Why The 9/11 Conspiracies Won't Go Away

Keep your eyes open for this statement as they try to marginalize the effects of Loose Change and the 9/11 Truth Movement:

And what are the chances that an operation of such size--it would surely have involved hundreds of military and civilian personnel--could be carried out without a single leak? Without leaving behind a single piece of evidence hard enough to stand up to scrutiny in a court? People, the feds just aren't that slick. Nobody is.

Nobody is??? Apparently Osama Bin Laden is since the FBI themselves stated there is no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the attacks.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304-1,00.html

Take a look, if you can stand it, at video footage of the World Trade Center collapsing. Your eye will naturally jump to the top of the screen, where huge fountains of dark debris erupt out of the falling towers. But fight your natural instincts. Look farther down, at the stories that haven't collapsed yet.

In almost every clip you'll see little puffs of dust spurting out from the sides of the towers. There are two competing explanations for these puffs of dust: 1) the force of the collapsing upper floors raised the air pressure in the lower ones so dramatically that it actually blew out the windows. And 2) the towers did not collapse from the impact of two Boeing 767s and the ensuing fires. They were destroyed in a planned, controlled demolition. The dust puffs you see on film are the detonations of explosives planted there before the attacks.

People who believe the second explanation live in a very different world from those who believe the first. In world No. 2, al-Qaeda is not responsible for the destruction of the World Trade Center. The U.S. government is. The Pentagon was not hit by a commercial jet; it was hit by a cruise missile. United Flight 93 did not crash after its occupants rushed the cockpit; it was deliberately taken down by a U.S. Air Force fighter. The entire catastrophe was planned and executed by federal officials in order to provide the U.S. with a pretext for going to war in the Middle East and, by extension, as a means of consolidating and extending the power of the Bush Administration.

The population of world No. 2 is larger than you might think. A Scripps-Howard poll of 1,010 adults last month found that 36% of Americans consider it "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that government officials either allowed the attacks to be carried out or carried out the attacks themselves. Thirty-six percent adds up to a lot of people. This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality.

Although the 9/11 Truth Movement, as many conspiracy believers refer to their passion, has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, it is flourishing on the Internet. One of the most popular conspiracy videos online is Loose Change, a 90-min. blizzard of statistics, photographs, documents, eyewitness accounts and expert testimony set to a trippy hip-hop backbeat. It's designed to pick apart, point by point, the conventional narrative of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001.

For all its amateur production values--it was created by a pair of industrious twentysomethings using a laptop, pizza money and footage scavenged from the Internet--Loose Change is a compelling experience. Take the section about the attack on the Pentagon. As the film points out--and this is a tent-pole issue among 9/11 conspiracists--the crash site doesn't look right. There's not enough damage. The hole smashed in the Pentagon's outer wall was 75 ft. wide, but a Boeing 757 has a 124-ft. wingspan. Why wasn't the hole wider? Why does it look so neat?

Experts will tell you that the hole was punched by the plane's fuselage, not its wings, which sheared off on impact. But then what happened to the wings? And the tail and the engines? Images of the crash site show hardly any of the wreckage you would expect from a building that's been rammed by a commercial jet. The lawn, where the plane supposedly dragged a wing on approach, is practically pristine. The plane supposedly clipped five lampposts on its way in, but the lampposts in question show surprisingly little damage. And could Hani Hanjour, the man supposedly at the controls, have executed the maneuvers that the plane performed? He failed a flight test just weeks before the attack. And Pentagon employees reported smelling cordite after the hit, the kind of high explosive a cruise missile carries.

There's something empowering about just exploring such questions. Loose Change appeals to the viewer's common sense: it tells you to forget the official explanations and the expert testimony, and trust your eyes and your brain instead. It implies that the world can be grasped by laymen without any help or interference from the talking heads. Watching Loose Change, you feel as if you are participating in the great American tradition of self-reliance and nonconformist, antiauthoritarian dissent. You're fighting the power. You're thinking different. (Conspiracists call people who follow the government line "sheeple.") "The goal of the movie was just really to get out there and show that there are alternate stories to what the mainstream media and the government will tell you," says Korey Rowe, 23, who produced the movie. "That 19 hijackers are going to completely bypass security and crash four commercial airliners in a span of two hours, with no interruption from the military forces, in the most guarded airspace in the United States and the world? That to me is a conspiracy theory."

It's also not much of a story line. As a narrative, the official story that the government--echoed by the media--is trying to sell shows an almost embarrassing lack of novelistic flair, whereas the story the conspiracy theorists tell about what happened on Sept. 11 is positively Dan Brownesque in its rich, exciting complexity. Rowe and his collaborator, Dylan Avery, 22, actually started writing Loose Change as a fictional screenplay--"loosely based around us discovering that 9/11 was an inside job," Rowe says--before they became convinced that the evidence of conspiracy was overwhelming. The Administration is certainly playing its part in the drama with admirable zeal. If we went to war to root out fictional weapons of mass destruction, is staging a fictional terrorist attack such a stretch?

But there's a big problem with Loose Change and with most other conspiracy theories. The more you think about them, the more you realize how much they depend on circumstantial evidence, facts without analysis or documentation, quotes taken out of context and the scattered testimony of traumatized eyewitnesses. (For what it's worth, the National Institute of Standards and Technology has published a fact sheet responding to some of the conspiracy theorists' ideas on its website, www.nist.gov. The theories prompt small, reasonable questions that demand answers that are just too large and unreasonable to swallow. Granted, the Pentagon crash site looks odd in photographs. But if the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile, then what happened to American Airlines Flight 77? Where did all the real, documented people on it go? Assassinated? Relocated? What about eyewitnesses who saw a plane, not a missile? And what are the chances that an operation of such size--it would surely have involved hundreds of military and civilian personnel--could be carried out without a single leak? Without leaving behind a single piece of evidence hard enough to stand up to scrutiny in a court? People, the feds just aren't that slick. Nobody is.

There are psychological explanations for why conspiracy theories are so seductive. Academics who study them argue that they meet a basic human need: to have the magnitude of any given effect be balanced by the magnitude of the cause behind it. A world in which tiny causes can have huge consequences feels scary and unreliable. Therefore a grand disaster like Sept. 11 needs a grand conspiracy behind it. "We tend to associate major events--a President or princess dying--with major causes," says Patrick Leman, a lecturer in psychology at Royal Holloway University of London, who has conducted studies on conspiracy belief. "If we think big events like a President being assassinated can happen at the hands of a minor individual, that points to the unpredictability and randomness of life and unsettles us." In that sense, the idea that there is a malevolent controlling force orchestrating global events is, in a perverse way, comforting.

You would have thought the age of conspiracy theories might have declined with the rise of digital media. The assassination of President John F. Kennedy was a private, intimate affair compared with the attack on the World Trade Center, which was witnessed by millions of bystanders and television viewers and documented by hundreds of Zapruders. You would think there was enough footage and enough forensics to get us past the grassy knoll and the magic bullet, to create a consensus reality, a single version of the truth, a single world we can all live in together.

But there is no event so plain and clear that a determined human being can't find ambiguity in it. And as divisive as they are, conspiracy theories are part of the process by which Americans deal with traumatic public events like Sept. 11. Conspiracy theories form around them like scar tissue. In a curious way, they're an American form of national mourning. They'll be with us as long as we fear lone gunmen, and feel the pain of losses like the one we suffered on Sept. 11, and as long as the past, even the immediate past, is ultimately unknowable. That is to say, forever.

but only 19 Arabs

And what are the chances that an operation of such size--it would surely have involved hundreds of military and civilian personnel

But only 19 Arabs could do what hundreds of our personnel would be required to do.... SURELY. Jeezus.

And, I can't help but comment on the title: Why the 9/11 conspiracies won't go away. As if they're some sort of disease. Or, as if the official version isn't a conspiracy?

like thermite

according to the NIST: it would have taken tons and tons of termite and explosives packed in the towers to bring them down. Then i ask how come 2 planes with some jet fuel were enough? It doesn't fit. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit (OBL).

