Integrating perspectives: 911 according to anti-neocons.com
My comment: I don't neccessarily agree with everything Ryan says 100%, but there is a lot he is 100% right on, and a lot of it is missing pieces in the PNAC area. Gleen and digest
by Ryan Dawson
Some 911 was an inside job camps like to lay out 4 scenarios. Briefly they go as follows.
1 Is the official story.
We got caught with our pants down and terrorists did 911. And the wars in the Middle East are part of the greater war on terrorism.
2 The incompetence excuse
There was information available about the coming attacks but because of our incompetence we failed to see it. Terrorists attacked the US. And the wars in the Middle East were based on mistakes (more incompetence) but now we got to stay.
3 They let it happen
They knew full well about the coming 911 attacks but allowed it to happen in order to use it as a pretext to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan as it was in military and corporate interests (particularly oil) to do so.
4 They made it happen. (They meaning just vaguely the Bush Admin)
The Bush government either helped protect the terrorists or simply used them as patsies, and assisted the plane crashes effects with bombs placed inside the towers prior to 911. The wars in the Middle East were about oil.
The 911 was an inside job camps then say the evidence must land you somewhere between 3 and 4 with more research dropping you firmly on 4.
Let me now throw in a 5th scenario
5 The Neocons Made it happen with the assistance of a foreign government, the same government where PNAC was first written, and who we have caught spies from who have been stealing secrets from us about Iran, and who made up the shadow government of the OSP which is who cherry picked and fabricated the lies told about Iraq in order to start the war. The Wars in the middle east were for separate reasons, Afghanistan was about a few pipelines as noted but more so about controlling large quantities of un-tapped uranium (a reason for both the Russian and US invasions) and secondly for controlling opium as the CIA uses drug money to fund it's off the book black operations such as the now known massive secret prison systems, (torture camps and human medical/scientific testing). Location-wise Afghanistan is coupled with other color coded revolutions to circle China and Russia with US bases and puppets, (add to that the lesser known negotiations with Japan to allow nuclear subs into the Japanese Sea [pointed at China] in exchange for moving troops from Okinawa to Guam). The main goal however, which the PNAC think tank states, is to keep the eye on the pie: Iran, which Afghanistan and Iraq both boarder. The invasion of Iraq was to solve Israel's oil crisis and stop the threat of a secular Middle East which would become a true economic player and was a threat to the aggressive state of Israel.
The evidence if it was ALL being stated, especially pertaining to the war in Iraq, would land you somewhere between scenario 4 and 5 and more research would land you firmly in 5.
A lot of people have written about and shown the problems with official 911 story. There is the demolition of building number 7, which the 911 commission didn't even address, there are the firemen's reports that the fires were almost out, there are numerous reports of secondary explosions etc. Because it has been said on radio and more so because people have made films about it, many people can recite the arguments for the inside job in their sleep. But what has been hidden from you and the dots which have not been connected in any 911 films is the Israeli connection. 911 was an inside job which was part of a larger plan for perpetual war hatched in Israel. 911 and the wars in the Middle East were carefully planned attacks carried out by a faction of Zionist Neocons and the Israeli Mossad. I would like to focus more on who did it rather than just that it was done. We will start with PNAC and then jump and work backwards from the Iraq War to 911.
A lot of people know about PNAC, but very few people have taken a hard look at its origins. People have also gotten confused between the actual authors and people who just signed their letters. Rumsfeld for example is not part of the special in-group as its chairman William Kristol revealed, irronically on the Colbert report. PNAC was co-authored by the same people who have been caught lying about the Iraq War's pre-invasion intelligence. We are talking about only around 25 people who helped fabricate evidence and pass it off to the president and journalists. PNAC's ideas and statements stem from Israeli policy papers. In fact, PNAC's papers were written by the very same people who wrote Israeli policy papers and hold dual citizenship with Israel. The war in Iraq and control over energy resources ect is all lined out in Israel's A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" which was written by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. That is just one of many papers this little blood for money cabal cranked out. The IASPS (Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Science) also wrote a paper called the ]Afghan Vortex a year before the invasion. Note also that the US had ships already in place set to invade before 911. In 1992 Paul Wolfowitz wrote the Defense Planning Guidance, with his former Student Lewis Libby:
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The foreign strategy of the US must be "unapologetic, idealistic, assertive and well funded. America must not only be the world's policeman or its sheriff, it must be its beacon and guide…Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power. These regions include Western Europe, East Asia, the territory of the former Soviet Union, and Southwest Asia…There are three additional aspects to this objective: First the U.S must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. Second, in the non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. Finally, we must maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role." |

Paul Wolfowitz, who is now the head of the WTO, (appointed by Bush) was formerly the Director of Policy Planning in the Defense Department. Like Perle, he was also a "Scoop" Jackson Democrat and worked for Jackson in the 70s. Paul was a principle PNAC author and he openly admitted in Vanity Fair magazine that they settled on WMD as the excuse to use to get a war with Iraq.
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For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on |
"we" Settled on WMDs.... who is "we" could it be the Zionist cabal that had been writing about the desire for a war with Iraq and who set up the OSP? he is also admitting that they were just inventing reasons for war to present to the public.
The Weapons of Mass Destruction claim is important because it was the legal reason for the invasion. If they were complying with UN resolution 1441 then the US did not have grounds to invade. please go here and listen to my Feb 10th radio interview which outlines more background on that as well as the sanctions which helped starve half a million people. Allow that statistic to sink in. 500,000 people mostly children starved to death. Can you comprehend the horror of that? It gets worse, but that is an extra tangent for now.
Paul Wolfowitz presented an open letter to Bill Clinton on January 26, 1998 where the opening lines clearly state the desire to go to war with Iraq. "Wolfowitz urged Clinton to recognize a provisional [Iraqi] government headed by the Iraqi National Congress under Chalabi." Wow sound familiar? This would is what would later become PNAC's doctrine and US foreign policy.
Later in 2000 PNAC released what is normally referred to the document more of you are familiar with which is commonly but mistakenly just called "PNAC" and that was PNAC's magnum opus, the paper, "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces and Resources for a New Century" This is the paper stating the infamous lines about the need for a New Pearl Harbor... P63 The bulk of the document however is about going to war with Iraq. It reiterates what this same dirty cabal had written for Israel's Prime Minister (at that time in 1996) Benjamin Netanyahu.
Now Wolfowitz did not do this on his own, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith and Richard Perle and others who have recently resigned and or are or have been caught up in criminal activity in the past, all took part. PNAC's authors Interestingly

Richard Perle and Wolfowitz both worked as aides to senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson. In 1970 while working for Jackson (A Democrat!) Perle was charged with two heinous acts, spying for the state of Israel and leaking information about the CIA in regards to its nuclear deterrent program, to Russia. Now keep that in mind because it is very important. It's the very same things that have happening with AIPAC and the Plame Affair from under Perle and Feith's offices. Perle is even part of the tax-exempt Henry Jackson Society
Perle is the nastiest of the nasty. In my mind he is The worst Neocon of them all. He has appropriately earned the nickname "The Prince of Darkness." Perle along with Douglas Feith and David Wurmser,(all three of them got jobs in the US defense department, Perle and Fieth have had to resign) authored the Israel's "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm." While speaking to Wolf Blitzer from CNN, a former AIPAC employee, Perle said of Semour Hersh, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who exposed the My Lai massacre of Vietnam and later with the help of Joe Darby, broke the story about the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, "Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist, frankly." And Perle is the author of at least 4 different IASPS papers.
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Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria's regional ambitions. |
Perle helped create

In the run up to the war in Iraq, there was a lot of disinformation. Once again most people know what the lies were concerning the WMDs, the Al Qaeda accusations, the mushroom cloud scare tactics, liberating the Kurds, and lastly the joke of democracy building, which have all been shown to be falsehoods or failures.
What people do not seem to know is who made these fabrications. They assume it was just "Bush" and the vague term "the administration". Well yes it was people in the administration, but who? Well let's break it down.
The second most important scandal in the administration which is currently on trial with it's second trial date set for Jan 07, is the Plame outing and Niger forgeries. The Plame Affair involves Lewis Libby, Wolfowitz former student and PNAC author. Libby got his orders from hirer up.

