Conyers Betrays Impeachment

Another Day in the Empire

Friday November 10th 2006, 6:13 pm


John Conyers, Ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, didn’t mean it.

“The incoming speaker has said that impeachment is off the table. I am in total agreement with her on this issue: Impeachment is off the table,” Conyers declared after the Democrats stormed the House and Senate.

But wait a minute.

Didn’t Conyers seek to create a select committee to investigate Bush crimes and make recommendations regarding grounds for impeachment?

Last December, Conyers, along with Senator Barbara Boxer and Congressmen John Lewis, said Bush committed impeachable offenses by illegally ordering the National Security Agency to eavesdrop inside the country without a court warrant. Conyers introduced measures to censure Bush and Cheney, not for the NSA snoop case but for telling lies and fabricating scary campfire stories resulting in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. He released The Constitution in Crisis: The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution and Cover-ups in the Iraq War.

While such “charges clearly rise to the level of impeachable misconduct, because the Bush Administration and the Republican-controlled Congress have blocked the ability of Members to obtain information directly from the Administration concerning these matters, more investigatory authority is needed before recommendations can be made regarding specific Articles of Impeachment. As a result, we recommend that Congress establish a select committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war detailed in this Report and report to the Committee on the Judiciary on possible impeachable offenses.”

It looked like Conyers, as a long-term congress critter, actually had the cojones to go up against the neocon criminals.


“In this campaign, there was an orchestrated right-wing effort to distort my position on impeachment,” Conyers declared. “To be sure, I have substantial concerns about the way this administration has abused its authority, but impeachment would not be good for the American people. The country does not want or need any more paralyzed partisan government—it wants a check and balance and real progress on the issues that matter to their lives.”

Regrettably, it now appears Conyers’ mock Judiciary Committee hearing last June was little more than theater. If anything came out of the meeting, it was the indictment delivered by Ray McGovern. But then McGovern is not an elected representative, not part of the Judiciary Committee, mock or otherwise, and the corporate media dismissed him as a raving anti-Semite, that is to say McGovern didn’t have nice things to say about the neocons and Israel, all of it naturally true.

In short, if you think Bush and crew will be brought to justice, you may as well wish for a chartreuse pony.

If you thought Conyers was a principled man, think again—he is looking at the chairmanship of the House Judiciary Committee, after all, and he certainly does not want to jeopardize this by doing the right thing.

Go along to get along and the truth be damned.

“Clearly, Pelosi, representing the Democratic National Committee (DNC), has made a deal with the criminals on Pennsylvania Ave., and intends to keep tight control of the new Democratic House majority. If she succeeds, Bush and Cheney will not be held accountable for their high crimes and misdemeanors,” Carol Wolman wrote a few scant days ago. “Under John Conyers’ leadership, we have a fair chance of impeaching Bush and Cheney, who are doing their best to destroy our democracy, and of starting to repair the damage.”

Wolman, and the rest of us, were sold down the river.

I feared as much, not trusting Democrats far as I can throw them, although I reluctantly backed down from my assertion prior to the election that a vote for any of these people would be a vote for treason. I declared my support for Democrats who said they would pursue impeachment. Now the numero uno Democrat supposedly behind impeachment has betrayed those of us who actually put credence in his promise, or what appeared to be a promise.

I should have known better. I should have stuck to my guns.

None of these traitors will impeach the September criminals, also the March criminals, as in March 20, 2003, when the neocons invaded Iraq under massive false pretenses.

Call me cynical. I can only say that we cannot trust anybody in Congress to do the right thing. I’ve said this nigh onto nearly thirty years.

Unfortunately, not even Ron Paul, the best Congress has to offer, has gone on the books and declared nine eleven an inside job. As the midterm elections now fade into history, we are even less likely to impeach Bush and Cheney and justice in regard to nine eleven is even more remote than it was two years ago.

Pelosi and Conyers stand with Bush and the neocons.

Few should actually be surprised.

Perhaps Ron Paul could do

Perhaps Ron Paul could do something. He's one of the last American politicians left.


"but impeachment would not be good for the American people"

Didn't Lee Hamilton say the same thing about holding those responsible, accountable, in regards to the Iran/Contra investigation?

87% of the American people WANT Bush to be impeached. How can you say that wouldn't be good for the American people?

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

The implication here being . . .

things are so effed up, thanks to BushCo, that we can't traumatize the American people any further by actually holding them accountable for all the things they effed up: crimes which, if exposed, would make Richard Nixon look like a choir boy.

It's absurd but it's politics.


And, oh yeah,

now that you mention it, I don't suppose impeaching Clinton for his sex life was particularly healthy for the American people, either. But we spent $100 million taxpayer dollars doing it while the 911 Commission got $13 mill.

Sex Life

The Republicans were probably most upset that Clinto chose to have relations with a grown woman.... of her own free will

*Clears throat*.... jeffgannon

andif you really take a closer look at the scandal.... you may find that it was a distraction from some much much larger incident

I always thought that the recorded phone confessions from Lewinski to what's her name were the most rediculous and comical part of the story.

I don't get it....

I used to think that Conyers had guts. Why is he now such a wimp?

Does anyone have any idea? How do 'they' keep people like Conyers in check?

It brings to mind Webster Tarpley's 'shadow government'. I mean, who is really controlling the government, and how are 'they' keeping a string on people like Conyers?

Conyers was THE go-to guy

Conyers was THE go-to guy for impeachment, for the Downing Street memo. I've got to think they're threatening his life on this, but gimme a break here!

why would you eevr mistake the dog and pony show

with reality?

face it--they are ALL compromised. they will only respond to mass public awareness, outrage, and peaceful nonviolent demonstrations like a general strike. this country is flirting with disaster with its ignorance--no two ways around it. right now you're either working hard to get the truth out or you are just waiting to be betrayed and lied to again and again. do not rely on politicians--reach out to your fellow citizens. yes it's hard, that's because it's worth doing. get out of the chat rooms and into the streets!


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Before we get our briefs in a bundle...

Here's one likely possibility:

Impeachment proceedings right after the elections would look divisive and the pasty democrats are totally concerned with presenting a responsible, read conservative, front coming out of the gate. They need to get stuff done in the next two years, and despite their majority, would face a tough fight for impeachment. Its not necessarily worth the investment of the political capital they are holding right now.

In fact, they may simply be holding back as there are many lawsuits pending against the Administration from within and without the government. They've broken too many laws to count, and now they won't be able to so easily avoid the consequences. Russ Feingold put a measure before congress to censure the president. Many, including Conyers did not support this as they wanted to pursue impeachment.

But now they can let the legal process put these people in the same position without creating the appearance of causing a divisive national drama.

It makes a lot more sense than thinking that Conyers suddenly sold out the man. He's got to play it cool for a minute. Let those who lost the election think maybe he's not out to take advantage of the power he has gained.

For the moment, we can't be certain. But politics is always a few layers deeper than we most often realize. Rather than being so bold as to question Conyers' character, it would be better for us to first assume that there is more going on than we know about.

And you can't analyze the actions of those in the mainstream from a continuously revolutionary standpoint. You can't expect of them more than you can recognize that they are willing or able to offer. Conyers, while an amazing public servant, and national treasure in many respects, is also a Democratic congressman. He can't just up and propose something that has inadequate support from the right people. We have to give him credit for doing what is possible in his environment, which he possibly dislikes as much as we would.

Don't ask people to throw away their careers. Those committed to the institution can only be so independent. Its up to us to say what he can not. And in doing so, demonstrate the support that would allow him to advance our concerns.

Not that he's ever going to come out for 9/11 truth. Let's not be foolish in our expectations of anyone presently serving in our government. However, as the movement comes close to achieving critical mass in this country, legislators like Conyers will have a greater degree of latitude, and may come to support the cause.

We've just got to keep doing what we've been doing, and doing it better.

International Truth Movement

War brings out thieves and

War brings out thieves and peace hangs them.

"Not on the table" does not mean "out of the question.."
Impeachment advocates must keep doing what we are doing: giving the politicians the "cover" (pressure from the people) to do what the best of them are wanting to do, and will do when the investigations and the constantly increasing pressure from the voters reach the critical mass which will allow them to come out looking good to their constituents and the country at large.

If that is wrong, then we will anyway have done all we can do to make them represent our majority demand for impeachments, and can then continue to work to hold them accountable for their refusal.


I just got an email from John Conyers. Here's a blurb.

As many of you also know, I have agreed with Speaker-to-be Pelosi that impeachment is off the table. Instead, we agree that oversight, accountability and checks and balances – which have been sorely lacking for the last six years – must occur. I have nothing but respect for those who might disagree, but that is where I come out.

Having devoted a considerable amount of time and attention to detailing the many abuses of the Bush Administration, I firmly believe that we have brought these matters to the attention of the American people and the mainstream media, and that their verdict was reflected in the elections on November 7. I consider the now famous “basement hearings” and the issuance of my “Constitution in Crisis” Report to be among the watershed achievements of my more than forty years in Congress.

Sooooooo... voting the criminal fascists responsible for so many atrocities out of office is their punishment?



"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

You know what this says to

You know what this says to me?

They know that we know.... so we are going to now control them with it.... the power has now moved into the hands of the people in possession of the secret and the means to do something with their knowledge.... if they refuse to play ball and do things the way the holders of the secret want them done then the secret will no longer be a secret and the guilty will subsequently be in big big trouble.

It's all about weilding the power.... It's politics... It's how it works.... and this secret is a big one that could pay big dividends in the power struggle for many years to come.

This scenario evemplefies everything wrong with American Politics

It is once again the responsibility of the American People... beause the politicians will simply use this to their advantage... partly because they can and we let them..... and partly because a scandal and crime of this magnitude threatens the positions of every one of our politicians as well as the foundations and fundtions of our government.