Dammit Greg thats a good

Dammit Greg thats a good point!

You can't dismiss the amount

You can't dismiss the amount of destructive energy in the impact...

missing Frank DeMartini

Yep but you know what Frank A. Demartini (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/people/2460.html), the one who knew the WTC in and out, said: "...could sustain multiple jetliner impacts....it really does nothing to the structure...". I wish&pray he'd still be alive. He would shed quite some light on the NIST lies.

or that most of the fuel

or that most of the fuel burned up on impact... maybe reforming to destroy each juncture of steel beams at just the right moment to allow for near-free fall collapse? magic-fuel theory? why not?

It's funny how there's no

It's funny how there's no comment section after the article.

I can't hear any other explanation

why we were "conspiracy theorists" and need alternative world views. It sickens me.

Now it's a kind of illness, a disease, an obession, we want order in chaotic world, then simpler explantions, then more sophistacted explanations...

NOT!

We are here and not going away because the truth about what happened that fateful day and who was responsible was yet not told!

In the spirit of all the

In the spirit of all the media coverage of 9/11 skepticism lately, I wonder what exotic psychological syndromes plague all these people in denial about 9/11 being an inside job! I guess in this over-complex universe, they just need simple explanations, where outside enemies no matter how contrived are always responsible for bad things. There is a long paranoid tradition for this in American society. There's no arguing with this, perhaps we should not dignify it with debate, since the inside job denialists are expressing an inner need, they already have their conclusion and no evidence to the contrary affects them, when their absurd statements are contradicted they go ahead and construct alternative scenarios with the same conclusions etc. etc.

haha. nice one NL! what a

haha. nice one NL! what a disgusting, condescending little piece of propaganda. soon arrogant scum like the author of that article are gonna be forced to wear their smugness upside down in public so that anyone who feels like it can give them a kick up the ass when they pass...

They're Running Scared

NOTHING BUT SIMPLE MINDED PROPAGANDA.

NO ADDRESSING OF THE MAJOR POINTS IN DETAIL.

THIS IS DAMAGE CONTROL AND ALSO PROOF THAT WE DON'T NEED THE MAJOR MEDIA TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

LETS CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS AND EVEN STEP UP THE ACTION A NOTCH.

IF NOTHING ELSE, 9/11 HAS REVEALED WHAT A RIGGED AND CONTROLLED PARADIGM WE HAVE LIVED IN.

The rest of the Time (s)hit piece

It get's worse. Check out Time's attempt at "Setting The Record Straight." This article is so bad, surely a member of the U.S. government must have paid them a lot of money to publish it:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531315,00.html

TIME MAGAZINE *IS* THE

TIME MAGAZINE *IS* THE GOVERNMENT

THIS IS CLEARLY DAMAGE CONTROL

"THE FACTS: A few critical

"THE FACTS: A few critical elements--including damage on the south face, unusual structural design to accommodate a Con Edison substation, extreme weight bearing on floors, and long-burning diesel fuel leaked from large emergency generators--compromised WTC 7's structural integrity. The draft report is expected in early 2007."

So they already know all that, although the draft report, not to mention the final one, is a long way from being published.

I'm beginning to wonder if NIST will ever come up with a final report.

Another straw man

Another straw man attack...They always focus on the pentagon and never mention the more compelling evidence such as building 7. This was a total un fair hit peice!

Let's be thankful

The first two-thirds of the article are really very even-handed - maybe people won't read to the end to see his dismissive analysis. I wrote to Mr. Grossman and thanked him for the article, for his even-handed approach in the first part and admonished him about his judgemental ending statements.

The weblinks on the Time site are representative of both sides of the issue and have a brief description of the bias of each of the sites.

I think we should be thankful for getting this much coverage and encourage him to do more. As they say, all press is good press....

The focus is suspiciously

The focus is suspiciously still on the Pentagon. I don't have to wonder why there were no links to Hoffman's WTC 7 research. Anyone new examining the links Time provided will only see in depth the OTC viewpoint regarding WTC 7.

