Although his angle is along the lines of Alex Jones and some of his information on his website is very entertaining, I am not sure he is effective. I could be wrong. That said, it is nice to see him spreading this in my hometown of San Diego, even if I have problems with some of Loose Change.. I love his piece on Barnse & Noble carrying the Satanic Bible. It made me laugh. Classic! "BARNES & NOBLE CARRIES THE SATANIC BIBLE!!!"
---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.
Who ever said the 9/11 truth movement was dead? This guy is great. Let's get him on every campus. Take up a collection.
Admitedly, most of us don't have the personality to do that kind of stuff. I confess, I'm an introvert. My nervous system would have shut down half way through that biology class. But he kept going and going.
The rap music was great. That was cool when the rappers mentioned skull and bones.
This is definitely becoming a resistence movement unlike any before.
that rapper would be Paris, whos latest album cover shows a plane flying into the White House,haha. the guy is fearless, next to Immortal Technique, hes probably the best political rapper out there.
I noticed a numberof students raised their hands. Cool. But what this guy was REALLY aiming for was all the people who didn't raise their hands, right? Better to make available the option to learn something new and make up their own mind, rather than make them feel like they are incredibly ignorant or (more likely) you are a raving soapboxer.
The message should always be: Here's something that may open your mind. Something different you may not know about. Explore. Research. Think. Decide for yourself what is truth.
The whole 'this is this, that is that' attitude doesn't cut it for a lot of people, the moment you try to tell them what they should believe, you loose their attention.
Much better to guide people to the truth. Make them feel like they discovered it for themselves. Much more powerful.
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/15/2006 - 7:35am.
I am not out there spreading the truth like this guy, so he is doing more than me. I tend to bring up conversations casually and have in depth conversations rather than the soapbox type spreading. I am probably being too critical. The problem I have with Loose Change is the speculation of some things like missles & voice morphing technology being used. I am one who doesn't like a lot of speculation. Now, granted, I do speculate with some areas, but I try and avoid it as much as possible. All in all, it is about gaining interest in the subject and letting the individuals discover what they think is true, so my criticism is probably too harsh.
---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.
There are lots of other videos, books, webcasts, articles, etc. "Loose Change" is too spooky/hip-hop for some people AND it (like all 9/11 videos) doesn't cover every angle (there are so many angles!).
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/15/2006 - 9:16pm.
This just may be the best damned activist video I have ever seen! Seriously, this is impressive, that whole campus had a meme implanted in one day, the contents of the dvd itself is almost irrelevant compared to the action, although kudos to avery rowe and bermas for putting that many dvds to good use...
He presents himself charismatically and is approachable, but doesn't even really ask for permission. Those who will toss the dvd regardless of what he says still will, but more people are reached...
God I hate rap, but it sure provides the perfect tempo for swallowing their purple pills. And, yeah, this guy's got it happening. I'm still waiting to see someone do this Blues Brothers style, with the PA speakers atop an old black 'Caddie. Surely this would work on Broadway, in downtown L.A. at lunchtime.
You can hate the genre of rap...but how can you hate the message of that song? Paris makes some pretty good music.
Anyone else who likes rap with a serious political message listen to:
The Coup
Dead Prez
Talib Kweli
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Jedi Mind Tricks
and discover plenty others!
It's not like that crap you see on TV with the bling bling and fast cars...real rap has always been underground and intelligent!
And if you like metal, (as I do as well) do yourself a favor and check out the little known Ministry album "Rio Grande Blood" which is basically all 9/11 truth related. There's even a video that achieved rotation called "Lies" that features Dylan Avery's voice sampled and lowered from LCSE. Quality stuff, easy to rock out with.
ive been a fan of Ministry since i was like 14. im 24 now. i got the new album as soon as it came out and was blown away that they had clips from Loose Change in one of the songs.
This is some great way to spread the news. I like to get on the Subway in NYC and simply tell it like it is. I don't howevr refer to everyone as zombies, I use the term sheeple. It seems to get right through to people. I wish I had some help, I even own a very good camera and can edit. I also don't have free Loose Change videos to pass out. I've fried my DVD burner making copies of all sorts of Truth films. I'm also holding a free viewing of 911 Press for Truth in SoHo, NYC on Sunday, 11/26/06, at 2pm at 32 Watts Street, which is 2 blocks north of Canal Street between West Broadway and 6th Avenue. It's free.
We need John Connors on every campus....burning & handing out DVDs, infiltrating classes, getting the word out....
Looks like a great way to meet (smart) people, as well...couldn't hurt someone's social life, as an added bonus....your opening line is taken care of ..... :)
How about staging college events with a Truth-aware bands, showing 9/11 Truth film clips during the breaks in music? Passing out DVDs and information there also.
As we get closer to attacks on Iran and a subsequent draft, and college students realize how American Imperialism will affect them directly, this can only pick up steam on college campuses.
This is NOT a good way to spread truth -- that professor was just alienated and students were called "MTV zombies." If he had simply said one sentence and then passed them out with a short flyer he could have done something good, but yelling around the room only makes us look like we're all belligerent.
And Loose Change is full of errors and biases - they are sure that a commercial jet never hit the Pentagon when anyone with a brain knows that no conclusion can be reached from the evidence we have, and those promoting the idea that it couldn't possibly be Fl 77 are only going to make us all look like idiots when the videos are finally released.
I have handed out over 1700 9-11 DVD's.
In the last month i handed out over 400 9-11 mysteries pt 1 DVD's.
Go to firestations and pass them to firemen/women.
Leave them on police cars. etc etc
That is great. I also like to zero in on anyone I feel has a strong sense of Patriotism yet seem to still be blind (the types that are "America, love it or leave it!"). I challenge them on their Patriotism and ask them if their country at least deserves to take a second look at maybe the worst attacks we've ever experienced. Is their loyalty blind or is it honest and brave loyalty.
Yeah 9/11 Mysteries, Terrorstorm, Martial Law, Improbable Collapse would all have been better choices.
The problem with Loose Change is that while it is good at getting people to ask questions, it does have flaws that have been effectively pointed out. Many people will simply "throw out the baby with the bathwater" unfortunately.
I swear to god every thread here has one or two posts (sometimes more) talking down on someone trying to do their best to spread the truth.
JOHN CONNORS IS A HERO! I've never seen him in action before! He's amazing! We need more people just like him handing out stuff. You dont' have to say what he says or give out his exact video choice, but HAND OUT DVDS OF YOUR CHOICE.
DON'T DISCREDIT HIM FOR NOT HANDING OUT YOUR CHOICE OF MOVIES OR TALKING HOW YOU WOULD!!!
Why is there so much backstabbing in 9/11 truth?
WHO CARES how he does it???? Everyone has their own way of doing things, stop the hate!!!
EVERY THREAD you guys poo poo all over a dedicated 9/11 truther.
Its insane!
I don't mean to detract from the legitimate effort Connor is doing, but I wish he would less repugnant and devicive in his tactics. He has attacked entire religous groups as being "part of the problem".
My problem with him is that his activism doesn't stop at 9/11 truth, government accountability or Constitutional preservation, but continues into the realm of religous bigotry and sensationalism. If he would avoid that, the movement would be a lot better off. And again, all the points were great in the classroom but then calling people zombies and telling them to "go back to mtv" is belligerent, devicive and will turn people off. I would not go so far as to say that he did more harm than good, but his tactics could definitely be improved for the sake of effectiveness. Noone in this movement should have such a huge ego that they are above constructive crticism, myself included.
Btw, I personally am very active here in the area in passing out activist DVD's, local screenings and I run a locally-oriented web site.. so I am not some lazy message-board dweller commenting from the peanut gallery.
