Think of an elephant doing the moonwalk and then balancing on one foot on a dining room table. What happens? the table collapses symetrically in freefall speed. 99% of engineers
agree with the elephant moonwalk theory. Dont be a tinfoil hat moron!


This would of course be the Zogby poll I missed......
And I guess the same 99% of engineers would agree that a simple collapse would result in molten metal and 1300'F fires weeks after the collapse.
The answer, of course, is they wouldn't. But they have likely never seen the evidence that drives the Truth movement, otherwise, they would be converts.

Yes, and then take that same

Yes, and then take that same elephant, and same table, knock out one of the table legs, and tell me which way the table falls.

So let me get this straight...

Six days ago you posted a blog entry in which you wrote:

The two best papers on the collapse of the towers are the jones and griffin paper "why the towers collapsed" They are sourced and scientific. If a movie was made summing
up their main points that was a slickly produced as Loose Change it would spread. They have so many quotes and contradictions to NIST specifically and the flawed investigation.

Now you're saying it's all "tin foil hat nonsense" and that "99% of engineers agree with the elephant moonwalk theory" no one has ever heard of?

Buh-bye, troll.

hey billybipbip, id be

hey billybipbip, id be interested in the answer to that too.
could you maybe relate your newly found elephant theory to the points you made in your first blog ??
I guess theres no point debating anything before that.

Gosh. You're right.

It was probably "black" tech, Tesla-inspired, disintegrator-beam, or hyper-dimensional HAARP directed energy.

Never thought of it like that before. Thanks for the "push".

Neither did gravity (alone)

Interesting, because I guess the government selected from the 1% of engineers who don't think fire can bring down a steel-framed skyscraper.

"The results established that this type of assembly was capable of sustaining a large gravity load, without collapsing, for a substantial period of time relative to the duration of the fires in any given location on September 11." – NIST, p. 143

Or maybe you found this conclusion more forceful:

"With the information and time available, the sequence of events leading to the collapse of each tower could not be definitively determined." – FEMA BEPAT, Executive Summary, p.2

Show "bollocks" by billybipbip

Have you seen the testimony

Have you seen the testimony of firefighters, police officers, emergency technicians, news reporters and several others who recall hearing and seeing explosions before and during the "collapse" of both Towers at the World Trade Center complex on the morning of September 11, 2001?

Here are just a few of the many examples:

"Somewhere around the middle of the world trade center, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building."

"I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him... I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down... You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw."

It looked like sparkling around one specific layer of the building... Then the building started to come down. My initial reaction was that this was exactly the way it looks when they show you those implosions on TV.

"It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down."

"I had heard distant boom boom boom, sounded like three explosions. I don’t know what it was. At the time, I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom boom boom and then the lights all go out."

"I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."

" It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was -- do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear “pop, pop, pop, pop, pop”? That’s exactly what -- because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that’s when I saw the building coming down.

"Police have found what they describe as a suspicious device, and they fear that it might be something that could lead to another explosion...I spoke with some police officials moments ago, Chris, and they told me that they have reason to believe that one of the explosions at the WTC aside from the ones that may have been caused by the impact of the plane with the building, may have been caused by a van that was parked in the building that may have had some type of explosive device in it. So, their fear here is that there may have been explosive devices planted either in the building or in the adjacent area ..."

“Albert Turi the Chief of Safety of the Fire Department of New York City told me he received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place... he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.”

For more information concerning witnesses who heard and saw explosions at the World Trade Center, visit:


PoopDrop theory...  hmm,

PoopDrop theory...  hmm, was that in the NIST or FEMA report?

On a different note, did you know the word for popcorn and elephant farts is the same in Farsi? 

"the poop will fall at

"the poop will fall at freefall speed......hence so will the building" - no it won't learn about “Frictional Resistance” and “Conservation of Momentum”. And for your information, because plainly you’re ignorant to a lot of this, there was an eyewitness structural engineer stating on the day that the buildings were demolished.

Go to the 12th minuet here;

I'm guessing this person is about 12

and I know these specious "arguments" are not worth anyone's time.

Move along, people. Nothing to see here.

More 9/11 Baiting?

Maybe explosives brought down the towers. I don't claim to have the answer. But to me this statement just looks like more 9/11 baiting a la Popular Mechanics, Alexander Cockburn, and the rest of those who want to drag the 9/11 truth movement into the quagmire of arguing about the non-existent physical evidence (you know, the evidence that Bush quickly destroyed).

Our case is already made on the basis of other evidence. The mere application of logic to Bush's story shows that it can't possibily be true. We have a mountain of known and verifiable facts pointing to complicity by US elites. So, it makes no sense to start foaming at the mouth and screaming like a madman when somebody makes a statement like this. Just ignore it and save your energy.

Who's foaming at the mouth and screaming?

A lot of people visit this blog who many never have looked into 9/11 before. So I think it's great when one of these government apologists come along to challenge what many of us are saying. It's an excellent opportunity to educate not only him/her, but the newcomers as well.

I didn't mean you, specifically.

I understand what your post was meant to do and it would undoubtedly be very helpful to a newcomer.

I am just particularly offended by this person's idiocy.

Explosives/incendiaries brought down the towers + WTC-7...


A pitful non-sequitur

Aren't cocaine induced fantasies fun? This one is beautiful man...groovy!!!!

How about we scale your experiment down a bit and *try* to simulate a tower instead.

Go get three identical box turtles. Now stack them one on top of another. Lift the top turtle about an inch or two (really, just wing it!). Now, drop that massive beast on the other two! Shazaam!!!!! You're left with a heap of turtle powder and not a trace of intact shell. Those two on the bottom never stood a chance. Let's not talk about why the fellow on top also disintegrated so thoroughly.

Please be careful when conducting this experiment with anything really....you may find that dropping a brick on your sofa will shatter it completely, or if your hammer falls on your toe, that toe is certain to be crushed into paste. Never ever allow a heavy object to fall on another similar or lesser reinforced object!!!!

I shudder to think what will happen at the next WWF body slam competition. Please, somebody, anybody, call the commissioner!

This is the new debunker's law of physics. Let's submit it for peer review. Man, Neuton was such a fool.

I love that comment!


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force


I'm reporting you to the ASPCA

but that is a somehow-very-satisfying illustration.

The WTC was not as flimsy as

The WTC was not as flimsy as a dining room table and the upper portion that collapsed was not heavier or more supstantial than the portions below. Perhaps the CD hypothesis is bunk, but so is this specious argument.