--
The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

Agree with Steve

I Agree with Steve, the first portion of the article is as even handed as one could ask for; the end is a condescending opinion.

To me, this article is good news. I, personally, am celebrating. We're on the cover of TIME! Two weeks ago they published a cover story about Oliver Stones new movie and didn't even MENTION the movement, and now we're on the cover!

Getting all hot-headed because they don't agree is a waste of our efforts. Large portions of the population are going to be resistant to this reality for a long time. Lets be patient with them. They'll come around.

75' WIDE????

Let's not go to the 16'-18' wide fact!A 75' hole in the pentagon?
I pray the truth be known.

Thinking????

It's been five years.I wonder if their draging their feet hopeing to make convincing enough photo's to fool the experts.
My point being.Remember Popular Mechanic's saying they had seen photo's of a 25% of building #7 damaged from the so called collapse of the north tower.
The photo's you or i are'nt allowed to see.
Iam trying to decide what pisses me off more.What they did,or insulting my IQ.

Why the Truth Won't Go Away

- Because lies don't make the truth go away.

- Because those guilty of mass murder and those guilty of covering up for mass murderers haven't been brought to justice yet.

I'm itchin' for treason trials...

"People, the feds just

"People, the feds just aren't that slick. Nobody is."

Most people think that the government is highly inefficient and wastful because they may not be aware of multiple facets of any government project. In any government project, their could be secret objectives and agendas being met that are unknown to most of CONgress, project designers and those charged with implementation, and certainly the snoozing public.

While theft most assuredly was involved in part of the missing trillions from the DOD, I have no doubt that much of that "missing" was spent on black ops.

I'd say that's slicker than owl shit.

--
The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001

New SF Chron article - Not too shabby

Sunday, September 3, 2006 (SF Chronicle)
THE CONSPIRACY TO REWRITE 9/11/Conspiracy theorists insist the U.S. government, not terrorists, staged the devastating attacks
Jonathan Curiel, Chronicle Staff Writer
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/03/INGR0KRCB...

Keep em coming MSM whoars

Gee I wonder why they didnt mention building 7, this is awesome though, right now we are being bombarded by the corporate media, why now, 5 years later, why not two or three years ago the corporate media is running scared, where winning there losing no buts about it.

-Live Free Or Die

How about the victims and their families???

I'm so sick of all these stupid conspiracy theories. This is pure anti-Bush propaganda bullshit. Just like the movie from that big fat stupid white man named Micheal Moore who once said "There is no terrorist threat." Yeah right. Moron.

How about paying tribute to the 3,000 victims who died that day instead. I don't think their families care about all that bullshit.

Nicely stated "Fred". Lol.

Nicely stated "Fred". Lol. Now go take your rittalen and try not to poke your eyes out with a fork. In the meantime there are thinking people about who wish to expose mass murder.

Yawn...

I like to see press for truth to shut your mouth...

See 9/11 Press for Truth

and then comment here. Otherwise, STFU. You dishonor the people who died that day with your idiocy.

Yeah Right

I see...

dude, stop watching fox

dude, stop watching fox news, stop believing what they tell you is the "real" reason these theories exist... it isn't "anti-bush" motivated, it's honest freethinking - trust me, i'm no democrat. i'm a Freedom loving Patriot, but i understand Freedom means thinking for yourself.. not letting fox news tell you what to think.

i completely agree with

i completely agree with you... you don't think.

"I don't think their families care about all that bullshit."

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

Respected Leaders and Families Launch 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation into the Events of 9/11

I wish I had a subscription to Time

So I could wipe my ass with it and send it back marked CANCEL!!!

official Story

Many in the US will be astonished they believed the Gov. Story when 9/11 blows wide open, anyone with common sense knows it is'nt possible.

australian documentary on 9/11 coming up

Shadowplay Download link

http://shadowplay.info/shadow.rm

BTW

have a look what great
response LOOSE CHANGE had in Germany:

http://www.bushtrash.com/911/

9/11 Truth Activists-You MADE this happen!

