Barrie Zwicker: 9/11 the official story is the biggest conspiracy

9/11 the official story is the biggest conspiracy

(an interview with Barrie Zwicker)

Mark Twain said, “If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you’re misinformed.” According to Toronto writer Barrie Zwicker, this is the sorry truth about the officially accepted version of September 11, 2001, which he dissects in his new book Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11.

As a media critic, Zwicker’s credentials are impeccable: in addition to his commentaries on CBC Radio and Vision TV, he has worked for the Toronto Star and The Globe and Mail, and taught
journalism at Ryerson University for seven years.

Common Ground: According to a few polls taken in the US and Canada, there is a notable lack of faith in the official story on 9/11. Why do you think this disbelief persists, in spite of the lack of media interest in an alternative take on 9/11?

Barrie Zwicker: The disbelief persists because despite the drumbeat of the official story, and despite the nearly utter failure of the mainstream media to raise questions about the absurdities and impossibilities of the official story, ordinary, decent people, using their own senses and adding two and two, smell something fishy. Especially because the people promoting the official story, namely the White House and the big media, also promoted the lie of WMDs in Iraq, and have lied and covered up on other large issues. What I call the apologist community has more and more to answer for.

The early August Scripps Howard/Ohio University nationwide poll shows 36 percent of the US public “… suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them, so the United States could go to war in the Middle East.” The same poll shows “… anger against the federal government is at record levels.” The most common thing that Americans tell me is that the Bush regime is capable of anything and that it will stop at nothing. I agree.

CG: You were skeptical early on about the official story on 9/11. What was it that gave you your initial doubts?

BZ: My initial doubts arose before noon on the day of 9/11, based on the absence of any USAF response to the multiple hijackings, over a drama in the skies that lasted almost two hours. As a person always very interested in aviation, I knew that this quite simply was impossible. It turned out I was the first journalist in the world to go on national TV to question the official story.

CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can’t keep secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?

BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939, the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37 facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret. Who knew about the stealth bomber until the military chose to reveal it? Who knew about the U-2 spy plane until one was shot down over the USSR, thereby wrecking the Paris peace talks? Large secrets can’t be kept? Gimme a break!

CG: Many will be willing to go with you as far as the idea that the White House had forewarning of the attacks but allowed them to go through for political gain. But they will reject the idea of direct government involvement. What do you say to them?

BZ: In any crime, you have to search out all the evidence you can and then find out which suspect the evidence points to more than any other suspect. In the case of 9/11, the smoking guns are all pointed at the White House. Some people shrink from this observation out of a sheer established trust in government, or the belief that government would be incapable of such a heinous crime. Such a belief is unjustified by the evidence of what previous governments throughout history have done. Keep in mind what Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote in The Sign of Four: “Whenever you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

CG: In your book and DVD, you cite the declassified Operation Northwoods, a planned “false flag” operation that nearly came to be 30 years ago. Can you tell us more about this plan for a staged domestic terror attack?

BZ: The frightening thing about Operation Northwoods was that the whole of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously signed off on it. It involved American citizens being killed, to make more real the lie that the Cubans were carrying out “terrorist attacks” against the US. Furthermore, most of the advisors around then President John F. Kennedy were in favour of the horrible ruse, which would have led to the invasion of Cuba back in 1962. The rot of criminal, immoral, death-dealing deception was already that deeply rooted in the US White House then. Is today’s White House more pure?

CG: In your book, you state that it is the cumulative weight of evidence, rather than any one incident that leads you to believe 9/11 was an inside job. If you were to name the closest thing to a smoking gun, what would that be?

BZ: Smoking guns include the near freefall collapse – controlled demolition, for example – of WTC7. The non-appearance of the USAF for almost two hours on 9/11, and Bush saying he saw on ordinary TV the first plane hit, when footage of the hit was not aired on ordinary TV until the next day, come second and third in my lineup of smoking guns.

CG: Can you tell us more about World Trade Centre building number seven?

BZ: As mentioned, it was a matter of controlled demolition, which Larry Silverstein, the building’s owner, later admitted in the PBS documentary Rebuilding America. The question is could Osama bin Laden have been able to infiltrate his al Qaeda agents into WTC-7 weeks in advance and plant the required explosives? If he did have that power, how come the administration, and of course, the mass media in general, pay so little attention to this amazing power of Osama’s as to make WTC-7 a “non-building” to this day? Why does the 9/11 commission’s report not mention its collapse whatsoever?

CG: In your opinion, which techniques are being used to cover up the real story?

BZ: They’re more than techniques. As I have written about extensively in my book, there are deep and widespread realities of the media that create a de facto censorship regime as powerful as Pravda and Izvestia ever were in the old Soviet Union. You have to start with the owners of the corporate media, who are closely supportive of the Bush White House. The Fox News network is, in effect, a privatized, propaganda network at the disposal of Bush and company.

Add to this the traditions of journalism – he said, she said journalism, for instance – that treats lies and truth equally. And that journalists live in the same fiction-ridden society as everyone else, and are not, despite their pretensions, immune from “Big Picture BS.” As well, many, if not most, journalists are careerists and learn which stories or actions will get them raises and promotions, and which will get them into hot water. Put all these factors and many more, including peer group pressure, together and you get a situation akin to a school of fish; they all learn in which direction to swim and they all swim in that direction together.

CG: Of the independent researchers and/or writers digging into this matter, whom do you follow and respect?

BZ: There are many. And many, if not most of them, are ordinary, unsung people I meet in various cities who are doggedly pursuing 9/11 truth and trying to share it with their families, neighbours and colleagues. Of the better-known 9/11 truth activists, I think my greatest respect and admiration must go to Dr. David Ray Griffin, now the author of four books about the truth of 9/11. I devote a chapter to him in my new book.
Michael C. Ruppert, although he has, unfortunately, made some negative and unnecessary remarks about the 9/11 truth movement, remains a giant of the movement in my eyes nevertheless. He was about the earliest out of the gate, and when he spoke in Toronto in January of 2002, he pried my eyes open much wider than they were at that time. He connected the dots between the CIA, Wall Street, the illegal drug trade, corruption in the US government and 9/11. I believe his video, Truth and Lies of 9/11, was the first of its kind, based on a talk he gave in Portland, Oregon, in November 2001. He now focuses almost exclusively on Peak Oil and again, not only was he early on that, but he has also helped boost the visibility of the coming end of the age of oil, which will be civilization-shaking.

CG: Given your conclusions about 9/11, do you have suspicions about the attacks in Bali, Madrid and London?

BZ: More than suspicions. In my book, I list 18 false flag operations, including Madrid and London. I also believe Bali 1 and Bali 2 were false flag ops. More recently, the trans-Atlantic exploding shampoo terror fraud was obvious from the beginning, as was the roundup of 17 “terrorist suspects” in Toronto in June of 2006.

CG: In the past, mainstream media has shown its readiness to give nominal coverage to activists and their campaigns, only to dismiss them, or reduce the concerns to just one more scare story in a barrage of manufactured news. Are you concerned this could happen with your message?

BZ: There are signs that, spurred by the inescapable imperative of news organizations to play up anniversaries in a big way, that even the mainstream is having to recognize there are a lot of people who are not on board with the official story. But after the fifth anniversary passes, there will be a tendency to once again relegate all 9/11 truth activity to the memory hole. Of course, other developments, especially one or more other horrendous false flag ops, could change the whole picture, probably much for the worse.

CG: Many people would prefer to ignore or reject your conclusions. For to take any of it seriously means more than a co-opted or complicit media; it means we are governed by monsters and there is no social contract. What do you say to the people who reject your thesis, for fear of looking into the abyss?

