Mid-Week Grab Bag
I can't remember the last time we had one of these, here is a round up of the latest news:
Skeptic magazine writes a 9/11 hit piece - skeptic.com
The full doubletree Pentagon video compliments of Scott at flight77.info
BCC Complaint re Today with Pat Kenny - 911truth.ie
The O'Reilly Harbor Toss - mujca.com
Tune into KPFK on Wednesday, December 6th at 2 PM, for the premiere of Profiles in Peace, a radio series that documents, for history, the leading activists of the 21st century peace movement. Hosted by Doreen Key, Profiles in Peace explores the lives and motives of those who make the world a better place to live.
This week Doreen speaks with a true hero William Rodriguez, who helped rescue hundreds of people on 9/11 as the North Tower of the World Trade Center came crashing down. His story is not only one of bravery in the face of extreme danger but also of hope and the pursuit of truth.
Russian Pilot Making Photos 9/11 Flying Above NYC - englishrussia.com
Lost 911 Video - youtubue.com
ANNOUNCEMENT: The Good News and the Bad - st911.org
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Fetzer, you are a disgrace...
I am ashamed that I ever wasted neurons and calories defending you on this message board and others. The loss of Dr. Jones from Scholars is not the trivial matter you imply it is- but rather, the outright death of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
It is with characteristic obliviousness that you would describe a pending summit on the "controversial aspects" of the "science of 9/11" as the "good news".
In the words of the lucid and utterly indignant employee Malcolm on the BBC series "the Office"- "There is no good news, David! It's only bad news and irrelevant news!".
The purpose of your summit is obvious to everyone who is continuing to waste useful time paying mind to you. You intend to alloy legitimate and credible scientific theories (such as Jones' very plausible thermate-as-key-cause-of-tower-collapses hypothesis) with the laughable and idiotic concoctions (frakin' space beams)- thus rendering the final compound produced by the summit utterly corrupted and unworthy of consideration by agnostics to 9/11 Truth.
Congratulations to you, Morgan Reynolds, Judy Woods- and your silent benefactors. I look forward to watching you guys help tank the National 9/11 Debate, and to your continued efforts to erode the credibility of the Truth movement.
I'm sad to see Barrett wasting his time and diminishing his standing by partnering with you for "The Dynamic Duo". That's as destined for eventual schism and acrimony as the next five Britney Spears marriages will be.
That truly is outrageous for Fetzer to invite Wood & Reynolds to
speak about space beams & cartoon planes at the WTC!!! WTF is wrong with him???
Daughter of 9/11 Flight Pilot Is Found Dead After a Fire
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/nyregion/06fire.html?
The bad news is that, as a
The bad news is that, as a consequence of an increasing disparity in our approach and attitude toward the science and the politics of 9/11 research, Steve Jones has resigned as a member of Scholars. He intends to continue his research on these events, however, and it is in all of our interests that his contributions to the community should continue. The good news is, because of the contentious nature of issues that have arisen, Scholars is organizing a conference to be devoted to
The Science of 9/11: Controversial Aspects
which will be held in mid- to late-July in Madison, WI. There will be a key-note speaker and five major sessions devoted to the issues that have tended to divide us. As the program chair, I am inviting Steve Jones to organize a panel discussion of the use of conventional means for destroying the Twin Towers. I am inviting Judy Wood to organize a panel discussion on non-conventional means, including high-tech directed energy weaponry, that might have been used to destroy the World Trade Center. I am inviting Morgan Reynolds to organize a panel on planes/no planes at the WTC and"
Mission Accomplished.
Step one: Create a group called "scholars for 911 truth" that brings together skeptics in the academic community.
Step two: Establish credibility
Step three: Poison the well by promoting absurd speculation
Step four: Marginalize the most important scholar working for 911 truth
Step five: Expand controversy and division by having a "round table meeting"
Step six: Promote speace beams and no planes on Fox News
Nice going Fetz. If you're not working for the government, you may as well be.
It's you who is the fraud CB_Brooklyn, certainly not Prof. Jones
!
Directed Energy Weapons and TV-Fakery are good evidence for
9/11 truth to be promoting??? You are a vile, disgusting shill, CB_Brooklyn!!! Go to hell, & take that bullshit disinfo with you!!!
OK, theories that make truthers seem like lunatics & morons
should not be discussed, IMO. That includes space beams & cartoon planes at the WTC.
In who's eyes?
I've been called a lunatic and moron for suggesting the Towers and 7 was pulled. I've even been called that for simply stating 9/11 was an inside job!!!
Btw, is saying no plane crashed in Shanksville ok?
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Man, all you're stuff besides the cartoon planes @ WTC & the
space beams seems right on, but promoting those two things as 9/11 truth gives me a heart attack! They are pure b.s., and turn-off newbies before they even get started on the right path. (But that's your goal, I must assume.)
Another coward posting anonymously
And a dumb one too because I have no position on "space beams". You guys are brainwashing yourselves with all your hate and divisive rhetoric, you assume I believe everything every other no-planer thinks.
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killtown, these people need to check ALL of the evidence
and put everything in context.
killtown, I don't know how you put up with these brainwashed, childish fools. No need for worry though, these moronic trolls are gonna get flushed out of the movement. How? Laws of Physics!!!
They're too stupid (can't apply physics), too brainwashed (too many video games), and too childish ("my theory is right, you're crazy! Wah Wah Wah!!) to understand. They will eventually be flushed !!!
So why isn't Bushy using space beams & TV-Fakery to win the
war in Iraq then? They must be very formidable weapons, no? Couldn't he take over the world with that shit?
Why didn't he plant WMD's in IRAQ then?
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'cause he didn't need to. He got his war with planting any WMD
!
WMD's couldn't have been planted - an international case it was.
There was already scandal leaked in UK at this time - it was to late to forge evidence.
And it can be clearly seen that you are disinfo agent, as a real truther would not ask such question.
Go f**k yourself.
Cordially,
Salv
molten core
WPI did a study on the molten core in 2002. they tried to explain it away as acid rain. Molten metal is not the least bit in dispute. The self discrediting NIST report said they couldn't find evidence of molten metal. It was there. It has meaning.
http://www.wpi.edu/News/Transformations/2002Spring/steel.html
where do you get off trying to deny this?
Jones is A Fraud?
How convenient for Controlled Demolitions Inc. (Who were johnny on the spot to clean up the WTC rubble) your 'space beam' cut the structural steel into 30 ft chunks perfect for quick clean up..
Are you used to being laughed at yet?
"30 ft chunks"
I'm not a energy weapon proponent (haven't read it all), how did the steel manage to break into 30ft chunks?
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Thermate and/or shaped charges?
Like any other controlled demolition.
Have you ever calculated how much/long that would take?
Well have you?
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There were lots of opportunities
to send teams into the twin towers to plant explosives and you know it.
If you want to research something, KT, look into the people who were responsible for supposedly replacing fireproofing on the *steel* in the months leading up to the 9/11 attack...
"Narrator: The New York Times has reported that the foam fell off (the steel) easily. And the Port Authority had been fixing and replacing missing sections in the months before September 11th."
Quote can be found at 5:31 (into Part 2 of "Anatomy of 9/11"), but I recommend starting the video at 5:15:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qIKVRT4tU&mode=related&search=
how bout looking at (ALL) the evidence?
how bout looking at (ALL) the evidence?
I'm Not Saying You're Wrong.
I am saying we already have enough reasonable doubt with the evidence that exists to warrant an investigation.
It's hard enough to get people to listen to the cold hard truth without talking about 'Space Beams' & 'TV fakery'. If you weren't a Shill, that was trying to thwart a real investigation, you would agree.
The car-toasting is
The car-toasting is peculiar. But where are the eye-witnesses who saw these cars spontaneously toast. 1400 cars, seems like there would be a lot of eyewitness testimony. Also, Judy Woods has listed "not possible by controlled demolition" in reference to the photographs showing the pyroclastic flow, in particular the tsunami image. Excuse me, those were 110 story buildings being demolished, how could they not create that kind of speedy expansion. Why go above and beyond Occam's razor? Except for those cars, which seem of dubious intention, CD explains everything. Oh, and she questions the squibs, going so far as to reference them as "decoy squibs". C'mon. She's going the rout of an Intelligent Designer, when we have the mechanism of controlled demolition here on Earth. Sad, but I am not entirely disheartened, will still persist to teach others to use their critical thinking skills, and to spread the meme of 9-11 Truth. Still plenty of people left who aren't even aware of the concept of False Flag Terrorism.
there's much more though....
Her paper is quite long (but the tabs at the top help organize). Look at the damage to WTC 5 and 6. Also the videos of the tower's spire turning to dust. A standard controlled demolition does not account for all of the evidence. Any valid hypothesis must account for all the data.
The "car-toasting is
The "car-toasting is peculiar?" You obviously haven't read the accounts of the first responders. There was nothing peculiar or "spontaneous" about the car fires. Please get informed.
Workshops...
From 9-10 in room 1
"TV Fakery"
Speaker(s): Nico Haupt
From 10-11 in room 2
"Star Wars Beam"
Speaker(s): Judy Wood & Jim Fetzer
From 11-12 in room 1
"Mini-Nukes"
Speaker(s): Rick Siegel
From 12-1 in room 2
"Holograms"
Speaker(s): Rosalee Grable and Gerard Holmgren
From 1-2 in room 1
"Destroying Credibility"
Speaker(s): Morgan Reynolds, Nico Haupt
From 2-3 in room 3
"Gatekeeping Is Good Once In A While"
Speaker(s): Barrie Zwicker
From 3-4 in room 2
"Where Did Everybody Go?"