Lewis "Scooter" Libby was Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff (now resigned after his indictment {which I predicted long before it happened}) and also a presidential advisor. Libby's was a lawyer for 15 years for the billionaire "commodities trader" Marc Rich, a fugitive that Bill Clinton gave a pardon to the last hour he was in Office as President. Libby is also among the Republican pervert crowd writing fictional books about underage Japanese girls getting forcefully raped by a bear in a cage, among other disgusting things I see no point in repeating. This kind of work actually fit perfectly with his client Marc Rich if you know about him. That story is rather interesting and it's in my book, but that's too big a tanget for now. Seriously, there is something deeply wrong with these people.
UPDATE (we now have the Mark Foleywhich is set to widen enormously not in the MSM but on sites like this one). This Abramoff the Zionist criminal lobbiest was paying for congressmen's trips to visit the sex slavery market. We know other high ranking Republicans knew about Mark Foley for months yet they did nothing. I smell something Much deeper at work here. I remember when a man with the same last name, Mick Foley, gave a speech on RAW where he made a play on the smelt-it-delt-it thing, saying often those who are yelling the loudest about something are guilty of it, like Rush Limbaugh ranting about drug use when he was a pill popper and dealer himself. And how the Chicken Hawks call for war. Well, this can include Mark Foley (not Mick) as he was the congressman incharge of writing the laws against pedophiles and missing children! Before someone points it out, yes, Mick Foley was a professional wrestler, so what, so was Jesse Ventura. Like comedy channels Wrestling has actually been a good covert criticsim about politics. Note the NWO in the wrestling world, or the WWE Debates. People can scoff at this but I would argue that in today's world of Faux News that entertainment programs deliver more accurate information than the new networks most notably Comedy Central's Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert. (Note that I am not saying any of these entertainers agree or disagree with me on 911) However when a celebrity speaks out like Charlie Sheen has, they have their opinion judged based on that their profession rather than on its merits.
Andreas von Bulow the former German Defense Minister said on the Alex Jones show April 21, 2006 that this false flag operation [911] had to be carried out by a very small group of people. Alex asked him 100? 40? He said less than that. Right after the second break (which on the QuickTime bar would be right in line with Andreas vo Bulow's right ear) Alex talks about the picture getting more clear as the truth about the wars come out. He then talks about the 25 Neocons who wrote PNAC were in high positions in the DOD and white house and Andreas von Bulow says "sure and part of them wrote the government program for Benjamin Netanyahu... "(Former Prime Minister of Israel). Alex goes on to say who could have done this? Bulow says it was not the CIA and Alex jumps in saying your talking about black ops. Then Alex says we know only a MAJOR STATE could have carried this out? Andreas says it must have been done from high up and it had to be done by a few people. Alex says would you say 100-200, AVB says less, Alex askes 50 people? And AVB says less. Maybe Alex can not say it was the Zionists on the air.
Well I have just been telling who the Neocons who wrote PNAC and were embeded in the DOD were. They are the Zionist cabal.
Bush and his merry band of sadistic Zionists would like to blame shift the responsibility of the WMDs myths to the CIA. Well as evil and corrupt as the CIA is, it is not that sloppy. Bush did not just get "mistaken intelligence" or make "miscalculations" he explicitly asked for fabrications.
Here is the concrete proof that they lied. One of Bush's claims about Iraq was that Saddam was trying to acquire yellow-cake uranium from Africa. This rhetoric was further laced in fear by Neo-condelsleeza Rice saying we could not let the smoking gun be a mushroom cloud. What outrageous audacity, (they are even re-using the same fear-mongering excuses to attack Iran) they were dead wrong as Tenet would later have to admit.
Well the document that Bush based this claim on was a fake! How do we know? Because the signature on it was forged. How do we know? Because the forgers put down the wrong person's name. The Foreign minister from Niger, the country they were claiming Saddam was gathering uranium from, who supposedly signed it had been out of power since 1989. Allele Elhadj Habibou was not in power at the time of the supposed signature. Look here I have the primary documents and a summary.
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In a letter from the President of Niger a reference is made to the constitution of May 12, 1965 -- but the constitution is dated August 9, 1999; Another letter purports to be signed by Niger's foreign minister, but bears the signature of Allele Elhadj Habibou, the minister between 1988-89; An obsolete letterhead is used, including the wrong symbol for the presidency, and references to state bodies such as the Supreme Military Council and the Council for National Reconciliation are incompatible with the letter's date; It wasn't until just before the war began that Mohamed El Baradei, IAEA director-general, told the UN Security Council on March 7 that his team and 'outside experts', had worked out that ' these documents ... are in fact not authentic'. |
Now that must be embarrassing. Be nice if the mainstream media would report that. Now are you ready to get pulled out of the rabbit hole some more? I will come back to just who forged these documents. (Ahmad Chalabi , Francis Brookes, Dewey Clarridge, and Michael Ledeen. ) First let's see how they got into the president's hands. Bush said, these well known false claims, as if they were true in his State of the Union Address. It has now been called is infamous 16 words, which he could be impeached for if we had an actual opposition party.
The disinformation was stove piped straight to Cheney/Bush by a little known shadow government called the OSP the Office of Special Plans, headed under Cheney and Rumsfeld and a pack of Zionists underlings, yes the same ones who co-authored PNAC and the Clean Break for Israel.
In an attempt to shut up people who tried to tell the public that the uranium claim was a lie, and as a means to prevent the CIA from catching who forged the documents, and as means to once again undermine the US's ability to track nuclear weapons thus creating wiggle room to lie about Iran, a clandestine CIA agent and her front company BJA was uncovered when journalists from the NY Times and CNN were purposely slipped information by Cheney's Chief of Staff, Lewis Libby and Presidential advisor Karl Rove. To unravel all of this please go
here
We now have Libby admitting that Bush and Cheney authorized him to leak the information, yet another offense they could both be impeached for were we to have a functional Republic. Remember that Libby was also a co-author of PNAC and worked with Wolfowitz under Cheney in Bush the first's presidency. Interesting isn't it?
Don't worry it gets worse. Notice that this is something that Richard Perle got in trouble for in the past. Perle has resigned from his position in the Department of Defense. He did so just after AIPAC's headquarters was physically raided by the FBI, how coincidental. What is AIPAC? Well AIPAC would be Israel's largest lobby. (In reality it is a Zionist lobby and it does not benefit Israel per-se, it benefits the MIC). A man working for Perle in the DOD named Larry Franklin has gotten sentenced to 12 years in jail for passing off top secret documents to AIPAC who in turn gave them to the Israeli government through the Israeli embassy in DC. Go read about that scandal here
So Israel has been caught spying on the US again what is new other than the fact that a foreign government can get caught spying in the US in a time of war and the Media will not report it. Just imagine if it had been Korean spies instead of Jews, and how big this story would be. Also imagine that were attacking Korea's enemies and were following a war plan written off of Korean policy papers and a disproportionate number of the authors were all Korean Americans who were still in government and had dual citizenship to North Korea. Ha ha not a chance but you see Israel can get away with it because Israel is a cash cow for the Military-Industrial-Complex.
Corporations have obviously profiteered from the wars, that should be clear to captain obvious. But did they write, implement, and use deception, to start this war or was that the Zionists? Who got caught spying on the US, Halliburton or Israel? Israel that is who. The profiteering is a by product of the war as in any war. They are all in bed together because of overlapping interests between the military related corporations and the Zionists. Zionism which allows a standing army to invade Palestine in order to protect illegal racil colonies of religious fanatic who think GOD gave them the land they bulldozed and shot children for in order to steal it...
However, just how the Hell do they get away with it? Well they are free from any and all criticism because they play the two cards which an over-socialized liberal can not see through. They play the race card and the religion card, a double whammy. If you say the J word it is over, even if Israel has an illegal military occupation and sets up racially segregated colonies into Palestine, kills kids, knocks down homes of civilians and attacks them with a military and runs a brutal police state which is causing a backlash of terrorism on Israeli people (racist or not that is not a reason to kill someone). The Zionists are the real racist, engaging in ethnic cleansing in the name of defense and calling any opposition terrorists. They are creating terrorism by engaging in it themselves. Video link Israel can do ANYTHING and the press will not mention. But then again just who owns our press and our banks?...
This site has this video up in the best of section, I highly recommend seeing "Peace Propaganda and the Promised Land"to learn more about the relationships between Israel and the US media. Visit our video section and watch all those films.
The first proposed oil pipeline to be opened in Iraq was set to go to Tel Aviv Israel. Here is where they planned it ten days before the end of the war. And here is where they planned setting up another oil pipeline to Israel, this one going to Haifa. And they now pump oil from Mosul to Hiafa Golly gee, that is interesting why was all the oil planned to go to Israel?
Oh it gets worse. The US sends oil to Israel from Iraq then buys it from Israel.
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One of Israel's largest oil marketing firms has won a multi-million dollar tender to supply fuel to US troops in Iraq. According to a IsraelNationalNews.com report, the tender awarded to Sonol gasoline company, along with its foreign partner Morgantown International, is valued at $70-80 million. The company is expected to supply the US forces with 25 million litres of fuel each month. The tender was issued by the US-based KDR Company, a subsidiary of Halliburton, which has been entrusted with the majority of US military contracts in Iraq |
Israel takes US aid and buys oil from Iraq at 20% less than the cost it gets it from Russia and then sells it to the US and is also awarded contracts by the US government.
Well Israel did have an oil problem.
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Information provided by the EIA states that in April 2003, there was some discussion of "reopening" the old oil pipeline from Mosul in Northern Iraq to the Israeli port of Haifa on its northern Mediterranean coast. The line, which was built in the 1930s, carried 100,000 barrels a day at its peak, but has been closed since Israel's establishment in 1948. The reopening of this pipeline is, on the other hand, reported as being able to "solve Israel's energy crisis at a stroke". |
But that is not all. They took oil from Kirkuk where 40% of Iraq's oil is and Hafar al Batin, Al Basrah (Basara) and Mosul too. Here is a map of where Iraq's oil is going.

It's a war for oil the left shouts. "No blood for oil" they say. Yeh that's true, 'no blood for oil' going to Israel, while our own gas prices rise.
If PNAC was written by Zionist who rewrote what they wrote in Israel and presented it in the US then what exactly did the UK get out of it? Come back to that later.
Now 911. Back in Feb 2001 the US and UK attacked Iraq with much public Backlash. Bush bombed Baghdad just two weeks after being sworn in to office. He tried to start PNAC's plan then but the public was not having it. They needed that New Pearl Harbor event that PNAC said would be necessary.
They rigged it with the Mossad's help on 911.
here is how we know
Note the 5 dancing Israelis who had bomb sniffing dogs reacting to their van and who worked for a Mossad front, a fake moving company in NJ whose owner skipped town right after 911 and fled to Israel. Note that they all failed polygraph tests and were all x-military and oh geee explosive experts.
Note the following bogus Anthrax attacks which said "DEATH TO AMERICA DEATH TO ISRAEL" This was a huge story for a few day, long enough to pass the PATRIOT Act and then simultaneously it disappeared from all the News Networks over night. What a media coincidence huh? Putting it all together is easy. If 911 was an inside job and not the work of Al Qaeda (but patsies) then the anthrax didn't come from Al Qaeda either. I wonder who sent it? I wonder where it came from? They basically named themselves in the classic Owellian double speak. America and Israel.
These things are not mentioned in 911 video alt radio and of course not on TV. Zionism is THE most sacred subject in the US. One mention of it and you are automatically and Anti-Semite. Well it is time to grow some balls and start talking about the Elephant in the room. Neocons from Israel and America started these wars and carried out 911. That's the real 911 Truth.
New Information 100% proof Atta had a double
Red this summation of the how Atta was framed by the Mossad.
New Information Press caugh in t huge lie about another Hijacker. Ziad Al Jarrah was recently (October 2006) shown in a video tape dated 2000-2001 with a full beard yet we have pictures of him all through out the same year clean shaven.
The MIC overlaps with the Zionism as half the CFRs are PNAC authors and all Jewish Zionist. The reason being Jewish matters is that for some kooky reason just by having that religion (which is really an ethnicity in disguise, as you have to prove you are "Jewish" by ancestry to pass, allows one to have dual citizenship with another country and government, Israel. Thus they put the interests of a foreign government above the US.) I would throw the UN in there, they are puppets to the Banks which are also Zionist run and owned and have been since the days of the Rothchilds. The Veto Power rest with the colonial powers. However the "third" world is rising up.
The ugly 'Mega' Zionist Ricahrd Perle (PNAC founder) buddied up with the Super Zionist, wormy five foot two Henry Kissinger who was the first choice to head up the 911 commission whose credibility is so poor that he had to decline the offer and gave it to another Zionist Jew Michael Chertoff, whose cousin is the editor of Popular Mechanics a BS publication that tries to debate 911 with the likes of the 'Loose Change' folks who don't even mention Zionism and spout off class C arguments like the pentagon was hit by amissile and cell phones could not work on the planes. My advice is stick to Class A arguements, Building 7, Bush saw the first plane hit, and follow the money. (In their defense they were never trying to lay blame on anyone, but just stating what was fishy about 911.) Perle and Kissinger (Satan and Beelzebub) set up something called the Trireme Partners company. They raise venture capital from wealthy individuals and invest it into weapon companies, who they bet will get lucrative government contracts and thus raise their stock prices. But they know who getting the contracts, it's insider trading. The defense industries and the companies under that massive umbrella corporation normally have ties to government employees. Kissinger didn't call it insider trading, he called it 'guaranteed speculation'. -Video
This is how the Zionist feed into the MIC. And the conflict in Israel with basically the entire Middle East is a cash cow for the military investments. It creates the demand.

These companies are not simply just American companies, most of them are multi-national with no loyalties to anyone aside from whichever government is the current medium they can use to pipe them money. And the money awarded to the companies by the State issued (aka communism, yes welcome to the USSA) contracts is not just the allocation of our tax money, the government is speanding way more than that (even when military spending consist of over half our tax money!). They are borrowing money by buying bonds from the Federal Reserve, which they have to pay interest on, in order to pay for the MIC pork projects and blood for oil and ethnic cleansing campaigns. We have created a 8.5 trillion dollar national debt. The Central banks as you know are rooted back to the same Zionists who wrote the plans for foreign policy (PNAC and ISCB) and collect from the investors. The largest investor of them all is not the wealthy individuals; it's the multi billion dollar tax free institutions more popularly known as Protestant Churches.
Here is where it gets nasty. Religion has been perverted. The Christian-crazies are the kind of Christians who get to be on TV because they promote what is profitable for the government and themselves, are bankrolling the Zionist occupation and the yummy military related conflicts/projects it creates. Sane Christians don't get to have a TV show like Pat Robertson. Obviously the corrupt churches who pocket money are the ones who are going to rise in voice and power that is a no-brainer.
These people then promote the bigotry behind the "Settlements" and their racist attitudes. They can manipulate their flocks to vote for people like G.W. as they did in 2004 largely based on prejudice towards homosexuals. Christian Zionist have a happy alliance with the Jewish Zionists. They are not just using this to make money either. They are actually backwards enough that they believe all that "temple on the mount" rhetoric.
Tied to all of this is the corporate media and the banks. See the links. Wanna know what really happened on 911 go follow the Zionist like Larry Silverstein. And no it was not satanic groups, the Vatican, or the "illuminati." It was real people with real names. This blog is just the surface of it. But believe me it is rooted in Zionism.
You can watch vidoes I made about the things I have been saying
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Brilliant: Bush Government is Off the Hook ?
Your option 5 is "The Neocons Made it happen with the assistance of a foreign government".
Therefore, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rusmfeld are off the hook (they are the minions of the Zionists who control America and the World).'
The Brits and Pakistanis get a pass.
The 9/11 Movement gets routed to your favorite mania.
Congrats!!
PS: Read the "Secret War Against the Jews" by John Loftus (an Irish Catholic). He points out how the clever Aryan bluebloods that have been in control of the US and Europe for the past century have cleverly set up Jews and Zionists as the fall guys when their schemes go awry. This will no doubt be the alibi of the Bush admin crooks and criminals as they are frog-marched off to Gitmo. It's nice for them you will be singing the same tune.
so Wolfowitz Perle and Feith are conspiring with bluebloods
to frame Jews and have them be the fall guys? No doubt those Mossad agents dancing and photographing the burning towers before accusing Palestinians of being behind it were also charged with framing Jews. Except that they goofed and blamed Palestinians. Talk about oxymoronic intelligence agents! Shalom. Dear Shalom. Do you really want to help Jews? Stop lying. Just stop. Try to understand that when you so blatantly attempt to deflect scrutiny away from Israel and Zionists, you are creating bad-blood and acting in a way that makes people think of supporters of Israel as incorrigible pathological liars. This does not help Jews. Tying an entire group's fate and reputation to the corrupt actions of a subset of that group is reprehensible. No one is giving Brits, Pakistanis, or any "Aryan blueblood" a pass simply because they point out the obvious complicity of the Zionist Neocon cabal in the crimes of 9/11 and beyond. What we ARE saying is that Israel must be held to the same standard as every other nation and be responsible for the actions of its government and intel agents. To cry anti-semitism every single time Israel is criticized has long ceased being an effective tool and is now seen for what it is--a cynical attempt to exonerate Israel for responsibility to behave in a manner befitting a civilized nation state. People like you who cannot see Israel's faults or crimes and accuse those who do of being bigoted against Jews should really think about how your behavior reflects on those you claim to represent.
Excellent analysis
Bush is not off the hook of course, but for those who say Bush could not possibly have placed the explosives in the towers all by himself and so 9/11 could not have been anything but the work of Muslim extremists, well, here's a bunch of stuff you're conveniently ignoring, n'est-ce pas?
The Real Perps of 9/11
Why would anyone say Bush could not arrange to have explosives placed in WTC "all by himself" ? He controls a country with 300,000,000 people with the most powerful military apparatus in the world.
Why would he need to subcontract the planting of explosives out to 5 Mossad agents from Israel (population about 1% of US), or British, or Pakistani agents ? In addition, since it appears clear that a 757 passenger jet did not hit the Pentagon, are we to also assume that Bush subcontracted this hit out, and had a foreign government fire a missile into the Pentagon ? I think not.
Since it is clear Bush could arrange to have a missile fired into the Pentagon, why would assume he could not arrange to have some CIA spooks salt the WTC with explosiives ?
It is obvious that whatever was done to create the Pentagon hoax, mine the towers, and control the airways on 9/11 COULD ONLY HAPPEN under the control of the US government and military.
Given this fact, it would be extremely foolish to add in a few bit players from ANY foreign intelligence service, since they could blow the entire operation, their allegiances are to their own governments, and if they were brought into the inner circle, it would mean that the other government would have information that could be used to blackmail American in perpetuity (of course, this will just lead you to assume the US is that stupid).
Another observation: if the Mossad were involved, it would be their very top agents, who are the ultiimate professionals (like the cadre of Americans who ran the 9/11 op), and they would NEVER be so foolish as to be dancing in public, and drawing attention to themselves. Do you believe the American agents who ran this op would be so foolish as to be dancing in the streets ?
The bottom line is clear:
- It seems beyond absurd that Bush would subcontract out pieces of 9/11 to foreign governments, when the command, control, and logistics of the attacks were contained in his own circle
- Even if this ridiculous scenario occured, the primary initiators of this event would be the government of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice, with the enthusiastic support of the US evangelical right.
I believe it serves your purpose to ignore all the other facts that frame what happened on 9/11. You do have a pre-existing agenda, n'est-ce pas?
why use mossad?
Because maybe the planes crashing into the buildings had Bush's blessing but not the demolitions. The planes would have been enough to scare America into a war. Demolishing the buildings on top of rescuers was just plain evil and unnecessary to convince Americans to go to war, ESPECIALLY in the case of building 7. So... who benefitted? Larry Silverstein. He profited to the tune of billions. So Georgie put him up to it? The planes alone hitting the towers would have been very difficult to prove as a frame up. The demolition of the towers was tacked on for some reason, and Larry Silverstein lining his pockets would seem to be one of those. The demolition also facilitated the theft of whatever gold may have been in the towers, and we know building 7 contained evidence and case files for thousands of cases of wall street fraud. Did evil Jewish geniuses cook this up? No. Did some unbelievably crooked poeple who happened to be Jewish and partisans of Israel have a hand in it? Undoubtedly. Did they come up with the idea in the first place, of having planes hit the towers? Did they sell it as just that? Who knows. I somehow doubt that George "only the strong brain cells survive" Bush came up with this plan. No, I would put my money on the pro-Israel, pro-Military Industrial Complex, pro-corruption, pro-Noble Lie Neocons led by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Feith, et al having come up with the entire scheme and enlisting the vile Mr. Silverstein to be the front man for the demolition portion. Did he hire some of the Mossad agents who were conveniently already in America for their extensive spying operation? I'd like to find out. Did he hire the Loizeaux family? I'd like to know. So Shalom, instead of transparently defending parties that are clearly guilty of something, even if it isn't everything, why don't you join us in calling for a full and open-ended investigation into 9/11 and every related scandal? Could it be that you're trying to keep Israel from being implicated in any of this? Could it be because you know that with Americans learning about Israeli spying, AIPAC, Pollard, the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair, the Jenin Massacre, etc. etc., that complicity in 9/11 might be the last nail in the coffin of blind US support for a two-faced (if indeed it's that few) so-called ally like Israel? I think maybe, Shalom.
