Open Thread

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Another day, another open thread, have at it!

Where are all the MSM articles?

I'm sure 1000's of people sent emails to the news media in the "Call To Action"campaign... so where's all the articles already ???


Does anyone know the name of the aid Minata was refering to in the bunker with Cheny?
Just wondering if he's still alive?

Here it is!

We have three problems in this country.
#1 The Federal Reserve
#2 The 2 party system, republicans & democrats have been bought & payed for years ago.
#3 The major media........see bought and payed for above.
The fact remains.......With all the evidence we have on 9/11,even a fraction of it would be enough to incrimiate you or i,and still they run free.Iam sorry,but i feel we a losing this.
I sure hope iam wrong.

Congressmen debate 9/11 (La Crosse Tribune)



Published - Wednesday, August 23, 2006

Well, what do you know? It ended up being a real debate

By Richard Mial | La Crosse Tribune
Monday night’s debate between Democratic Congressman Ron Kind and Democratic primary challenger Chip DeNure was pretty interesting.

Most of us know DeNure for his conspiracy theories — most notably his belief that the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks as a way to use fear to force the country into war with Iraq. I don’t buy that, and most voters don’t buy it.

Front page layout.. 2 column

Since I posted in the Shoutout column last night, my Blogger front page is only the left and middle column. The right side colum has been pushed to below the bottom of the middle column. Btw, Im using Opera. I usually leave my browser open with all websites open all night. My front page columns were fine last night after my first couple of Shoutouts. When I load a 'recent post' the columns are fine. Shoutout may have nothing to do with it. This is just my input.

this is the same issue we

this is the same issue we are having in safari.. luckily i can test with opera since safari is mac only.. im guessing that we will need a width hack for opera like we have for IE for that panel.. can you tell me what resolution you are running?

re: Resolution

Im running Opera, with desktop resolution of 1280x1024 on a Sony 21" Trinitron moniter. Never a problem before.

ok cool, ill take a look at

ok cool, ill take a look at it tonight after work.. thanks for the details.

in the meantime, you can change the theme under 'my account' to '911blogger3col'.. this uses a table layout instead of CSS panels and should keep that 3rd column from wrapping..

sorry about that, ill get it taken care of this evening hopefully.

thanks again for your help

thanks again for your help with this.. it should be fixed now..

apparently entering break tags inside of the WYSIWYG editor's span tags can cause the span tag not to be closed, which in turn throws off all the div tags used for the layout..

in any event, duly noted, and ill let the other guys know too. thanks!

new frontpage

what's everyone think of my new frontpage?

- visit to learn the truth about September 11th, 2001

looks nice

I like the new look. Comments:

1. I think there should be a link back to that main page along with your other header links (SUMMARY · OFFICIAL THEORY / PROBLEMS / EVIDENCE · POSTER). Maybe call it "SEE THE EVIDENCE" or just "HOME". I know you can get back there by clicking the TRUTH 9/11 up top, but your main page should be easier to get back to if you click away from it.

2. Your links to the videos don't fit in the boxes. They run off the bottom of the boxes. NORAD (11:42) CNN (03:50) is right on the bottom line, and 9/11 Hero (50:40) is completely outside the box. Same goes for WKJO (01:40:23), which is straddling the line. I am using Internet Explorer, so not sure if it is a browser dependant issue.

Keep up the good work.

Don't foget to keep your brain washed.

Washington Post, full page A7 add for CNN tonight at 9.... Christiane Amanpour [walks] In The Footsteps of Bin Laden [just in case you've forgotten].

new WTC7 photos

Previously unseen photos provided to us by a fireman who was at ground zero on 9/11 highlight the implausible implosion of WTC Building 7 in comparison with buildings closer to the towers that sustained significantly more fire and debris damage yet did not collapse.

WTC-7 pics

Nice WTC pics. Just because a few rooms on 1 floor have are on fire is certainly no reason for the builing to implode.

Also, I wonder why that window is broken on the north side of WTC-7, the side completely away from the towers?

Great pic's!

Thanks for sharing.It's amazing the non believers can't grasp the truth from this!There is a differance between uninformed,and just plain stupid.

This news story needs to be put

on the first page. This is a huge blow to the official story!

Poll: Most think bin Laden planning another U.S. attack

This CNN poll is truly disgusting:

Poll: Most think bin Laden planning another U.S. attack

See how the gatekeeps are keeping the masses ignorant???