BZ: I sympathize with people who do not want, as you so well phrase it, to look into the abyss. It takes courage and a dedication to follow the truth wherever it may lead, however discomfiting or even threatening to the well- being of oneself and one’s family.

At the same time, I think our best chance to get out of our multiple messes is to face them squarely, take the bull by the horns and join the struggle for a safer, saner world. In a way, I agree with Bush, and with Jesus, in their stating, “You’re either with me or against me.” One of the most dispiriting things is to encounter people who say, “I know what you say is true, but I don’t intend to do anything about it.” Would they say that if their doctor diagnosed them with cancer?

CG: Do you see any chance in the near future of reversing a trend toward reduced civil rights, military expansion and global atmospheric breakdown?

BZ: If by near future you mean five years, yes. I also think that if we the people have not seriously undermined the ruling hyper-militaristic, super-deceitful, power-mad oiligarchy of ruthless greedsters, they will have declared martial law and moved to full-fledged fascism. I do not say this lightly. I mean the kind of genocidal fascism that Hitler practised. Today’s oligarchy was spawned by the same forces – runaway corporatism and ideology – that fueled Hitler’s Third Reich. We either stop them, or we, and our children – those who survive – will be living in the Fourth Reich, which may be the ultimate fate of humankind, which is not wired for survival.

As the resources run out, Earth will be a pathetic place, where a few ultra-wealthy live in fortified places, while the vast majority either die or barely survive. A successful revolution might be as unlikely as bringing the oil back. I think we have to imagine how good life on Earth could be if we smarten up and learn to live together, and how bad it could be if the present trends continue.

Remember, the present trends, or at least most of them, are toward dystopia. To overlook this is to engage in fatal denial. Denial is probably the main Achilles’ heel of the species known as Homo sapiens.

There are too many great websites to list; here are a few to get you started:

September 8-11, New York City- Be part of history. Come to NYC for the 5th anniversary of 9/11.

September 11-17, 2006, Washington, D.C. People will convene and move through the legal recourse needed to redress the government. The “War of Lies” has passed the $500 billion debt mark and 3,000 Americans are dead, along with hundreds of thousands in the nation we “saved.” Freedom and liberty have been sold out to a federal police force. All Americans have been affected by corporate and limited liability governments and municipal codes. The time has come for a change. See

Magazines: Global Outlook ( Books by David Ray Griffin: The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions; 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out; Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action

9/11 Press for Truth
Everybody’s Got to Know Sometime
The Truth & Lies of 9/11


Hard to believe NOVA would stoop that low......They have lost all credibility with that hit piece......These media puppets must be punished when the 9/11 shit hits the fan. They are as complicit as PNAC...Speaking of PNAC, when the lights go out I want William Kristol. There is something about that smirk of his......................."Every Dog Has His Day."

That's a sweet Mark Twain

That's a sweet Mark Twain quote. I've never heard that before.

TJ Weighs In

The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

Thomas Jefferson

Trying to determine what is

Trying to determine what is going on in the world by reading newspapers is like trying to tell the time by watching the second hand of a clock.
- Ben Hecht

Guess who's coming for

Guess who's coming for dinner?

WASHINGTON - President Bush will visit Ground Zero to mark the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the White House announced yesterday.

Though plans were still in the works, Bush will also make appearances at ceremonies at the 9/11 sites at the Pentagon and in western Pennsylvania, according to White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

"We have not announced all of those details yet. The one thing I can say is that the President will visit all three sites on the anniversary," Perino said.

Bush @ ground zero?

Does this mean the Feds&secret service will be there?... will they make it hard for us to go demonstrate?...

Ya think maybe "W" will come answer some simple questions for us?

See ya there George "W"


Expect a shit-load of police, and plenty of random arrests. I went to the big anti-war demonstration in NYC during the Repug convention in 2004 - A.K.A. "Guantanamo on the Hudson". It was crazy.

