Lymphoma cluster points to nuke event at WTC

Lymphoma cluster points to nuke event at WTC

Wayne Madsen Report, Sept. 12, 2006:

"According to sources who worked with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) at Ground Zero on and after 911, residents of southern Manhattan and rescue and clean-up workers involved in the recovery operations at the site of the former World Trade Center are experiencing an unusually high rate of non-Hodgkin lymphoma -- a cancer that is common among individuals who have been exposed to extremely high levels of ionizing radiation, such as that from nuclear blasts and major nuclear reactor leaks. In addition to the respiratory problems among rescue workers at Ground Zero who breathed toxic "pulverized" concrete and other debris into their lungs, the radiation cancer is of extreme interest to researchers who suspect that the World Trade Center towers and Building 7 were brought down with the help of high energy releases. WMR spoke to a number of individuals who were at Ground Zero on 911 who are now experiencing symptoms resulting from severe damage to their immune systems -- a condition that is common among those exposed to high levels of radiation.

Sources close to FEMA in New York confirmed to WMR that the lymphoma cases are believed to be the result of a release of extremely high levels of radiation from a series of nuclear events on the morning of 911. They believe that explains the reason for the "pulverization" of concrete, molten metals, pyroclastic surges and fallout, and other anomalies resulting from the catastrophe. It was also pointed out that some vehicles parked on the west side of the World Trade Center were "fused" on the sides facing the towers -- the doors being melted into the body frames. Other cars parked nearby were not similarly affected. There is also evidence of explosions and fires on top of the Woolworth Building, three blocks away from the World Trade Center, during the attack on the towers.

FEMA officials from Washington, DC were quick to ban any unofficial photography in southern Manhattan in the weeks following 911. Any photographers who had not received prior permission from FEMA to be in southern Manhattan found their photographic and filming equipment confiscated by the government.

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Is that the most plausible explanation?

We have to stay focused to the most plausible explanations for what we know happened that day, despite the allure of some of our more exotic hypotheses.

The high occurance of Lymphoma, and other respritory diseases among those who were exposed to GZ air, is likely due to the release of heavy metals and radioactive isotopes that were contained in the flourescent lighting, metal detectors, and contents of offices in the buildings when they were pulverized. Of course, that pulverization directly implies the use of explosives.

There is absolutely no reason to even consider the possibility that radiological explosives were used in the building, unless we find evidence of the devices or direct evidence of their use. And further, this line of inquiry has been taken up only by the least established participants in the movement. Alex Jones, Barrie Zwicker, Paul Thompson, Mike Ruppert, Dylan Avery, Nicholas Levis, David Ray Griffin, Nafeez Ahmed, etc... None of these people, the most prominent and most educated members of the movement, advance this hypothesis. Of course, these things have been known to change. All of them would look at the data.

Can you please indicate the best source for evidence implying the use of radiological explosives at the WTC.

International Truth Movement

Here Some Evidence

We all have to look at the evidence. Then make our own conclusions.

The producers from 9/11 Witness put forth the notion of nuke techonology was used. 9/11 Mysteries admits that some form of exotic explosives techniques were used. That never have been used before in controlled demolition, i.e. explosion vs implosion. WTC7 was implosion, traditional.

Here are points of interest to me.

The damage exhibited here can not be explained by controlled demolition. The explosive damage here indicates something much more powerful.
Evidence of High Explosives

Here is a paper by Dr. James Ward that advances the use of nukes theory.

Here is an open letter by Rick Siegel to Steve Jones.

Below are 23 questions I find valid and worthy of investigation.

Evidence of fusion devices at the WTC:

1. pulverization of 99% of concrete into ultra fine dust as recorded by official studies. Concrete dust was created instantly throughout the towers when the fusion device million degree heat rapidly expanded water vapor in the concrete floors.

2. Superheated steels ablating (vaporizing continuously as they fall) as seen in video clips of the towers collapsing. This requires uniform temperatures roughly twice that of thermate.

3. 22 ton outer wall steel sections ejected 200 meters into the winter garden. Cutting charges cannot provide the energy required.

4. 330 ton section of outer wall columns ripping off side of tower. Cutting charges cannot provide energy required.

5. Molten ponds of steel at the bottom of elevator shafts (WTC1, WTC2, WTC7) Thermate is impractical for lower level demolition due to the thickness of the 47 steel columns.

6. The spire behavior (stands for 20-30 seconds, evaporates, goes down, steel dust remains)

7. Sharp spikes in seismograph readings (Richter 2.1 and 2.3) occurred at the beginning of collapse for both towers. Short duration and high power indicate explosive event.

8. A press weighting 50 tons disappeared from a basement floor of Twin Towers and was never recovered from debris.

9. Wide area electrical outage, repairs took over 3 months. Fusion devices cause EM pulse with Compton Effect.

10. Fires took 100 days to extinguish despite continuous spraying of water. Thermate would cool down much faster.

11. Brown shades of color in the air due nuclear radiation forming sulfuric acid. TV and documentary footage changed the color balance to blue to disguise this fact indicating complicity in the coverup.

12. Elevated Tritium values measured in the WTC area but not elsewhere in New York. Official studies stated that 8 EXIT signs from two commercial Boeing jets were responsible. This is why the "no commercial planes" line of inquiry is very important and should not be ignored or attacked. It can provide conclusive proof of fusion devices and therefore US/Israeli military involvement.

13. Pyroclastic flow observed in the concrete-based clouds. Only found with volcanic eruptions and nuclear detonations. Jim Hoffman unfortunately missed this obvious observation in his papers.

14. Huge expanding dust clouds 5 times the volume of the building indicating extreme levels of heat generated far in excess of traditional demolition explosives.

15. Rubble height was some 10% of the original instead of 33% expected in a traditional demolition. Fusion device removal of underground central steel framework allowed upper framework to fall into this empty space and reduce the rubble height.

16. No survivors found, except some firefighters in one corner pocket in the rubble who looked up to see blue sky above them instead of being crushed by collapsing debris. Upward fusion flashlight beam of destruction missed this pocket but removed debris above firemen.

17. 14 rescue dogs and some rescue workers died far too soon afterward to be attributed to asbestos or dust toxins (respiratory problems due to alpha particles created by fusion that are far more toxic)

18. Record concentrations of near-atomic size metal particles found in dust studies due to ablated steel. Only possible with fusion.

19. Decontamination procedure used at Ground Zero (hi-pressure water spraying) for all steel removed from site. Water spraying contains fusion radiactivity.

20. No bodies, furniture or computers found in the rubble, but intact sheets of paper covered the streets with fine dust. Items with significant mass absorbed fusion energy and were vaporized while paper did not. Paper and Powder theory.

21. 200 000 gallon sprinkler watertanks on the roofs of WTC1 and WTC2, but no water in the ruins. Heat of fusion devices vaporized large reservoirs of water.

22. reports of cars exploding around the WTC and many burned out wrecks could be seen that had not been hit by debris. Fusion energy blast and EM pulse caused electrical components in cars to explode and burn vehicles far from WTC site.

23. EM pulse was recorded by broadcast cameras with high quality electronic circuitry. This occurred at the same time as the seismic peaks recorded by Lamont Doherty during the beginning of the collapse. This is due to the Compton Effect and resulted in a large area power outage at the WTC.


"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain

First of all

I n sticking with the facts,it's not wrong to explore all possiblities.I feel we have more than enough adaquite,and justifiable questions in regaurds to 9/11 to warrant a new,full,and through investigation.
I have to laugh at what i call the non truthers questions such as....How could they keep something this big a secret?What happened to the people on the planes?
DUH? If they thought about it for a minute they would realize that these questions could be answered if everyone demanded the truth.
It blows my mind to have a question rebutted with another question.To bad they lack logic.
Anyway i have read in a few places on the web of clean nukes...So it is possible,but i think it hurts our movement to speculate.
Let's stick to the hard facts.....We can get the details later.

Personally I regard

Personally I regard "mini-nuke @ the wtc" as blatant disinfo, it's too wild and exotic. Any person who's still not managed to bring themselves to question 911 yet, and is exposed to this shit is going to laugh, and I'd laugh to, it's over the top even if true (which I doubt is the case anyway).

Laugh harder.

Reveal your information supporting your argument.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain


People take the time to come here and present what they think... I have spent so many hours on this site the last few weeks it is overwhelming. All of us are the truth seekers and I really feel if somebody is trying to give us a little more insight to what they feel or have found on thier own research, that this is the first forum to present it. (EXCEPT for blatant abuse of this sight ie;No Planes) Anyone here should never have "tunnel vison" in regards to what we all think individually, then we have the potential to be as guilty as the sheep that will never even listen to us in the first place. I am not lashing out, just a thought. This forum in my opinion is a gathering place to present it all, and then debate it.

You guys are great.

No Nukes

The idea that a nuke could have been used at the WTC is beyond reason. If a nuke was used the building would have been pulverized in an instant, not in an cascading fashion over 10 seconds. And compairing plume photos? Come on people, get a grip.


If your going to advance a point. Please take time to appear intelligent.
See above reply.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain

Yeah, like the idea that 911

Yeah, like the idea that 911 was an inside job is beyond reason.

That was sarcasm.

I would not push this aspect

simply because it appears way too outlandish to the common layperson, no matter what. However, in light of the arguments, I'm not willing to discard this theory personally - nukes, as we know, come in almost any size. Now if they managed to direct the blast of a very small type just like a cutting charge...then it might just be possible. I'm very interested in what Steven Jones has to say on this.

But as I said, it would be tactically unwise to push this, we have so much down-to-earth (argh no pun intended) evidence.

Maybe not

...but certainly we need someone researching it. For those of us who were living near Ground Zero in the aftermath, we need to know what we were exposed to. I don't claim to know what the hell we all got hit with...but I'd sure like to find out what REALLY happened, rather than just have everybody espouse the most marketable hypothesis.

For sure!

Absolutely with you here.

Bruce this "Mr Id" is a no

Bruce this "Mr Id" is a "no planes at the wtc" disinfo pusher. Until the new approval/disapproval karma system comes in I'm going to be pointing these individuals out lol.

Why don't you

...have a little yellow Star of David that appears next to such postings, Benito?

i agree

and - as for nukes - for those of us who work and live near ground zero - there is NO residual radiation. period.

plus - the idea that mini-nukes are so small that they can take down the WTC but NOT contaminate the wreckage with radiation is ludicrous. the wreckage would have been contaminated at levels that would have been much higher than those reported,

this has been pointed out multiple times to the 'nukes' crowd - which COINCIDENTALLY is the 'no-planes' crowd that dismisses thousands of eyewitnesses.

never let a fact get in the way of a theory.

Good Points Made

I agree the concept of nukes being used should not pushed to the general public.

However, I do think some advanced technology was used.

Did you read the article related to fusion technology could have been used? A clean fusion reaction would be much cleaner. And could be contained using lots of water.

Here it is again if you missed it.

The US Government’s Usage of Atomic Bombs - Domestic - WTC

I surprise at how many nuke experts we have on 911blogger.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain

First time I'm seeing him here

and I'm always trying to keep an open mind. There was nothing wrong with what he said right there - but still, thanks for the heads up.

i believe some form of

i believe some form of nuclear device was used at the WTC. The chances are it is still top secret so we have no way of knowing what it is.

There is simply no other explanation for the rapid and near-total pulverisation of the concrete. I am no expert so I have no facts to back me up but I am convinced that when the truth is known these facts will be made clear.

It disturbs me greatly to see two leading bloggers here trying to jump on anyone who posts 'way out' theories. That is the way the MSM operate. It has no place in a Truth movement.

Or are we a half-truth movement?

Absolutely the use of nuke

Absolutely the use of nuke is a perfect terror tactic term to ramp up any media source that will jack the news up with more reasons to justify the actions.

The pollution in the air, as proven and ignored is sufficient to show that, and any nuclear material would be easily verified with a simple geiger counter. Total disinfo and mass manipulation attempt. And a particularly transparent one!


Stick with the hard science, folks

(excuse my shouting)

Hurt My Ears!

Read the Jones article. Ward's article on the subject addresses points Jones' misses.

The US Government’s Usage of Atomic Bombs - Domestic - WTC
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"


Such horsesh*t, even MRR would still leave residue radioactive material, especially with the pulverised remains distributed so wide they couldn't prevent it being found! The clear, documented and visable verifiablle information is the thermate/thermite (the flowing steel). If they wanted to be detected easily nuclear would be a beacon due to the spread of the dust, the use of demolition charges and thermite maintained the evidence in a manageable and disposable location. Not only that there is NO NEED for such a device, ffs. Simple, readily available explosives were quite sufficient.

These kinds of comments only fuel the anti-truth movement by giving them another chink to lever as waco!!!!!

CCC-Media: Read, Watch, Think, Decide!


Enough said. We are dealing with a real intellect here.
Won't waste my time with your horseshit no more.

A lot folks seem to get their rocks off with these types of comments.

Deface not debate.

“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

Big Thinker

MRR would still leave residue radioactive material especially with the pulverised remains distributed so wide they couldn't prevent it being found!

From this comment I assume you think Ward is claiming nukes were used for the entire collapse. The evidence presented is only nukes were used at the bedrock foundation of the towers. Your conclusions are not correct based on the story I presented.

Please tell me your background in MRR. And how you know the what you are espousing is correct?

That's OK. I know it will be horseshit.

“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"