Professor's 9/11 theories outrage NH leaders

Good, because these "leaders" unwillingness to do anything about this particular situation has outraged all of us for years. Another professor comes forward, follow the link to the article where you will have an opportunity to submit feedback.

http://tinyurl.com/lghto

A tenured professor of psychology at the University of New Hampshire believes an "elite" group within the federal government orchestrated the September 11th attacks on America.

William Woodward has already raised that possibility in his classroom and later this year hopes to teach a class that would explore Sept. 11th "in psychological terms -- terms like belief, conspiracy, fear, truth, courage, group dynamics."

He may not get the chance. Several state leaders yesterday criticized Woodward for bringing the radical theories into the classroom.
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Thanks to Steve/FHB for sending this in.

Interesting article today

There was an article in The Guardian in England today, from an interview with Joel Meyerowitz who has just produced a book of his photographs of Ground Zero. The article is of interest for two reasons. Firstly it talks of the molten metal (although it incredibly blames this on the still-burning jet fuel!) and secondly it reports the presence of the NYPD Arson and Explosion Squad at Ground Zero. I haven't heard this mentioned before.

this is what i wrote

"The 9/11 Commission did not "conclude" that 19 Arabs were guilty of the crimes of 9/11/01, they started their investigation with that assumption and only published information that supported that position. That commission had huge conflicts of interest, all members being on the boards of various corporations involved in the miliary-industrial-intellegence-complex. Why was there no criminal investigation into the murder of those people? Why did Guiliani remove evidence from the crime scene?
I support William Woodward's efforts in bringing critical scholarly analysis of the events of 9/11 and the resulting "War on Terror" to the students of the University of New Hampshire.

I suppose you missed the

I suppose you missed the surveillance video footage of Muhammad Atta passing through Portland Airport security area, as well as one of his accomplices actually being stopped at the metal detector, and subsequently released without being searched. I suppose you haven't read transcripts from the flight attendants cell phone calls describing what was happening on board those planes, or calls from fellow passengers to their families also describing what happened on those flights. An expression from 20-30 years ago that adequately describes Prof. Woodwards beliefs desperately needs to come back into use. That expression is "The lunatic fringe". Rarely have I heard a more appropriate expression for you and your like minded cohorts.

The article contains

The article contains Disinformation - "...the Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
The group contends that "pods" attached to the jet airliners actually steered planes into the Twin Towers and explosives planted inside the buildings were then set off."

We need to take this to the scholars

if and I'm sure it is verifiably there is no refrence to the pods being control devices they should take the same angle as they did with john moseley

Good...

Another professor has the integrity to stand up and say something when the vast majority of lame duck politicians are willing to tow the party line of a full of holes official theory, even if the country suffers for it.... Grrrrrr!!!!

2 + 2 = 5 according to most at UNH!!

From the article.
Zack Bazzi, a UNH psychology major and National Guardsman who served in Iraq says:
"From my recollection, he said the government's theory on it is wrong and it's flawed and he thinks there are alternative theories to be explored. From my recollection, not one person in the class agreed with him."

Well that says a lot about the so-called intelligentsia of New Hampshire at the University of New Hampshire. So it's hardly
surprising that in the same article Sen. Jack Barnes, R-Raymond, said he's embarrassed the professor works at his alma mater, quote "I compare this guy with the idiots out there who say the Holocaust never occurred," Barnes said.

It makes you realise just how many people there are out there in position of power, responsibility, attending university, attended university, and with so called intelligence etc. who still believe that 2 + 2 = 5.

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Everything they say in this article about Woodward can be turned and said about the NH leaders.

1. the part about the tax dollar is absurd. Look at all the things our tax dollar is spent on.
To make the private Federal Reserve rich.
To pay 500 billion for weapons for the Military Industrial complex each year.
And these self righteous NH "leaders" don't say anything about this.

2. Where is the first amendment. These leaders are against the constitution because they don't want it in this case. These leaders have lost their way and they don't even know what America is about.

3. My sensibility as an American is to be able to say what I want. Apparently they don't want this kind of freedom. These leaders are enemies of freedom.

4. As an American, I am embarrassed by these strong arm tactics of these people in power in NH.

5. I think sen. Barnes is the one saying that the Nazis didn't commit the holocaust. That is how it sounds to me. And Barnes does some name calling. He doesn't talk at all about any details of 911.

6. This is not leftwing, it is fighting for the truthwing. We are the truthwing, not the left or right wing.

7. About JFK assassination. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Oswald did not shoot Kennedy. Get the Oliver Stone's JFK DVD, director's cut, and watch it. Read a few books on it. Its a no brainer. So, apparently we have leaders that have not read. Hitler didn't like books either. Didn't he have bonfires where they were burned.

