"New" Video Purports to Show Bin Laden and Hijackers Planning 9/11

I don't think the video is available yet on the Web, but here's an announcement.

There are 3 possibilities:

(1) The video is fake (look-alikes or manipulated audio or video);

(2) Its real, but Bin Laden and the hijackers are all patsies hired to play their part; or

(3) These guys really did attack us on 9/11, but the U.S. government let it happen, "helped" the Towers (and WTC7) fall down, etc.

Its up to us to find out which it is.

Update: Find the video clip here.

notice the pictures in the backround?

Looks alot like picture of the fireball that really occured...wonder how they managed this remarkable coincidence.

They spred the info over the

They spred the info over the world !

They realy think we are all dum stupids !!!


"La chaîne d'information Al-Jazira a diffusé aujourd'hui un enregistrement vidéo qui présente le chef du réseau terroriste Al-Qaïda en compagnie de plusieurs des terroristes qui ont détourné des avions de ligne le 11 septembre 2001.
La chaîne du Qatar affirme que cet enregistrement est inédit.

Les attentats du 11 septembre 2001 avaient fait près de 3000 morts et provoqué la destruction des tours jumelles du World Trade Center de New york."

They didn't

That was superimposed on the background later. You can see it.


And I thought, I'm the only one who thought that this is really weird. Even if it is superimposed afterwards, somebody alternated and manipulated the "original" material. And no, I can't see any planning of an attack. It looks like a re-cut of already archived material.

If Al Jazeera....

If the U.S. knows Al Jazeera has all these tapes, wouldn't they have been the first place the U.S. raided in an effort to get more 'evidence'?

I can't believe people buy this crap hook, line and sinker, just because the talking heads delivering the message speak with gravitas and wear nice clothing.

Wake up - it's coming.

Al-Jazeera = CIA propaganda channel

Bush wanted to 'bomb Al-Jazeera' according to news reports, so this "seems" like they were genuine enemys of Bush.
But just take a look at their news at http://english.aljazeera.net how mainstream it all is, just as if it were CNN. Then take a look at *real* arabic news sites, who bash Israel all the time, and have spoken in favour of 9/11 truth as well: http://www.aljazeerah.info

Another convenient 'news story' from Al CIA-EERAH

It wouldn't surprise me if Al Jazeerah had been brought out. It's owned by individuals resident in the cash rich state of Qatar. Money rules and there is plenty of that in the CIA war chest to buy off news firms like Al-Jazeerah.

Actually the video (viewable on the BBC website) has some expert talking all the way through it and over it to the side of the actual video, giving up an expert opinion/psy-op. So it's hard to judge the video.

I just think the release of the video coincides with the recent white house and main stream media propaganda mobilisation and offensive in an attempt to prop-up the collapsing official 9/11 conspiracy theory.

EVERY "terrorist" tape comes from AL Jazeera

And yet we never hear of the efforts to use Al Jazeera to catch the makers. Bush only said he wanted to bomb al Jazeera to make it seem like he hated them. Look, it's obvious what's going on--just take everything the mainstream spits out, see what is implied or insinuated, and 99% of the time, the opposite is true.


"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

no evidence

What is Bin Laden 'planning' on this video? I don't get it.
The only 'evidence' is the alleged hijackers, as told by the (post 9/11) imposed messages of the video.
This is like the recent Zawahiri video: it had photographs of the WTC fireball in the background, while he was talking about Iraq. No need to explain why - Bush wants this message out.

they're getting desparate if

they're getting desparate if this is the only thing the neocons have to offer. Maybe their paymasters have quit them.

Al Jazerra ?

Al Jazerra ?
Who dey?
Funded & set up by MI5, dats who.
But Bush was too stupid to know this which is why he wanted to bomb 'em & dats why Blair objected.
All ties together, when you know ;)


Since were never were any Arab "hijackers", this video simply doesn't matter.

Wail al-Shehri is the same guy interviewd by the BBC after 9/11:

Sunday, 23 September, 2001,
Hijack ’suspects’ alive and well

Look For...

Stories of authentication.

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

Jon, what

do you mean by "stories of authentication"?

Take a look...


"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

the 'terror industry' has

the 'terror industry' has 'authenticated' a diverse collection of different Osamas as being one and the same, such as this one: http://northcoastcafe.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/osama.jpg

The question is, who is it this time. From the screenhots at foxnews, it seems to be the same fake as in 2004.


NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE TV FAKERY EVIDENCE ANYLONGER? They will systematically take the legs out from under everything this 9/11 truth movement is banking on, if we allow the TV Fakery smoking gun to go unexposed.


Who Benefits?

Releasing a tape of Bin Laden talking to the alleged hijackers 4 days before the 5th anniversary benefits who?

"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

Hey, do you think you could


do you think you could put a -- or something above your signature? The quote's cool and all, but I always start reading it before I realize it's a signature.

"banana banana"

same here -- Jon, that

same here -- Jon, that signature is cool, BUT it's annoying to have to wade thru it each time

fake Osama doesn't meen he

fake Osama doesn't meen he is CGI. It means they used an actor. This is pretty primitive 'technology' to produce a fake.

But about CGI planes - it can be, let's leave this option open, after all we don't know the truth for sure. But i disagree that TV fakery of planes is important.

Planehuggers have the Boeings swapped and flown like a cruise missile from a military base into the WTC, which is then blown up. No-Planers have the image of Boeings projected on TV screens to cover the deliberate blowing up of the WTC.
- so, can't we just find common ground here: 1. The govt. is lying about why they weren't intercepted or radar-tracked. 2. they're lying about what impact the initial explosions had on the towers, why they subsequently collapsed.

You guys are not even able

You guys are not even able to analyse a simple
graphic collage into a post 9/11 production with actors
nothing related to any evidence, but it's still not important to debate the 9/11 CGI aircrafts?

Go continue watching "reality tv".
If these simple 2006 media hoaxes impresses sheeple,
get some X-Boxes and eat what you see.

You will never wake up but our support grows,
even if still oppressed by some orwellian matrix truthlings.


Your support grows?

I can tell by all the comments posted to your blogs.

Wow your theories sure are popular.

The comments do not include

The comments do not include any debunkery, just meaningless drivel and helpless insults.

You need the list of supporters again?

81 which signed our petition so far,
including 16 9/11 Scholars.
Plus more support by other 9/11 Scholars who didn't sign yet
(ex-member Morgan Reynolds, Judy Cunningham, Peter Myer and formerly supportive Morgan Stack who decided that his cereer as a "truth candidate" does not allow complete truth etc..)

Plus 9/11 Truth Speakers like 'Candidate' Craig Hill, Ian McFerran (UK 9/11 Truth Movement), Jimmy Walter, Rev H Thorpe Saxton, Lenny Bloom (Cloak and Daggger), Dennis Morrisseau (9/11 Truth Candidate), Ralph Charles Whitley, Sr.(decorated American Veteran of One), Thomas J Mattingly (McClendon Group/National Press Club DC) and others...

Plus many new supporters at 911blogger.com, which started their own threads or blogs.
Plus latest prominent '9/11 truth scout' David Shayler (ex-MI5)

Plus the following websites:


They all can think and watch.

And on the other side, the loudest 9/11 truthling planehuggers are becoming more and more silent against our findings.

What also happened with the silly "no-building" petition?
1 Supporter?

The NPT "speaker" opposition is actually already in the minority against the supporters of our findings.

Look, what they have in their hands against us?


Prof. "Los Alamos" Jones, Jim "HavetoaskJones" Fetzer, WING TV (in love with "photo evidence"), Chris/911blogger, Dem Bruce Styles/911blogger, Mark Bilk (only occasionally loud), Eric Hufschmid (too busy with ranting more against 'Crypto-Jews' instead against no-planes), Kyle Hence (rants when he wakes up every 4 weeks), Victoria Ashley (louder than Jim Hoffman, but only when i rarely post at 9/11Truth Alliance), Bill Douglas (usually chickens out after 2, 3 replies), Ken Jenkins ("jenk science" only on demand), Dick Eastman (is against anyone and anything anyway who is not an anti-zionist) Loose Change (too busy conspiring with the Naudet Brothers or endless RE-Re-Recuts :) Ralph Omholt (too busy with being silence at "hard evidence list), Russell Pickering (trolls only back for Bilk if he's busy), Mark Rabinowitz (? where is he)- the last 4 are not even loud enough anymore.

...Ah yes, the Salter Brothers retired from planehugging already in late 2005 -;)
The only smart guys of the planehugger crew btw.


are you scared yet agent

are you scared yet agent ewing? the 9/11 truth movement is making great progress, despite todays setback, and your tv fakery bullshit still hasnt fully discredited the movement. your losing.

Scared of what?

Scared of what?
Of you butterhead?

What MSM decides regarding 9/11 TV Fakery is in their own responsibility. So far they either completely ignored it or didn't discredit it all (The NY Villager, Salon, CanadaPost)

On the other hand the 9/11 Truth Movement and their other smoking guns are described by MSM as anti-semitic, terrorists, traitors and/or wackos.

Very positive support of MSM, isn't it?

Well, chris still doesn't know that MSM is a complete privatized arm of military and they know what they're doing and how to play this movement.

And also today there was no "setback".
This is the result of your ignorance on the evidence on 9/11 TV fakery. The script continues as it was written...

Sheeple, gatekeepers and truthlings believe what they want to believe. No setback. It's part of the brainwash plan.
The perps are still in control.

Noone is winning. There is also no competition.
Prove that i am an agent, you lousy piece of digital bugs.



butterhead? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what a fucking stooge you are. learn the language already you fucking fool.


Pipe down. He and you are together in this.

no, im all about getting to

no, im all about getting to the bottom of 9/11 and exposing people to the disturbing facts surrounding 9/11 in the most effective way, hes about sabatoging the movement and scaringpeople off with CGi garbage. no way am i in this with him.

Wow Nico, I hope you win the

Wow Nico, I hope you win the 'Truth' wars. You've shown your hand again with your childish attempts at one-up-man-ship.

U.S. ABC TV's 'The Path to 9/11'

We can't ignore the following TV fakery either.

Please go to the following website to contact the ABC TV channel to complain about the lies in this "docudrama" called 'The Path to 9/11' which is supposed to air on September 10th and September 11th just in time for the 5th anniversary of 9/11, and tell them not to air it.

It is designed to influence voters before the U.S. National Election to vote for the Republicans again and keep them in power so that Bush and cabal cannot be investigated for 9/11 or anything else.



just like the new bin laden tape. same purpose.


More ways to take action against ABC:





On topic: That's not Bin Laden. That's the same actor who is on the "confession" tape. You can tell right away just by looking at the nose.

Fourth Alternative

You neglected the most obvious alternative, the one that is consistent with the evidence and negates the first three: it actually was bin Laden's team and no one knew it was going to happen except them. Let's stick to the facts.

Consistent with what evidence?

There is none. You show me proof that OBL orchestrated 9/11.

You cant!

How about proof?

How about proof that someone else did it?

P.S. Speculation is not proof.

Speculation isn't proof, but

Speculation isn't proof, but the one actually accused should be the one proven to have done it, at least at one time somewhere.


He admitted it then. We had more confirmation today. Facts are facts.


And John Karr (or whatever his name is) admitted to killing Jon-Benet. Case closed!

Swell logic

So no one who ever admitted to a crime could possibly have done it? Swell logic, bro.

Do you have reading comprehension issues?

Or some other cognitive impairment?

George, why do you hate Muslims so much?

I mean, you believe a fake video of Bin Laden "confessing" , even after he denied it in much more obviously authentic videos, and you probably deny that Silverstein admitted to demolishing building 7 when any moron can see and hear him say it. So again I ask you, why do you hate Muslims so much that you are willing to believe them and only them capable of such a heinous crime? I think I know why do it, but I want to hear you say it...


"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

Your qualifications?

RealTruther, I would like to see your qualifications to say the video was fake and that WTC 7 was demolished. Take as much time as you need.

That's it in a nutshell

the standard troll rhetorical strategy. Thanks for posting such a clear example.

A. You say: OBL et al. did it
B. I say: Oh really? Perhaps you could show me proof.
C. You say: No, you show ME proof it was someone else.

This is not the way logical argument works. Trolls employ many variations on this strategy, but overall, it tends to boil down to this.

You have the name?

Let us know when you can name the responsible party. We're waiting.

I'll let you in on a secret

I don't know who did it. But you won't even try to prove it was OBL.

bingo, casseia

"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.

The truth is free

The truth is free.

That doesn't make any sense

If you don't know who did it, you can't say anyone has to prove OBL did it when no one can prove someone else did it. You need evidence.

Since Bin Laden was the one

Since Bin Laden was the one blamed for this its only fair that we ask you for the evidence you have to support this. Pretty fair. Instead of trying to disprove our theories , why dont you just prove the "official" one and we would all go away.


The release of this video will have some negative consequences for the Bush Administration:

1) it will remind many people that bin Laden has not been captured.

2) it may draw attention to the fact that bin Laden has not been indicted.

yes, but fear trumps all

yes, but fear trumps all that. hes much more valuable free than captured or killed.


seems fake to me. bin laden is only shown from a distance. how conveinient and the pictures in the background of the towers like its a 60 minutes news report. yep. so they sat in a cave an produced that and drew up those pictures.

just watched it

it's ridiculous, the only thing of "planning" in this video is "pocket knives" and a world map. Osama is NOT on these scenes, and the "pocket knive" hijackers are masked. Then they have this WTC-fireball and a plane in the back, the plane is a 747!!

The video can be found here

just watched it - where are

just watched it - where are the hijackers? I just saw some guys from afar walking down a mountain?


Fox news has the story platered on the front page of their site....but CNN has yet to post it.

Are they skeptical? Waiting to authenticate?

Strange Timing...

kind of strange how this video just gets found right now... days before the 5th anniversary of the 11th September, and at a time when 911 Truth is making extraordinary inroads into the public mindset over all the world....

co-incidence of course!

All things are planned

Watch out...they're watching us.

so if bin laden is the

so if bin laden is the culprit, why doesn't the fbi have a warrant out for his arrest for 911.


July 4-14, 2001: Bin Laden Reportedly Receives Lifesaving Treatment in Dubai, Said to Meet with CIA While There

He was wanted for the 1998 embassy bombing. Why didn't the CIA arrest him.

September 16, 2001: Bin Laden Denies Involvement in 9/11 Attacks
As opposed to the tape with the right handed fatter faced guy who confesses and boasts he is the 911 perp.

Late October-Early November 2001: Al-Qaeda Fighters, Bin Laden Said to Move into Jalalabad Without Hindrance

Late October-Early December 2001: Franks Ignores CIA Request to Deploy Unused US Troops to Get bin Laden

Late October-Early December 2001: Franks Ignores CIA Request to Deploy Unused US Troops to Get bin Laden

November 12, 2002: New Bin Laden Recording Could Be a Forgery

So, why couldnt Bush find Bin Laden dead or alive. Because he is not looking for him.

And why does MI5 agent Schayler talk about how MI6 tried to hire Al Qaeda to kill Kadafi. Al Qaeda were just mercenaries. MI6 was the source of this terror plot. Could the same have happened in 911. Schayler spills all the beans on this in his book which you can buy at Amazon.

Spies, Lies and Whistleblowers: M15, M16 And the Shayler Affair

And how could Bin Laden make Norad stand down. And how could he have planted the bombs that brought down wtc 7.

And how could Bin Laden have gotten former deputy director of the FBI (who had fallen out of favor with the neocons) a new job in WTC 1 on 911. Paul Oneill died in the attacks.

And how could Bin Laden lose 2 trillion dollars, as anounced by Rumsfield, on Sept 10th, 2001. Rumsfield said the Pentagon cannot account for it. But this was swallowed up by the events of the next day and not heard of again.

And how could Bin Laden destroy WTC 7 without even landing a plane in it. How did WTC 7 even collapse.

And why is the Administration absolutely reluctant in every way to give over documents about events that happened around 911. Its a complete coverup. Read Paul Thompson0s timeline. Every fourth sentence is the pentagon lawyers stopped this and the DIA stopped that and the FBI prevented this and the white house stopped that....

That someone could come and say now we throw all this away because of some bin laden tape and think that he has set us all straight about the truth, as shown by the fourth alternative commenter above, shows that 911 truthers we are up against children in this battle for truth.

Awesome Karate moves

I heard they learned them by doing chores like painting fences and waxing cars.

Seriously though this tape is absurd at best. The media are sluts.

There is another

There is another explanation: The incompetence theory. It's not the most likely explanation, but it does exist.

I disagree...

Incompetence cannot explain the pulverization of WTC1 and WTC2, or the freefall collapse of WTC7.

exactly, among other things

exactly, among other things "al qaeda" couldnt have pulled off. incomptence is for Chomskies.

I used to give Chomsky the benefit of the doubt...

But let's be perfectly honest here--there is NO way he is not knowingly protecting the perps. No way at all. He can petend to be a lot of things, but stupid as a Bushhead is not one of them. Just thought I'd vent. The man also has a patch of thick hair growing on the outside of his nose. Ugh.

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

Black Propaganda

I wonder what organization's think tank is responsible for contriving propaganda like this.

The PNAC think tank?

The PNAC think tank contriving propaganda like this?

(And yes to a previous post--there is no way Chomsky could be fooled by all of this obvious Bushit. Chomsky is deliberately protecting the NeoCons, and has been for a very long time, IMO.)


Still no coverage on cnn.com

These perps have to be

These perps have to be careful. One of these days some propaganda piece could backfire on them.

That's already happened

It's happening as we speak to Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

This video shows nothing. It

This video shows nothing. It could be the real Osama but who cares? The 'hijackers' are too far away to be distinguished (scene at the end)

So he walked down a mountain and had training camps. Everyone knows that.

Then someone (scene from behind) ate some food and some masked men played karate. How do we know who they are?

This video does not connect him to 9/11 in any way.

The close ups in the begining are those of his second in command, etc ... NOT the hijackers.

On CNN...

I see it now on their website, but it's not a main headline. Beside the video link is the caption, "9/11 Rehersal?"

Good to see they are at least questioning it.

video shows nothing

Wow, that video shows absolutely nothing. Obviously it is a propaganda news story (people just simply hear the headline and assume it shows evidence of bin laden planning 9/11). Unreal.

I Agree, Nothing!

I just watched it.
What are we supposed to be seeing?
Was there a point where someone says "Yes let's fly these planes into the towers and knock them down!"???????
Because I must have missed that.
It looked like a few video clips put together of just general anti-american talk, then showing a pocket knife and some guys doing karate.

Seriously, what were we supposed to see on this video? Where's the 9/11 planning? How do we know when this was shot? Who were the guys in the video? I want to know!

This is kinda funny

The green-screen terrorist interviews - with the planes dropped in behind them, along with pics of exploding buildings - cracks me up. Even a dork with a video toaster, circa 1990, could drop whatever they want in behind a talking head- especially since he's barely moving anything but his mouth. I'm not sure what this footage is supposed to mean or prove, but in my mind, it proves only that some guys wearing masks can do some pretty decent roundhouse kicks, Bin Laden walked around outside surrounded by a small afghan entourage, and a couple of guys talked to a camera with cheesy graphics dropped in behind them.

We should take this footage and create our own fake variants- showing them in front of the WTC center building, or standing on the lawn of the Pentagon - to drive home the point that anybody can put anybody anywhere they want.

Doesn't matter

This video doesn't matter, cause it can't be true, so effort to prove this video wrong would be useless. There is enough evidences to prove our point. They're trying to crumble us under a pile of stuff to take the attention everywhere and don't focus on one point.

Let's try to keep our focus here.
- video of WTC 7 and the two towers, and the testimony of the witnesses
- the lack of response from the US Air Force
- the governement keep changing there version, and there we must stop to try to prove them wrong. The only fact that the story keeps changing is a good proof.


Great points Fred.

You're right. This video is pretty weak.

I'd like to see a video explain the collapse of Building 7.

Video doesn't matter?

So Pentagon videos don't matter? WTC videos don't matter?

Unless it's video of WTC 7?

How do we judge which videos matter?

Okay, lads. Time to give it

Okay, lads.

Time to give it up now. It's over.

Tirn off the computer and go outside.

wishful thinking will get

wishful thinking will get you nowhere.

Democrat House Candidate A 9/11 Denier

Fake Tapes

Bin Laden is dead. All the tapes are fake. Anyone who believes this BS is a total idiot. Wake up people. The whole war on terror is bogus. The only war on terror is the war OF terror being waged by the elite on the American people and the rest of the world so they can impliment their sick New World Order. They will loose.

Time to go home and eat dinner

Shit hittin the fan, chickens comin' home, frat boys sweatin', there is hope I say


"Operated by Rob of Minot North Dakota, Say Anything Blog is one of the fastest moving and most updated blogs in Western North Dakota."

WOW! Dude I don't know if we can take this guy on... he's the blogging king of Minot!!

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

The mindlock continues. The

The mindlock continues. The official coverup of the events of September
11, 2001 remains essentially intact five years after the mind-numbing
orgy of destruction in New York and Washington.

This momentous first “foreign” attack on American soil was staged by
key players running the U.S. government on a higher level than the
president, who has by now has been exposed as a sociopathic sock
puppet. The guilt of the highest leaders in the U.S. has been
demonstrated for all to see by their concealment of evidence,
obstruction of investigations, and obvious lies explaining that day and
the subsequent carnage that has been wreaked because of them.

The brief amount of time that the towers took to fall proves the
building cores were demolished. In five years and after billions of
dollars spent “fighting terror,” the U.S. government has arrested no
one for the crimes, and in fact has spent considerable effort covering
up the evidence of treason and mass murder that has been unearthed by a
worldwide army of outraged 9/11 researchers.

My friend the Lone Eagle, an aircraft supply expert, notes that among
all the air disasters in history, 9/11 was only the time that a crashed
aircraft could not be identified by the serial numbers on its small
replaceable parts, which are seldom destroyed in any crash. And it
happened four times that day.

Yet the government told us three steel framed skyscrapers collapsed due
to fire. That also had never happened before.

Ellen Mariani is the widow of a man who supposedly lost his life on
Flight 175. She looked for relatives of other victims of that flight
and after five years of searching, she has found no one. These are
three of thousands of jarring clues that the American people are in a
significant coma about this event.

more at johnkaminski.com im not a big fan of John as he sees jews behind literally everything,and nobody else, but this article was good.

1. Doesn't matter if Osama

1. Doesn't matter if Osama approved it and his little minions are preparing for the hijacking.

THE US GOVERNMENT FUNDED IT THROUGH PAKISTAN. 28 pages redacted from the goss/graham inquiry prove that.

How come NOONE talks about the ISI? The undebunkable 100% fact that CIA sister organization Pakistani ISI heads controlled and funded the hijackers.

2. We should ALL FLOOD "liberal" blogs and forums obsessing over the ABC Path to 9/11 controversy asking them if they "REALLY WANT ABC TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT 9/11". These Clinton worshipping crybabies are pathetic, and hold on to their debunked incompetence theories like no tommorrow.

A liberal who believes it was "incompetence" is still a Bush worshipping neocon.

pocky, are you a

pocky, are you a conservative/republican by any chance?


Hey Chris, you're not keeping up. The facts don't support you at all.

Just a bit more news

this stupid bs Bin Laden tape..last night on CNN they reported that the Pakistanis are NOT going to arrest Bin Laden, cause they don't believe He had anything to do with 9/11. As long as He behaves himself, they will let him be...lol. Imagine that.
I can tell there is frustration amongst a few here and , yes I am one who feels it too. To the No-plane huggers, I have to tell you they can take these tapes and explain them away, by saying they did some editing to make it less graphic. If you ask about the originals they will do the FAA thing.."Oh, We destroyed them". So then they will just put the onus on you and say that you guys altered them to fit your claims. Come on! These Neocons are not stupid, they have covered their asses very well, someone has to come forward, someone who knows the facts. But they do not trust anyone out there, becuase of how deep the criminals are embedded into virtualy every avenue available.

Something Occured To Me...

Remember those old movies... James Bond for instance... where the good guy would meet the evil guy, and the evil guy would have his henchman... and each of them would show the good guy their "special move" in order to intimidate him?

That's what this clip reminds me of.


"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

You can tell when something is produced for a Hollywood audience

Gotta have some martial arts and guns. Now, I admit there's no sex, but the drugs are there--notice all that opium growing in the background? No? Oh yeah, I forgot--the Taliban was cracking down on opium--it's the Karzai/U.S. regime that has allowed it to flourish. Oh well.

And pockybot, you sure fixate on Pakistan because of a $100,000 wire transfer that was made by them to someone who didn't hijack a damn thing on 9/11. To their part in the scheme you must also add the rest of the SPIT crowd: (in no particular order...) Saudis Pakistan Israel Turkey. Yep, the neocons have friends all over--even Iran! Remember Iran/Contra?

So yeah, let's be equal opportunity exposers of the complicit intelligence/military services.

After biting off the TIPS, SPIT out the PITS!

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

We're not into fantasies here.

You know, that's really a silly observation. We're into evidence here not comparison to fantasy films.

It's called...

An analogy. We the people, the good guys, have seen the henchman of the bad guy, Osama, and they know Karate, so they must be very dangerous, and we must fear them.


"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

Hey, go easy on the guy

Up higher in the thread he admitted he has a cognitive impairment. At least he didn't deny it. That's the same as admitting it, right?

It's called objective reality

I hope you believe in it. Maybe you really haven't been paying attention:

Democracy is Not Synonymous With Freedom; Christianity is a Hallow Shell of a Religion

"Those who think democracy is synonymous with freedom are either people who haven't experienced life in America, or Americans who haven't lived abroad. To America and the rest of Christendom, we say: Either repent of your misguided ways and enter into the light of truth, or keep your poison to yourself, and suffer the consequences in this world and the next. But whatever you do, don't attempt to spread your misery and misguidance to our lands. Muslims don't need democracy to rid themselves of their home-grown despots and tyrants. What they do need is their Islamic faith, the spirit of Jihad, and the lifting of foreign troops and interference from their necks. And if Muslims don't need democracy, then they certainly have no need for what is known as Christianity - that hollow shell of a religion, whose followers cling to an empty faith, and a false conviction of their inevitable salvation, regardless of what they do or believe, as long as they accept the core tenets and doctrines of Paulian Christianity, which also happen to be its most unbelievable, untenable, and illogical. Like the belief that the Bible that we have today, with all its contradictions, errors, deletions, and outright fabrications, is the infallible, revealed word of God... Like the doctrine of the Original Sin, which states that Man is born in sin, because of the lapse and subsequent fall of his parents, even though we know from the Koran that God forgave our father Adam and mother Eve when they repented... Like the incomprehensible, illogical, non-biblical doctrine of Trinity... Like the belief that God sent His only begotten son, who is also God in human form, to die on a cross for the sins of mankind, which, is implied, He could otherwise not have forgiven..."


"Isn't it time for the unbelievers to discard these incoherent, illogical beliefs, theories, and conjecture? Isn't it time for every Christian, Jew, pagan, and atheist to cast off the cloak of spiritual darkness which enshrouds them, and emerge into the light of Islam, to live a life illuminated by faith and die the death of a believer, return to his Lord, pleased and pleasing to Him, God willing, rather than living out his days in blindness, to die as an unbeliever and be resurrected as an unbeliever, whose eternal abode is a fire from which the fire of this world screams in fright?"


"We invite all Americans and other unbelievers to Islam, wherever they are and whatever their role and status in Bush and Blair's world order. And we send a special invitation to all of you fighting Bush's Crusader pipe dream in Afghanistan, Iraq, and wherever else 'Dubya' has sent you to die."


"So instead of killing yourself for Bush, or killing yourself, out of despair and depression or guilt or remorse, why not surrender to the truth, escape from the unbelieving army, and join the winning side? Time is running out, so make the right choice before it is too late and you meet the dismal fate of thousands before you. And in this regard, I can't tell you how delighted I was to receive news of the embracing of Islam by a number of U.S. soldiers at the hands of the Muslim mujahideen imprisoned at some of the American concentration camps, which blacken the globe. And I ask God to benefit Islam and Muslims with them, and that He make them a role model for their comrades."

- Al-Qaeda Operative Adam Gadahn, aka 'Azzam the American'


We're not into fantasies here.

You know, that's really a silly observation. We're into evidence here not comparison to fantasy films.

this thread is not about evidence

it is about a fake "terrorist" video that SOME people want others to take as serious evidence. not gonna happen--we're laughing them all the way to a war crimes tribunal. Period. End of story. Got questions? Ask the magistrate._

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

You mean

You mean the video for which you have no qualifications to say is fake?

George is demanding that

George is demanding that someone name the guilty.Wasn't it Fetzer who went on a news show a while back and the host was demanding that he name names?Why is someone's name so important to these people? Dylan should be warned not to name any names when he debates Davin.

Names have been named

So you don't want to be accused of naming Bush, the guy you already named?