9/11 Bloglines (08/29)

9/11 Bloglines (08/29)
August 29, 2006

Cheney Again Links Iraq and 9/11 - TPMCafe
ScrewLoose on "the Continuing Demolition of the Scholars"
Odd Satire attempt by LooseChange Blog
"Muse" -Rock Frontman Invites Viewing Millions To See Alex Jones Movie
Conspiracies.it with 9/11 Updates
Andrew Cline/Union Leader thinks Al Quaida did Controlled Demolition
The 9/11 Chronicles: Destroying a Crime Scene
WTC Architectural photogragher, Tom-Scott Gordon files lawsuit
Spooked911 responds on Reynolds new 'stealth' article
Conservative Familiy group to protest CBS 9/11 documentary
Morgan Reynolds speculates about cloaking or stealth technology
Holmgren: Prof. Jones trashed the demolition evidence
CNN.com to replay 9/11 attacks coverage
James Richards renews call for "Grand Jury"
Kyle Hence biggest lie so far
Deborah Stevens: "The Truth about Moseley"
08/29: Prof. William Woodward on Alex Jones 1pm Central
09/14: Barry Zwicker event in DC
InsideHigherEd: "Another Scholar Under Fire Over 9/11 Views"
Vincent Sauve/sf911truth continues to promote disinfo sites 911myths, debunking911
Popular Mechanics Cancels Debate
Dave McGowan's rant about Mike Ruppert
NationalLedger complaints about C|Span promoting '9/11Truth'
TimesofIndia: "Osama not associated with 9/11 terror attacks’

Do You...

Have a listing of every appearance made by Kyle as well as the transcripts for each?

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

We actually asked him the

We actually asked him the same question.

Here is how he responded so far:

Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:26:28
"Kyle F. Hence" "...Sure, most recently I spoke about this subject, among others, on The Peter B. Collins Show in CA. They don't archive their shows but you can drop him an email and he'll confirm that we have discussed it multiple times including via satellite radio when he was on Sirius before Howard

since then no further response of Hence backing up his claim, especially on the years 2001- 2005.

That's Funny...

Because I distinctly remember having a conversation with Kyle regarding Controlled Demolition. As a matter of fact, I was the one who didn't believe it at the time, and he did. Also, how do you discount the several articles on 911CitizensWatch.org that pertain to Controlled Demolition?





There are several more. The point is Nico, until you can prove to me that Kyle Hence has never spoken about Controlled Demolition, then you are the one that comes across as the liar.

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

These are all articles from

These are all articles from 2006, not written by himself and in none of them is Kyle Hence personally speaking out in public, which was his original claim.

Also no references for 2001-2005 so far.

Jon Mosely responds on Deborah Stevens

"Jon Moseley" ruthercap@ earthlink.net
Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:03:35 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

What a magnificient example of the twisted, corrupt and mentally-ill reasoning of conspiracy theorists, is displayed by Deborah Stevens' article about me.

You could not ask for a clearer, textbook example of how the conspiracy theorists mangle reality in their pursuit of their false, malicious, and evil designs.

Just for your education, not that I take such laughable comments seriously, Deborah Stevens -- as an example of all conspiracy nuts --

a) Claims that the U.S. Seaports Commission (that pays me a couple hundred dollars a month to lead it) and its parent organization are part of some council that I have never heard of before.

Based on this organization which to my knowledge does not even exist, this somehow connects USSC to the government in a bizarre mangling of reality that I cannot begin to comment on, because for the life of me I cannot understand it.

The mangled reasoning of Deborah Stevens is SO similar to the Lyndon LaRouche nuts that I have to ask if anyone knows whether Stevens is a LaRouche follower.

b) AMAZINGLY, THIS SLEUTH FAILS TO PICK UP MY SPY NOVEL, COLD PEACE. If you think anything could fuel the imagination of these nuts it would be the fact that -- horrors -- I am the author of a SPY NOVEL so that I should believe that frame-ups are possible. Yes, I do belive they are possible. But I also believe in PROVING things, not just ASSUMING them.

And how do I KNOW all of these things and tricks and tactics hidden in my spy novel, Cold Peace? (Hint: Try renting a bunch of Tom Clancy movies on video.)

c) Notice the ad hominem attacks that they just cannot resist. Although I have been experienced on radio since 1985, have guest-hosted a radio show, and appear regularly in courtrooms, they MUST belittle their opponents by attacking me personally INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING MY ARGUMENTS.

d) Stevens looks for the registrar of the USSC website and tries to wring some kind of meaning out of the PROGRAMMING company's name WHICH I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH. Anyone familiar with internet "WHOIS" listings knows that the computer programming company or web hosting company is frequently listed, and this has nothing to do with the owner of the website. That is the programming company.

Yet this is a classic example of the conspiracy theorist looking for coincidences and patterns in the clouds.

e) Stevens has some point to make about my suggestion that the Post Office could improve the economy of the country and the finances of the Post Office, but I am unable to grasp what the hell she is talking about. So I am unable to comment, except to ask her to seek therapy.

Taken her comments at their best, Stevens' argument would make my new company TransGuard A COMPETITOR OF the Post Office, so that I would NOT want the Post Office to improve its service.

Why would I want the Post Office to take away business from us?

And of course, it never bothers a conspiracy theorist that she is taking a suggestion from way back in 1995 and contrasting it with my current employment 11 years later.

But if the Post Office addresses the needs of our industry, then they don't need us anymore! So how do we make money if the Post Office solves all the problems without us?

f) Continuing the cheap shots and juvenile antics of Deborah Stevens, she tries to focus on complaints BACK IN 2003 of an organization THAT I JOINED AT THE END OF 2005 -- TWO YEARS LATER.

But hey. If you're a conspiracy nut, you believe in time travel, right?

This is like Alex Jones' lunatic assertion that Operations Northwoods FROM 1962(!) proves the govenment planned 9/11.

g) Continuing the deceit and fraud of the 9/11 movement, Stevens knowingly takes my comments out of context by quoting my cry: "PERHAPS YOU DON'T THINK THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFORE YOU AFFECT THE SAFETY OF YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR NATION. But what else do you think is the consequence of what you are doing?"

and knowingly lies to suggest that this is somehow a threat (although oddly part of a discussion group, NOT directed at Stevens or anyone in particular).

This quote appears right after my email explained in detail that the real danger was from the terrorists, and that the 9/11 Hate Fest in LA and the 9/11 Conspiracy Mongers were causing our country to DROP ITS GUARD from a terrorist threat that is serious.

It is imposible for Stevens to quote that sentence without knowing from the paragraphs just before it that I was talking about the threat of terrorism., that the 9/11 nuts are trying to diminish.

So, Stevens is intentionally lying... because the paragraphs just before tell her so.

Jon Moseley

-----Original Message-----
From: Nico Haupt
Sent: Aug 29, 2006 4:51 PM

...including an article about Jon Moseley

9/11 Bloglines (08/29)
August 29, 2006

Quick question

Did you send a personal email to Moseley regarding this article?

Nope, we're actually in a

Nope, we're actually in a 25+CC debate with Mosely since 1 week, where we tried to grill him on many different issues, including the controlled demolition and FAA/BTS stuff.

I forwarded also into this group my latest bloglines, when he saw the need to respond to us on this article.
I thought his answer is embarrassing enough to release it also here.

You're The One...

Who says he is lying. You're the one who is supposed to supply every radio appearance of Kyle's along with transcripts to prove that he is a liar. Until you do that, you're just slandering him.

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

Jon wrote: "...You're the

Jon wrote:
"...You're the one who is supposed to supply every radio appearance of Kyle's along with transcripts..."

Why should i provide these transcripts? Are you nuts?
Veronica Chapman of st911.org asked him to back up his claim and he didn't provide anything about 2001-2005 so far.

It's a historical fact, that Hence blocked the evidence on controlled demolition for years.
Too many 9/11 researchers and 9/11 activist can testify for this.
If Hence wants to rewrite his own history, it's on him to provide sources, not us.


You don't have the radio appearances or the transcripts, then why should anyone believe you when you say he is lying?

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

Jon, what you *'believe' or

what you *'believe' or not, is your business.

And you're right, since i "don't have the radio appearances or the transcripts", Hence's claim is boldly false.

Spin my statement

However you want. You claim that Kyle is lying. I know he has promoted Controlled Demolition on his site, and with me. I have no reason to doubt his claim.

I also know that he has had several media appearances, however, I don't know where they are.

You're the one who says he never spoke about Controlled Demolition in those appearances.

Prove it.

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

9/11 Bloglines (08/29) -Late nite Updates

9/11 Bloglines (08/29)
August 29, 2006

WING TV: Laura Knight-Jadczyk
NHP Radio: Dr. William Woodward about 9/11 Inside Job
Jack Blood interviews JohnDoeX
OpEd News: Twenty Things We Now Know Five Years After 9/11
Cutting-edge 9/11 research coming to National Press Club
Silverstein Adds Darby & Darby at 7 WTC
Another 9/11 Scholar speaks out pro "no plane theory"
New Reynolds and Wood Reply to Jones
1/2 page Ad on ny911truth up at VillageVoice
08/29 MP3 up: Prof. William Woodward on Alex Jones 1pm Central
Pilots for 9/11 Truth: "We do not offer theory or point blame..."
Killtown: Jones Jones'd Flight 93 photo evidence news
Alex Jones & Jim Marrs "TerrorStorm" speeches

"Cutting-edge 9/11 research coming to National Press Club"

Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood do not speak for me.

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi