Naudet Bros. Update - Guns and Butter - 9/11 First Responders.

CLARIFICATION: This little film is new, catches up with the firefighters from the original film, and most importantly, has a segment in the middle of the film that deals with the health of the fighters.

One of the Naudet's comments, "Unless it is the most extraordinary of all coincidence(s), they are all sick."

One of the fighters says that he is still sneezing up "black".

Most of them have some sort of respiratory problem.

This is a decent little tribute by the Naudet's.


Update to the Emmy award winning documentary 9/11, produced by brothers Gedeon and Jules Naudet and retired firefighter James Hanlon, shown on Britain's Channel 4 after a repeat showing of the documentary.

In September 2001, filmmakers Jules and Gedeon Naudet filmed throughout 9/11 and the days afterwards from the firemen's perspective. As the fifth anniversary of 9/11 approached, the filmmakers revisited the scene of the original documentary.

This update includes interviews with the FDNY firefighters featured in the 9/11 documentary. Some have changed jobs, some have been promoted - none can forget what they went through and all are worried about their state of health after the conditions they endured that day. One of the Naudet brothers was married in the Engine 7, Ladder 1 firehouse.

19 minutes including credits

AVI Video - DivX Codec (recommend DivX player or VideoLAN)
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Also, yesterday, 9/20/2006, on Bonnie Faulkner's Guns and Butter radio show;

New York Stories: 9/11 First Responders
Toxic conditions at ground zero, on 9/11 and long afterward, have had devastating physical and psychological effects on a category of persons known as "first responders". These are the people that showed up, some within minutes, some from across the country, and stayed for weeks and even months. At Community Church in New York City on September 9, 2006, a group of 9/11 first responders shared their experiences at ground zero and afterward. Though they were touted as heroes, they have been treated like poor servants. Presentations by National Guardsman, David Miller; former New York City police officer, Craig Bartmer; volunteer and civil air patrol pilot, Major Mike McCormick; and former Air Force Speical Operations for Search and Rescue, Kevin McPadden.

Streaming Audio archive link here; Sept. 20, 2006


Here are some screen caps from the Naudet update;

Something strange about those Naudets...

I would think a couple of sharp young filmmakers, who were intimately involved in 9/11, would have a least a few questions to pose regarding the "official story." Have they been well rewarded to stay mum on the subject?

I dunno......

Sorry, I don't trust these guys. I am highly suspicious of the circumstances surrounding their "historical" 9/11 film.

Do you know how many intersections in Manhatten have that prefectly distant, framed view of the towers? And that's just the beginning.

Yes!!! You are onto

Yes!!! You are onto something there. When you watch their film closely you will notice several oddities. They were the first to show up to the towers... Filming in the lobby of the first tower to get hit. Arrived minutes after the first attack. Yet there are very few people running through the main lobby. Where are all the people?

They were in the perfect location to film the first attack!.... If they had been on the other side of the street they wouldn't have seen anything.

They were in the perfect location to catch the appropriate footage....every time in the right place....They caught the first attack from the perfect angle... they caught the second tower falling from the first tower lobby.... They caught the view we all have seen of building 7 fallling.... and they caught the footage of the Firefighter Chaplain before he was killed ....and after when the firefighters carried his body from the towers. ...(a body that looked relatively undamaged)

NOTE:....not one firefighter from that station was killed on 9/11....all survived

They had been living with these firefighters for 6 months prior to 9/11? are the French into the lives of NY firefighters that they couldn't have gotten the footage needed for their film in less time.... Who funded this film? 6 months is a long time to be on location.

They got alot of good stuff.....I wonder what they missed or was cut from their footage

If you watch the film, the

If you watch the film, the problem they had filming their documentary on firemen in NY was that there was a long dry spell where there simply were no fires...they just sat there in frustration waiting for a fire...and when it came, dayim, it was the big one.

So it was their first and

So it was their first and last film.... who was funding them and why?

Would they have stayed for a year if there were no fires?

I think if you bothered to

I think if you bothered to follow the entire art form of art house documentary film making you'd find that that kind of patience by film makers financing their own projects and living on meagre budgets in the service of their art is not really all that unusual in their community.

And by the way, if you did

And by the way, if you did start following art house documentary films you'd discover that there are a lot of really great movies out there undiscovered by the lazy and complacent general public. It's just chance that this one attracted their attention because they happened to be on site for the greatest news event of the century.

See? this is just a sample, a very small sample of what is going on out there. If there had been no 911 then the Fireman documentary would have been relegated to the obscurity of a festival like definitely ignored by 99% of the public

So this wasn't their first

So this wasn't their first and last film????


Read it carefully, but make sure to read it!

Did you know that two of the firemen were actors? Did you know that one of the firemen/actors is, in fact, fireman, director, producer, narrator and (presumed) cameraman in the film (as well as being an actor elsewhere); he also conducts the film's interviews, and seems to have at least contributed to the basic theme of the film?

The Naudet-Brothers came literally out of nowhere and virtually disappeared after the 9/11 movie. Award winning movie makers that never made a movie again.

I urge you to read the article.

James Hanlon, the firefighter and actor

"Ten years ago, the Naudets met actor James Hanlon. In 1994, Hanlon became a New York City firefighter, and was assigned to the Duane Street firehouse, where he has worked ever since. Even after becoming a firefighter, Hanlon, 36, has continued to act. He has appeared in more than 30 plays, as well as films and television shows. Recently, he has guest-starred on "Law and Order" and "NYPD Blue." He is married to a French woman, Sophie Comet, and speaks French."

Here is his IMDB entry:

Quite a busy actor, I'd say - especially in the years 2000 and 2001. I don't know how many professional actors are doing (or are allowed to do) a high risk part-time job.

Flood: I don't know how many

Flood: I don't know how many professional actors are doing (or are allowed to do) a high risk part-time job.

That was a really stupid comment, Flood.

The only actors who wouldn't be allowed to do anything they want, would be actors who have stipulations in contract(s) barring them from undertaking risky activity that might jeapordize their ability to fulfill their contractual obligations, which would most likely be part of a movie, tv show, etc. currently being filmed, or a movie, tv show, etc. that is more than 1 part, where said actor(s) are expected to fulfill their contractual obligations without interfering with filming date(s)/time(s), budget, etc.

There isn't anything about that actor that says that he's currently under any contract(s) for film(s), tv shows, etc. So he can do anything risky that he wants.

That was a really stupid comment, Flood.


Don't call anyones comment stupid - moreover not twice. As you can see, I asked myself how many professional actors are having high risk part-time jobs. Not that stupid.

Wow, extremely fascinating article, thanks!

And the writer, Leslie Raphael, has an amazing way with details!
(I am very curious as to why these gregarious, rising-star Frenchmen have disappeared from view, to say the least.)

Did you see


Pre-recorded footage from the fire fighters in the WTC building. I know that there could be a possible explanation for this, but it is very weird nontheless. "Let's record some footage from the inside of the WTC, we might need it later!"

Make sure to read this site:

I can smell another huge smoking gun: the foreknowledge of the Naudet Brothers and the firefighter/actor/producer/narrator/co-director James Hanlon.

Replying to myself

Check out this site:

Very interesting stuff!

Do you remember when Pfeifer went into the WTC building and the narrator says something like "there is a person burning on the right side of us, we don't wanna show it". That was somehow suspicious, but now we see some guy, dressed like a combination of a fire fighter and a soldier.

A lot of evidence (tony and the clock) that points to a fake 9/11 documentary and foreknowledge.


did you notice that they cooked dinner for the friehouse on 9/10?


Where can I find that piece of information? Sounds wierd.

BTW: I became a "truther" while I watched the Naudet film the first time. I had the gut feeling that something is wrong with this "documentary". Maybe it is because I can read emotions from someones face pretty easily (and I think precisely) and when I saw the faces of the fire fighters in some scenes, I wondered if they are really shocked. I looked into the face of "Tony" (the one fire fighter left in the firehouse) and it seemed to be wrong:

Look at the last picture of this page:

This scene came shortly after they entered the WTC lobby and after they allegedly saw a "burning person" at the entrance. I mean, I think that there were already people jumping out the windows and at least one person was burning. A plane crashed into the building and so on, but they are standing there smiling or laughing?

Not much of an observer

With regard to your drawing attention to the last picture on that particular 'webfairy' page that particular still comes from an earlier part of the documentary, which relates earlier visits to the Trade Centre due to false alarms etc. - if nothing else, the fact that James Hanlon is in the picture should be a giveaway as he was off-duty on 9/11.

I've no doubt that the full facts of 9/11 are something we may never know, but getting such simple facts wrong does the 'truth seekers' no favours.

Naudets should make an "Abandoned First Responders"...

If the Naudets and their handler, "retired" firefighter James Hanlon, really love the firefighters as much as they say, they should at least make a video/documentary about the first responders who are dying 5 years later!!!

Omission from Monday night network showing

One of the most memorable parts of the Naudet Brothers 9/11 video was of Dennis Tardio in the North Tower saying:

"It was as if as if they had detonated ... as if they had planned to take down a building,
boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom "

ABC aired a two hour special on the Naudet Brothers video Monday night. This scene with Dennis Tardio was omitted from the broadcast.

BREAKING - Two stories

You'll be interested to know two stories just broke:

Musharraf says US threatened to bomb Pakistan after 9/11 if it did not join the WoT, Armitage delivered it.

Pentagon releases IG report claiming there is nothing to Able Danger and that Shaffer's charges are unrelated to his talking - roasted by Shaffer's lawyer.

As is often the case, details of the report radically contradict the stated conclusion, check out these excerpts:

- Nicholas (currently "anonymous")

what is going on at

Latest update is a selection of pictures from Burning Man?

Time for Sibel Edmonds to speak up!

Move to Canada and risk all. Same goes for NYPD and NYFD. These people occupy a special position that is unique to the truth of 9/11. That is, forty firemen in jail on a hunger strike is about the only power in the U.S. that is going to solve this whole mess. Only a few are placed in history to carry the ring of truth and they must risk all to manifest a moral destiny for the planet. I dont say this lightly. All great movements have individuals that make the ultimate sacrifice for their nations. Why do Americans soldiers sacrifice their lives(so far 2800) for an false war,a massive crime, but none for an essntial truth that can define the moral structure of this new century.

sorry but it's late for me

When will this nightmare be over? It has affected my life greatly... and I wasn't even directly involved. Just make it go away, no more 9/11, I'm so sick of it, so sick of fighting it. Where is that asshole God when you need him? Add these tears to the tears of those throughout history who no one was there to witness or understand. I cry for this whole thing, sometimes I loose the fire to keep this up. I just want it to all go away, like at the end of "Everybody's got to learn sometime". You make it stop, you make it better.


This little film is new, catches up with the firefighters from the original film, and most importantly, has a segment in the middle of the film that deals with the health of the fighters.

One of the Naudet's comments, "Unless it is the most extraordinary of all coincidence(s), they are all sick."

One of the fighters says that he is still sneezing up "black".

Most of them have some sort of respiratory problem.

This is a decent little tribute by the Naudet's.


PLEASE ANSWER THE CALL........Did your Brethren die there

Excellent little college newspaper letter by student...

I wish all college students were this smart:

Concrete dust(1 part cement, 3 parts silica) and Silicosis

"Acute Silicosis: Occurs after heavy exposure to high concentrations of silica. The symptoms can develop within a few weeks or as long as 5 years after the exposure.

Chronic Silicosis:
Occurs after long term exposure(over 10 years) of low concentrations of silica dust. This is most common form of the disease,and is often undetected for many years because a chest X-Ray often will not reveal the disease for as long as 20 years after exposure. This type of the disease severely hinders the ability of the body to fight infections because of the damage to the lungs, making the person more susceptible to other lung illnesses, including tuberculosis.

Accelerated Silicosis: Occurs after exposure to high concentrations of silica. The disease develops within 5 to 10 years after exposure.

In addition to the three types, silica dust can kill people and can cause many serious diseases besides silicosis. Or often the silicosis can lead to other dangerous lung conditions.


The Progression of the Disease

After silica particles are inhaled, the smallest particles work their way to the lower respiratory tract. Once in the lungs the particles cause acute toxicity damage to the lung cells. Scientists believe that the surface and sharp structure of the silica particle are to blame for the extreme danger and toxic nature of the dust. As support for this theory, it has been observed that freshly crushed silica particles cause more inflammation and kill more cells than silica that has aged in the air.

The silica particles are quickly attacked and ingested by the body's defense releasing enzymes and radicals. This release of these by products can result in death of the lung and white blood cells cell which causes inflammation which can result in acute silicosis. However the process usually produces a condition called alveolitis which is often the first stage of chronic silicosis.

As scar tissue is created it will form lesions in the later stages of the disease.

As the body develops chronic inflammation dark areas become visible in X-ray chest film. The silicotic nodules are dense spherical structures which collect together and become visible on chest X-rays usually in the upper lung fields.

As silicosis develops, the lungs become increasingly susceptible to infections with tuberculosis, fungi, and bacteria of many kinds, which accelerates the disease process.

What Happens to The Lungs as Silicosis Progresses

Silicosis is characterized by what doctors see on the Chest X-Rays and they have various classifications for these stages.

Acute Silicosis

In cases of acute silicosis, the damage to the lung occurs quickly and early in the disease due to heavy silica exposure. Patients have a poor prognosis and the disease rarely ha s a chance to become one of the chronic forms.

Acute silicosis, is caused by a massive outpouring of protein debris and fluid into lung sacs. It happens with short term exposure to extremely high concentrations of silica dust. Acute silicosis is treated with a high dose of steroids, but the prognosis is generally poor. This is because the ongoing accumulation of debris in the lungs air spaces causes respiratory failure which is largely untreatable. Additionally, acute silicosis is complicated by opportunistic infections of fungi, and bacteria. Acute silicosis reportedly has caused many deaths among workers exposed at the same time, at a single work site. Lung Transplants for young workers with this form of silicosis provides some hope.

Chronic Silicosis: Angel of Death

In this form of silicosis, also called "chronic nodular silicosis", the silicotic nodules collect to form a mass, which can be identified on Chest X-Rays. These masses cause the upper lobes of the lungs to contract, which appears as an "angel wing pattern" on the X-Rays. Doctors and radiographers refer to this pattern as the angel of death because it is a poor prognostic sign.

Clinically, this massive formation of the nodules in the lungs leads to shortness of breath and progressive disease. Ultimately, the condition causes respiratory failure. Additionally, the silicosis causing respiratory failure can lead to cardio-pulmonary arrest if the disease continues to progress. Complications of chronic silicosis can also include tuberculosis, condition called silicotuberculosis and a number of other infections and lung diseases.

Accelerated Silicosis

Accelerated silicosis is a very rare, form that progresses rapidly from intense short term exposure to silica particles.In this form the nodules develop at a much faster rate and is usually fatal within a few years.

Other complications include:

Infections: Fungal or mycobacterial infections are believed to result when the lung scavenger cells (macrophages) that fight these diseases are overwhelmed with silica dust and are unable to kill mycobacteria and other organisms.

Silicotuberculosis: Patients with silicosis have a greatly increased risk of developing from tuberculosis

Systemic Sclerosis (Scleroderma): Silica exposure has been associated with systemic sclerosis (scleroderma) and its many forms. Systemic sclerosis is a disorder of connective tissues and joints and small blood vessels. Scleroderma involves skin changes and injury to the joints: most obvious changes are seen on the skin, particularly over the fingers and face.

Silica-Associated Lung Cancer: Lung cancer has been associated with preexisting silicosis. However, lung cancer may also occur in persons exposed to silica in the absence of silicosis. Scientists believe that silicosis produces increased risk for lung cancer and that the association between silica exposure and lung cancer is causal. The International Agency for Research on Cancer has identified silica as a Class 1 human carcinogen and a definite animal carcinogen."

Lionel is on MSNBC right

Lionel is on MSNBC right now. talking about how Armitage told the president of Pakistan that they would be "bombed into the stoneage" after 9/11.

Lionel just completely

Lionel just completely ripped some conservative assclown. i dont know much about this guy Lionel but he seems to be pretty on.

Naudets are a Psyop.

Naudets are a Psyop.

Naudets is an anagram of Duane St -- where their "film" was shot, which was staged, and does NOT show an airplane hitting WTC1.

I've heard the idea before

I've heard the idea before that their position on a blocked intersection was unique and otherwise they couldn't have filmed it. But on the other hand, NYC is big and how about all the other camera-bearers in Manhatten that didn't catch it - it's statistically not unlikely that this 'coincidence' happened. Unless of course, there was no plane at all.

lol The suspected spook is

lol The suspected spook is trying to re-peddle those tiny online video clips of Flight 11 hitting the North tower.

Didn't me and Jon already smash you about that? Yes.

But since you're trying to trick people again, here's a larger 13mb version that you can watch [ ]

I'll post the link to this comment as a reply to any other time that I see you try to trick people with those tiny BBC and CNN video clips.

Now spook, go away.

Why must we tie the validity

Why must we tie the validity of the Naudet Bros. film with the existance or non-existance of a plane???? I can't think of a better way to trash an argument than to insist there was no plane involved.

This sounds like a psy-op in itself. Keep it simple - a plane hit WTC1, and the Naudets were there to film it. They had the perfect location and time, along with a phony excuse to BE there.

They made a real film. It's the foreknowledge that is the key. And don't worry - with an op of this importance, there would be back-up locations, just in case they missed it.

Paul Watson rips

Debunking 9/11 Website Debunks Itself
Middle school grammar, contradictory arguments befit proponents of the official conspiracy theory

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison | September 22 2006

A website which purports to disprove claims that there was government complicity in 9/11 and that the twin towers and Building 7 were demolished with explosives is riddled with errors, middle school grammar and arguments that both defy common sense and contradict one another.

Since the 9/11 truth movement's success in attracting an increasing crescendo of positive media attention, a backlash of websites and videos have sprung up that attempt to reinvigorate faith in the official conspiracy theory of the government fairy tale - a yarn that has about as much basis in reality as Humpty Dumpty.

The website seems to take unbridled joy in the threat to Professor Steven Jones' livelihood in the wake of his suspension, failing to mention that the suspension was preceded by a World Net Daily article that claimed Jones had called for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government - a completely bogus and libelous charge that World Net Daily later retracted after the writer Jonathon Moseley was unable to cite his source for such comments during an appearance on the Alex Jones Show.

As Avery and Blood discuss the incredulity of Arabs with box cutters being able to take on passengers and burly ex-military pilots, unconnected images of BBC articles about Britain's knife amnesty and how knife crime is rising are flashed.

This is all about emotional style over substance and is bluntly intended to characterize 9/11 skeptics as uncaring inhumane carpet baggers - without ever being able to address the evidence.

We urge our readers to comb through this website for themselves - it won't be long before you run across bizarre leftfield arguments (at one point the collapse of the twin towers is compared to two pool balls hitting each other), confounding statements that are an affront to the English language, and outright errors concerning the claims of the 9/11 truth movement.

We invite you to e mail the anonymous author of the website, maybe take pity on them and offer to buy them a dictionary.

For everyone saying the

For everyone saying the naudet brother where in on 9/11

1. Do you believe planes hit WTC 1&2?

2. If the naudet brother where in on 9/11 and knew the towers where going to collapse, why the hell would they rush to the towers if they knew they where going to colapse?

3.And are you saying that all the firefighters in that film where actors?

Only one of the brothers

Only one of the brothers were at the towers and he was in the first tower to get hit.... he would have known what he was being told. The second tower that was hit fell first... and he was in tower one to get the falling debris on film. He then had plenty of time to flee prior to the WTC1 falling.

If they were "in the know" I'm sure they were being informed of where they needed to be. There are alot of suspect coincidences with these guys.

You also have to wonder how

You also have to wonder how George "SAW" the first plane hit the towers long before anyone else saw the footage.... He saw it prior to going into the classroom.

Unless he had a vision.... he was watching it somewhere on a TV?