Another Smoking Gun: Condi & Crew Knew!

Source: ny911truth.org

by Les Jamieson
10-7-06

Famed Watergate reporter Bob Woodward is out with a new book, State of Denial. While it focuses on the lies of Bush and Rumsfeld regarding Iraq, it reveals that Condaleeza Rice was warned on July 10, 2001 by George Tenet and his counter-terrism expert, Cofer Black, that a serious attack was imminent.

In essence, Woodward shows that Condi blocked this key warning with what Tenet called "a brush-off". This is gross dereliction of duty and malfeasance, which are seriously punishable crimes. She then perjured herself in front of the 9/11 Commission, as is seen in the Mitchell article excerpt below, when she said the Aug. 6th Presidential Daily Briefing wasn't specific, was past tense, and only mentioned threats from abroad! After these criminal acts, SHE GOT PROMOTED TO SECRETARY OF STATE! What does this say? It incriminates the whole administration.

So here are some sources:

Book Says Bush Ignored Urgent Warning on Iraq
NY Times, September 29, 2006
By DAVID E. SANGER

The 537-page book describes tensions among senior officials from the very beginning of the administration. Mr. Woodward writes that in the weeks before the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Tenet believed that Mr. Rumsfeld was impeding the effort to develop a coherent strategy to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. Mr. Rumsfeld questioned the electronic signals from terrorism suspects that the National Security Agency had been intercepting, wondering whether they might be part of an elaborate deception plan by Al Qaeda.

On July 10, 2001, the book says, Mr. Tenet and his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, met with Ms. Rice at the White House to impress upon her the seriousness of the intelligence the agency was collecting about an impending attack. But both men came away from the meeting feeling that Ms. Rice had not taken the warnings seriously.

(more after the jump..)


Chance at Osama pre 9/11, sez book
BY BILL HUTCHINSON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sept. 29, 2006

The CIA'S top counterterrorism officials felt they could have killed Osama Bin Laden in the months before 9/11, but got the "brushoff" when they went to the Bush White House seeking the money and authorization.

CIA Director George Tenet and his counter-terrorism head Cofer Black sought an urgent meeting with then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice on July 10, 2001, writes Bob Woodward in his new book "State of Denial."

They went over top-secret intelligence pointing to an impending attack and "sounded the loudest warning" to the White House of a likely attack on the U.S. by Bin Laden. Woodward writes that Rice was polite, but, "They felt the brushoff." Tenet and Black were both frustrated.

Black later calculated that all he needed was $500 million of covert action funds and reasonable authorization from President Bush to go kill Bin Laden and "he might be able to bring Bin Laden's head back in a box," Woodward writes. Black claims the CIA had about "100 sources and subsources" in Afghanistan who could have helped carry out the hit.

Woodward claims the intelligence Tenet and Black shared with Rice included communication intercepts indicating the likelihood of an Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil. Tenet said he had hoped the meeting would shock Rice into encouraging the President to take immediate action against Al Qaeda.

Black, looking back at the July 10, 2001, meeting with Rice, concludes, "The only thing we didn't do was pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her [Rice's] head." Woodward says that Tenet described the meeting as a "tremendous lost opportunity to prevent or disrupt the 9/11 attacks."

Tenet also claims that his alarm over Bin Laden was downplayed by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who asked, "Could all this be a grand deception?"

Now combine this information with the following facts.

In the spring of 2001 John Ashcroft was told by FBI Director Louis Freeh of the growing threat of terrorism. According to Freeh, "he didn't want to hear about it". Ashcroft was warned of a threat assessment 16 days after the July 10th meeting between Tenet and Rice and then would only fly on private chartered aircraft.

James Ridgeway wrote in the Village Voice on March 21st, 2006:

From the onset of his tenure, Attorney General John Ashcroft had at first received, but later rejected briefings on the Al Qaeda threat. Ashcroft killed an August 2001 plea for an additional $58 million to combat Al Qaeda. In May that year, Ashcroft put out a memo outlining strategic goals of the Justice Department. It made no mention of counterterrorism. Subsequently, in testimony before the 9-11 Commission, Ashcroft blamed the Clinton administration for terrorism failures and said he thought any attack would come from abroad.

Former Acting FBI Director Thomas Pickard stated in a staff report and in public testimony that Ashcroft told him in the summer of 2001 that “he did not want to hear” additional information about possible attacks.

On Sept. 10th Ashcroft sent a budget proposal to the White House for 68 different programs. Counter-terrorism wasn't included. In a memo sent to heads of departments stating seven priorities, again counter-terrorism wasn't included. At no time did he take action to avert the growing threat. Instead, it's clear he did the opposite.

Donald Rumsfeld was also told of the threat by Tenet within a week of the July 10th meeting with Rice.

The Aug. 6th Presidential Briefing entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within the U.S." was delivered to George W. Bush at his Crawford, TX ranch by a CIA briefer. In the recent book by Pulitzer-prize winning journalist Ron Suskind called "The One Percent Doctrine", Bush's response to the CIA briefer was, "All right ... You've covered your ass, now." So much for being strong on terror, folks.

In yet another blatant piece of evidence shattering the credibility of the 9/11 Commission, on January 8th, 2004 former CIA George Tenet had told the Commission of his July 10th meeting with Rice. However, they inexplicably neglected to include this revelation in their report.

Conclusion: Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Ashcroft were duly warned in the months prior to 9/11 of an impending attack and did nothing. The people of the world must clearly understand the implications of this high level chain-of-command malfeasance, note the pattern of suspicious behavior, consider that there was an obvious and highly orchestrated cover-up, analyze how the attacks enabled the military/industrial/petroleum complex and the neocon agenda to implement their agenda of global and domestic aggression. The plans to invade Afghanisan and and Iraq were in place and the PATRIOT Act was already written. The evidence of just this area of 9/11 analysis is sufficiently incriminating to warrant outrage and action by all who clamor for a government bound by the highest standards of justice and accountability. As usual, mainstream media and Congress won't take the necessary action. Let's seize the opportunity to create an everwhelming demand for truth-based responsible leadership. Silence is not an option.

Sources:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,719231,00.html
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0612,ridgeway,72620,2.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4721976/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html?PHPSESSID=35538f0f0a27829a3e2ae4bfc8f7d234
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/15662785.htm

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Show "The 9/11 Truth Movement: pathological denial" by Anonymous (not verified)

did you write that yourself

did you write that yourself or just cut and paste "Anonymous"?

  "Denial is related to

 


"Denial is related to repression, a similar defense mechanism, but denial is more pronounced or intense. Denial involves some impairment of reality. Pathological denial is irrational denial in the face of conclusive evidence."

Hey -- isn't this a perfect description of those who desperately try to believe the "official" truth? And I surely know a few people around me who indeed do actively attempt to believe the official spin. (I'm not talking about the "masses" who do not reflect upon what they see on TV at all...)


 

"[....] self-deception has an active role in enhancing happiness. Thus, self-deceivers not only block threatening information, but actively search for information to enhance the self."

Same thing here....

Now, is it funny or tragic that "Anonymous" does not see his quotes are probably a perfect self-description of him/herself? Wink


 

perfectly on target

supporters of fascism are heavily reliant upon self-deception.

"There are none so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free" (Goethe)..... a paraphrase from V: Cast aside the illusions. Only when you are finally hopeless can you truly be free.

How could you miss this?

"Pathological denial is irrational denial in the face of conclusive evidence."

The 9/11 Truth Movement has done everything in its power to deny conclusive and overwhelming evidence without providing anything to refute it. You are in complete and utter denial of the facts of reality and the physical evidence. You have nothing but "imaginary scenarios" behind you claims that 9/11 was an inside job and that buildings were blown up.

Face reality - you've got a huge psychological problem dealing with reality.

Hello pot...

This is kettle.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Let me get this straight..,

So you're saying that our Government didn't lie about ANYTHING regarding 9/11? You're saying our Government told us everything there is to know in regards to 9/11? You're saying they didn't hide anything from the public regarding 9/11?

Is that what you're saying?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Nope

It's clear what I am saying. Are you having trouble reading?

Explain your meaning

Here is the full quote:

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this,’" says O’Neill. “For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap."

My meaning?

I really don't think there's any other way to interpret that quote.

What's the title of the article?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

You suffer more than others

You've adequately demonstrated that you suffer from pathological denial more than most here, Chris.

You can't even read a sentence and know the difference between a quote and a non-quote.

Seek help. It's available to you.

*Yawn*

God the trolls around this place are so boring. There are lots of resources on the web on how to troll effectively. Are you even trying?

yeah this is generally one

yeah this is generally one of the best 9/11 forums, because most people obey the DON'T FEED THE TROLLS rule. Come on Jon, Chris, you know better... it's not like he even knew what he was talking about...

None.

"self-deception has an active role in enhancing happiness. Thus, self-deceivers not only block threatening information, but actively search for information to enhance the self."

Funny thing is, that applies perfectly to the official conspiracy dupes. I've never found the cold, hard truth about Pearl Harbor, The USS Liberty, Operation Nothwoods, JFK, The Gulf of Tonkin or 911 to be 'happiness enhancing' what so ever.

"Ignorance Is Bliss".... So very true.

Youtube Denial

Youtube is one of the fronteirs in the infowar.Please help me convince a well -meaning left gatekeeper that many Americans and Canadians support 911 truth ,by commenting on and bringing to the forefront of youtube his vidblog on "the 911 truth movement".Search for Warren25 and 911 and let's do what we did so well with the recent Kristol clip.

DENIAL?,no correct size holes in any 911 pentagon pictures

DENIAL ANYONE?,,,FORGET ABOUT THAT STORY, YOU ALL MISSED A POINT ON 911

so far,,,,no correct size holes in any 911 pentagon pictures

THEREFORE,,,,woops..AND SO FAR,,,,,,THERE IS NO HOLE IN THE PENTAGON ON 911

HEY I WAS ORIGINALLY A 911 MISSLE CONSPIRATIST ...BUT AFTER A VERY CAREFUL AND THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF ALL THE CIVILIAN AND GOVERNMENT PICTURES TAKEN OF THE PENTAGON ON 911.....I CAN NOT FIND ONE SINGLE PICTURE OR VIDEO THAT SHOWS A HOLE IN THE FRONT OF THE PENTAGON THAT IS (BIG) ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A PLANE NOR A MISSLE HITTING THE FRONT OF IT.

THE VIDEOS RELEASED BY THE PENTAGON AND THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT ARE TOTALLY FAKE AND DOCTORED AND AN INSULT TO ALL OF US.

SO CAN SOMEONE PLEASE LEAD ME TO A URL THAT SHOWS THE CORRECT SIZE HOLE IN THE PENTAGON?....A HOLE THAT ALSO LINES UP CORRECTLY THE OTHER "RING" HOLES IN THE PENTAGON AS WELL. Because otherwise, what made the damage to the front of the Pentagon, could ONLY have been an ouside bomb(while the inside damage was already faked and ready).

I AM SO ADADMENT PROVING THAT NOT ONLY DID A PLANE NOT HIT THE PENTAGON NOR DID A MISSLE.. THAT IF SOMEONE CAN PROVIDE THE PERFECT AND NONE DOCTORED UP PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE PENTAGON THAT CLEARLY SHOWS A HOLE THAT FITS TO A MISSLE(911 CONSPIRATISTS) OR A PLANE(THAT SUPPORTS THE CRIME RIDDEN WHITE HOUSE VERSION OF A REAL TERRORIST ATTACK),,,THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAND OVER $1,000.00 TO THE WINNER.

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"There are none so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free" (Goethe)..... a paraphrase from V: Cast aside the illusions. Only when you are finally hopeless can you truly be free.

Your Citations Argue for the Veracity of 9/11 Truth Movement

Hello, Anonymous. Your assertions that "The 9/11 Truth Movement: pathological denial," and "Denial and self-deception helps the 9/11 Truth Movement" are non sequiturs that don't follow from the quotes you cite.

Indeed, the argument you present via the provided quotes actually strongly bolsters the veridicality of the 9/11 Truth movement, since it's far, far harder and much more depressing to come to terms with the fact that we are reigned over by a mass-murding ruling elite who don't hesitate to murder us en masse to obtain more power for themselves.

This is the same exact reason that governments have been able to murderously slaughter such hugely monolithic numbers of their very own subjects throughout history, because people avoid coming to terms with the hard, hated, and feared truth regarding their "own" government's malevolent usurpations and rapine against them.

More than four times the amount of non-combatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes killed from 3,500,000 to over 4,300,000 of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own subjects since 1917. And Germany murdered some 16 million of it own subjects in the past century. (The preceding figures are from Prof. Rudolph Joseph Rummel's website at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/ .)

All totaled, neither the private-sector crime which government is largely responsible for promoting and causing or even the wars committed by governments upon the subjects of other governments come anywhere close to the crimes government is directly responsible for committing against its own citizens--certainly not in amount of numbers. Without a doubt, the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.

Needless to say, all of these government mass-slaughters were conspiracies--massive conspiracies, at that.

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."--H. L. Mencken

You illustrate pathological denial perfectly.

In your mixed-up effort, you are illustrating the pathological necessity of having to even DENY that the 9/11 Truth Movement is in pathological denial.

Your denial consists of avoiding HAVING to present evidence that our government was responsible for 9/11; that it blew up buildings, crashed planes, made it happen, let it happen. You have nothing to support you accept imaginary post hoc fallacies.

You are in complete pathological denial just that you HAVE to provide actual, REAL, conclusive, and OVERWHELMING evidence to refute what all of the evidence of what happened on 9/11 demonstrates.

Until you recognize your problem, you guys of the 9/11 Truth Movenment will just mumble endlessly to yourselves, proclaiming that you are the ones who see the light. The world marvels at your denial.

Again, the Citations Cited Bolster the 9/11 Truth Movement

Hello, Anonymous. Are you the same Anonymous who posted the above message providing quotes as to how people go into denial in order to avoid coming to terms with scary and hard truths that are depressing?

If so, then you are the one who provided the quotes which argue for the veracity of the 9/11 Truth movement. If you are a different Anonymous, then you are hereby not addressing the fact that the said quotes actually bolster the veridicality of the 9/11 Truth movement, since it's far, far harder and much more depressing to come to terms with the fact that we are reigned over by a mass-murding ruling elite who don't hesitate to murder us en masse to obtain more power for themselves.

As far your non sequitur assertion of me presenting a "post hoc" fallacy, "post hoc" simply is Latin for "after this." Perhaph you meant the post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy, but nowhere in my above comments did I present such an argument.

For massive amounts of hardcore documentation proving up one side and down the other that the U.S. government staged the 9/11 attacks from beginning to end, see the below two pages by me:

"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth

"9/11 'Hijackers' Trained on U.S. Military Bases," August 12, 2006:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58mforum=libertyandtruth

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."--H. L. Mencken

This "pathological denial" obviously has you concerned.

Why is this? Do I even need to ask?

Pathological sickness should concern everyone.

Everyone you be concerend with the pathological denial of the 9/11 Truth Movement just as we are concerned with the same illness of the Holocaust Denial Movement.

Your Comment is a Fallacious Analogy

Hello, Anonymous. Concerning your non sequitur "Holocaust Denial Movement" analogy, an accurate analogy for you would be to reverse the subject of your analogy, since it is the sycophants for the U.S. government who are denying the mass-murder which the U.S. government committed against U.S. citizens on September 11, 2001.

This analogy holds strong as being accurate, because in both cases it's a holocaust committed by the government whereby many of the citizens of their government are in a state of denial such that they refuse to come to terms with their "own" government's rapinous nature.

Right after World War II, most German citizens had no idea of how much mass-murder the German government had committed against their own population, and many said things to the effect of "We never knew!," or "We had no idea!" And most of them really didn't know.

In both of these cases (i.e., the mass-murder committed by the German government, and the mass-murder committed by the U.S. government on 9/11), it was a massive conspiracy committed by the government against their own subjects. During war-time Germany, had someone gone around trying to educate the German masses as to the mass-murder that was being committed in the concentration camps, they would have been dismissed by most people as being wild-eyed conspiracy theorist nut-cases.

Thus, those who attempt to defend the U.S. government against the fact that it has committed mass-murder against its own citizenry are acting in the role of "good, respectable Germans" who refuse to come to terms with the conspiracy and rapine that their government has committed against them and their fellow citizens.

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."--H. L. Mencken

You are in complete denial

The government did not commit mass murder on 9/11. You really need to seek professional help for your delusions.

Tom Hartman

Good post John, I was listening to Tom Hartman this morning and he was addressing this very issue. He even went so far as to say the administration may have intentionally let 911 happen to justify their agenda. I have never heard him say anything about this topic before. He also mentioned an abundance of evidence pointing in this direction. Hartman said youll see the Repubs and their corporate media play out this Foley thing to keep this info from getting the publics attention. So far Id say hes right the repubs are trying to spin the foley thing to mobalize their base by connecting it with the gay issue and the Dems.

Condi and Hastert knew = justice

Good post Jon.

This whole Foley scandal should be ignored except as a means to show that knowing about a crime and letting it happen, is also a crime. Is it possible to link Hastert's 'knowing", with BushCo's "knowing"? Clearly, crimes have been committed- perhaps Foley's experience has shown us the way to bring BushCo. down too.

9-11 'hijackers' on current TSA no-fly list

The Transportation Security Administration's secret no-fly list includes some very unlikely terror suspects -- Bolivian president Evo Morales, 14 of the 19 dead 9/11 hijackers, and every single person named "Robert Johnson."

http://www.alternet.org/story/42646/

Fresh Numbers

Howdy W Doody's Approval Rating

Dates % % % Disapprove

Newsweek 10/5-6/06 33 59 8 -26

Time 10/3-4/06 36 57 7 -21

AP-Ipsos * 10/2-4/06 38 59 -21

Pew 9/21 - 10/4/06 37 53 10 -16

NBC/Wall Street Journal RV
9/30 - 10/2/06 39 56 5 -17

CNN 9/29 - 10/2/06 39 59 2 -20

We must be the change we wish to see in the world. M Gandhi

I don't understand what you are trying to say here

I don't understand what you are trying to say here with these figures.

Either explain them, or just don't post this as raw material.

And, for goodness sake, please learn how to format your comments properly. Find out about the "preview" feature of this website before finally committing your next posting for real.

W's fallen to 33% in the polls this week

W's fallen to 33%

Whoopty...

Friggin do... if I didn't know any better, I'd say the powers that be don't give a sh_t what the people think...

Sorry... I've just seen his poll numbers come down to 29%, and nothing happened.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

The backers of the Bush/Cheney cabal will push...

....the American people as far as they can short of open revolt, in their efforts to further concentrate their wealth and power...they WANT a low approval rating for Bush...they know that if the approval rating is high, they are leaving money on the table...so they want as low an approval rating as possible (as a reflection of their policies) short of the public taking down the system...

If they miscalculate, and people wake up & get angry to the point of doing something about it, the puppetmasters will pull back, sacrifice a few figureheads, bide their time until things calm down and the public gets complacent again...and then start the process over..

All this crap about

All this crap about "warnings" is a smokescreen. LIHOP is a limited hangout.

What kinds of things could you do...

If you knew what, where and when?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

We have now achieved LIHOP....

....and are now on our way to MIHOP...

Condi infamously testifies on TV before the Zelikow Commission that, "I don't think anyone had any idea that commercial airliners could be used as weapons" (I paraphrase)...

We then learn immediately of the leaked Aug. 6 PDB, "Bin Laden determined to attack in US", which talked about just that. This contradicts Rice.

Then we learn that our government had 23 warnings from 11 different countries about impending domestic terrorist attacks; some of the warnings specify airplanes as weapons. This contradicts Rice. (The Administration declines to alert the American people).

Then we learn there were as many as 15 secret War Games/Drills on 9/11, some of which involved "an airplane hitting a government building"! (again, contradicting Rice).

Now we learn that Condileeza-liesalot and Ashcroft were warned by the CIA, in the strongest possible terms. on July 10th and the 17th, respectively, about terrorists attacking with commercial airliners. AND THEY DECLINED AGAIN TO ALERT THE PUBIC, even as Ashcroft changes from flying commercial to flying private jets, to protect himself.

Folks, this all adds up to an admission of LIHOP.....they knew and they repeatedly didn't warn the public or alert the national security apparatus. How many examples of that do the skeptics need before "incompetence" turns into "foreknowledge", which turns into "LIHOP"?

And the War Games hint strongly toward the forced future admission of MIHOP....it's coming, people.....