We need an "On Notice" board here..ala the Stephen Colbert show

It would be great to have an "on notice" section on this site that would list left gatekeepers that know the truth about 9/11 but due to cowardice, won't broach the subject.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

The more I use v.2 the more I like.


The more I use the new version the more I likey. I like that you list when new comments have been added. Please do the same, if possible, with the "Recent blog posts" section.

As all know, change is a necessary evil at times. Hell, I am a software developer and even I resisted to the new changes here. But, I have to admit, it is much better than the earlier version. Yes, DZ paid me to say this. LOL.. Just kidding. I still think the fonts on headlines need to be decreased, but I am in the major minority on this point.

Good job DZ...

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

Who is attending GZ event in New York? I am in...

It would be great if there was a count of 911bloggers that plan to attend the GZ event in NY. Is there a way to determine who will be attending this event thru a blog that would contain names and contact info? I plan on staying at the Marriott Marquis on Times Square with the gfriend and son (11 years old and a truther). I would love to get in contact with other truthers before the GZ event for drinks and discussion prior to the GZ event.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

I'm there...

Makin' my T-shirt today... hope this iron-on stuff works...

Yeah, a list of attending bloggers would be cool...

Please post the GZ event

Please post the GZ event details as a headline here so all know what is going on with the 9/11 events... I know this was posted as a blog a week ago, but feel this should be a headliner and updated as needed.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

civilian prison camps document

FEMA "concentration camps" or "centers for public safety"

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.

John Botte photo book

Will we find in some new photos and proofs for our cause ? ...

9/11 families speak out

Victim's Father Bill Doyle Dicusses 9/11 Coverup
July 7, 2006

Alex Jones: Founded in September of 2001, the World Trade Center United Family Group is a nonprofit 501c3, and you were its founder and head and you say you represent over 7,000 people. What is the average view of those that you represent about 9/11 and the cover-up?

Bill Doyle: What they want is... If you want to believe the 9/11 cOmmission's story -- like a lot of us don't, OK? You really gotta go look in the... It almost looks like there was a conspiracy about 9/11 -- if you really look at all the facts. A lot of families now feel the same way.


Alex Jones: With your 7,000 members, I'm sure you've talked to most if not all of them... what percentage would you say believe 9/11 is an inside job to some extent?

Bill Doyle: Maybe half, maybe. Probably 50/50.


Bush knew before leaving hotel

Here's proof that Bush knew what was "going on in New York" before he left his hotel for Booker Elementary School:

'ABC News' Special Report:
Tuesday 11 September 2001


JENNINGS: ...Want to check in very quickly with the president of the United States. John Cochran with the president in Florida. John:

JOHN COCHRAN reporting:

Peter, as you know, the president's down in Florida talking about education. He got out of his hotel suite this morning, was about to leave, reporters saw the White House chief of staff, Andy Card, whisper into his ear. The reporter said to the president, 'Do you know what's going on in New York?' He said he did, and he said he will have something about it later. His first event is about half an hour at an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida.

JENNINGS: Thanks, John. John Cochran with the president...


ABC Transcript:

Video - forward to 7:25 into ABC's Live 9/11 coverage:

Of course the official government lie has Bush learning about what was "going on in New York" after arriving at the school.

They scrubbed the Bush link

This is interesting. I recently found video (posted on YouTube) of John Cochran reporting that Bush first learned about what was "going on in New York" before leaving his hotel, and after posting it here I decided to check the link again to make sure it was working, but it was scrubbed. Oh well, here's another one (folks might want to record it before this one is scrubbed too):

September 11th as it happened( ABC - Part 3 ) Fwd to 7:05

re: Bush link

^oops that was me.

This second video does not

This second video does not contain the segment with the text from the transcript (at least I couldn't find it).

Here's the working Bush ABC link

My bad. Here it is:

September 11th as it happened( ABC - Part 3 ). Fwd to 7:05

Hey, stallion, you made good

Hey, stallion, you made good on your bad, so you're good.



What are you saying? That Bush talked to reporters about the attacks BEFORE they happened?

If that were true it would clinch everything. We could all pack up and go home, in a manner of speaking.

after the first plane hit,

after the first plane hit, before he got in the limo to go to booker elementary school.

I will check the timeline,

I will check the timeline, but we have always been told he was in the limo at 08:46

re: What???

How come we haven't heard

How come we haven't heard this before or seen the trancripts? Where did they come from? This is a significant variation to the timeline. Now it appears he was in his hotel room when the first plane hit which makes it entirely possible he wached it on TV but incredible that he went ahead with the Booker visit.

"which makes it entirely

"which makes it entirely possible he wached it on TV but incredible that he went ahead with the Booker visit."


This report has been around for a few years now. I first wrote about it a year or so ago, but nothing ever came of it. Some people told me that the transcript might be a hoax. But just a couple of weeks ago I found the original ABC 9/11 video footage posted on YouTube, so it's definitely not a hoax. I personally think Bush let the cat out of the bag back at the hotel and was caught off guard when the reporter asked him if he knew what was "going on in New York". I'm not ready to say that he did indeed see the first plane, but I will say that John Cochran's report back at Bush's hotel contradicts the official timeline about when Bush said he first learned about the attack. IMO this is the kind of evidence that could be used in court against Bush and Co. who've said that he first learned about it when he arrived at the school. FYI, I believe Cochran's report aired at 9:17 a.m. on 9/11, before Bush gave his first on camera response to the attack at 9:30 a.m..

Israel buys upgraded subs to

Israel buys upgraded subs to counter Iran threat: report

AFP | August 23 2006

In a bid to boost its military arsenal against a perceived threat from archfoe Iran, Israel has signed a contract with Germany to buy two submarines capable of carrying nuclear weapons, a newspaper report said Wednesday.

Is the Next Step a

Is the Next Step a Draft?

Rhonda Schwartz / ABC | August 23 2006

An Iraq War veterans group says the call-up of thousands of Marines from the Individual Ready Reserve, announced by the Pentagon today, is "one of the last steps before resorting to a draft."

"This move should serve as a wake-up call to America," said Jon Soltz, an Army captain who served in Iraq and heads the group, which raises funds for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans running for Congress. "Today's announcement that thousands of Marines in the Individual Ready Reserve will be called back to go to Iraq is proof that our military is overextended, and there is no plan for victory in Iraq."

When even ABC News is willing to talk openly about a coming draft, you should really pay attention. Canada anyone?

Cheney says dont worry. HA.

Earlier this summer, Vice President Cheney told reporters he is supporter of an all volunteer military.

"We keep the provisions for the draft in case circumstances should arise where it might be needed," he said, "but I don't foresee the development of those kinds of conditions any time in the future."

Dick.. .remind your daughter "Don't ask... don't tell"

Order of the Draft;

Bush administration kids all 18 - 42..
Bush Advisors' Kids(i.e. Pearle, Feith, Wolfowitz)
All Congress' kids

That will get the war over PDQ.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

So... any thoughts on who

So... any thoughts on who deserves to be President in '08? I can't think of anyone at this time. Hilary... not... Kerrey... not... George Allen ... LOL.. the Mukaka ass... McCain... total flip-flopper...

Help.. ! Russ Feingold?!.. John Edwards?!.... Hopefully someone with some balls integrity and 9/11 Truth in mind will surface out of the woodwork... soon

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country against his government" - Edward Abbey

Feingold is the only true progressive

as far as who actually has a shot of being the nominee for the Dems, the only one i like even a little bit is Russ"only man to vote against the Un-Patriot Act"Feingold.

yesterday is was going out

yesterday is was going out towards the lake ---and who do i see standing by the road with a campaign sign---->CHARLES KEY--
(campaigning for state senate)

i told him that i had to shake his hand---he was a really nice guy

now there were these two people following him and they acted just like shills---they would put a sign in front of all his and behind them

and one of them looked like their face was melting (and had a wig)---they were some kind of weird agents---and they were harassing the hell out of him

they run ads on the radio like every five minutes saying how bad it is the charles key is investigating the okc bombing as the false flag terror attack

total expensive smear campaign

i hope they dont try to take him out ---they were freaking weird and soulless

Challenge to lone gunman

Challenge to lone gunman theory
By Betsy Mason
- More than four decades after his death, John F. Kennedy's assassination remains the hottest cold case in U.S. history, and the clues continue to trickle in. Now Lawrence Livermore Laboratory scientists say a key piece of evidence supporting the lone gunman theory should be thrown out.

What You're Not Supposed to Know

again, your

again, your simplistic,racist, childish rightwing point of view isnt gonna fly well here. stop with the bullshit. all religioun can be dangerous.