Speaker(s): Jim Fetzer, Nico Haupt, Rosalee Grable, Morgan Reynolds, Gerard Holmgren, Rick Siegel, Judy Wood
No disrespect intended for Barrie...
Now please excuse me while I go throw up.
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
Rosalee Grable and Gerard Holmgren
don't believe holograms were used anymore (I don't know if Gerard ever did). That theory's been abandoned a loooooooong time ago by them/her.
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What do you mean?
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Why use cartoon planes @ the WTC when drones work just fine?
Hell of a lot more risky & complicated to rely upon a cartoon plane to strike the 2nd tower...the tower thousands of eyewitnesses were looking up at and who saw a real plane/drone slam into it.
Do you get...
The point?
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
No...
My point was to show that Jim Fetzer's idea of "Good News" is absurd.
I don't make a habit to follow the writings of individuals I think are promoting bad information. If Gerard Holmgren was never promoting "Holograms", then I apologize for the coupling with Rosalee Grable.
It's funny you mention I'm "splitting" the movement apart...
I was just going to say... "Ok, show's over... everyone focus, and move on."
That's what I intend to do. I suggest you do the same. I also suggest 911Blogger.com refrain from posting arguments that should be resolved privately. Even if they somehow find their way into the public arena.
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
noted: onward and forward...
noted: onward and forward...
No way! There are STILL unanswered questions.
Five Years On, Unanswered Questions About December Seventh Remain
In honor of tomorrow\'s sixty-fifth anniversary of Pearl Harbor, I\'ve dredged up a sixty-year-old Routers piece on who was really behind it...
December 7, 1946
HONOLULU (Routers) Five years after the sinking of the battleships in Pearl Harbor, many still question the official government story of what happened on that fateful day, and who was responsible. Some believe that the Roosevelt administration did it themselves, deliberately, making it look like Japanese religious fanatics were responsible, in order to drag the country into a war that they could get by no other means, to benefit arms merchants and the Jews.
The controversy has been renewed by a recently released film documentary, titled \"Loose Ships.\" It makes a compelling case against the Shinto extremist theory, citing inconsistent eyewitness reports, mistaken radar readings, and structural analysis of the sunken battleships.
\"It makes no sense to think that Japanese Shintoists could have done this,\" explains one of the film\'s producers. \"Shinto is a deeply spiritual religion, derived from Buddhism, worshiping nature. A Shintoist would never have desecrated Pearl Harbor with all of that leaking and burning diesel fuel and oil. It is fundamentally a religion of peace.\"
He points out that many eyewitnesses saw American planes in the air that day, and that the radar images that many claim, preposterously in his view, were of the attacking Japanese aircraft, were actually a squadron of American B-17s on its way to Hickam Air Force Base, perhaps to take part in the plot. The Truman administration itself has admitted that there was a group of bombers in the area that morning, on its way from the mainland, though a War Department spokesman claimed that it was too far away and in the wrong direction to appear on radar at that point in time.
The documentarian went on to expand on his theory. \"We don\'t think that Japanese aircraft would have the range to get here all the way from Japan, but if by some miracle they did, it was probably to protect Honolulu, in which many Japanese live, from the administration plot. That\'s probably what people were seeing.\"
Some have examined the wreckage of the Arizona, and claim that it wasn\'t brought down by aerial bombs, but by charges planted on the ship beforehand.
\"Look at those two huge circular holes in the front and rear of the sunken ship,\" he said. \"No bomb is big enough to make a hole that size, and do it so cleanly. It was obviously a shaped charge of some kind. It\'s just not possible to take down ships that big with the little bombs that are carried in those little Japanese airplanes.\"
\"They killed thousands of sailors for their filthy war, and many of them died a long and horrible death in air pockets. And take a look at the roster of the people who died on the Arizona. How many Jewish names do you see there? I think they were warned ahead of time.\"
\"It was all part of the Zionist neo-liberal conspiracy to drag America into a needless war of choice.\"
In response to suggestions that the Japanese used aircraft carriers, and that many of the Japanese planes were torpedo bombers, and that the large holes were the empty sockets for the gun turrets, that were removed afterward, he scoffed. \"That\'s all just Franklin Delano Rosenfeld administration propaganda,\" he sneered knowingly.
Some enterprising and innovative people have carried the analysis further. In one sequence shown in the documentary, a man built a wooden model of the ship in his pond, and filmed himself dropping lit firecrackers on it from above, to demonstrate how preposterous was the notion that ships could be sunk by bombs. They seemed to have no effect other than a slight scorching of the deck, and the sturdy little toy remained afloat.