9/11 Truth Hits Main Stream Media

Cathy Garger

3 September 2006

It has officially happened. After five long years, the topic of 9/11 truth has grown so large that it finally made the front cover of TIME Magazine. When the mainstream media realizes that news harmful to the Empire can no longer be ignored? It must now do its real job and work full-time in order to showcase, spin, and thoroughly marginalize the issue.

The same thing just recently occurred with Uranium Weapons (mis-named Depleted Uranium or DU) as it was recently featured by the Associated Press. The slanted, only partial-truth media coverage of the use of these radioactive Uranium Weapons that are causing devastating health effects on our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq is but another example of how the media tries to do "damage control" on these subjects that are dangerous to the Empire - as they have become "hot" topics (pardon the expression) out in everyday, normal conversation. Banking on the fact that most Americans do not get their news from alternative media, people are thus likely to continue to believe the governments' and mainstream media' reporters', newscasters', and movie-makers' versions of these stories. Or, so hope the domestic evil-doers in power.

The TIME article must be read and studied as a stunning example of how the propaganda spin machine works to marginalize truth that can be devastating to the Empire. It is apparent after reading this piece that writers simply do not make it through the doors of TIME and other major media venues without the requisite obedience to the DC power holders inside the Beltway. This particular TIME writer fully cooperates with the keepers of the 9/11 "official story" by delving into the psychology of why 9/11 truth activists make the claims they do in order to hold onto such "comforting" concepts such as a "malevolent controlling force orchestrating global events".

Talk about a bass ackwards explanation of why 9/11 truth activists do what we do! Just go ahead and ask any person who has woken up to the fact that 9/11 is an inside job if s/he has been "comforted" by this research and see what kind of look you get. From someone who has spoken to countless numbers who have woken up to 9/11 truth, I know with great certainty that had he bothered to actually ask? This TIME reporter would have gotten any word other than "comfort" as a description of what actually happens to the psyche of the awakened!

If Grossman had done his homework, instead of using the word "comforting" to describe the reality of the truth behind 9/11, he would have chosen a word such as shock, outrage, horror, nauseating disgust - and that's just for starters! It is apparent that such a condescending approach and ungrounded statement was made by someone who had clearly not spoken with many who had experienced the devastating horror of learning that 9/11 was an inside job, as well as one who was fully cognizant that he would be receiving a tidy reward commensurate with his obedience to the official lie-keepers.

As Lev Grossman writes: "People who believe the second explanation live in a very different world from those who believe the first....This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality." On that point, Grossman's absolutely right. Our worlds are indeed different - forever changed - once we discover the horrible truths behind these lies. And articles like this that re-iterate the many lies told to us by our government and the 9/11 Commission only serve to make us learn the actual facts that disprove the "official story" a little bit better - and spread them out just a little bit wider.

So to all those who know the official 9/11 story is a lie and have spread these truths far and wide? Let's give credit where credit is due. If we had not been doing what we do, the necessity of TIME doing such a necessary spin piece would never have become a reality! Certainly no thanks to the mainstream media, it is because of the efforts of ordinary people who know the truth and who do not keep it to ourselves that the likes of TIME and FOX News now have no choice but to be forced to continue to de-bunk 9/11 "conspiracy" theories.

The more effective that we are, the more the media and the talking puppet heads in power will have to spin! And the more often they bring up the so-called 9/11 "conspiracy" stories? The more the still un-knowing will become curious upon hearing these intriguing things and then start to do the research for themselves... just like all of us, the previously un-knowing, did at one point in time for ourselves.

Make no mistake about this. The truth - about the mass murder of 2,800 five years ago - has now hit the proverbial fan and can no longer be ignored. And, just like a genie's bottle, once it has been opened? The entire issue of 9/11 lies has escaped right out of the bottle and can never again be put back in. The so-called "conspiracy" theories around 9/11 have been released forevermore. And thanks to the efforts of 9/11 truth tellers everywhere? As these articles receive more and more press, the questions and doubts concerning what Americans were told about that day will only continue to grow.

http://mytown.ca/garger/

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