Bad publicity is good publicity or: How to make the best of hit pieces

I haven't looked at the South Park episode dealing with 9/11. However, this 911blogger website's traffic statistics seem to suggest that it served huuuuuuuuuugely to direct curious people to look up for "truther" sites. I wonder how many hits did get as a result (after all, one character was wearing a T-shirt with their address on it, and did only reap the "side effect")?

Second, I've come across an interesting an interesting article at ("Analyzing South Park's 9/11 Show"). It's really worth a read:

'One thing I've found over the last few years is that media will often write a "9/11 hit piece" and then weave within it many links and information that gets the reader curious about the fact that the official story doesn't really make sense, when you look at it. This harkens back to the old KGB run Soviet Union, where journalists would "hide" facts within stories, and the Soviet people were savvy enough to get the "real" message.

A few months after 9/11 a Canadian newspaper writer did just this, writing what looked like a 9/11 hit piece, but working major disturbing facts in it, and then giving my email address for those wanting more information. When I called him, he apologized for the hit piece quality, but said that's the only way he could get the facts to the public, past his editor. The result was amazing. I got hundreds of emails from angry Canadians who believed that 9/11 was an inside job, and who'd read past the Trojan horse hit piece aspect and saw the facts within the article.'

Trojan horse or not: please do always remember this old truism of public relations professionals: "Better have bad publicity than no publicity at all!". As this website's hit statistics for Oct 12 show, it is still valid, and South Park brought a lot of people to look for it.

The same will be true for Oprah's show. Be prepared for it! Put up stuff to the front page that matters most to "truth newbies"!

(The last paragraph above is an UPDATE. -- I had meant to include this sentence in the original posting, but somehow it got lost)

"south park" was on the top

"south park" was on the top ten most popular searches via technorati yesterday. Not today though.

My god look at the stats!

The more I think about it it just doesn't add up. Do you know how much money it would cost a company to get it's website on a character's shirt in South Park for 7 minutes?

I don't find it hard to believe that a certain percentage of people who come for the first time are actually looking for answers and not just excuses. Some of those people will notice something that just doesn't add up.

It's true, the bigger the controversy the better and South Park really makes it at least a mainstream controversy.

My son came home yesterday and said that

practically every one of his friends in high school were talking about that South Park episode. I asked him if he saw the URL on the t-shirt. He said yes and that lots of kids were going to there to check it out.

Regardless of how the truth movement was portrayed, just the fact that it made them curious is a good thing, IMO.

Go Cartman!!!

Lets face it if South Park

Lets face it if South Park were to actually alledge govenment complicity in the 9/11 attacks IT WOULD NEVER AIR, on the face of it, it may seem like a hit peice, but it put 911 truth in the mainstream and spikes some interest in the subject, it was also a great advert for the 9/11 website that was mentioned.

Seriously People

Anyone who thinks the episode was a hit piece needs to be slapped. The last scene with Bush ("What are you? Retarded?" and everyone laughs) was DRIPPING with sarcasm. The scene at the White House was obviously the purpose of the episode, aside from shamelessly promoting And the poop jokes were pretty funny...

I guess most of the people here would have preferred an animated version of a Alex Jones broadcast... People with a clue (hehe) knew this was obviously not going to be the case, and the episode definitely met my 'best case scenario' standards. Anyone questioning the show's motives should really go watch the episode again.

Same with Team America

The way I saw Team America, it was dripping with sarcasm about everything. I saw "America Fuck Yeah!" as making fun of the over the top "patriotism" that was going on in 2004. But, Bush/GOP followers saw took it as literal (at least from what I can tell from message boards and blogs). They thought Team America was in support of the US going around the world to solve everyone's problems with bombs. I think the SP boys have mastered the art of making fun of both sides while making each side simultaneuously think that the wroters are on their side.

Hmmmm... Playing both sides?

There's a concept that works!


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Ditto with Colbert

The GOP doesn't get his Satire.

It's Called Chaos as Distraction

SP boys are masters of making fun of both sides, and in doing so they disperse the potential of an authentic and fully angered response to the matter; this matter being 911. Ultimately, knowingly or not, the SP episode has breathed a bit of light on the 911 matter for a massive audience. Whether that audience will move into the light or away from it is left up the the 911 Truth Movement. The fact is it is highly unlikely that SP boys, even if they were smart enough to know the facts about 911, would no doubt be blocked from airing such 911 facts (like the basic one: the official story defies the laws of physics). Regardless, I think it's important for the Movement to avoid picking leaders who are most loyally folowed by a group of mostly good natured yet mostly immature teenage boys laughing at fart jokes. I still laugh like hell at fart jokes, but I'm not going to follow the pimple-face brigade into battle.

South Park

Please don't tell me that I need to be slapped! We are all divided enough without your angry comments dividing us further. I thought it was a hit piece in the end, although I wasn't completely convinced. After talking it over with my kids, they convinced me that it was a good situation all the way around. Okay, so I am old and slow. Remember you are dealing with people here who are desperately trying to find the truth in a world filled with lies. What do we believe anymore?

the fetzer hit piece

even though fetzer's appearence on fox was the definition of a hit peice, fetzer managed to tell people go to to My site is the first link on that site (under truth 9/11), so my site, got a lot of hits last night (only around 1000, but that's still good for me :) ) These hit peices are getting more hits for our sites and videos, so they're certainly a very good thing.

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It doesn't matter. What

It doesn't matter. What matters is that everyone who saw that episode went from "9/11 truth is believed by a small group of loonies" to "9/11 truth is supported by a quarter of the population."

That makes it feel much "safer" to investigate the facts: You are not alone, and you are not (necessarily) a nut for doing so.

They WISH it was only 25%

Methinks you have it about backwards. And I know because I am constantly in the streets talking to people and getting thumbs up from the most random types. Truth is everywhere. Emperor. Clothes. None. F*-ed. Yup.


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The number is much higher, especially amongst New Yorkers. Somewhere in the 40's, I think.

Okay, it's about 36%, sorry

but the number for New Yorkers is higher, just don't have the exact figures on that one.

Zogby found like 42%, no?

That was months ago--I think it must be higher now, but whatever, we still have to step it up just a little more to make sure the camel's back is soundly cleft in twain!!


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Check out the CNN poll

83% believe there is a government cover-up! I was shocked to see this was actually broadcast on CNN! Other than that, the media is once again, predictably silent. HOWEVER, as the Republican Party continues to implode, that may change.

The Smirking Chimp/Eric Boehlert article below pretty much illustrates how the jig is up for Republicans because the real string-pullers realize they have become too much of a liability and its time to cut their losses (they've already made a killing off Iraq anyways - no pun intended). All the "October surprises" had already got me thinking this way and this article pretty much confirms how I already felt.

AWESOME! We can be just as sneaky--no, we HAVE to be MORE

sneaky than the conspirators and their obedient wh*res. They really have no idea what they've unleashed on themselves, do they. Truthers on the outside, truthers on the inside, Truthers who admit they're truthers, truthers who deny it. Truthers are everywhere and working together without working together. Got it? Good. Now get to it. This one is in the bag, what's left is to tie it securely.


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When they went to the

When they went to the truthers house and the guy had that t-shirt on and it said "" as plain as day.... I was blown away!!

that was all I was hoping to see on the show....

they threw us a bone right there..... It was great!

"I got a huge clue"


Did anybody notice a SINGLE crack or comment even, about that T-shirt? I didn't.

(btw: Does anybody have stats for the patriotsquestion site? And how many others point to it too? Love ta know.)


"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.


The patriots web site is incredible. I wish Fetzer would have referred to it last night. I carry a copy of the entire list of people with me all the time. It is a great way of showing people that 9/11 truthers are not a bunch of drunken college kids creating good kegger conversations, but people with incredible careers, brilliant minds and so much to lose by being honest.

Traffic increase?

"However, this webside's traffic statistics seem to suggest that it served huuuuuuuuuugely to direct curious people to look up for "truther" sites"

DZ: not sure which website this refers to (here, or "little pipe's blog") but could you share with us what traffic increase percentages your logs show in the past 36 hours?

Incidentally, DBS/iamthewitness points here as a place to watch the South Park show, noting that this is a "Zionist Denier" site, LOL... may he choke on his own piss and vinegar shortly,

hey--are you surreptitiously trying to get people to read DBS?

he he, cuts both ways, eh? I think it's great that there is a diversity of opinion inherent in 9/11 Truth. 9/11 Mysteries is by far the best doc yet on the subject, and they don't shy away from crediting Eric Hufschmid for his early and great work on getting the truth out. So he doesn't like Zionists? GREAT! Neither do I. Does he and does DBS go a little overboard in their rhetoric? Sure, sometimes I feel like telling them to stop sounding so frikkin weird. Is it a fact that Zionists have used VERY underhanded and deceitful methods that warrant a high degree of skepticism? And HOW!

Finally, if 911blogger were a Zionist denier site I would have already been censored and I have not been. Sure the site has plenty of Zionist trollers claiming to be truthers, but that's to be expected, and engaging everyone is the way to defuse their efforts, not by shooting off point blank. There is much subtext in everything--that is key in the infowars. Understanding subtext and its uses is essential to getting at the truth about conspiracies, because subtext and double entendres are common currency among those who want to operate in the open but still get away with stuff.


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Anti-Semite Neo-Nazi Skinhead Hitler lover H'cost Denier

That's what you are!

Isn't that right, everyone?


(sagebrush blows by, vultures circle)

chirp chirp....... chirp chirp.... chirp chirp...



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I would concur that those

I would concur that those who would deny the Holocaust are nearly universally motivated by anti-semitism.

What happens when you all

What happens when you all start get arrested for the CRIME OF BEING 9/11 DENIERS? The Holocaust may have happened exactly as history said it did, but should it be a crime to question the numbers and the true reality of that war, even now, 60 years later? Legislation against freedom of speech is there to protect criminals first and foremost.

I agree that the laws

I agree that the laws against Holocaust denial are dangerous and wrong. I would defend your right to publish books and go to libraries, but you're dead wrong and your motives are clearly anti-semitic and the extent to which "9/11 truth" has something in common with the methods of Holocaust deniers is the extent to which it is in error. And the extent to which "9/11 truth" has something in common with your goals is the extent to which it is depraved.

Can anyone point me to's stats, please?


Some comparables on 9/11 related websites


I don't have anything too specific on web traffic on, but here's a little utility that provides that offers a bit of insight:

What I've done is to compare 4 different websites here.

The methodology at Alexa would be greatly improved if it included a larger universe of viewers. If anyone knows of better utilities, I'd be grateful for suggestions. Thanks.

thank you


David Ray Griffin

Could someone post a story about David Ray Griffin's new Book? I have just started to read it and it is excellent. I'm not sure how to get a post to the main page.

I think this may very well be one of the best writings about 9/11

He is getting some really good reviews at as well as a few comical ones from the "Denialists" and "Excusioners"

I'd really appreciate it


here's the best review:

Note the similarities in the reviews of this book posted here. Chase down for yourself the "See all my reviews" links. Consider how few have any OTHER reviews. Look at the titles of those who DO have other reviews!

Only someone willfully blind to the truth could fail to see that there is a common thread to these posts, that this is a construction designed to influence inattentive browsers.

We can only hope that Amazon will investigate, fearlessly, the shadowy threads connecting these purportedly independent reviews.


indeed, if Amazon is letting people use their forums to cover

up a crime on the scale of 9/11, well, they should at least be tracking IPs and saving them for future prosecutors.

It will also be nice to include information on all the efforts that were made to cover 9/11 up in our soon to be built 9/11 Museum, which will feature interactive displays, lots of terribly upsetting pictures, signs that say NEVER AGAIN, and a full list of all the perps and their accomplices, so that the world will learn never ever to allow anything like 9/11 and the cover up to happen to anyone ever again.

I don't think we should go as far as passing laws prohibiting people from claiming that 19 box-cutter wielding Arab Muslims brouth down the towers and building 7, because then people might suspect it was actually true. The truth will survive all challenges as it has for the last five years.

We should in the future encourage people to look at all sides of this historic struggle for the truth so that they can see how a lie was crafted, and how our efforts to unravel it succeeded against all odds. The hero of the story will of course be all the anonymous citizens who managed to find each other and work together while being outnumbered and outgunned, armed only with the truth and their moral conviction to do what was right even at a cost to themselves personally. That is our story.


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How to get a post to the main page...

How to get a post to the main page?

Easy (or not). Write a blog entry that catches the eye of the admins, because it is well written, has something to tell to its readers, does not use profany, has lots of facts, figures, arguments -- and it will be promoted to the main page automatically.

Or so I believe....

In other words....

....write yourself a review of David Ray Griffin's book for your blog, and write it well.

And if you've done it, you can easily submit that same review to, for added benefit.


Fetzer was able to utter st911 website on Fox and the number of visitors there
jumped from 7000 to 30000 yesterday!

Victory is not far away

Very interesting, enlightening

post here. This never occurred to me!

Rush Limbaugh mentions on his show

- it goes without saying, he did it in hit piece mode

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Fetzer's site was getting 400 hits/hour for several hours before he was on FOX.

He got 10,000 the hour he was on.

ROFLMAO, and the trouble with Jews...

If it's not too much trouble, could you leave the gratuitous "Jew" comments out?
It makes you sound like an idiot.

Perhaps you meant "Zionists". They're not the same thing, as any informed bloke knows.


South Park was the best case scenario

The people who think the South Park episode was a hit-piece miss all the subtlety. It was a giant success- basically an embedded advertisement for As one poster wrote, the scene with BushCo in the White House was meant rather literally, and they never made fun of Cartman's evidence (Controlled demolition, Pentagon)

They could have had Cartman calling the 911 families who recieved phone calls "liars" and making them cry. They could have ripped into us.

Instead they have the corn-ball Hardly Boys say "What are you retarded?" as the explanation. It's subtle- Trey and Matt don't want to end up in a FEMA camp.

Listen to the first five minutres from my False Flag News radio show from last night where I cover the South Park episode:


Fema camps this why all those trailers are not being used for Katrina victims?

It was a hit piece, but it failed

My traffic at has been double what it normally is ever since the episode aired.

And yes, I do believe it was intended to be a hit piece, because I am well aware of the pro-war, pro-Bush, hawkish political views of Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

Dear Trey & Matt

Your check is in the mail.

Thanks again for all the work you do for me.


New Popular Mechanics Hit Piece

let me guess, it's that

let me guess, it's that truthers are making too much money with their books and DVDs? How about some comparisons? I guess the terror industry gets $1 billion for every $100 a 9/11 conspiracy author makes.

Has Meigs come up with

Has Meigs come up with explainations as to why cheney had NORAD stand down yet? or a ISI operative wired 100k to mohammed atta on behalf of the head of the ISI the day before 9/11?

Has he found out who funded the operation because the 9/11 commission thinks it's of "no great importance".

Thought not.

Don't play the victim Meigs, and don't try and tar everyone with the same brush.

WTC7, Ben Chertoff, and some random MEMEs

First, a few assorted MEME-words, phrases, and various other absurdities which you can look forward to in this article,

"outraged patriotism"
"apocalyptic rhetoric"
"far left wing"
"far right wing"
"Holocaust denial"
"9/11 denial"
"Mainstream journalism"
"religious extremist"
"the leading experts"
"coherent, well-tested narrative"
"tiny anomalies"
"Paranoid Style"
"Conspiratorial Fantasy"
"John Birch Society"
"Slipshod Handling of Facts"
"Circular Reasoning"
"see-what-sticks approach"
"heads-I-win-tails-you-lose logic of conspiracism"
"All of these people must be in on the plot, too"
"accuse their fellow citizens of complicity in evil"
"the federal government has more than 1.9 million employees"
"the generally accepted account of 9/11"
"coincidence is proof of collaboration"
"mind-boggling hoaxes"
"conspiracists revel in their self-defined status as society’s Cassandras"
"The mainstream view of 9/11 is, in other words, a vast consensus"

Here, they put WTC7 to bed once and for all,

"A good example is the conspiracist fascination with the collapse of 7 World Trade Center. Since the 47-story tower was not hit by an airplane, only by the debris of the North Tower, investigators weren’t sure at first just how or why it collapsed hours after the attacks. A scientist (or for that matter, a journalist or historian) might see that gap in our knowledge as an opportunity for further research (see “WTC 7: Fire and Debris Damage,” page 53). In the conspiracy world, however, even a hint of uncertainty is a chance to set a trap. If researchers can’t “prove” exactly how the building fell, they say, then there is only one other possible conclusion: Someone blew it up."

LMAO! And here they address the Ben/Michael Chertoff "coincidence":

"As often happens in the world of conspiracy theories, a grain of truth—it’s possible that Ben and Michael Chertoff are distantly related—was built into a towering dune. In fact, Ben and Michael Chertoff have never spoken. And no one at Popular Mechanics had any contact with Michael Chertoff’s office while preparing the article. Moreover, Ben was one of many researchers on the story, not the author. (Then, of course, there’s the question of why Ben—and his colleagues—would be eager to get involved with one of the greatest crimes in history.) But in the world of 9/11 conspiracy theories, coincidence is proof of collaboration."

DOUBLE LMAO! Then there's this little unpolished gem:

"In fact, the generally accepted account of 9/11 is made up of a multitude of sources: thousands of newspaper, TV, and radio reports produced by journalists from all over the world; investigations conducted by independent organizations and institutions, including... The mainstream view of 9/11 is, in other words, a vast consensus"

That's ah, coincidental, as the 9/11 Truth theories are also based upon A MULTITUDE OF MAINLINE SOURCES!

In regards to WTC 7 the fact

In regards to WTC 7 the fact that it looked like a CD is what compells people to suggest that it was a CD, but it is true that the evidence is not in. I'd like to read the final NIST report, and specifically look into the possiblity of some sort of design flaw, before reaching a conclusion. Also I'm still waiting for Steven Jones to offer analysis of the structural steel and for him to have his results verified by a process of peer review and further studies that duplicate his results. When is he planning to publish his studies and where?

Get ready to wait a long time

I respect your mental reserve, but NIST hasn't actually shown itself to be a glowing beacon of independent scientific inquiry. As for a design flaw, if true, who ever built it should be sued into a smoking crater right now. Since Silverstien didn't collect the insurance on WTC7(or did he? I've only heard of him collecting on WTC 1 and 2. Anyone?)

I do agree Dr. Jones' work should be verified by peer review, etc. It's just not going to happen with this administration. Not if there's ANY chance the results don't favor them.

People always comment on the

People always comment on the Youtube videos I upload that, "this guy is trying to sell a book, therefore you can't trust him," or "I don't believe these guys, they're just trying to sell DVDs." Ummm..isn't Newsweek trying to sell Magazines? Isn't Fox News trying to sell ad time? If the argument is, "you can't trust any news from a source that's selling it," doesn't that discredit the mainstream media (which rakes in billions in profits every year) even more than it does a few small authors and publishers publishers who are just trying to cover their distribution costs? Are people really supposed to print books and millions of DVDs for free?

Popular Mechanics is getting really annoying with their hardline partisan stance on this issue. They're coming out with so many one-sided hit pieces, it's really suspicious.

The money to be had in the 9/11 Truth Movement....

....relative to the wealth transfer that occured justified by the official version/fabrication of 9/11 is a joke....yet, disinfo agents keep peddling that nonsense....

...this effort by the 9/11 Truth Movement remains a labor of patriotism....

Regarding your last question,, but they are expected ot produce music for free.....(sorry, inside joke :)

BTW, Hallifaxion...another website you should check out is

it's long, it's boring and

it's long, it's boring and it's pathetic

it starts like this:
On February 7, 2005, I became a member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/New World Order/ Illuminati conspiracy for global domination. It was on that day the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics, with its cover story debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories, hit newsstands. Within hours, the online community of 9/11 conspiracy buffs—which calls itself the “9/11 Truth Movement”—was aflame with wild fantasies about me and my staff, the magazine I edit, and the article we had published.


"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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Are South Park episodes translated to other languages and broadcast in other countries too?

If so, do we know when/where that happens? And if we know, can we prepare the 9/11 truth websites for the expected traffic and influx of "newbies"?


Southpark is well known here in Europe. I used to watch it back in the days when it was still more of a cult series. They send the show on MTV here in Scandinavia.. episodes are also spread across the internet, that's how I originally became familiar with it.



Besides pre-election mud

Besides 911 de-bunking and pre-election mud slinging, there are more profound reasons behind all this so called bad publicity:

Never in the history of the world have ordinary people been able to communicate and share ideas at the magnitude they do today. The internet is soley responsible for this revolutionary change in the way people get their information. Independent (and that is the key word here) investigators and reporters are digging up dirt and putting it out there before the mainstream media can get their grubby paws on it. Much of this information IS based on fact. Now just because the articles, books and videos now available to us are not written, published, or produced in the 'traditional' sense, does not mean the information has no merit.....or the people putting out the information have no credibility.

The mainstream debunkers continually focus on credibility. These 'pot shots' that are taken at alternative, or better yet, independent news sources have not been happening by mistake. It is a cold and calculated reaction to the fact that the mainstreams' mere existence is under fire.

I do not dispute the fact that mainstream is corporate driven and politically manipulated. But what they absolutely have to DESPISE with a sheer passion is that they are no longer reporting the news to us. We are indeed reporting the news to them. They can't stomach this. Revenues are at an all time low for the corporate media. Layoffs throughout that industry are at an all time high. They simply are being upstaged by a bunch of rag tag reporters who have no content restrictions. History has come full circle and once again you've got the roving reporter calling 'em as he sees 'em.

This is killing them. They will pull out all the stops to put an end to it. They abhor the current level of INDEPENDENCE we have to read and write whatever the hell we want AND to share it with whomever the hell wants to read it.

The are some cold and hard facts of life here. The internet unexpectedly spun out of their control. This is about money, it's about the money they aren't making, and it's about the money that they stand to lose.

A threatened dog always shows it's teeth, growls, and barks. This is about deep seeded fear.

You bring up an important

You bring up an important point.  The free exchange of information is weakening the control of the few over the many.  The printing press did the same thing to dominance of religion, and that came crashing down. 

While I agree that

While I agree that circumventing the MSM is what makes the internet so empowering let's not be confused. Most of the information that is circulated online comes from traditional media sources. Paul Thompson's timeline is a good example. Blogs and internet sources will not replace traditional media anytime soon because amateur journalists and commentators simply don't have the time or resources to do primary investigation and reporting.

Paul Thompson is a perfect

Paul Thompson is a perfect example. His INDEPENDENT research links vital 911 reports that otherwise evaded the proper attention they deserved. Yes, those reports were MSM. And I'm not saying that there is no well intended MSM reporting taking place. What I am saying is guys like Paul Thompson are a grave threat to corporate media. His work is phenominal. The MSM has lost their superiority in controlling what we read.

And there's a hell of alot more than blogging going on out there. Fetzer's group is one example. Experts in their fields, 300 or so, doing unprecedented research on a major issue and reporting their findings to an otherwise uninformed community. Websites like the Muckraker report and Prison Planet are writing commentary not only on mainstream reports, but they are digging up official government documents and pasting them up for you and me to see. They are interviewing key players. They are becoming mainstream. And at the risk of repeating myself, the MSM DETESTS it. They are being upstaged. And they will say or do anything to put a stop to it.

To help illustrate my point, let's say somebody out there came up with a formula using ordinary grocery store items that when mixed together would fire up and run your internal combustion engine. Let's say that the independent researchers (300 of them) tested it reported that it will have no adverse effect on your car. Let's say that that formula began circulating around the internet. And let's say we began testing it out ourselves. And finally, let's say that it worked so well, we only pulled into the convenience store for coffee. Gasoline sales drop dramatically. Now how do you think the oil companies would react. Would there be some debunking? How about the automobile industry? Would they try to disprove our findings? Would the credibility of the researches be under intense scrutiny? What if YOU worked for an oil company? Would you feel threatened in any way? Would all the oil companies tend to stick together on the issue? Would some people end up mysteriously dead? From the bottom all the way to the top, anybody that has anything to do with oil would be barking, growling, and showing their teeth.

It's all about money and peoples' livelyhoods.


What is interesting is that when a popular series like Southpark takes on a controversial topic, there is usually some talk about it in the media. I haven't found anything yet...

good point, i was thinking

good point, i was thinking the same thing actually. i thought SOMEONE would have noticed that George W. Bush put a bullet in someones head, cartoon or not. you would think that alone would be enough to warrant some sort of media coverage.


I have only caught glimpses of South Park. My impression is that it is a disgraceful program becasue it does an injustice to youthful, impressionable minds.

When I heard SP did a hit piece on 9/11 my initial thoughts are that this show is really being misrepresented as from the minds of liberals. The hit piece may mean the program is really being put out by conservatives who wish to provide pure crap and garbage for youth to keep them dumbed down.

Our youth deserve better than this trashy disgraceful programming. Perhaps this program was created by GOP mindsets who want to portray it as being from liberals to create a greater backlassh from parents. In other words, perhaps these are conservatives who want to define the liberal culture by producing this outrageous trashy programming.

And speaking of retards - the conservative, very wealthy creators probably think that only retards would watch their programming and find it entertaining. I don't think 9/11 truthers should pressume that SP is from liberal creators and they are trying to communicate in code to the masses about 9/11 truth. If anything, it seems to me they are trying to make it uncool to be part of the 9/11 truth movement and appear to have a fascist rant.

Please try not to be so naive. Evil lurks behind a lot of things in our culture and if you don't know the people yourself, who put out this kind of programming, you really can't pressume they are on "our side". It could be part of t he dumbing down of American youth GOP plan, then introducing the fascism very slowly of making it uncool and retarded to be for 9/11 truth.

From what I understand

From what I understand about the creators, they are rich in the talented-jonny-gets recognized-way. Don't confuse them with a Connecticut Texan in King Arthur's court. I agree this whole "secret message", decoder ring angle should be taken carefully; (I'm not married to it, but we're dating.)

I really can't see the SP guys knowingly being neo-con pawns. I could buy they don't have an opinion and are just in it for a laugh. Reserve "evil" for persons directly and wantonly culpable for surpressing the facts of 911.

I have been laying it down on this blog

check it out if you have time....