MetroActive Interviews Dr. David Ray Griffin

Unquestioned Answers - Nonconspiracy theorist David Ray Griffin takes aim at the official 9/11 story

ABOUT 10 years ago, I was asked to perform comedy at a conference I quickly dubbed "the Paranoids Conference." Each presenter had a dark tale to tell of abductions, drug running, assassinations and other nefarious horrors too terrible to mention. There were whispers of government agents in our midst, so when it was my turn to perform, I said I was with the CIA. I paused while the audience gasped. "That's the Comedians Institute of America." It got a laugh, but no amount of laughter could counterbalance the toxicity of the atmosphere. I couldn't wait to leave.

Fast-forward to a sunny Sunday afternoon early last year when I found myself in Santa Rosa's Church of the Rose to hear Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of a book on the 9/11 attacks called The New Pearl Harbor, as well as The 9-11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. Griffin, a soft-spoken retired professor of theology with sandy, graying hair, proceeded to calmly and quietly dismantle the official 9/11 story. The room was filled to standing with people of all ages, many of whom attended the church. As Griffin made his case for how the official story could never have happened the way they said it did, I looked around me. Everyone was riveted, and yet I could detect no fear, no paranoia in the room.

People were hearing his message—the essentials of which are that our government likely knew about or had something to do with the 9/11 attacks—and yet there was something about his delivery that was reassuring. I've heard David Ray Griffin twice since then, once at a small gathering of world government advocates, the other time at the prestigious Commonwealth Club in San Francisco. Each event had a similar ambience: a calm, thoughtful, scholarly presentation without the least hint of sensationalism or personal glory.

Whatever one's assumption of what a "conspiracy theorist" is like, David Ray Griffin doesn't fit the mold, perhaps because he's really a nonconspiracy theorist. While he methodically deconstructs the official story, he doesn't spin his own alternative yarn to fill the vacuum. Instead, he allows audience members to draw their own conclusions. As for conspiracy theories, he explains, "the official story is itself a conspiracy theory. As the accepted 'conspiracy theory' goes, a cadre of Al Qaeda operatives conspired to hijack four jetliners, did so undetected and were able to complete their mission with no interception or even interference from the best-prepared air force on the face of the earth."'

Be sure to follow the link for the full interview.

Big thanks to Jon Gold for the heads up!

? This article is from the June 14-20 Issue

Radical Pragmatist

This article is from the June 14-20 Issue of metro-active. It is still one of my favorites, but why are you posting this now?

911blogger even posted a request from the author to promote this article to other publication,s about two weeks ago.

Just wondering?

(P.S See you all in New York on Saturday)

Paul Watson rips Nico the shill.

Paul Joseph Watson wrote:

Your argument neccesitates that every amateur photographer and videographer that filmed the second plane hitting on the streets of New York, from distant apartment blocks, and from across the bridge were all CIA plants who edited their footage to exactly the same specifications.

Do you honestly think every single person recording this event was working for the government?

Do you honestly think that eyewitnesses would not come forward saying it was not a plane?

You can post my response if you want but I refuse to even debate this any further because it's manifestly absurd and it is hurtng the otherwise legitimate 9/11 truth movement which rightly focuses on the PROVEN smoking gun - controlled demolition.

No rational thinking person is going to look at your so-called evidence for more than 2 minutes without concluding it's run of the mill conspiracy crap and the Popular Mechanics of this world will lap it up forever and a day to debunk all of us.

Best regards, Paul Joseph Watson.

Actually i posted Watson's

Actually i posted Watson's personal email to me already this afternoon and responded here:

oh my god you stupid son of

oh my god you stupid son of a bitch, where the fuck do you think i got it? jesus your slow.

Will they ever learn...

Why does everyone keep running away from the term 'conspiracy theorist'? It's not like they're going to stop calling us that! A conspiracy is a secret agreement between two or more people which seeks to do something wrong or unlawful to a third group or person. A theory is the analysis of a set of related facts. We've all heard David Ray Griffin say 9/11 was likely an inside job, which is (stop doublethink now) a conspiracy theory by the very definition of the term. The establishment and media used the subculture of the 1960's to give the term 'conspiracy theorist' it's negative connotation - MK-ULTRA biproducts telling everyone that the government is out to get them. Since then, the label has been used as a powerful weapon in the arsenal of the elite. We need to take that power away from them. People used to think 'conspiracy theory' and then automatically reject the idea. 9/11 is changing all that. Sometimes I really wonder how much research some of these people have done when they're so quick to run away when called a conspiracy theorist. I welcome it. I theorize about conspiracies, I analyze sets of facts which all point to people plotting secretly to commit crimes. I'm a 'conspiracy theorist'. If people in the truth movement continue to let the term have the negative power and connotation that it does, it will continue to be used against us. 9/11 was a conspiracy and we all have our theories as to what exactly happened. I can already hear someone saying, "but it's not a conspiracy if you can prove it." Stop for a minute and think about that statement... it really makes no sense - conspiracies are proven in court all the time. We need to stop allowing the term 'conspiracy theorist' to have the negative power it does. The term needs to evolve and be recreated in our own image. We need to embrace the label... because, after all, we ARE right!

I can already hear someone

I can already hear someone saying, "but it's not a THEORY if it can be proven." Again, makes no sense. In science, a theory is a law, not a hypothesis.

a Theory is not a Law

in science or anywhere else. hit the books dude!


"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

Einstein's Theory of

I didn't mean legally...

Scientists seem to be using

Scientists seem to be using Einstein's Theory of Relativity pretty precisely!

that's not the point

Newton's laws were very precise until the measuremnts became more precise. Einstein's theory has not been disproven but neither has it been confirmed beyond doubt. It also is incomplete in that it does not unify gravity with the other fundamental forces (electro-magnetism, strong force, weak force)


"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers


Einstein spent most of his life looking for a unified field theory or the theory of everything as some like to call it. He was not sucessfull in his quest. Today scientists think they have unified the four forces of nature in string theory but string theory can never be proven because strings are too small to be observed or tested. What this has to do with 9/11 truth I don't know but it is interesting.

Right back at you!

Right back at you!

I like the Round Earth

I like the Round Earth theory too.

there you go again

the earth is not a perfect sphere as was once believed. it is flattish at the nort and south poles due to its spin. but hey, what do i know! anyway, what is your point? that building 7 collapsed because... um... still working on a theory on that one?


"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

By the way, where did I

By the way, where did I mention building 7?!?

Sorry, long day. Basically

Sorry, long day. Basically what I was getting at is that a theory is not something that is unproveable. Sidenote: sure, relativity works big, quantum theory works small - not complete, but they both work perfectly.

Oh crap! I'm new here, I've

Oh crap! I'm new here, I've tried to stay away from message boards for a while. I didn't realize who you were...

The Law of GAL

My god, I can't believe this. Here's a law fo you - get stop #$@%&ing around on the internet, go out and and get a life!

BTW - that was aimed at all

BTW - that was aimed at all of you. Wasn't just picking on you, CT.

eh.. me too, idn't mean to turn all argumentative anyway!


"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

9/11 Truth Movement

The term "conspiracy theorists" is routinely used to belittle and patronize those of us who are seeking the truth of what happened on 9/11.

While we can formulate theories based on facts and evidence, the truth of the matter is we really do not know exactly what happened. Most of us, still hope that the theories will some how be proven wrong. For example, I would love for them to present clear video evidence that a passenger plane actually did strike the pentagon. Why havn't they done it? These are the questions that force us to form theories.

But again, our mission is not to formulate theories. Our mission is to know the truth. Therefore, the label "9/11 Truth Movement" says alot more about who we are and what we are about.

Conspiracy Theorists really doesn't cut it. I hope that explains it.

They're still gonna call you

They're still gonna call you a Conspiracy Theorist!

Who did 9/11?

Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone.

How did they do 9/11?

With a single bullet from Osama Bin Oswald's rifle.

introducing another view

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