8. ANd the Bazzi student. He apparently hasn't read either. But the amount of group pressure on a student is enormous and it is nearly impossible to see outside the box of the official 911 conspiracy tale.

and finally it might be nice to know how many of these leaders are thinking for themselves or are being told what to do from Washington.

Their huffing and puffing against this guy shows just how threatening the 911 TRUTH movement is to the perps.

All we want is a thorough independent investigation on 911. And then we want an independent revisit of the JFK investigation.

Wow, college seniors in psych don't even want to question 9/11?

From the article: ..."What did Woodward say about Sept. 11th? 'From my recollection, he said the government's theory on it is wrong and it's flawed and he thinks there are alternative theories to be explored,' Bazzi said. 'From my recollection, not one person in the class agreed with him.'"

WTF? Don't even think about EXPLORING alternative theories??? These people are upperclassmen majoring psychology???

Bushies would never lie??? Ah, what about the definite WMDs in Iraq???

The student quoted is a moron

What should I expect. The student quoted also said this:

One of the students in Woodward's political psychology class where the topic came up was Zack Bazzi, a UNH psychology major and National Guardsman who served in Iraq.

Bazzi said it was common for Woodward to share "different versions of different events in history" in the upper-level course. "He certainly doesn't try to indoctrinate the kids," he said. "He just puts it out there."

"Do I agree with it? No. The overwhelming majority of the facts obviously show that 9/11 was a terrorist act conducted by terrorists from Middle Eastern backgrounds."

Yep, it was them 19 A-rabs led by their Caveman! They hate us for our freedoms (the ones that Bush is stealing from us every day).

Now go back to Iraq & kill some more innocent people, Jack Bazzi, you murderous, bloody moron!!!

Don't look at the Sun, that's wa the terra-ists want you to do.

These sycophants where formed long before they ever reached marbled halls of higher thinking.

Reexamining ones' own eliminatory indoctrination, will probably only happen after ROTC gets them onto the battle-field. The sickness began with too much teevee, diagnosed ADD in the second grade, and no real attempt at studying genuine history beyond jingoism through high-school.

I'm telling you.... the fix is in and we're up to our necks.

Looking at 9/11, is like staring into the sun... you shut your eyes if you've never been shown how to use a disinfo filter.

If you've attended your requisite K-12 and took out a staggering loan for higher learning.... than you can be sure that disinfo is not real. So no need to look at the sun anyway. The goberment does that for us.

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"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.

And it was a "political-psychology" class, no less!

I almost missed that it was a "political-psychology" class, no less!!!

I am incapable of forming

I am incapable of forming human relationships in any meaningful way.

Thank you for your interesting blog.

I am incapable of excusing mass murderers

I am incapable of excusing mass murderers.
Go form some realtions with the Bushies in a meaningful way, you seem to be of their ilk.

For what it's worth, I sent

For what it's worth, I sent this response to the article, just going with what came to me right off the bat:

Typically shallow and one-sided article that you should be ashamed of. The article's authority is based, of course, on the statement

"The 9/11 Commission that investigated the terrorist attacks concluded 19 young Arabs acting at the behest of Islamic extremists based in Afghanistan were responsible."

Has anyone on your staff actually read the report? Has anyone there actually read a critique of that report, such as the book by David Ray Griffin? I didn't think so.

Instead of taking a politically biased government commission report as gospel, perhaps some of the literate persons of your staff could actually read about the controversies that remain unanswered by that report and use some independent and critical thinking to come to a conclusion that might even include criticism of that sacred text. Are you reporters or fanatical religious disciples?

Pardon my somewhat harsh tone, but you and all the other media need to wake up and find out the truth about this ultimately important issue. If there are treasonous members of the government who conspired to cause the events of 9/11 to occur, then you are aiding and abetting those criminals, when your job is to expose them.

Your publication is part of the fourth estate, and by all measures you are ignoring your critical mission to check the government by printing the truth, not mindlessly reprinting the pablum that is nothing more than propaganda.

Take pride in your publication. Be independent. Become informed. Do your own research. Don't be intimidated. Don't go along with the crowd.

Do your job.

Right on! Well said!

Right on! Well said!

Flight 93

“There was no plane,” Ernie Stull, mayor of Shanksville, told German television in March 2003:

“My sister and a good friend of mine were the first ones there,” Stull said. “They were standing on a street corner in Shanksville talking. Their car was nearby, so they were the first here—and the fire department came. Everyone was puzzled, because the call had been that a plane had crashed. But there was no plane.”

