yet? if so who has written it? Or is it just in the very early brainstorming stages?

I was really looking forward to Sheen's brother Emilio's movie called "Bobby" about the bobby kennedy assassination until i read a synopsis for it. Apparantly its going to be a kind of "magnolia"/"crash" type of movie focusing in on the lives of many different people and how they percieved the event, not a conspiracy movie at all.

JFK II

Chris, I know you have talked about this site, have you seen the movie? Holy smokes, I had no idea about any of this.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-9060305020185604305&q=JFK+II

if thats JFK2, yes i own it,

if thats JFK2, yes i own it, i highly suggest you buy it too. many of the facts in that film come directly from Webster Tarpleys classic book-"The Unauthorized Biography of George H.W. Bush". same goes for that book, if you dont own it, buy it. also on that site is the film about the death of JFK Jr., and while it is a very interesting film,its not as solid as JFK2, but still worth a look. where was George W. Bush for 3 days while JFK Jr. was missing/presumed dead? why didnt even his staff know where he was for all that time?

An upcoming David Marconi

An upcoming David Marconi movie:

Kaleidoscope - An FBI agent battles bureaucracy while rooting out terrorists.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0444649/

One of his previous movies:

Enemy of the State - A lawyer becomes a target by a corrupt politician and his NSA goons when he accidently receives key evidence to a serious politically motivated crime.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120660/

Interesting stuff!

August 22nd

There's an update to the August 22nd end of the world story...

ABC: Tomorrow is Shiite 'day of reckoning'

Rex 84: FEMA's Blueprint for Martial Law in America

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROL20060820&articleId=3010

We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

Daniel Ellsburg Says...

Charlie Sheen as William Rodriguez?

Many people forget, Charlie was born Carlos Estevez! He kind of resembles William Rodriguez a bit too!

This is exciting news! I don't see William Rodriguez signing off on a white-wash film about what he experienced. Sure, they've got to "position" it as a tale of "heroism" (and it is by the way), but with Marconi (writer of Enemy of the State), Sheen & Rodriguez signed on, it's a safe bet that this one will blow the lid off!! Keep in mind, Mr. Rodriguez has already turned down big dollars to stay silent. He's made it clear he can't be brought. I have great respect for his courage AND his integrity.

I'm very excited! This is HUGE news for the movement! Congratulations Big Willy!!!

An open letter to Nico

Nico -

If you EVER refer to me publically as a VIOLENT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE ADVOCATE again I will file legal charges against you.

Your useless opinions do little more than bemuse most members of this forum - and no one takes your research seriously.

But - if you ever refer to me as advocating VIOLENCE again I will certainly bring legal action against you - for the very purposes of demonstrating the non-violent nature of this movement.

Very recently Dr Jones was accused of advocating violence by WorldNet Daily.

How interesting that you suddenly appear to be picking up this same approach to attacking activists in this movement.

This is where i draw the line - and I have legal services available to me to take action if need be.

You have publically accused me of threatening your life - and I have the eyewitness account of Father Frank Morales of St Marks church (as well as the 100 others in attendance)to back me up.

Maybe others here are will to put up with your nonsense - but i have my limits - and you just crossed them.

As for NY911Truth - I know of not ONE member of that group who welcome's your participation - or views any of your research as legitimate. your claims to speak for the NY movement is frankly laughable. In fact - on the one occasion where you were given the courtesy of speaking - laughter WAS what resulted. Most of the audience found your claims of 'no planes' as the absurdist abstractionist distractions of a sick and paranoid mind.

and to 911Blogger

i ask you - if you knowingly allow Nico Haupt to use your message boards to accuse members of this movement of VIOLENCE - what is YOUR responsibility in all of this?

Gentleman - Nico is crossing a very dangerous line - and I suggest you think about whether you want to allow this to continue.

once again---- yall find out

once again----

yall find out where nico is posting from

this is highly illegal and needs to be kept on record---this only helps us in the end

John, thats nothing new

John that’s nothing new dude, we've been saying Nico's a credibility damaging scumfuck for a while now, I say ban his ass. Thing is from what I remember Dz or Sbg was close to kicking him out when he tried to profile one of them, he actually came up with some kind personal info, I shit you not lol! I think it was actually bullshit that he said he “found” on Dz or Sbg. But wtf is that crap being tolerated for? There is a line to draw between encroaching on free speech, and the necessity of banning assclowns, and Nico crossed that shit with the first letter he typed here. Again I vote BAN!

"...As for NY911Truth - I

"...As for NY911Truth - I know of not ONE member of that group who welcome's your participation - or views any of your research as legitimate. your claims to speak for the NY movement is frankly laughable. In fact - on the one occasion where you were given the courtesy of speaking - laughter WAS what resulted..."

John Albanese is a liar and apparently learned pretty well from Ruppert, how to alienate someone in the movement.

He didn't show up at the weekly Sunday meetings of ny911truth since 7, 8 weeks at least.
He's spreading limited hangout drivel. He opposed evidence on controlled demolition.
He opposed Loose Change.
There is enough gossip within the audience, that noone wants Albanese and Levis back to the group.

Albanese wasn't even around at my event and implies, the laughter was about me.

As a matter of fact, the "laughter" was a reponse on the absurde inconsistencies of the footage and i wanted the audience to laugh. They're still giving me props and hands one week later.
I was even surprised by myself, how positive the response was.
That just showed they started to think, as correctly described in the following review:

http://911tvfakery.net/
http://911closeup.com/nico/Nico_ertell.html

"...But the comparison of two mutually contradictory videos of the smoking Towers, showing huge billowing clouds of black smoke moving impossibly in OPPOSITE directions, evoked smirks, gasps and giggles from the audience..."

Mission Accomplished

he's nuts

Just because i have the

Just because i have the evidence on MY SIDE, you open desperately any kind of boxes
to silence me, Albanese?

So sometimes i am the Nazi, sometimes the shill and sometimes just "nuts"?
Do you think the same about the audience of ny911truth who were supportive of the issue.
Do you think all the 9/11 Scholars, who signed the petition are "nuts" as well?
And all others?

You are a fruitlooper, running out of labels because you can't oppose the solid evidence
of 9/11 TV Fakery. I just hope this movement will sooner or lesser realize who the real frauds
are, maybe after they get presented the final hangout on controlled demolition, which smells in the air...

....btw, rumour has it that Fetzer and Jones removed Morgan Reynolds as a 9/11 Scholar.
He already doesn't appear in their membership any longer, but i don't have any confirmation on this yet...

Is *THAT the kind of solidarity and *unity everyone wants to have?
Shame on all 9/11 truthling orwellians.
They're not better than the US GOV.

And since this is still here a free forum, i will point my finger on this scandalous behavior!!

Mission Accomplished

He's nuts

Nico.. you need some professional help

Tsk tsk... Nico. you really need to leave 911blogger and focus on your own internal demons, of which you seem to have many. I would also take John's threats of litigation serious. You might as well leave here before things become much more uncomfortable for you. You are an intelligent person. But most here question your motives. Get help.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

this is serious

this is serious stuff...

they gotta re file this claim

who are these lawyers that theyre using---

how do we get them in contact with all the 911toxic syndrome survivors?

SOMEONE WITH SOME BALLS IS GONNA TAKE THE PNAC DOWN IN COURT

this is how it goes

a federal judge has warned

a federal judge has warned that the nsa wiretapping is unconstitutional

this is the way to go---

these avenues are the weaknesses of the pnac

take these suckers out!!

maybe they could redirect rodriguez's team

k

k

Popular Mechanics On Charles Goyette Tomorrow

I just heard on the Charles Goyette show today that one of the guys from popular mechanics will be on the show tomorrow (22/8/06) at 8.30am.

Try to call in or send Charles some hard questions and facts to confront these liers from popular mechanics with.

http://www.1100kfnx.com/goyette.php

Weekday mornings from 6- 9 am on 50,000 watt Phoenix station KFNX News Talk Radio 1100.

Current time in Phoenix:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=197

E-mail address: charlesgoyette@cox.net

The call-in numbers for the program are 602-277-KFNX; that’s 602-277-5369. Listeners in our growing audience across the country can be a part of the program toll-free by calling 1-866-536-1100.

Charlie Sheen could totally

Charlie Sheen could totally play William Rodriguez.I wonder if that's what they mean to happen.(It would probably be the performance of his career.)