Barrie Zwicker Coming Too

Isn't this thread supposed to be about Barrie??? Ah well, I'm looking forward to seeing him. And the Chimpy McFlightsuit visit is sure to bring out endless masses of robocops. Should be interesting to see.

Barrie Zwicker Coming Too

Isn't this thread supposed to be about Barrie??? Ah well, I'm looking forward to seeing him. And the Chimpy McFlightsuit visit is sure to bring out endless masses of robocops. Should be interesting to see.

Chimpy McFlightsuit

Great handle for Bush..........Having him show up at Ground Zero is not what I wanted to hear. The robocops WILL be out in numbers. This could put a damper on things. I am sure this is the way it was planned. This could get ugly..............."Every Dog Has His Day."

Well, I guess this means...

... no false flags in NYC on 9/11/06, at least.

Who can help but have the tiniest concern that doing so would be a great way to decapitate a good part of the Truth movement, since many will be gathered together there...

They are at it again.

News Flash, News Flash!!!!!!! I just got this off Yahoo. Be afraid, be very afraid! Al Queda is out to get us all.
It's the same old song and dance. Don't these guys ever quit? ........................"Every Dog Has His Day."

Pentagon guru calls for

Pentagon guru calls for genocide:

Maj. Peters, formerly assigned to the Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence where he was responsible for future warfare, candidly outlines how the map of the Middle East should be fundamentally re-drawn in a new imperial endeavour designed to correct past errors. "Without such major boundary revisions, we shall never see a more peaceful Middle East," he observes, but then adds wryly: "Oh, and one other dirty little secret from 5,000 years of history: Ethnic cleansing works."

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What kind of question is that? How are you supposed to feel other than how you do?

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

Ask Peter Frampton.

Ask Peter Frampton.

The Secret Service at Booker Elementary: The Dog That Did Not Ba


The Secret Service at Booker Elementary: The Dog That Did Not Bark

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
-- James Madison

"Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

"I'll probably say it three more times. See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
-- George W. Bush

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower, farewell address

What are the times of the 9-11 attacks?
WTC 1 ? 8:46am
WTC 2 ? 9:02am
Pentagon ? 9:40am

lets begin with the first story or timeline the Bush/Pnac adminstration told us about 9-11
It has NORAD StandDown written all over it! but these are not my words, these
are the words of the people at the highest levels of our Govt.

Does this make sence, the acting Joint Chief of Staff Genral Richard Meyers (highest position for military personel in our govt) did not order to send up intercepts until after the Pentagon was attacked, 90 min after first known hijacked plane and nearly an hour after the first attack on the WTC at 8:46am?

Below are 5 Articles or papers that if you just read one of them will prove that
9-11 was a False Flag operation lets make that 6 with the first about
False Flag operations

An Introduction to False Flag Terror

ps I highly recomend you listen to David Ray Griffin interview and read his new

The Secret Service at Booker Elementary: The Dog That Did Not Bark
Posted Sep 2, 2006 03:01 PM PST
Category: 911

As the government thrashes around trying to prop up the 9-11 mythology, one of the questions they cannot answer and will not even attempt to answer is this one:
With a supposedly unknown number of planes flying across the nation and crashing into buildings, with Bush's presence at Booker Elementary School announced in the media three days in advance, and with an airport just four miles away, how did the United States Secret Service know that Bush was safe where he sat reading about goats? How did the United States Secret Service know that they were not making targets of all those teachers and children by keeping them in that room with the President? How did the United States Secret Service know that they did not need to drag Bush from that room and toss him into the back of his armored limousine? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW FOR A FACT that President Bush was not a target that day?

Because they knew in advance what the targets would be.

MP3 download: David Ray Griffin Shreds NORAD Tapes
Submitted by Reprehensor on Thu, 08/31/2006 - 6:51am. Dr. David Ray Griffin | FAA | Guns and Butter | NORAD
Yesterday, August 30, 2006, on KPFA's "Guns and Butter" radio program, host Bonnie Faulkner featured a new interview with David Ray Griffin: THIS IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED LISTENING. The recent Vanity Fair piece and the NORAD tapes are thoroughly deconstructed and shown to be rife with anomalies;

The NORAD Audio Tapes: Real or Faked?

