Important Information on Steven Jones' Research

As a former major supporter of Steven Jones I must convey the following

 

Steven Jones spends much of his time on molten metal, in particular the molten metal dripping from the South Tower. Using a picture from the NIST report, he determines the color of the molten metal in order to gauge the temperature. However, the NIST report states that the “intensity levels” of the picture were adjusted. This information was placed at the bottom of the picture, but for some reason Jones removed it.

 

Why did Jones use a picture that had its intensity level adjusted to determine the color or something?

Why did he hide the fact that the levels were adjusted?

Was the dripping molten metal really there? Notice that the windows switch.

 

 

 


 

 

Jones assumed that, just because aluminum is silvery at ~650° C, it must be silvery at 1000° C. Is this scientific? Dr Judy Wood and Michael Zebuhr performed some demonstrations on aluminum, but Jones was not interested in their findings.

 

Not long after, Michael Zebuhr was killed under very suspicious circumstances.

 

After that, Dr Wood was released from her position as Assistant Mechanical Engineering Professor at Clemson University.


Dr Wood has been defending the “No Plane Crash Theory” (NPCT) using her expertise and knowledge of physical laws. Jones chose not to respond on the physics (aluminum planes slicing through structural steel), but instead concentrates on pictures of “wreckage”, and eyewitness accounts, all of which can be faked. Physical laws cannot be changed. [PDF File]


Jones attempts to prove deceleration of the supposed plane in the South Tower attack using this animated gif file for his data.

Is Jones for real? A founding member of SPINE and retired Software Engineer in the Aerospace Industry used the DVD put out by CNN and found NO deceleration.


Drs Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds have written several essays describing Jones’ mistakes. Although some may be turned off by the articles’ tone, one must realize what Dr Wood has been dealing with lately. See here and here and here.

 

An excerpt: Jones neglects laws of physics and physical evidence regarding impossible WTC big plane crashes in favor of curt dismissal of the no-planes-theory (NPT). He relies on "soft" evidence like videos, eyewitnesses, planted evidence and unverified black boxes. When others challenge how aluminum wide-body Boeings can fly through steel-concrete walls, floors and core without losing a part, Jones does not turn to physics for refutation but continues to cite eyewitnesses and videos, thereby backing the OGCT.”

 

This post (not by me) in the comments section explains Wood’s accomplishments.

 

See my other blogs for other relevant information.

 

Note: Jones’ paper was taken off BYU’s website, but is available here.

Anybody can plainly see that

Anybody can plainly see that that is in fact an iron beam(from the glowing color) with what would seem to me is thermate slowly descending down the column. (hence the transfer from the 4th window to the third window. Lower also I might add.) All those pictures you posted did for me was reinforce what Ive picked up from following Jones. I dont get it I guess.

Seriously CB_Brooklyn, no

Seriously CB_Brooklyn, no one wants you here, please leave this site. Here’s the door, use it;

CB_Brooklyn, GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS SITE NOW!

CB_Brooklyn is a disinformation artist attempting to smear one of our best 9/11 truth scientific researchers. His true goal is to use character assassination tactics to discredit the BEST 9/11 TRUTH RESEARCHERS. Everyone should be able to see through his bullshit, and demand that he be banned before he does more damage to the 9/11 truth movement.
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Stop giving attention to the "no plane theories" disinfo agents like Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, David Shayler, killtown, CB_Brooklyn, and others who are sabotaging this movement, either by sheer stupidity or intentionally as government moles.

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Still Molten!

Methinks thou makest thyself a problem... hmm! For it it be (as thou suggest) that these fires are hotter, say 1000 C, then must thou tell us how they 'acheivèd such - not by petrolium that did fuel the flying chariot I wot! But, and regardless thereof, 'tis surely molten metal all the same - and how pray did it get there... Thou art a troll, admit it! Wherefore hast thou come hither? Yea, verily art thou as out of place as I do find me here away from Camelot!

OK, you can go now.

Every banned no-planer = 1000 new Truthers !!!

Subterfuge

Switched? Then show us the video in realtime. PM said they had all 19 HJ's DNA and,like them you purvey pure subterfuge!

molten metal

I saw Dr Jones presentation on Free Speech TV. He showed the video of the molten metal dripping from the side of the building. It looked like a structual support column of the building that was dripping right off the side of the building. The color was yellowish. What ever caused that had to have been more than airplane jet fuel. You'd need a pretty high temperature to get results like that.

Jones' suspicious switch

Jones' suspicious switch from the traditional evidence of CD to the thermite hype can be easily explained, if you read this:

http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/Jones-Kubiak.htm
Steven Jones, David Kubiak- The Los Alamos Connections

Nico, if CD is "proven"....

why haven't we contacted every single scientist in the country? Where is this proof? I don't doubt it exists, but exactly where is it? And why haven't we been publicizing it all this time? Where is the proof??

More hooey from Judy Wood

There was no "window switch". Those are two seperate photos. Note the photo in the bottom right. It shows a flame to the upper left of the "dripping molten metal, which is absent in the other photo.

CB_Brooklyn wrote: "Was the

CB_Brooklyn wrote:

"Was the dripping molten metal really there? Notice that the windows switch."

CB, I have already debunked this and you know it. There are at least three videos showing the "dripping molten metal". I told you about this two weeks ago. Why are you pretending that the other video doesn't exist? Well, that's obvious to me -- because you are a disinfo shill. If you weren't, you would have posted the other video of the molten metal into your blog -- but ya didn't. You chose to attack Jones on a point that you know is false. Why? Because you're a disinfo shill and a traitor to the 9/11 truth movement.

Here's another view of the

Here's another view of the molten metal dripping from the South Tower:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=16umhKAuRC8

Compare it to the video evidence that you insinuated was faked by Prof. Steven Jones:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=545886459853896774&q=911+collapse

There's at least one more view of it -- from a helicopter cam.

I posted this information for CB_Brooklyn to see on Sun, 08/26/2006 on this thread:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/2298

However, he ignored the other videos and instead chose to pretend they didn't exist when he made this comment in his most recent hit piece on Steven Jones dated Sat, 09/09/2006:

"Was the dripping molten metal really there?"

You tell us, CB, "was the molten metal really there?"

The OP, CB_Brooklyn is a disinfo agent

quote from stallion toward the disinfo operative called CB_Brooklyn

"You chose to attack Jones on a point that you know is false. Why? Because you're a disinfo shill and a traitor to the 9/11 truth movement."

I agree wholeheartedly.

GET THE HELL OUT, CB_BROOKLYN, YOU DISHONEST DISINFORMATION OPERATIVE.

Anybody with a brain can see straight past your bull. Tell your neocon masters, that your disinfo tactics will not work.

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Stop giving attention to the "no plane theory" COINTELPRO disinfo agents like William Lewis, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, Scott Loughrey, Shayler, killtown, CB_Brooklyn, webfairy(Holmgren and Grable), John Kaminski, Tom Flocco, letsroll911 who are sabotaging the 9/11 truth movement, either by sheer stupidity or more likely, deliberately.

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