I'm trying to get my

I'm trying to get my comments to post newest last like on the old site.

...i thought Rodriguez

...i thought Rodriguez doesn't like no-planers, LOL :)

Charlie Sheen March 20, 2006
http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/charlie-sheen/charlie-sheen-talks-911-c...
"...There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life..."

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/3/emw362500.htm&cid=1105351482
"....I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it disappears behind the building and then we see the tremendous fireball."

Albanese is right. He's

Albanese is right. He's nuts.

Nuts

"it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on..." = no-plane ?!?
Nico = Disinfo.

Rules of Disinformation

The more I read Nico's posts

The more I read Nico's posts and his related links, the more I believe that Nico is a very smart, CIA operative working to bring down the 9/11 movement. I have reviewed ALL video tapes associated with his posts. I have also seen unedited, live independent videos of the 2nd plane hitting WTC 2. Yes, the media (mainstream) is complicit with upholding the official story thanks to the Zelikow/Kean Commission. But not so complicit, to stage fake planes hitting both towers. My theory is both WTC towers were hit by jet airliners, not the original flights, manned by remote control.

Nico... again.. get help. The whole CGI, cartoon planes hitting both WTC towers is ludicrous to say the least. Let your handlers know this. Maybe they have a different angle on how to TRY to disrupt the 9/11 Truth momentum. Nico = CIA disinformant. Which is great for us considering how incompetent the CIA actually is.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

Bubba, do you also accuse

Bubba,
do you also accuse half of the audience of ny911truth as CIA too, who gave me props after my presentation?
http://911tvfakery.net

All you have are empty accusations and labels while NOONE was able to debunk anything so far, because there is nothing to debunk.

Do you also accuse everyone who signed the 9/11 TV fakery petition as "CIA agents"?
http://www.petitiononline.com/911tvfak/petition.html

So far 13 9/11 Scholars HAVE signed it:
Stevan Douglas Looney (Attorney), Ray "Titus" Sanborn (SA), Rick Siegel, Steven E. Jones, Michael Morrissey (University of Kassel, Germany), Brian Duncan (Fire Protection Engineering), Judy Wood, Brian Vernon, Alexander Dent, Brad Mayeux, Veronica Chapman, Andrew Johnson, Rick Rajter.

Also signed:
9/11 Truth Speakers like 'Candidate' Craig Hill, Ian McFerran (UK 9/11 Truth Movement), Jimmy Walter, Rev H Thorpe Saxton, Lenny Bloom, Dennis Morrisseau (9/11 Truth Candidate), Ralph Charles Whitley, Sr.(decorated American Veteran of One), Thomas J Mattingly (McClendon Group/National Press Club DC) and others.

Or the following sites, which are supporting the evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery? Are all of them CIA?

http://911stealth.blogspot.com/
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/
http://perpetualynquisitive.blogspot.com/
http://www.911review.org
http://www.total411.info/2006/07/911-scholars-spat-over-tv-fakery.html
http://911truth.wetpaint.com/
http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html
http://911cgiwatch.blogspot.com/
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/rrr3.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=we_have_holes
http://www.fooledagainon911.com
http://www.archive.org/details/911-Chronology-Source
http://www.archive.org/details/911-Chronology-Source
http://www.911hoax.com/
http://www.911foreknowledge.com/
http://www.911closeup.com/index.shtml?ID=71
http://webfairy.org/2hit/
http://missilegate.com
http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175
http://thewebfairy.com/911
http://www.911chronology.com
http://reopen911.org/

why do you continue to

why do you continue to misconstrue the signatures on your petition as support for your opinions?

there is a big difference between voting to write a scientific paper which analyzes the hypothesis, and concluding that such a paper will support your opinion.

it just seems disengenuous to me, and i know for a fact that at least a few of the names you mentioned would not appreciate the way in which you allude to their support of your opinions when in fact they have said no such thing.

disengenuous? Nico? no

disengenuous? Nico? no way.............hahaha

Can't wait

Yeah, I can't wait to see a SCIENTIFIC paper debunking your no-plane BS.

It is OUR paper and it will

It is OUR paper and it will be written by 9/11 Scholar Rick Rajter.
That is what the petition was about.
To SUPPORT this paper at st911, exactly.
There is nothing more or less to read into it.
Our research will continue anyway and we have growing support in NYC among the ny911truth audience.

If Prof. Jones is releasing his own 'counter paper', i have no problem with it. Since he never responded on our findings either, it will possibly include hillarious nonsense and junk science, which is just helpful for the issue as well and will finally reveal him as a fraud as well...

I guess his handlers at Los Alamos are already scratching their heads what to write... -:)

so are you saying then that

so are you saying then that this paper is being written purely by those that support your conclusions?

part of the effort of an investigation is to gather all data that exists and then find what fits that data, not just that data which supports your hypothesis.

i surely hope the paper weighs all data available, and doesnt seek to purely prove a given perception.

I am saying that the main

I am saying that the main purpose of this petition was to SUPPORT a paper on our findings to let the audience decide.

The description of this petition says it very clearly. If anyone signed under a wrong impression, then this isn't my fault.

I want this paper up. Jones can then respond with an own paper That is his right. Again the audience has to decide, which conclusions they find more acceptable.

So far both Fetzer and Jones, as everyone else, escaped from a debate. That also included Kevin Barrett.
But all other 9/11 scholars either remained silent on the issue or were supportive. That just means, that Jones lied some weeks ago on 911blogger.com, when he claimed that all 9/11 scholars decided "pro-planes".

His own dubious background should explain why.
He is aware of classified knowledge of Los Alamos, DoD and co. It's therefore highly suspicious, why Dod and Co. didn't abandon him yet:
http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/Jones-Kubiak.htm

"...so are you saying then

"...so are you saying then that this paper is being written purely by those that support your conclusions?.."

yes. It is written by Rick Rajter (st911.org) and was also supported with help by Morgan Reynolds (who now resigned from the 9/11 Scholars, together with Judy Wood and Axel Dent)

The paper is constantly revised by all important researchers on that issue. Rajter also spoke at my event and he's one of the smartest 9/11 Scholars i know.
We should have it finished pretty soon.

HAHAHA, bare jokes!!

Nico if Dz or Sbg post your wack piece of disinfo shit "paper" (and damage the fuck out of 911blogger's credibility I might add!!!) , you are going to get so told what’s up in the comments, LOL can't wait.

You didn't post anything

You didn't post anything productive so far, so why should i be concerned?

You currently insult Rick Rajter. I am NOT writing this paper, it's Rick. You have to address your comments to him then.

HAHAHA

He and you insult yourselves by even considering that "no planes hit the towers", no need for me to do much dissing LOL!

The "miraculous story" and being offensive to shills

I'd like to know what this paper says.

Reason:

a) 911 was a DECEPTION EXERCISE, a magic show.

b) EVERYTHING connected to it, will NECESSARILY have deception built-in.

c) the PLANNERS *must* have been aware that "conspiracy theories" will come and attack the "miraculous story". THEREFORE they have provided for this, by STALLING and limited hang-out and disinfo. Nico's preoccupation with this is very productive and if his accusations are not offending the targets, they weren't spot-on, because spot-on accusations are offensive to the targets, if you know what I mean.

I am sure the planners MADE MANY MISTAKES, pokered too high, and will over-react again, maybe by releasing more evidence. The MUST-HAVE item for the truth-movement is the ACTUAL SCRIPT. It is essential that we find out how exactly they did it. Only then will whistleblowers appear, short of supoena in court, which, I think we will not have in a long while. We are on our own. Lets fight it out.

IMHO opinion Bem Bruce Lee Styles is too young to understand and Albanese is a blockheaded anus-pinching US-american braggart, but both may yet come right, once they see the no-plane light.

Here is my help for you sorry lot:

Imagine the WTC speeding towards a stationary 767 at 300mph and see how the aluminium-can crumples.

Now compare this to the hot-knife-into-butter impact video.

Huh?

Before you respond:

a) invent some funny insults for me, you lamers .. be creative.. its fun!

b) think about the physics of structural steel meeting aluminium-aeroplane-wing-tips.

c) position the two engine-impact holes

And, Nico... go forth! it is a good time. Most US-americans are now AWARE THAT THE 911-inside-job-POSSIBILITY exists. They are in the same phase that I was in 2002. My guess is 2010... for the date that we will find out whatreallyhappened.

Uh yes. Tell Siegel that he may be right about exotic weapons ... but he may be WRONG, too. The questions in http://www.google.com/search?q=ballotechnics+red+mercury
need an expert to help us. Especially a neutron-event record of that tuesday..

anyway, I think the debate has just started

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=3108&st=840

explain please

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/230806wtccomplex.htm

Here are a couple of shots for the no planers and 'blue screen' advocates - aircraft engine parts and a truck designated to store them. Claiming that no planes hit the WTC towers is damaging to the movement's credibility and it is one of the first things that debunkers like Popular Mechanics seize upon when building straw man hit pieces.

WTC no-planers most definitely disinfo

Suggesting that the WTC speeding towards the 767 is in any way analogous to the opposite is absurd. The force of the plane's impact is determined (according to Newton) by its mass multiplied by its acceleration. It is that force that led to the knife in butter effect. A similar case is that of micro-meteors, which are tiny particles found flying in space that becuase of their very high speed (compensating for their low mass) can actually damage spacecraft which must be built to withstand these tiny "bullets".

That 9/11 Truth is being misrepresented as supporting to any appreciable degree the no-planes theory is clear to me from the number of people who come up to me in the street and say "HA! You are SO wrong--I was THERE! I SAW the plane hit!" Whether or not they're telling the truth, they seem convinced that this will suck the wind out of a truther's sails. They inevitably get a confused look on their face when I reply "of COURSE the planes hit the towers. but they wouldn't have fallen had it not been for the explosives pre-positioned in the buildings."

The fact that the disinfo artists (and I don't think they are necessarily CIA) are sticking with this strategy says a lot about the options they feel they have at this point. In other words, there really isn't much else they can do to counter the groundswell of awareness, short of going for broke and staging "the big one", which carries the risk of alienating all the fencesitters in the know who are currently debating whether or not to continue playing along with the charade.

Trust a truther who is more active in real life than online--you can smell the desperation on these people when they confront you, and see it clearly in their eyes what's more. They are teetering at the edge of an abyss, after all--that they never thought they'd be staring down. Nothing they do can stop us at this point, and all but the most fanatical and/or thick-skulled know this very well and are busy securing seats on the lifeboats while the unwitting continue to bail water from the sinking ship of deception and cover-up. "Atta boys, you're doing great!" the conspirators call out to their tragically loyal underlings. "You've got'em and their no planes nonsense on the ropes! Hit 'em hard now!" Confused and exhilarated by a hope only known to fools and small children, they ignore the rising water.

RT out

_

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

NO PLANE - Blue Screen = one md80-plane no767 + vectorKeying

Nico...

looks like you are right.

These kids are worse than useless.

The perps are easily winning against that crowd.

They are defending that the virgin WAS cut in half
during the magic show.

I think you should put effort into finding someone that can reality-ENHANCE your findings... i.e. make a nice-looking computer graphic, illustrating the inject business.

To you DBLS-type dorks... go and visit a magic show... and try to find out the tricks.... you (like me) will be WRONG GUESSING VERY OFTEN.

NO PLANE - Blue Screen = one md80-plane no767 + vectorKeying

Nico...

looks like you are right.

These kids are worse than useless.

The perps are easily winning against that crowd.

They are defending that the virgin WAS cut in half
during the magic show.

I think you should put effort into finding someone that can reality-ENHANCE your findings... i.e. make a nice-looking computer graphic, illustrating the inject business.

To all planehuggers ... go and visit a magic show... and try to find out the tricks.... you (like me) will be WRONG GUESSING VERY OFTEN.

But then to turn to some fellow-guesser and accuse him of harming the movement because his guesses must be wrong.. where you braggarts don't know shit yourself...

thats the american way.

spew!

about marconi

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11211

Dec. 8, 2005

DoD Cyber Crime Center & Joint Task Force – Global Network Operations co-host annual conference, media invited

ANDREWS AIR FORCE BASE, Md.—The fifth annual DoD Cyber Crime Conference, co-sponsored by the DoD Cyber Crime Center and the Joint Task Force - Global Network Operations, will be held Jan. 10-13 at the Westin Innisbrook Resort in Palm Harbor, Fla.

The conference is open to all federal, state and local law enforcement officials. The Jan. 10 plenary session and exposition will be open to the media free of charge. All attendees, including media, must register for the conference.

“Attacking Cyber Crime—The Evolving Professions” is the conference theme and the conference will focus on all aspects of computer crime: intrusion investigations, cyber crime law, digital forensics, and information assurance as well as the research, development, testing and evaluation of digital forensic tools. The goal of this year’s conference is to address today’s new cyber crimes and those of the future.

The conference will feature presentations by leaders in the discipline of cyber crime prevention. The exposition will feature related agencies and companies. To stimulate a “Futures Exploration” dialogue a special appearance will be made by David Marconi, screenwriter of “Enemy of the State” and the upcoming film, “The Informer.”

Planting debris is a

Planting debris is a no-brainer.
It was done at the Pentagon and done in Shanksville.

What's the point?
Ray Ubinger showed on his website at http://www.911foreknowledge.com, how this particular part might have been even planted BEFORE the attack.

Yea Nico your a nut bag,

Yea Nico your a nut bag, there was debris up on rooftops all over the place, there was fire on the ground caused by the planes impacts. And frankly I can't believe I'm even having to explain this shit to you, its pathetic.

Do i have to repeat this

Do i have to repeat this again?
Planted debris does not prove anything, especially for 9/11 TV Fakery and the forensic evidence that no 7X7 hit the Twin Towers.

Tell that the Pentagon- and Shanksville researchers.
Or better tell this the remote control loonies like Jim Fetzer, Phil Jayhan and Prof. Jones who argue about a military aircraft :)

I'm also curious where your "rooftops" photos are.
I never saw these pictures and you didn't provide any link either. I am only aware of 3, 4 photos of plane parts in NYC and even Alex Jones' photo wasn't new.

The only thing which is pathetic is you. You should better work on our music, the rest is as useless as all your other drivel.

Do i have to repeat this

Do i have to repeat this again?
Planted debris does not prove anything, especially for 9/11 TV Fakery and the forensic evidence that no 7X7 hit the Twin Towers.

Tell that the Pentagon- and Shanksville researchers.
Or better tell this the remote control loonies like Jim Fetzer, Phil Jayhan and Prof. Jones who argue about a military aircraft :)

I'm also curious where your "rooftops" photos are.
I never saw these pictures and you didn't provide any link either. I am only aware of 3, 4 photos of plane parts in NYC and even Alex Jones' photo wasn't new.

The only thing which is pathetic is you. You should better work on your music, the rest is as useless as all your other drivel.

Here are a couple of shots

Here are a couple of shots for the no planers and 'blue screen' advocates - aircraft engine parts and a truck designated to store them. Claiming that no planes hit the WTC towers is damaging to the movement's credibility and it is one of the first things that debunkers like Popular Mechanics seize upon when building straw man hit pieces.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/230806wtccomplex.htm

you are feeding the enemy.........

Chris, there is only one

Chris,
there is only one photo, which shows plane debris and it IS stoneage old!
http://prisonplanet.tv/images/august2006/230806wtc7a.jpg

The part also doesn't match parts of any 767
and was analysed years ago at 9/11 Science and Justice Alliance.

Also this area was restricted BEFORE the 2nd attack, as seen in the documentary of the Naudet Brothers.

This isn't a new photo and you also didn't provide any photo with plane debris on a roof.
You both guys can't read and can't see, that's your problem.

And slush your damage drivel. This Meme was already developed by hangouters on the controlled demolition and does not make any sense, because plane fakery findings and forensic evidence are censored by US Media.

Again, ask Jim Fetzer why this photo doesn't match his theory on a military remote controlled plane.
That's his problem, not mine :)

Also stop your "'blue

Also stop your "'blue screen" dance.
Bluescreen was not used, just simple graphics vector keyed into empty landscapes.
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/CGI/CGI_aprilfools.html

You have no clue what you're talking about.
Go watch reality tv shows, dreamer :)

Chris is also lying with

Chris is also lying with this statement:
"...it is one of the first things that debunkers like Popular Mechanics seize upon..."

PM didn't care about this either. It's also not mentioned in their revised book.
We also confronted them on our findings for months, no answers.
So where are all these tons of damaging articles in MSM, moron??

ive seen more, i know of the

ive seen more, i know of the pictures of the plane parts on the top of buildings, i will get them to you as soon as i find them. you mean to tell me you have NEVER seen them? all the research you do? i dont buy it.

Nico, did PM talk about the

Nico, did PM talk about the theory that 911 was carried out by Reptiles? No, even though there are probably more people who read David Icke than believe your junk. Give it up already, no one's buying into your crazed theories.

"And slush your damage drivel."

I don't know... somehow that sentence just tickled my fancy in a way Nico's use of English never has before. I actually like it when non-native speakers just let it all hang out (no pun intended) and bend the English language to suit their will. Keep it coming, Nico.

Suck a dick Nico;

Suck a dick Nico;

http://www.911blogger.com/v2/node/916

And I've also seen footage taken by someone filming the burning towers, and cars and other stuff on the street are on fire. Did the people who planted the plane parts also set light to cars and shit Nico?

Regardless, how is this "fake"?;
http://mixtureofsounds.com/wow/new_911_footage.wmv

If the plane looks burly that's because
IT'S TRAVELLING QUITE FAST!! So pathetic, please stop this "no plane" bs.

Eric Salter demolished Nico

Eric Salter demolished Nico and the no-plane crowd several years ago; the alleged "anomolies" are due to the speed of the plane and imperfect video capture; too bad Nico didn't have the character to admit he was wrong and move onto something productive. Instead he's set his anchor to a sinking ship, and is increasingly resembling a legimately distrubed personality who perhaps should be checked into the nearest loony bit.

Nico... looks like you are

Nico...

looks like you are right.

These kids are worse than useless.

The perps are easily winning against that crowd.

They are defending that the virgin WAS cut in half
during the magic show.

I think you should put effort into finding someone that can reality-ENHANCE your findings... i.e. make a nice-looking computer graphic, illustrating the inject business.

To all planehuggers ... go and visit a magic show... and try to find out the tricks.... you (like me) will be WRONG GUESSING VERY OFTEN.

But then to turn to some fellow-guesser and accuse him of harming the movement because his guesses must be wrong.. where you braggarts don't know shit yourself...

thats the american way.

spew!

salters arguments were

salters arguments were strained guesses.

Salter also HATED Ghost Gun... nagged at everything.

To me salter sounded unhelpful... his only motivation seemed to attack an idea he didn't like.

"...Eric Salter demolished

"...Eric Salter demolished Nico and the no-plane crowd several years ago..."

Salter confronted us with outdated junk science data and didn't confront any new findings of the 9/11TV Fakery.
He remained silent in 2006. What he did in the past is totally irrelevant. So far NOONE, including Fetzer/Jones was able to debunk anything.

The audience of ny911truth also had the chance to ask questions at our event 2 weeks ago. There was nothing to debunk either. Salter chickened in like everyone else but at least he didn't reduce his criticism to insults or accusations .

Ironically he even helped us by providing us with rare uncropped and unedited footage, which made our case even stronger.

What speaks for Salter also is that he helped identify infiltrators in this movement. That deserves an alltime respect.

Nico, even if, by some

Nico, even if, by some miracle, you were right,

You would still be wise to move on.

No one buys the "no-plane" silliness.

No one EVER WILL, EXCEPT A FEW KOOKS

i repeat: no one will ever buy your theories except A FEW KOOKS.

this is not an insult, but a simple fact.

For the love of God, man, move on!

You won't listen to me.

You won't listen to me.

You care more about your pet theory than 911 truth.

Nico, you used to do good research; I'm asking you as a (former) fan: stop hating everyone, start researching.

the idea that "TV fakery" will go live is absurd; it's a silly theory and contradicted by EVERYTHING.

Please, stop insulting everyone and go research a productive area.

Nico, move on man!

Can't you put the no-plane @ WTC stuff on the back-burner for a while & move onto some other theories??? Why must you constantly obsess over such a controversial, divisive issue???

F'ing real airliners and/or fake airliners are always going to look wierd crashing into skyscrapapers @ 500+ m.p.h.!!! You're getting nowhere with this stuff. Talk about something else now & then!

yes, lets be DEVICE-sive

yes, lets be DEVICE-sive ...

the actual devices that were used is the key.

Nico, don't listen to the Magic-Show defenders.

go forth!!