You Believe Your Own Speculation and IGNORE History
I don't need to join "you" in calling for a full and open-ended investigation into 9/11 and every related scandal - as part of the 9/11 truth movement BEFORE it became a movement, I've been promoting this for years.
I think you need a class in logic and reasoning - there is nothing wrong with speculation, but in your case, your assumptions and speculations appear to miraculously appear as facts in your mind:
For example, many of us recognize that the "shock and awe" of 9/11 REQUIRED that the WTC's collapse, and REQUIRED that 1,000s of victims and heroes, and REQUIRED that BOTH New York and DC be hit.
If the only damage on 9/11 was a couple of planes hitting the WTC, it would be a repeat of the 1993 hit - it NEVER would have given Bushitler control of American.
By the way, you conveniently IGNORE the Pentagon, since all you speculations and assumptions cannot pretend that this was done by your arch-enemies, Israel and the Mossad.
Now let's look a the "piggyback" theory: this assumes that Silverstein and the Jewish cabal STABBED the nice Gentile perps Bush and Cheney in the back. Somehow, in your fantasyland, Silverstein and his army of INTERNATIONAL JEWISH BANKERS penetrated an incredibly TOP SECRET U.S. operation, knew of all the details of the plot and the timing to hit the towers with planes, and then, unbenownst to the FBI, CIA, and military who were all over the WTC, managed to set up the explosives, and bring down the buildings in such a way as to make it appear that it was due to the impacts.
So, Anonymous, while you are exploring the BAD things that happen in history "AIPAC, Pollard, the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair, the Jenin Massacre", why don't you follow your own advice and look into ALL SCANDALS OF HISTORY ? If you love humanity, I'm sure your heart goes out to all the victims in human history, and you are outraged by all the injustice.
I think I know the answer, because instead of loving humanity, you really just HATE the Jews, Israel and Zionism....Otherwise, at the same time you criticize these entities (which I think are fair game), you would be man enough, and human enough, to acknowledge that in the history of the world, throughout the ages (example: consider the Crusades, the Inquisiton, and the Holocaust) you'd recognize that it not the Jews, and not the Muslims, but in fact the Christian nations of Europe and the US who have murdered tens of millions in war, genocide, and famine. And you KNOW the best, and in fact the only, DEFENSE against this CAN ONLY BE AN OFFENSE.
Not that I think anything you say is valid, but...
Who founded Christianity?
Yep, that would be Jews. So if you really want to rest on the argument that Christians have been evil throughout history, you won't get any argument from me, but not because Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, but because it's just another example of how ignorant people have been controlled throughout history and pitted against each other by elites using the Abrahamic faiths as their cover. When was the last war that was fought for Buddha? Or for Shiva? Or for Gaea?
So yes, if the current Nazi pope were to disappear along with all the militant Mullahs and Zionists of the world, I don't think many people would be too broken up.
This is not about religions, this is about liars, criminal states, greed, and a whole lot of other stuff you should be focusing on instead of accusing people of bigotry against Jews when no one has said a word about them as a group. YOU are the one injecting that vile racist crap into this discussion as a pretext for defending criminals and murderers and their apologists. But I know you're frustrated precisely because you know you're losing this battloe for hearts and minds. Every day in every way, my friend.
thanks for keeping your
thanks for keeping your arguement social both of you.
now wrap it up and move on ;)
Amen
Let's focus on Bushitler.
My personal opinion
I think mossad had some sort of operational level hand in the plot. bush cheney ect, are NOT off the hook because they were still part of the plot. The PNAC/zionist connection is well established and verifiable.
I think it's funny this post brings out all the unregistered lurkers, and irrational responses.