“They had been sent here because of a crash, but there was no plane?” the reporter asked.

“No. Nothing. Only this hole.”

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_mysteries.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20021109040132/http://wcpo.com/specials/2001/...

Dr. David Ray Griffin

new Paul Craig Roberts article

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article14718.htm

For reporting a scientific finding, I was called a “conspiracy theorist.” Only in America is scientific analysis seen as conspiracy theory and government lies as truth.

Applications of the laws of physics and scientific calculations can be reviewed and checked by other scientists. Scientists, like the rest of us, can make mistakes. However, questions raised about the collapse of the WTC buildings are not engaged but ignored.

The 9/11 scholars findings seem to be in sync with public opinion. Polls show that more than one-third and as much as one-half of the American public does not believe the government’s 9/11 story.

And, he continues with parallels to the JFK assassination.

leave comments at ICH

In case people weren't aware -- InformationClearinghouse.info allows comments -- so, check out the new Paul Craig Roberts article and look for the comments link at the bottom of the article. Truthers are, so far, out-weighing the denialists.

i just bombed on an

i just bombed on an Anonymous bastard......

The Problem

The problem with those who refuse to believe there is a conspiracy is that they won't bother to research the events on 9/11 or even watch one video of the attacks. But they sure are ready to criticize it and insult the physical evidence as ''theories''.
http://thepatriotparty.spaces.live.com

somebody respond to this fool below

fuck 9/11
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 08/26/2006 - 9:53am.
you fuckin jerks, sad dumb ass americans so frustrated by the sense of powerlessness in the face of corruption that all you have left is to push some cock and bull story about explosives downing the buildings (WTC 7 aside). How many years is now?? you will never get them on this, even if it is an inside job. Your leading experts on this subject include a mormon (Jones) who believes Jesus visited south america (he even wrote a paper on the subject) and a theologian (Griffin) who believes demonic forces are at work behind the scenes of all this (see his latest talk). Wake up. Pissing your energies away on this crap rather than taking the fight directly to an administration that is fucking your country backwards, about issues that really matter (corruption, cronyism, the corporate lobby, military corporatism, the Israeli lobby), is not clever. 9/11 this 9/11 that, blah blah blah, stand up and be counted dipshits, stop wasting your energy on this crap, do something politically constructive before it’s too late to do anything at all. If you don’t it is the end of America as we know it, what a shame. And Chomsky? a "gatekeeper" yeah right, read between the lines asshole, actually read some Chomsky, you might start appreciating how much he has done to wake Americans up, to the rot at the heart of it's political system. You think blabbing on about the NWO and Illuminati is doing something? You know who the crooks are, you can see them, why the need to entertain this crap about shadowy figures you can’t actually prove exist, the enemy is in front of you, fight it, or is throwing stones at shadows easier? Even if they do exist, try doing something about it, you can’t, that’s your frustration, you can’t fight an enemy you can’t see, so why not fight the one you that’s actually clearly visible? Maybe you like your SUV’s, Big Macs, and wide screen plasma TV’s, too much to risk loosing all that in a real struggle for freedom? 9/11 my ass.

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http://www.911blogger.com/node/2257?page=1

Dan K

You're right in that it's not all about 9/11. However, you would make your point better if you knew how to write in paragraphs.

thats a re-post, and its not

thats a re-post, and its not me, click the link to respond to that fool in the thread below.

Jon Gold got a rude awakening today

Jon Gold ventured into the real world today from his safe haven here and learned that real, rational people don't tolerate his nonsense or that of 9/11 conspiracists.

Let's hope Jon learned that his hubris is self-destructive.

Sky King...

Thinks that by me posting information, and people not choosing to read it, is a "Rude Awakening".

Jon Gold still in denial?

What information?

It's Not

Rocket Science...

Ghost troup talks about 911 two.

HAHA, that one is MUCH

HAHA, that one is MUCH better........

Dubya makes 911 confession

George W Bush says Iraq had nothing to do with 911...

NOTHING

Senator Gregg is an

Senator Gregg is an asshole.

Truth needs no laws to defend it.

The 9/11 Commission Report is an affront to many non-Kool-Aid-imbibing Americans, yet we already paid for it!

A few months ago, Professor Kevin Barrett was threatened for questioning the officially-approved conspiracy theory. It must be open-season on professors.

We would to well to consider the haunting words of Pastor Martin Niemöller.

If we don't stop this now, all of us will be required to subscribe to all lies spewed by this miserable and vicious Administration.

http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2006/08/then-they-came-for-professors...

OH NO!!! THE POLICE!!!