Paul Craig Roberts

Is American Democracy Too Feeble To Deal With 9/11?

"...The attack by conservative Presbyterians on Griffin’s publisher, the Presbyterian Westminster John Knox Press, for publishing his book is more indication that the Protestant churches might not be up to the job that Griffin assigns to them. Conservative Presbyterians, who have not read Griffin’s book and whose comprehension of events is dependent on right-wing radio talk shows and Fox "News," demanded retribution against the John Knox Press for daring to publish a work so blasphemous as to cast doubt on the motives of President Bush and the U.S. Government..."

Continued... - Swiped from u2r2h's blog

Do Conservative Presbyterians think Bush is God?

"...demanded retribution against the John Knox Press for daring to publish a work so blasphemous as to cast doubt on the motives of President Bush and the U.S. Government..."

If I were a "Conservative Presbyterian" I would think Bush & the U.S. Gov't are the devil, not God.

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vdare

Any link to vdare should include a warning, imo.

It's an ever-so-slightly-racist piece of crap.

Just sayin'.

Uh, yeah.

I second your "just sayin'."

no support from the powers

I think the MSM 'hit piece'-firestorm today is a clear sign that speculation about support for 9/11 truth by the powers-that-be, was nonsense. They're marching on, the truth will never come out, 9/11 will become JFK II

reports of the Truth Movements death are greatly exaggerated

I find it interesting that of all people PCR is giving up (as it seems) just when we are achieving breakthrough exposure. This smells of manufacturing consent, as does "Greg's" note of approval. 9/11 is nothing like JFK, and those who would like to think so are just engaged uin wishful thinking that they hope will catch on. Remember Ruppert? Me neither. What I do know is that every poll continues to show the same trend--more Americans waking up. Of course if we listen to the defeatists, whether or not they are shills is of no great importance, we will certainly kill off the movement. Instead, we should welcome the stepping aside of those who aren't in this for the long haul. Those of us who do more than dip our toes in cyberspace, those of us who are out on the streets nearly every day reaching out to our fellow citizens, we know what the score is, and that we're winning. The powers that be are frightened to death, make no mistake. They will always hold out hope that this issue will simply vanish--don't indulge their unrealistic optimism. For every glum PCR there are one million real truthers out there who are the real movement. We know better than to assume that this movement has leaders and that when they give up we should too. What's more like reality is that as they step aside, having played their role of giving us hope and then pulling it away, they will simply make room for the rest of us to rise to the challenge of moving forward. Don't listen to anyone who tells you that we'll never have closure--they are the ones who know how close we are to a breakthrough and will do and say anything at this point to save their skins. We are going to win--we are winning--we have won. Let's start acting like it.
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

the MSM won today

I meant they've won today's media coverage, 11.September 2006. I was expecting the big MSM sites would mention the 1/3rd poll along with Bush's fake tears etc. But no, Bush and Cheney ran the show and got away with everything, as if 9/11 were 100% authentic. They can continue to use it "as if" it had happened as they say, and no single MSM outlet dares to throw in the truth. The day is not over yet, but that's how it looks so far.

Yes, but how many are watching and believing?

The MSM is caught up in thinking they are still in control... Let them think so--the people aren't stupid, and the MSM's dwindling viewership has a collective IQ that creeps steadily downward!_

"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

Exactly

So well said, RT. Thanks.

thanks YT

I've grown to be quite inspired by everyone (ok almost everyone) on this and other sites. we really are doing something unprecedented and remarkable. we all deserve medals, and maybe one day we'll get them!
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers

It IS unprecedented

We're in a very exciting time.

Thanks for speaking up.

"Whether 9/11 was merely

"Whether 9/11 was merely convenient for the Administration or whether the Administration had a hand in it, I do not know."

I don't understand this guy. Well, he must be a seriuos candidate for a shill. Especially, after his attacks on Steven Jones.

attacks on SJ? that was

attacks on SJ? that was Morgan Reynolds. Paul Craig Roberts didn't talk about 9/11 in terms of a conspiracy until recently. He did great economic editorials about Bush, such as 10000 people applying for 1 Wal-Mart job while Bush praises the U.S. economy.

Is the govt capable of investigating itself.

Bottom line:

Our govt is not capable of investigating itself
They have not been in the JFK assassination.
That was a whitewash investigation just like the 911 investigation.
They were not in the Oklahoma bombings.
will the fox tell the truth about his management of the hen house.

Here we have the accused being rogue elements inside the CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, DOJ, Bush, Cheney and the pentagon at least.

This is a huge chunk of the govt.
We give half a trillion dollars to these agencies every year.
They hold the keys to all the evidence.

Are they going to give us all the evidence ?

Not without about 25-50 milion US citizens demanding it ?!

The 911 Commission had the power to subpoena but did not use this on any of the above suspects that I am aware of.
The 911 Commission cherry picked what they read and reported what they wanted to.
It was kind of Sunday picnic.
Bush and Cheney were not forced to testify under oath.
Bush got Cheney to be in the room so that there stories would sync. And Cheney probably led the way.

What are our options ?
Do 50 million Americans shut the country down.
Refuse to work.
Take their cars. Go out on the freeway and just park them.
Shut the economy down until we have the release of the "secret" documents and an independent investigation.

Didn't the people from Spain have mass demonstrations and the incumbent dictator was ousted I believe.
Maybe it was near election times.
This was related to a false flag terror incident also.