Interview with Dr. David Ray Griffin regarding his most recent article, "9/11 Live or Fabricated: Do the NORAD Tapes Verify the 9/11 Commission Report?" Griffin's article, written primarily in response to Vanity Fair Magazine's, "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes" by Michael Bronner in their September 2006 issue, deconstructs the preposterous argument that NORAD was not notified by the FAA of hijacked airliners until they had struck their targets or crashed, and that the only jets the military scrambled were in response to a flight that did not exist. Griffin takes a close look at NORAD's audio tapes, on whose authenticity these claims depend.

The Failure to Defend the Skies on 9/11

....What is NORAD hiding with these conflicting notification times, and absurd "scalded ape" statements? Remarkably, it is possible that the story of fighters scrambling from Otis could be a complete fabrication. Vice-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers was the acting head of the US military on 9/11 because the Chairman was out of contact on an international flight. [Washington Post, 1/27/02] Two days after 9/11, under oath and in front of a Congressional committee, Myers was asked when the order to scramble planes was first given. He responded, "That order, to the best of my knowledge, was after the Pentagon was struck [at 9:37]." [Myers Senate Confirmation Hearing, 9/13/01] If true, the claim that fighters were ordered scrambled at 8:46 is incorrect by almost one hour! This idea was not simply Myers's confused recollection. The next day, NORAD spokesman Marine Corps Major Mike Snyder also claimed that no fighters were scrambled until after the Pentagon was hit. Only then did the military realize the scope of the attack and order fighters into the air. [Boston Globe, 9/15/01 (D)] NORAD's current story of two fighters being scrambled at 8:46 was first reported on CBS Evening News on September 14, hours after Snyder agreed with Myers's assertions. [CBS, 9/14/01] But even after that, in early October 2001, NORAD commander General Ralph Eberhart stated, "We did not anticipate this threat would take off from inside the United States and it would be a matter of double-digit minutes" to respond. [AP, 10/7/01] So in other words, even though NORAD fighters were supposed to be able to take to the sky within 15 minutes of being ordered to do so, NORAD claimed it was unable to respond unless it was warned more than an hour (or does he mean 99 minutes?) in advance!.....

Flights 11, 175, 77, and 93: The 9/11 Commission's Incredible Tales

The First Version of the Official Story

On 9/11, however, that did not happen. Why not? Where was the military? The military's first answer was given immediately after 9/11 by General Richard Myers, then the Acting Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Mike Snyder, a spokesman for NORAD. They both said, independently, that no military jets were sent up until after the strike on the Pentagon. That strike occurred at 9:38, and yet American Airlines Flight 11 had shown two of the standard signs of hijacking, losing both the radio and the transponder signal, at 8:15. This means that procedures that usually result in an interception within "10 or so minutes" had not been carried out in 80 or so minutes.

That enormous delay suggested that a stand-down order, canceling standard procedures, must have been given. Some people started raising this possibility.

Peer-Reviewed Paper

The Destruction of the World Trade Center:
Why the Official Account Cannot Be True
David Ray Griffin

It made the cover of common

It made the cover of common dreams magazine!

New al-Qaeda Tape

Google for the name of the expert named in the story...

... and find out who Laura Hamilton is.

Laura Mansfield

It's Laura Mansfield.

WOW!! uTube is now censoring

WOW!! uTube is now censoring my posts and will only "allowing it after approval".

America? Free speech!! DONT make me laugh!!!!
We lost all free speech when that BASTARD Bush/cheyney/rummer/wolfy started 911.

Better say what you want quickly cos your mouth is gonna be zipped up soon!


Stand for SOMETHING...or you'll fall for ANYTHING!!

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The link for citizens court under the Zwicker interview is incorrect. It should be: