9/11 Bloglines -NewStatesman: "Meet the No-planers"

Thursday, September 07, 2006
New Statesman: "Meet the No Planers" (09/11)


Brendan O'Neill
Monday 11th September 2006

They believe there weren't any planes on 9/11, just missiles wrapped in holograms
- and there weren't any London terrorists on 7/7 either. The new-wave conspiracy theorists aren't green-ink types: they're educated; they have secret service connections; they live in Highgate.

At first sight, David Shayler and Annie Machon's home in Highgate - the leafiest of London's leafy suburbs - looks like a picture of middle-class respectability...

...Then you notice the curiosities. On the table sits a document about the "controlled demolition" of the twin towers. The shelves hold books titled The 9/11 Commission Report: omissions and distortions and The New Pearl Harbor: disturbing questions about the Bush administration and 9/11. There's a stack of colourful leaflets advertising a club night called Truth 9/11, to take place in Brixton in a week's time...

The 9/11 Truth Campaign tries to distance itself from the green-ink loons who have been spreading rumours about 9/11 ever since the first plane slammed into the World Trade Center. "In London we meet socially on the first Monday of every month...

...Its activists - many of whom are fairly well-to-do, and who include lecturers, film-makers and other whistle-blowers - pore over footage and photos of the events of 9/11, furiously debate them online, and argue that, scientifically, the official version of events doesn't add up.

...I ask Shayler if it's true he has become a "no planer" - that is, someone who believes that no planes at all were involved in the 9/11 atrocity. Machon looks uncomfortable. "Oh, fuck it, I'm just going to say this," he tells her. "Yes, I believe no planes were involved in 9/11." But we all saw with our own eyes the two planes crash into the WTC. "The only explanation is that they were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes," he says. "Watch the footage frame by frame and you will see a cigar-shaped missile hitting the World Trade Center." He must notice that my jaw has dropped. "I know it sounds weird, but this is what I believe."

...What about 7/7? Some in the 9/11 Truth Campaign aren't "really into 7/7", in Belinda's words. But Shayler is. He recently finished making 7/7: mind the gap, a film in which he suggests that, given the late running of trains on that fateful day last year, the four bombers could not have blown themselves up in London at the times claimed. He also believes that the closed-circuit TV image of the four men entering Luton Station is a "Photoshop job - a forgery, and a bad one at that"...

Other 9/11 Bloglines:
Belgium police hold 17 in Military Insider 'plot'
Book says CIA tried to provoke Saddam to war
New poll says most Canadians blame U.S. for 9/11 attacks
Dutch 9/11 Truth Site: If only the moon could talk...
ABC's 9/11 Docudrama: When Do the Facts Matter? - Newsweek
Spiked Online UK about Killtown
TheNation: The 9/11 Conspiracy Nuts
ADL: Five Years Later, Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Live On
Update: DC 9/11 Truth Anniversary Events
"New" Video Purports to Show Bin Laden Planning 9/11
NY Review of Books: "why would anyone use real planes?"
09/07: TotalRadio with special edition about Reynolds/Wood at NPR
Abby Singer At Ground Zero: "9/11 Conspiracy Wars"
09/08: Dylan Avery apparently on DemocracyNow!
Ex-CIA Christison: 9/11 was "Inside Job"
Times of India: US professors claim 9/11 an inside job
st911-M. Morrissey: "A Reply to Time"
9/11 as Theatre
2002 "9/11 Petition" reached almost 30.000 signatures

this bodes well for NPT's

as long as he doesn't try and attack people like jones, like reynolds did, his hit piece was really weakley reasoned. Shayler has a ton of cred, even with ppl like AJ.

nico you notice there was a blurb about you in the msn article?

just thought I'd point that out to you.

So far i count 5 MSM

So far i count 5 MSM articles since the end of last year somehow kindly mentioning 9/11 TV Fakery or spinning it out of context, replacing it completely with the "no-planes" notion or confusing it with the hologram technology on purpose.

The very real first one was here:

Toronto Sun mentions 9/11 "TV Fakery"
May 9, 2006

Toronto Sun: 9/11..."Video can be faked"

Conspiracy theorists abound on the World Wide Web
Sun, May 7, 2006

jim.slotek @tor.sunpub.com

"...The Internet, and its natural constituency of conspiracy-minded misanthropes, can be great entertainment if you're in the mood to look for it.
But there are certain articles you write that makes
the 'Net come looking for you...

But say 9/11 and the conspiracist's head cocks like my dog's,making that "Errrr?" sound, followed by a barrage of angry barking.
The Pentagon was blasted, not by a crashing jet loaded with enough explosive jet fuel to carry it to the West Coast,
but by a missile.

So what happened to the flight that didn't hit the Pentagon,
American Airlines Flight 77?
Well, it never came home, so it must be still up there with my luggage.

The planes that hit the WTC?
They may or may not have actually done so.
(Pictures and video can be faked, and the witnesses could have been paid off).