35-mph frontal impact - At 35 mph (56 kph), the car runs straight into a solid concrete barrier. This is equivalent to a car moving at 35 mph hitting another car of comparable weight moving at 35 mph. (*Newton)
Click the image, watch the clip. Remember cars are steel, and have active bumpers out front.
Newton says that each action has an equal and opposite reaction as the clip above proves. In other words, a plane hitting a building would be equal to the building hitting any plane. In effect, had a plane hit the WTC towers, it would have crashed into itself coming the other way.
If that car had been driven by Hani Hanjour, it would have slipped through a mouse size hole in the wall, on through the next building or two, vaporize into thin air…leaving only DNA and an intact passport or two!
Shows complete ignorance of the laws of physics, if that car had hit the wall at 500mph, it would have disintegrated. Go back to school moron.
Maybe read up on some Newton.
I'm sorry, I love seeing this type of activism, but "John Conner" and his "Resistance Manifesto" just seem like some kind of CIA put up job to me. That's my personal opinion, it seems a bit contrived and artificial.
I love it! More hate for someone out there trying to spread 9/11 truth!
Do you have ANY proof whatsoever or you just making accusations with no merit?
HE'S A WITCH, BURN HIM!!!
Cmon now, quit stabbing each other in the back people...if anything YOU are a CIA man for continuing to spread this hate on 9/11 truthers!!!
(obviously, you're not CIA, I'm just showing you how everyone can be labeled CIA by 9/11 Truthers nowadays. We have to be more careful on who we label from the jump without any evidence. Of course, we also have to be suspicious towards anyone but cmon why would the CIA pay this guy to walk around colleges handing out Loose Change and calling in Hannity, Limbaugh, O Reilly and friends and constantly hounding them. It makes 0 sense.
Stop spreading hate and continue the movement people!!!!
"Cmon now, quit stabbing each other in the back people...if anything YOU are a CIA man for continuing to spread this hate on 9/11 truthers!!!"
You just negated your own plea for equanimity. What's up with "the finger" everybody keeps giving everybody else? You know, as in "pointing the finger" every which way? Yes, we shouldn't blindly trust others, particularly faceless, nameless others logging data bits on a server somewhere but conversely, don't forget that accusing someone of being a government agent is fairly serious and should really be reserved for those who are suspected of committing real trespasses, so justice can be served properly, AS IT SHOULD BE, in a movement with solidarity. That is, unless you consider this "movement" just a big joke, something to pass the time while you sit and stare at the computer pixel. Cry wolf when necessary, otherwise you're wasting time and diluting the seriousness of these efforts. Shootin' off the guns is fun, but there are times when it interferes.
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/15/2006 - 9:41pm.
How so? What did he do but hand out 1000 DVD's of "Loose Change"? How would the CIA possibly benefit from that? Do you think the discs were laced with LSD?
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/15/2006 - 9:30pm.
This is awesome to watch; the guy is, overall, pretty funny and hands out 1000 DVD's, nitpicking not included. Something to be gleaned from this is that in a public situation like this, the camera/microphone combo probably makes (a vast majority of) people feel safer and less likely to avoid the activist, maybe even more likely to go there, because they think they might get on TV or something, and overall, more likely to walk out with a DVD in their hands. It's probably interpreted as safer because it's not as "lone nut"-ty because it's on film, you know, there's safety in that for the stranger being approached in a way.
Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/15/2006 - 9:45pm.
Get with the programming, dude. Look at what's on MTV. There's a reason that they elevated Snoop-doggy-bull-shit, and Madonna to the highest honor-roll in the Nation's history. Wait, I forgot about Paris Hilton, she's hot, no?
Someone explain to me why calling some kids zombies who didn't even listen to what he is talking about HURTS the truth movement?
They didn't even stop to acknowledge his existence. I'm not saying they should give him the time of day, but if he wants to call them a name, who cares?
I'm tired of politely asking people to listen to me. If you're not, then continue. Don't bet upset at other people's methods, they're all getting the word out and that's all we need.
The Resistance (Conner) has removed the relevant videos from youtube (gee wonder why.. maybe he's trying to expand his base and these were shitty PR?) but a partial record remains:
I have mixed feelings about this guy...
Although his angle is along the lines of Alex Jones and some of his information on his website is very entertaining, I am not sure he is effective. I could be wrong. That said, it is nice to see him spreading this in my hometown of San Diego, even if I have problems with some of Loose Change.. I love his piece on Barnse & Noble carrying the Satanic Bible. It made me laugh. Classic! "BARNES & NOBLE CARRIES THE SATANIC BIBLE!!!"
---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.
this guy is awesome. If
this guy is awesome. If everybody spread the word like him people would know the truth
Seriously cool
Who ever said the 9/11 truth movement was dead? This guy is great. Let's get him on every campus. Take up a collection.
Admitedly, most of us don't have the personality to do that kind of stuff. I confess, I'm an introvert. My nervous system would have shut down half way through that biology class. But he kept going and going.
The rap music was great. That was cool when the rappers mentioned skull and bones.
This is definitely becoming a resistence movement unlike any before.
that rapper would be Paris,
that rapper would be Paris, whos latest album cover shows a plane flying into the White House,haha. the guy is fearless, next to Immortal Technique, hes probably the best political rapper out there.
It doesn't play - either off
It doesn't play - either off the page or at YouTUbe- they say they're 'brewing some new [nsa?] 'concoctions'.
cr
My suggestion
I noticed a numberof students raised their hands. Cool. But what this guy was REALLY aiming for was all the people who didn't raise their hands, right? Better to make available the option to learn something new and make up their own mind, rather than make them feel like they are incredibly ignorant or (more likely) you are a raving soapboxer.
The message should always be: Here's something that may open your mind. Something different you may not know about. Explore. Research. Think. Decide for yourself what is truth.
The whole 'this is this, that is that' attitude doesn't cut it for a lot of people, the moment you try to tell them what they should believe, you loose their attention.
Much better to guide people to the truth. Make them feel like they discovered it for themselves. Much more powerful.
powerful comes in many forms
'There are many different blossoms in the field of truth.' ~ K. Barret
Thanks, John.
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
So you have problems with both John Connor & Loose Change?
Then what is your method of spreading truth?
IMO, both JC & LC are extremely effective!!!
I'll admit...
I am not out there spreading the truth like this guy, so he is doing more than me. I tend to bring up conversations casually and have in depth conversations rather than the soapbox type spreading. I am probably being too critical. The problem I have with Loose Change is the speculation of some things like missles & voice morphing technology being used. I am one who doesn't like a lot of speculation. Now, granted, I do speculate with some areas, but I try and avoid it as much as possible. All in all, it is about gaining interest in the subject and letting the individuals discover what they think is true, so my criticism is probably too harsh.
---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.
There are lots of other
There are lots of other videos, books, webcasts, articles, etc. "Loose Change" is too spooky/hip-hop for some people AND it (like all 9/11 videos) doesn't cover every angle (there are so many angles!).
if this guy wants to come to harvard i'll pay for hist ticket...
though these kids seem a bit cooler than the average harvard student...
____
Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
haha,this guy is nuts. his
haha,this guy is nuts. his Sean Hannity phone calls are hilarious.
This just may be the best
This just may be the best damned activist video I have ever seen! Seriously, this is impressive, that whole campus had a meme implanted in one day, the contents of the dvd itself is almost irrelevant compared to the action, although kudos to avery rowe and bermas for putting that many dvds to good use...
We should all watch and learn from this.
He presents himself charismatically and is approachable, but doesn't even really ask for permission. Those who will toss the dvd regardless of what he says still will, but more people are reached...
This needs to happen in
This needs to happen in every college, university and high school across the land. Each to their own style....
That's what I'm talkin' about!
God I hate rap, but it sure provides the perfect tempo for swallowing their purple pills. And, yeah, this guy's got it happening. I'm still waiting to see someone do this Blues Brothers style, with the PA speakers atop an old black 'Caddie. Surely this would work on Broadway, in downtown L.A. at lunchtime.
Maybe Dan Aykroyd can be
Maybe Dan Aykroyd can be pulled into the movement!
good hip hop
You can hate the genre of rap...but how can you hate the message of that song? Paris makes some pretty good music.
Anyone else who likes rap with a serious political message listen to:
The Coup
Dead Prez
Talib Kweli
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Jedi Mind Tricks
and discover plenty others!
It's not like that crap you see on TV with the bling bling and fast cars...real rap has always been underground and intelligent!
Immortal Technique is amazing!
And if you like metal, (as I do as well) do yourself a favor and check out the little known Ministry album "Rio Grande Blood" which is basically all 9/11 truth related. There's even a video that achieved rotation called "Lies" that features Dylan Avery's voice sampled and lowered from LCSE. Quality stuff, easy to rock out with.
ive been a fan of Ministry
ive been a fan of Ministry since i was like 14. im 24 now. i got the new album as soon as it came out and was blown away that they had clips from Loose Change in one of the songs.
Effective and Impressive
This is some great way to spread the news. I like to get on the Subway in NYC and simply tell it like it is. I don't howevr refer to everyone as zombies, I use the term sheeple. It seems to get right through to people. I wish I had some help, I even own a very good camera and can edit. I also don't have free Loose Change videos to pass out. I've fried my DVD burner making copies of all sorts of Truth films. I'm also holding a free viewing of 911 Press for Truth in SoHo, NYC on Sunday, 11/26/06, at 2pm at 32 Watts Street, which is 2 blocks north of Canal Street between West Broadway and 6th Avenue. It's free.
Truly Inspirational
We need John Connors on every campus....burning & handing out DVDs, infiltrating classes, getting the word out....
Looks like a great way to meet (smart) people, as well...couldn't hurt someone's social life, as an added bonus....your opening line is taken care of ..... :)
How about staging college events with a Truth-aware bands, showing 9/11 Truth film clips during the breaks in music? Passing out DVDs and information there also.
As we get closer to attacks on Iran and a subsequent draft, and college students realize how American Imperialism will affect them directly, this can only pick up steam on college campuses.
Awesome work, John Connor.
You can see those things if you're on crack I guess, because I
sure don't see them.
Go away with this cartoon-plane junk already!
I guess mongoloids have no
I guess mongoloids have no problems with invisible planes, it fits perfectly into their childish minds.
This is NOT a good way to spread truth!!!
This is NOT a good way to spread truth -- that professor was just alienated and students were called "MTV zombies." If he had simply said one sentence and then passed them out with a short flyer he could have done something good, but yelling around the room only makes us look like we're all belligerent.
And Loose Change is full of errors and biases - they are sure that a commercial jet never hit the Pentagon when anyone with a brain knows that no conclusion can be reached from the evidence we have, and those promoting the idea that it couldn't possibly be Fl 77 are only going to make us all look like idiots when the videos are finally released.
Sifting Through Loose Change
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
AA-77 did not slam through the Pentagon!
http://www.911blogger.com/node/4498#comment-88988
I have handed out over 1700 9-11 DVD's
I have handed out over 1700 9-11 DVD's.
In the last month i handed out over 400 9-11 mysteries pt 1 DVD's.
Go to firestations and pass them to firemen/women.
Leave them on police cars. etc etc
I love that bit about Firemen and Police...
...I totally agree....those are the people we need to reach first....
Well done.
Fireman & Police
That is great. I also like to zero in on anyone I feel has a strong sense of Patriotism yet seem to still be blind (the types that are "America, love it or leave it!"). I challenge them on their Patriotism and ask them if their country at least deserves to take a second look at maybe the worst attacks we've ever experienced. Is their loyalty blind or is it honest and brave loyalty.
Why LC?
He would have been better off handing out copies of "9/11 Press for Truth," or Terrorstorm..
;-)
TerrorStorm maybe.
TerrorStorm maybe.
LC remains the best film....
....for the under-30 crowd, IMO....and it remains, despite some imperfections, one of the best 9/11 films yet. Very good choice for this effort.
I do think a mix of LC, Terrorstorm, and 9/11 Mysteries might've been good also, especially if you gave one of each to groups who could trade.
Yeah 9/11 Mysteries,
Yeah 9/11 Mysteries, Terrorstorm, Martial Law, Improbable Collapse would all have been better choices.
The problem with Loose Change is that while it is good at getting people to ask questions, it does have flaws that have been effectively pointed out. Many people will simply "throw out the baby with the bathwater" unfortunately.
Variety is good, it prevents a single-sweep debunking tactics
I have several ready-made activist DVD images that I use in the local area here, and one is a combo of Martial Law and Loose Change.
I don't like to leave people with only one film on the subject, but to give them at least a couple viewpoints on the subject.
Another DVD i use has Press for Truth and David Griffin's CSPAN speech, and some other short info clilps. I have found this one to be very effective.
I can send a copy of these to anyone who wants one to reproduce for activist purposes:
http://www.utah911truth.com/dvd.htm
true, and very good idea mixing PFT with DRG
____
Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
I swear to god every thread
I swear to god every thread here has one or two posts (sometimes more) talking down on someone trying to do their best to spread the truth.
JOHN CONNORS IS A HERO! I've never seen him in action before! He's amazing! We need more people just like him handing out stuff. You dont' have to say what he says or give out his exact video choice, but HAND OUT DVDS OF YOUR CHOICE.
DON'T DISCREDIT HIM FOR NOT HANDING OUT YOUR CHOICE OF MOVIES OR TALKING HOW YOU WOULD!!!
Why is there so much backstabbing in 9/11 truth?
WHO CARES how he does it???? Everyone has their own way of doing things, stop the hate!!!
EVERY THREAD you guys poo poo all over a dedicated 9/11 truther.
Its insane!
I don't mean to detract from
I don't mean to detract from the legitimate effort Connor is doing, but I wish he would less repugnant and devicive in his tactics. He has attacked entire religous groups as being "part of the problem".
My problem with him is that his activism doesn't stop at 9/11 truth, government accountability or Constitutional preservation, but continues into the realm of religous bigotry and sensationalism. If he would avoid that, the movement would be a lot better off. And again, all the points were great in the classroom but then calling people zombies and telling them to "go back to mtv" is belligerent, devicive and will turn people off. I would not go so far as to say that he did more harm than good, but his tactics could definitely be improved for the sake of effectiveness. Noone in this movement should have such a huge ego that they are above constructive crticism, myself included.
Btw, I personally am very active here in the area in passing out activist DVD's, local screenings and I run a locally-oriented web site.. so I am not some lazy message-board dweller commenting from the peanut gallery.
no need to go into a CAPSLOCK FRENZY!!!!11
Not all criticism of your new hero is "insane" or "backstabbing".
Why don't you calm the fuck down?
Loose Change is 99% truth, maybe 1% flaws. It is the best
introductory truth video out there, period!
if that car
had hit that wall at 500mph it would have disintegrated the wall and blazed straight through it.
If that car
If that car had been driven by Hani Hanjour, it would have slipped through a mouse size hole in the wall, on through the next building or two, vaporize into thin air…leaving only DNA and an intact passport or two!
Post this on a blog, man;
Post this on a blog, man; this has nothing to do with John Connor, SDSU or "Loose Change."
Shows complete ignorance of
Shows complete ignorance of the laws of physics, if that car had hit the wall at 500mph, it would have disintegrated. Go back to school moron.
Maybe read up on some Newton.
I'm sorry, I love seeing
I'm sorry, I love seeing this type of activism, but "John Conner" and his "Resistance Manifesto" just seem like some kind of CIA put up job to me. That's my personal opinion, it seems a bit contrived and artificial.
*Heavy Sigh*
I love it! More hate for someone out there trying to spread 9/11 truth!
Do you have ANY proof whatsoever or you just making accusations with no merit?
HE'S A WITCH, BURN HIM!!!
Cmon now, quit stabbing each other in the back people...if anything YOU are a CIA man for continuing to spread this hate on 9/11 truthers!!!
(obviously, you're not CIA, I'm just showing you how everyone can be labeled CIA by 9/11 Truthers nowadays. We have to be more careful on who we label from the jump without any evidence. Of course, we also have to be suspicious towards anyone but cmon why would the CIA pay this guy to walk around colleges handing out Loose Change and calling in Hannity, Limbaugh, O Reilly and friends and constantly hounding them. It makes 0 sense.
Stop spreading hate and continue the movement people!!!!
"Cmon now, quit stabbing
"Cmon now, quit stabbing each other in the back people...if anything YOU are a CIA man for continuing to spread this hate on 9/11 truthers!!!"
You just negated your own plea for equanimity. What's up with "the finger" everybody keeps giving everybody else? You know, as in "pointing the finger" every which way? Yes, we shouldn't blindly trust others, particularly faceless, nameless others logging data bits on a server somewhere but conversely, don't forget that accusing someone of being a government agent is fairly serious and should really be reserved for those who are suspected of committing real trespasses, so justice can be served properly, AS IT SHOULD BE, in a movement with solidarity. That is, unless you consider this "movement" just a big joke, something to pass the time while you sit and stare at the computer pixel. Cry wolf when necessary, otherwise you're wasting time and diluting the seriousness of these efforts. Shootin' off the guns is fun, but there are times when it interferes.
Shootin' off the guns is
Shootin' off the guns is fun, but there are times when it interferes, when it's careless and thoughtless, or just badly motivated in general.
How so? What did he do but
How so? What did he do but hand out 1000 DVD's of "Loose Change"? How would the CIA possibly benefit from that? Do you think the discs were laced with LSD?
OK, you mean the website.
OK, you mean the website. True, it's unnecessary.
DBLS, as long as the Conner is actually handing out copies of
Loose Change (and it isn't just a ruse to hand-out disinfo instead), I can't see anything wrong about what he's doing.
This is awesome to watch;
This is awesome to watch; the guy is, overall, pretty funny and hands out 1000 DVD's, nitpicking not included. Something to be gleaned from this is that in a public situation like this, the camera/microphone combo probably makes (a vast majority of) people feel safer and less likely to avoid the activist, maybe even more likely to go there, because they think they might get on TV or something, and overall, more likely to walk out with a DVD in their hands. It's probably interpreted as safer because it's not as "lone nut"-ty because it's on film, you know, there's safety in that for the stranger being approached in a way.
Will somebody please enlighten me ...
... as to why it's a good idea for this guy to start off his video piece by calling the students of San Diego State University "Zombies?"
This clip has been getting heavy rotation on the debunking sites before coming here, BTW.
Zombie Nation, That's why!
Get with the programming, dude. Look at what's on MTV. There's a reason that they elevated Snoop-doggy-bull-shit, and Madonna to the highest honor-roll in the Nation's history. Wait, I forgot about Paris Hilton, she's hot, no?
stop hating...
Someone explain to me why calling some kids zombies who didn't even listen to what he is talking about HURTS the truth movement?
They didn't even stop to acknowledge his existence. I'm not saying they should give him the time of day, but if he wants to call them a name, who cares?
I'm tired of politely asking people to listen to me. If you're not, then continue. Don't bet upset at other people's methods, they're all getting the word out and that's all we need.
Stop hating? Tell it to John Conner
The Resistance (Conner) has removed the relevant videos from youtube (gee wonder why.. maybe he's trying to expand his base and these were shitty PR?) but a partial record remains: