The vote is 50/50... I guess I have to get this thing started.
*cracks knuckles*
On page 172 of the 9/11 Report, it says, "To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance."
The 9/11 Commission released an addendum a couple of months after the release of the 9/11 Report.
CNN reports, "The monograph reveals in detail how the hijackers received money from wire transfers, cash and traveler's checks, and credit or debit cards for overseas bank accounts. The report says most of the funds were sent by Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, a nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed."
However, two things it points out is that they are still saying "the origin of 9/11 funds is unknown", but now they are sure to mention that "no money for the attacks was raised in the United States."
According to 9/11 family member Bill Doyle, the 28 redacted pages within the Joint Congressional Inquiry might mention United States funding to Pakistan.
If that's true, then the origin of the funds becomes VERY significant.
ESPECIALLY when you take into account that Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, the head, at the time of the 9/11 attacks of the Pakistani Intelligence apparatus known as the ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence), allegedly ordered Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to the alleged lead hijacker Mohammad Atta, met with "unspecified officials at the White House" AT THE TIME OF THE ATTACKS.
The 9/11 Families submitted 100's of questions to the 9/11 Commission in the hopes that they would be answered. The ISI connection to 9/11 was one of them.
22) On the issue of state sponsored terrorism:
Why did Mahmood Ahmed, Director of Pakistan's secret service, the (ISI) order Saeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to hijacker Mohamed Atta?
What was Mahmood Ahmed's relationship with Al Qaeda?
Where did the money come from?
Did officials in Pakistan know in advance about the terrorist attack?
On September 11 th, Mahmood Ahmed had a breakfast meeting in Washington, D.C., with House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairmen, Rep. Porter Goss and Senator Bob Graham. What were they discussing?
Since the 9/11 Report doesn't bother to cover any of this, and instead denies any knowledge of it, it is reasonable to assume that they are intentionally covering up the White House's relationship with someone who may have helped to finance the 9/11 attacks.
Do you think that's significant?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
This has "inside job" written ALL OVER IT. Since the 9/11 Report is what they put forward to give us a "full and complete" accounting of the 9/11 attacks, and instead chose to "tell the story" designed by Philip Zelikow, and the White House, this report, itself, would become a piece of evidence, I believe, in a court of law. A REAL court of law.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
“There are many in (Pakistani President) Musharraf’s government who believe that Saeed Sheikh’s power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA. The theory is that ... Saeed Sheikh was bought and paid for.” (Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 3/3/2002)
Hmmmm... wasn't George Tenet meeting with Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad in Pakistan months before 9/11?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Doyle is a member of the Coalition of 9/11 Families, board member of the World Trade Center United Family Group, treasurer and board member of the 9/11 Families for a Secure America, and co-lead plaintiff in the 9/11 Families United to Bankrupt Terrorism. He also serves as either a board member or consultant to many other 9/11 organizations throughout the country. He is recognized as having the largest outreach to the 9/11 families including the physically injured through his own support group network
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Figure out that I'm putting forward the 9/11 Report, itself, as evidence against those who perpetrated the attacks of 9/11, and asking people to discuss the reasons why? Sorry man. I didn't think it was that hard to understand.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
once more -- your style to start discussing certain things is sometimes very confusing to innocent readers of this site (and to me too). But we all know you can do much better.
My comment stems from a time when there was only the main story, and not yet your first comment.
Only your first comment starts to make clear, what you are aiming for. (Maybe it's also because I'm not a native speaker... tell me if you do not want to talk to foreigners, and I'll take it into account.)
But if no other argument does convince you: think about people that like to print out material from this website to hand out to colleagues (like I do). We now have a nice new feature to do so -- but it only works for the main story. Your comment (which makes clear what you want to do) is not printed. In other words: the main story is useless in itself. But it shouldn't!
Also, think about people who come just for quick visits (and don't have time to plough through each and every comment thread). How should they know that the main meat is in a comment below??
SInce these people wanted to go to war with both Afghanistan and Iraq, and wanted to take control of all three branches of Government, and wanted to take away our civil liberties, and wanted to increase military spending to ridiculous proportions, and wanted to make money for their already very rich friends, and managed to do ALL OF THIS, I think it's safe to say the cover-up behind 9/11 has NOTHING to do with incompetence. These are NOT incompetent people.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Ok...
The vote is 50/50... I guess I have to get this thing started.
*cracks knuckles*
On page 172 of the 9/11 Report, it says, "To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance."
The 9/11 Commission released an addendum a couple of months after the release of the 9/11 Report.
CNN reports, "The monograph reveals in detail how the hijackers received money from wire transfers, cash and traveler's checks, and credit or debit cards for overseas bank accounts. The report says most of the funds were sent by Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, a nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed."
However, two things it points out is that they are still saying "the origin of 9/11 funds is unknown", but now they are sure to mention that "no money for the attacks was raised in the United States."
According to 9/11 family member Bill Doyle, the 28 redacted pages within the Joint Congressional Inquiry might mention United States funding to Pakistan.
If that's true, then the origin of the funds becomes VERY significant.
ESPECIALLY when you take into account that Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, the head, at the time of the 9/11 attacks of the Pakistani Intelligence apparatus known as the ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence), allegedly ordered Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to the alleged lead hijacker Mohammad Atta, met with "unspecified officials at the White House" AT THE TIME OF THE ATTACKS.
The 9/11 Families submitted 100's of questions to the 9/11 Commission in the hopes that they would be answered. The ISI connection to 9/11 was one of them.
22) On the issue of state sponsored terrorism:
- Why did Mahmood Ahmed, Director of Pakistan's secret service, the (ISI) order Saeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to hijacker Mohamed Atta?
- What was Mahmood Ahmed's relationship with Al Qaeda?
- Where did the money come from?
- Did officials in Pakistan know in advance about the terrorist attack?
- On September 11 th, Mahmood Ahmed had a breakfast meeting in Washington, D.C., with House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairmen, Rep. Porter Goss and Senator Bob Graham. What were they discussing?
Since the 9/11 Report doesn't bother to cover any of this, and instead denies any knowledge of it, it is reasonable to assume that they are intentionally covering up the White House's relationship with someone who may have helped to finance the 9/11 attacks.
Do you think that's significant?
___________________________________
"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
And...
This has "inside job" written ALL OVER IT. Since the 9/11 Report is what they put forward to give us a "full and complete" accounting of the 9/11 attacks, and instead chose to "tell the story" designed by Philip Zelikow, and the White House, this report, itself, would become a piece of evidence, I believe, in a court of law. A REAL court of law.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
And...
It makes this request a little more significant as well.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
And...
“There are many in (Pakistani President) Musharraf’s government who believe that Saeed Sheikh’s power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA. The theory is that ... Saeed Sheikh was bought and paid for.” (Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 3/3/2002)
Hmmmm... wasn't George Tenet meeting with Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad in Pakistan months before 9/11?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
A word about...
Bill Doyle... from Wiki...
Doyle is a member of the Coalition of 9/11 Families, board member of the World Trade Center United Family Group, treasurer and board member of the 9/11 Families for a Secure America, and co-lead plaintiff in the 9/11 Families United to Bankrupt Terrorism. He also serves as either a board member or consultant to many other 9/11 organizations throughout the country. He is recognized as having the largest outreach to the 9/11 families including the physically injured through his own support group network
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
"I guess I have to get this
"I guess I have to get this thing started."
Sorry, I (once more) didn't "get" what this particular blog entry of yours was about....
You can't...
Figure out that I'm putting forward the 9/11 Report, itself, as evidence against those who perpetrated the attacks of 9/11, and asking people to discuss the reasons why? Sorry man. I didn't think it was that hard to understand.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Jon, once more -- your style
Jon,
once more -- your style to start discussing certain things is sometimes very confusing to innocent readers of this site (and to me too). But we all know you can do much better.
My comment stems from a time when there was only the main story, and not yet your first comment.
Only your first comment starts to make clear, what you are aiming for. (Maybe it's also because I'm not a native speaker... tell me if you do not want to talk to foreigners, and I'll take it into account.)
But if no other argument does convince you: think about people that like to print out material from this website to hand out to colleagues (like I do). We now have a nice new feature to do so -- but it only works for the main story. Your comment (which makes clear what you want to do) is not printed. In other words: the main story is useless in itself. But it shouldn't!
Also, think about people who come just for quick visits (and don't have time to plough through each and every comment thread). How should they know that the main meat is in a comment below??
Cheers.
Sorry...
I thought it was self explanatory. I will try to keep foreign eyes in mind.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Norman Minneta's testimony
Norman Minneta's testimony directly conflicts with the commisions accounting of the Vice President's whereabouts at the time of the Pentagon attack.
They are
CERTAINLY protecting Vice President Richard Cheney.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
And...
SInce these people wanted to go to war with both Afghanistan and Iraq, and wanted to take control of all three branches of Government, and wanted to take away our civil liberties, and wanted to increase military spending to ridiculous proportions, and wanted to make money for their already very rich friends, and managed to do ALL OF THIS, I think it's safe to say the cover-up behind 9/11 has NOTHING to do with incompetence. These are NOT incompetent people.
___________________________________
"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."