No 2.
was actually just a spin within a line of Village Voice
beginning of this year:
February 21, 2006
Village Voice gives one line for 9/11 TV fakery research

The Seekers
The birth and life of the '9-11 Truth movement'
by Jarrett Murphy
February 21st, 2006

"... Others claim the planes were remote controlled, were military aircraft, or did not exist at all...

was a paragraph in Salon (from 5 pages):

5 Pages article of Salon includes only 16 words on 9/11 TV fakery
The 9/11 deniers
By Farhad Manjoo (fm @farhadmanjoo.com)

"..."Loose Change" acknowledges that two planes did actually hit the trade towers -- this marks a variation from more outré versions of the no-plane theory, which propose that live videos of the crash were doctored to include the 767s..."

was the NYC Villager article from last week
with more paragraphs:
Volume 76, Number 15 | August 30 -September 5, 2006

...Missiles, not planes, hit the Twin Towers, Haupt added, and all the footage on television and in newspapers has been edited...

...Morales defended Haupt’s opinion: “...His strong point, which I tend more to agree with, is that the footage, the various mainstream media footage, seems to have been doctored...”

in this statistics is NewStatesman

I don't see anything offensive in all these articles, which makes it worse than a regular rant in MSM about controlled demolition conspiracy nuts.

However i also still don't expect any U.S. MSM with a detailed article about 9/11 TV Fakery.

I'm actually waiting for a finnish article on 9/11 TV... ;-)

yeah, those attack pieces

were really not the best thing to do

Nico, is the mp3 of Shayler

Nico, is the mp3 of Shayler available anywhere? The link you posted the other day does not seem to work

Dunno, i had only this

Dunno, i had only this here:

Sat Sep 02, 2006
Mark Gobell
Super Poster
Posts: 267
"...David Shayler announced last night on his radio show that he is a no planer..."

Statement up at 24:30
Shayler: "...TV Fakery...i think they're right about it,
but it's a waste of time..."

shayler makes the same point I've been reiterating

Even if true, it is evidence that is no help in waking up the general public. That's my only contention and why you've seen me so aggro about it being on the history channel forums.

MSNBC, WashPost, NewStatesman: Triple Hype 9/11 TV Fakery/No-Pla

...already old news, but i guess i have to post it here, too :)


Friday, September 08, 2006
MSNBC/WashPost- Nico Haupt:
"you'll realize there were no planes "

Many Americans suspect U.S. government involvement or complicityhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997/
By Michael Powell
September 8, 2006

"...Griffin took the podium and laid down his ideas with calm and cool. He concluded:

"It is already possible to know beyond a reasonable doubt one very important thing: The destruction of the World Trade Center was an inside job, orchestrated by domestic terrorists," he says. "The welfare of our republic and perhaps even the survival of our civilization depend on getting the truth about 9/11 exposed."

The 9/11 truthers share a lieutenant colonel's love of acronyms. They divide themselves into LIHOPS and MIHOPS and differences are not trifling. LIHOP stands for "Let It Happen On Purpose," which means someone inside the U.S. government intentionally let the terror conspiracy go. MIHOP means "Made It Happen On Purpose," and its gradations center on whether Bush was in or out of the loop (a surprising number believe he was clueless) and whether the Mossad or British intelligence was dealt into the deal.

Morales, 57, who came out of the Lower East Side housing projects, spent days at Ground Zero performing last rites for the dead, many little more than a collection of body parts.

"I didn't presume to know who did it," he says. "There was a lot of shucking and jiving. I wonder at what point massive incompetence crosses over into negligent homicide."

-- Krishnamurti

Nico Haupt, a gaunt fellow in black sneakers, black socks, black jeans and black T-shirt, stands up in St. Mark's Church in the Bowery. He holds aloft two blue Oreos boxes taped to resemble the twin towers. A pen juts out, kind of like a Boeing airplane.

For an hour he's shown videos of planes hitting the towers. If you note the glinting sunlight and angle of wings and you're honest about vectors and maybe the hashish is kicking in, you'll realize there were no planes .

Truth movement veterans distance themselves from Haupt, who has a bit of a temper. But Reynolds, the former Labor Department economist, also is a "no-planer."

"There were no planes, there were no hijackers," Reynolds insists. "I know, I know, I'm out of the mainstream, but that's the way it is."

But what about all those New Yorkers who saw airplanes hitting the twin towers? A chuckle rumbles down the phone line. "I don't believe anyone in Lower Manhattan," he says. "You hire three dozen Actors' Equity dudes and they'll say anything."

My comment:
I think MSM and the perps now really don't care.
There must be another backup plan.

Their hangout spin was still too soft, the new laden tape too lame, the hype on 9/11 truth movement now too overwhelming and their spin on TV fakery was slicker and more simple than i expected:
"...It's just not accepted by the community...."

Coming back to my old "vendetta theory".

The perps *have already their new patsy linking the complete truth movement to Al Quaeda and Terrorism, already confusing the movement with terrorists and confusing the word conspiracists with conspiracy theorists.

I wouldn't rule out that they also sacrifice Bush for a setup against someone in this *movement.

On Sunday??? This weekend?

And then a new Zapruder and the *game continues ???

Great stuff