He was proud of his own small part in uncovering the cover up. \"Other than the fact that the ship is wood, which is much weaker than steel, and I used firecrackers instead of iron bombs, and that there was no ammunition magazine aboard to explode, this is a perfect simulation of what the Roosevelt administration claims happened to the Arizona. But there the ship floats, to show to one and all the administration\'s lie. And how convenient of Roosevelt to die a year and a half ago, so he can avoid having to answer these questions.\"
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/008105.html#008105
Why do you include Barry Zwicker in that group? Please explain
?
Because...
According to Jim Fetzer, he's going to invite him to speak.
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
I love...
Barrie Zwicker. Hence the sentence that said I meant no disrespect.
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
Yes, I missed your point. Zwicker is among the best IMO too
!
Zwicker is great but
he seems to be a bit careless about who he promotes and who he associates with. There are sidebars on a couple of dubious 'truthers' in his book, and some poorly stated facts (like on the back, it says that building 7 had no damage before it collapsed). Still my favorite overview of 9/11, though.
OK, but WTC-7 had merely superficial damage, and no good
explation has been offered as to why the small, scattered fires BEGAN in the first place. Why would debris falling from the nearest tower, 350 feet away, cause small scattered fires in WTC-7?
And why the heck couldn't those small fires be hosed down &
put out?
Supposedly all the water mains in the area broke
Do you believe them?
http://killtown.911review.org/wtc7/collapse.html
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Killtown, you have a real gift for demonstrating great facts
among some very silly disinfo. Why do you do that? It's like you're a split personality or something.
I don't respond to people who post as 'anonymous'
anymore.
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Your loss, not mine
.
I love catching you 9/11 Deniers in blatant LIES.
God, do you REALLY need to spread disinfo to hold up your house of cards, Killtown? I mean, REALLY, show some discretion, man, and not catch let yourself caught in a lie.
Now, tell the truth, killtown You KNOW the water mains were broken on 9/11, after WTC 1 and 2 collapsed, severing the mains so the fires could not be fought in WTC 7.
You also KNOW that water was available to fight the fires in the days AFTER 9/11.
Now DON\"T try to dodge, bubba Killtown, you KNOW WTC 7 collapsed at 5:20PM on 9/11 - don\'t try to deny it; it\'s a matter of record.
You also KNOW that daylight was dwindling at that time and that by the time ANY fire hose from any source could get into position to fight this fire that we see in this photo, the scene would NOT be bathed in the high, bright sunlight we see.
Ooops!, you say, you didn\'t think anyone would catch on, did you? At least you were not counting on your targeted audience, true believers, on questioning you, did you?
It\'s the nature of the beast, deceiving people as you do for a living, killtown.
Sorry, Killtown, once again I have to kill your disinfo and embarrass you again.
Caught? Did you write the following on this website...
please stop the infighting.
just so you know who i am: i\'m not an 9/11 truth activist (yet).
i\'m sitting on the fence of wether to actively dive into this movement more deeply.
in the past i\'ve been involved in the european anti-nuclear power station movement.
here i\'m only a lurker for now, since about 5 months.
i\'m visiting this site a few times each week because the topic has triggered my curiosity.
meanwhile i\'m convinced the government lies, and the three wtc towers did not come down because of fires and jet fuel alone.
somebody must have helped the 19 suspected terrorists (or replaced them).
Be honest, "Anonymous"
Any non-WTC building catch on fire?
If I recall, ONLY WTC building caught fire!
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of course
that's all true. I'm just saying that it's important to be accurate when describing the physical evidence. It's not necessary to exaggerate, in fact I think it's harmful.
Fetzer
can go to Hell. But it's unfortunate he's taking st911.org there with him.
I can't understand...
Why people are so set on trying to figure out what happened.
Who gives a flying f_uck what was used to bring down the towers!? Why is this relevant?
I am so pissed off now because the truth movement appears to be dying (just look at Alexa stats for all major sites) and Fetzer is organizing a conference to dicuss no planes, mini-nukes and space beams. I swear to God I am so mad I wanna puke.
WHO CARES!!! THERE'S NOTHING LEFT THAT WE NEED TO DEBATE!
It is not our job to put the puzzle together...we have enough, so let's run with it.
Aw yes, the modern Truth movement comes full circle
It was only a matter of time before the laughably absurb and embarassing sci fi tip of the "truth" movement got its own conference...at $100 a pop no less!
I remember how the crowd winced everytime someone brought up "cartoon planes" and other crap at the L:A 9/11 symposium.
Here's a conspiracy for ya: the people pushing completely wacky theories are being funded by the same little obxnoxious bastards who proclaim themselves "Debunkers". Of course I'm kidding.
Hearing Michael Berger's thing on truth radio the other night was great. While Berger has devoted a lot of times to the towers, he brought up a lot of startling facts and discoveries ya never hear anyone talk about.
One thing I find kind of strange...people either believe most of the 9/11 posits, or they are rabidly against any notion of a 9/11 coverup/conspiracy. Where are the people who look at everything objectively?
In "JREF" world, you get called crazy for even bringing up 9/11 Press for Truth, in the mdoern circus like truth movement ya get called a "weak Lihopper/shill" for bringing up Press for Truth or disagreeing with certain points of contention.
That Skeptics article only made one good point: With exception of Peter Scott Dale, Michael Chouddofsky,
Nafeez Ahmed, Scott Thompson, etc...you RARELY hear discussions of Islamic extremism, middle eastern politics, etc within the truth movement, or even a look at the official story's origins of the 9/11 plot.
To even say terrorists were involkved at some level is to be called a "shill".
Clearly, radical Islamic is fueld, funded, and used by the elites to bring about chaos.
Looks the the truth movement has been infiltrated by moles at
some very high levels.
BTW, of course there are radical Islamists & other types of fanatics in the world. They also make fine patsies when the elitists want to pull off a false-flag operation as a pretext to begin taking over the world.
Fetzer is acting like a mole, IMO
!
Who cares?
The inherent contradictions of the lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement are bringing you all down together.
You are witnessing the death of your denial movement as we warned you for the last 5 years.
As much as you will deny that reality, too.
9/11 Without Tinfoil - Part 4: CIA BITCHES SKIP TOWN
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1401
Length of Plane in the Doubletree-Pentagon video?
Can anyone calculate the length of the plane in the
Doubletree-Pentagon video? It should not be too
difficult -- simple trigonometry once we know the
distance and angles between the flightpath, the
Pentagon, the Doubletree Hotel, and maybe a few
other landmarks.
I'm willing to bet that the calculation will show
something a lot shorter than a Boeing 757.
let me make an initial guess
let me make an initial guess
ZERO
Flight 77 pilot's daughter killed in suspicious Apt fire
December 5, 2006 - Wendy Burlingame, daughter of Flight 77 pilot Charles Burlingame, is killed in an apartment fire after her boyfriend said they both tried to extinguish the fire, but when they tried to flee out the door, he accidentally shut and locked the front door before she got out and said he wasn't able to get back in to get her.
http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/2006.html#December5,2006-Wendy_Burlingame_killed
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David Lynch speaks about
David Lynch speaks about 9/11 on dutch TV
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8175484657963455824
Thanks for posting this
.
Andrew is right about Foreknowledge complicity and coverup
They are three of our most basic weapons against the average intellectual zombie, from there you move into other areas like the CD which just reinforces those three.
I do like the point system though I haven't had to read one of CB_brooklyns stupid posts.
The issue of 9/11 is charged
The issue of 9/11 is charged regardless of your beliefs, be it in the validity of the "Official" theory or the certainty that it is a lie. I don't think the usual sampling internet readers and 911blogger readers are equivelent in anyway, so to state only persons with strong beliefs vote is does not apply here.
And does your support of radical researchers extend to Judy Wood and by extension Jim Fetzer? This is just a question, not everyone enjoys limmercks.
this from the creator of the Ballad of 9/11 Blogger!
It is not infighting that the point system makes clear, it is the consensus on the site that posters like you are marginal at best, and most likely here to disrupt real truthing activities.
____
Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
What a hypocrite
\"I refuse to condemn anyone who makes a positive contribution to 911 knowledge.\"
What utter and despicable nonsense. You cannot stand the truth about 9/11 and deny it at every opportunity. And now you want to reconcile the splintered factions of those whose very lies about 9/11 are tearing it apart because they REFUSE to deal with the truth to begin with?
Where do you nitwits come from, anyway?
911blogger administration team
Please enforce your own rules:
muckraker report
Has anyone checked out the recent article on the Muckraker Report regarding the "eyewitness" overhearing the planning of 911? Apparantly the "witness" reported what he heard to the FBI but wouldn't release all the details because the FBI refused to grant him protection. Alex Jones reported on this in the 3rd hour of Tuesday's show.
Check out his show or/and visit the Muckraker Report for the article. Your thoughts would be encouraged.
Sorry but I don't have a direct link.
Roger Peters aka dz
Roger Peters aka dz (911blogger.com) annouced fake peace and fake uncensorship
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2230
By ewing2001
UPDATE 12/06:
Roger Peters aka dz (911blogger.com) annouced fake peace and fake uncensorship
http://ewing2001.newsvine.com/_news/2006/12/06/470821-roger-peters-aka-d...
Peters continues to lie and using double swords:
Submitted by dz on Tue, 12/05/2006 - 9:48pm
"...no users have been banned in over a month, and if anyone were currently blocked and wanted that changed all they would have to do is email me...."
(ed: This is a lie, as seen below. Peters/FloumGeorgeWash are still blocking IP addresses and block anonymizers)
911blogger.com to change censorship rules again? (12/05)
picked up at:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/4829
Upcoming Site Changes and Downtime
Tue, 12/05/2006
(ed: 911bloglines.com thinks that Roger Peters aka dz aka dazinith should remove GeorgeWash aka Floum (st911) from 911blogger.com, if he wanna show real "honesty" and/or cooperation.
So far someone at 911b banned several members and censored blog entries and replies.
911bloglines.com is aware that 911b also banned several other IPs, at least 5 anonymizers
and also if someone is using particular anonymizers, they cannot post anonymous,
because the Image Recognition Field is blocked.
Also with some anonymizers, the hidden comments cannot be clicked into "unhidden".
That means as long as these secret tech "rules" do exist, the 'cyberwar' against 911blogger.com will continue and definetely also the re-infiltrations with the topics:
1) Orwellianisation of the 9/11 Truthling Movement
2) Exotic Weaponry on 9/11 and since then
3) 9/11 TV Fakery
If dz aka RP doesn't change these rules, it will be reported on our weekly radio podcast show, no matter if it gets recorded or not.
Submitted by dz on Tue, 12/05/2006 - 2:37am:
"...Just checking out my blog I see it has been about a month since the changes to blog entry submissions. I had not intended it to take as long as it has, nor did I intend for us to be in the position of approving/rejecting blog entries this long either. I am sure that we have pushed some buttons in playing this role, or for making people feel rejected, etc. - so to anyone who has had a blog entry not approved I would like to apologize. I have probably upset quite a large cross section of users across a gamut of reasons so again, I am sorry.
As I stated a little over a month ago it is my intention to put the blog moderation into the hands of the community, and not the team members of this site alone. Putting the moderators of this site into the process of blog submissions was unfortunately necessary given a number of shortcomings to the initial implementation. I'd like to say thank you to the majority of users who have given us the benefit of the doubt, and to those that didn't, well I'm sure I'll hear your complaints over the new system as well ;)
(ed: see also
9/11 Truthling Cult Watch: How Tom Weiss (UpfrontNews) is sabotaging/bandwagoning a coup d'etat concept at ny911truth
(see Addendum Weiss/Haupt Exchange 12/05 at http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html )
http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html
* Posted on: Wed, Dec 6 2006 8:33 AM
Let's put the facts as boldly and wide open on the table to analyse the current
situation between ny911truth.org, 911truth.org and the 9/11 "truth" movement itself.
"We're" doing this boldly because the purpose *IS* actually to indeed destabilize the top of this structure
or to confuse and weaken the self-appointed leadership of this 9/11 "truth" movement.
It is done to minimize their "limited hangout" manipulations, their abusive power and to make sure that the leadership will not be replaced by similar elements.
I consider the 9/11 Truth Movement as a CULT.
We're all currently 'victims' of this cult concept, among them honest and once respected 9/11 Researchers plus
former members of the 9/11 Science and Justice Alliance (2002-2006).
Fact is for me/us, that 911truth.org is manipulated with a cointel-pro concept.
Fact is also that URANTIA member Les Jamieson leads ny911truth.
Fact is also that STARWARS associates lead the "9/11 Truth Movement" (also called "untruth-" or DoubleSpeak Movement),
which we indentified as the so-called Orwellian 9/11 Truthlings or as expressed with another CartoonLanguage: 'STARWARS Axis of Evil':
1)
Robert Bowman (StarWars concept under Ronald Reagan),
who wants to create an Orwellian doublespeak-9/11 "Truth" party and recently "announced" to run
as a President in 2008.
His brainwashed Followers add constantly new "truthers" and hijacked the word "truth" now also
for absurde personalities like Dustin Hoffman or Scott Ritter.
see 911blogger.com
Steven E. Jones (former and/or current associate of Los Alamos and Department of Energy= DOE, who worked on exotic weaponry like
Cold Fusion (see also a half-hearted and dishonest analysis of breakfornews) , Sonoluminescence and other exotic weaponry.
see also
http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/Jones-Kubiak.htm
Steven Jones, David Kubiak- The Los Alamos Connections
Jim Hoffman (Plagiarizer of the "'wtc 7 research' red herring" and himself a Planehugger reg. Pentagon, Shanksville and NYC)
His family received pre 9/11 STARWARS/Project Trailblazer contracts.
Hoffmans Uncle Jack Hoffman is married with June Armstrong.
Her brother Neil Armstrong ("NASA Moon Missions") received, among many other privatized Military- and Intelligence Contracors) ,
NSA - and NRO contracts for his company Veridian, close to LOCKHEED and RAYTHEON.
Other companies have been i.e. BoozAllen Hamilton (ex-CIA and PNAC James Woolsey) and BTG Inc.,
who worked on this project and officially got killed in that part of the Pentagon on 9/11, which got attacked.
This STARWARS/Project Trailblazer Research was well known and laid out in ewing2001-articles at globalfreepress during 2004, also at team8plus.org
then sabotaged by Mike Ruppert and others.
The 9/11 Truth Movement turned into a CULT a long time ago.
Also at the TOP:
The function of a "god" = David Ray Griffin
Griffin, influenced by new age spiritual kook Alfred North Whitehead, supports a so called "NEW WORLD ORDER" concept and a chinese pantheism cult, http://www.ctr4process.org/projects/china/china_eng.shtml
which is ironically a red herring to distract and blur the Transnational Concept of Globalist Fascists who wants to control the world with privatized Intelligence and Military.
They also obviously plan 'WW4/5' (according to Neocons Eliot Cohen, Norman Podhoretz and James Woolsey WW3 was already the "cold war" and ww4 started right after 9/11, see also 'Bird Flu': From psyOP and population control to "WW4") between U.S. (bogus war on terror, bogus concept Al-Quaida etc..), Russia (gangsterism, mafia, Radiation/Polonium 210- terrorism threataganda against aviation, China (Weaponized Bird Flu and other WMD).
This thesis is i.e. ignored by Alex Jones, LaRouche and Webster Tarpley.
David Ray Griffin to Angie d'Urso, January 2005 on his views on a "theological new world order":
http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/01-13-05/discussion.cgi.51.html
"...In finding the idea of global government of any sort dangerous, you are certainly endorsing the conventional view. But if you are interested, I would be happy to send you some writings in which I try to show why this conventional view needs to be rethought. Of course, I don’t know exactly why you find the very idea of global government creepy..."
God's bodyguards, let's call them DOGs are here:
1) Steven E. Jones, who represents the scientific and military arm of the movement.
2) HIS bodyguard is GeorgeWashington (*Masonic meme in his nickname) aka Attorney Alexander Floum (his law company represents ICANN, LosAlamos and DOE clients),
who bought and ran the domain of st911.org (9/11 Scholars) in 2005 and censors and controls
at 911blogger.com, itself infiltrated with trolls, US Intelligence Daisy Committees, hangouters,
false-hope patsies, flagwavers, Orwellians and other "helpful idiots", fighting the evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery and ExoticWeaponry. Among the most "prominent" ones: Casseia (allegedly girlfriend of "Somebigguy"), Jonathan "Hangout" Gold, John Albanese, stallion4 (ex-bluelemur), em7, NJcpaTOM (recently "banned" at Pilotsfor911Truth, a planehugger project), YT, johndoeX (-911PilotsforTruth), Dem Bruce Lee Styles, and some others, also often posting anonymously with double identities (Never Forget..., MatchCase etc..), see also Are NPT and Energy Weapons COINTELPRO disinfo? (12/04/2006 )
3) The $$-angle (money angle) and hangout angle: Alex Jones and LooseChange.
4) Some former or current spooks, also supported by wannabee spooks (CartoonLanguage):
Ray McGovern, David Shayler, Robert Steele (temporary attempt) and many others. (9/11 Truthlings however do appreciate end enjoy that Spooks and Military are running this "movement")!
The irony is that none of these Spooks clearly expressed yet, that 9/11 was an "InsideJob" or FalseFlag Operation or also "OutsideJob" at the same time as in using "INSIDE-JOB puppets and plumbers" to destroy the United States in the long run, to be replaced by an Eurasian Business Concept (Goldman Sachs, SCO, BRICs and others).....
more at
http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html
That post is like a bad soap opera. What a bunch of horse dung!
!
Anonymous (0) is a
Anonymous (0) is a shill
December 6, 2006
Video: David Lynch responds with Orwellian 9/11 Truthling "Bowman Drivel" after confronted with 9/11 Conspiracy and LooseChange
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2249
By ewing2001
picked up at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8175484657963455824
Video: David Lynch responds with Orwellian 9/11 Truthling "Bowman Drivel" after confronted with 9/11 Conspiracy and LooseChange
(911bloglines.com Editorial 12/06)
Lynch responds with a Henceish, Bowellian drivel, possibly also to promote
the PR campaign for Loose Change. Lynch appears to be the same doublespeak
Matrix Supporter like the Wacholski Brothers, David Cronenberg and the Orwellian Leadership of the 9/11 Truthling Movement.
Lynch talks about "seeing evth in a new light" and talks about pentagon first and then "pull it" which bothers him.
"Many questions, no answers...This is too big. This is someone, noone wants to think about...."
David Lynch speaks about 9/11
VPRO
6 min 57 sec - Dec 5, 2006
www.vpro.nl
see also
http://www.911blogger.com/node/4853
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8175484657963455824
UPDATES: http://www.bloglines
UPDATES:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2247
http://griffinthink.blogspot.com/
Stormfront Neonazi inspired by Jon Moseley Spam
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2246
BFN Audio: "CIA Fakes" Skip Town
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2245
Video FAQ: StarWars/Exotic Weaponry Producer Steven E Jones
By ewing2001
picked up at:
Added November 23, 2006
From xblackjesusx
Professor Steven Jones fends off spacebe Professor Steven Jones fends off spacebeamers at UC Berkeley November 11, 2006
(ed: see also:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2242
December 5, 2006
Wikipedia Entry about Steven "Los Alamos" Jones corrected and updated
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2215
Coffinman "9/11" Video: Steven Jones refuses to defendWTC planes
http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=6120684&itemid=2200
Professor Jones ignores crashphysics.blogspot letter
http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=6120684&itemid=2174
Video: Prof. Steven Jones' paper is not peer-reviewed
* Posted on: Wed, Dec 6 2006 12:33 AM
December 5, 2006
Wikipedia 9/11 Entry about Steven "Los Alamos" Jones corrected and updated
By ewing2001
picked up at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
December 05, 2006
* Posted on: Tue, Dec 5 2006 11:36 PM
911logic.blogspot: 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment II
By ewing2001
picked up at:
http://911logic.blogspot.com/
(check out also
Last posts
* 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment II: "Theresa Renault"
* 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment I: Rose Arce
* 9/11 CNN Pipeline: As (the media wants you to think) it Happened
* 9/11 TV-Fakery Whistleblower: Pinocchio Exposes Nose-Out Fairy Tale – Part II: The Cover-Up )
Tuesday, December 05, 2006
9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment II: "Theresa Renault"
Introduction - "Theresa Renault"
“Theresa Renault” was being interviewed by Bryant Gumbel on CBS at the time of the “second impact.” “Theresa” is explaining to Bryant that she both saw and heard the first explosion at WTC1, although she never actually saw any plane. My searches for Teresa/Theresa Renault in the downtown Manhattan area have come up empty, as the closest I’ve come is Theresa M. Renault, almost 90 miles away in New Paltz, NY.
Analysis – "Theresa Renault’s Eyewitness Account”
“Theresa” claims to have been inside her office at 8th Avenue and 16th Street in Chelsea. According to her, she works in “the tallest building in the area.” According to Google Earth, this places her inside the building at 111 8th Avenue.
This building has a fascinating history, to go along with its equally intriguing tenant list, which also now includes Google.
Almost as fascinating: once again we have a witness claiming to have heard a “very loud” explosion while indoors from over 2 miles away....
* Posted on: Tue, Dec 5 2006 9:39 PM
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2212
12/10 -4 PM EST: 911bloglines.com on blogtalkradio.com
By ewing2001
check out also 911bloglines.com for :
# John Albanese on his new "anti-StarWars" movie
# Coffinman "9/11" Video: Steven Jones refuses to defend WTC planes
# InfoshopNews/Counterpunch: The 9/11 Conspiracists and the Decline of the American Left
# 12/15: "Boston 9/11 Truth" presents Bob "2008" Bowman and John "Hangout" Albanese
# 12/10: Free NYC Screening of Hangout Doku 911 Press for Truth
# 9/11 Truthling Radio Check Roundup: Barrett, Jamieson, Heller, Berger etc...
# BFN: Was Steven Jones A 'CIA Mole' To Discredit Cold Fusion?
# Coffinman: How sound affects form
# 12/03: No call-in - Skypecast Interview with Planehugger David Hawkins
# 911blogger.com, truth911.net : COINTELPRO - Has 9/11 Truth been inflitrated?
# chrisbornag: 9/11stealth WTC FEMA TRIPOD Terror Drills Choppers were Used
# Threataganda: U.S. warns of Cyber Attack by Al Qaeda/"Al-Firdaws"
# 9/11- CGI-Animation Remake: Explosion at wrong side (11/29)
# Ed Haas/Muckracker with new hangout 9/11 prior knowledge "story"
# New 911Logic Blog: 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment I: Rose Arce
# Professor Jones ignores crashphysics.blogspot letter
# Red Herring or not? Pre 9/11 -"Option Market Activity"
# 12/03: SF "9/11 Truth" Meeting
# New WTC 6 Website speculates about "exotic weaponry"
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Roger Peters aka dz (911blogger.com) annouced fake peace and fake uncensorship
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2230
By ewing2001
UPDATE 12/06:
Roger Peters aka dz (911blogger.com) annouced fake peace and fake uncensorship
http://ewing2001.newsvine.com/_news/2006/12/06/470821-roger-peters-aka-d...
Peters continues to lie and using double swords:
Submitted by dz on Tue, 12/05/2006 - 9:48pm
"...no users have been banned in over a month, and if anyone were currently blocked and wanted that changed all they would have to do is email me...."
(ed: This is a lie, as seen below. Peters/FloumGeorgeWash are still blocking IP addresses and block anonymizers)
911blogger.com to change censorship rules again? (12/05)
picked up at:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/4829
Upcoming Site Changes and Downtime
Tue, 12/05/2006
(ed: 911bloglines.com thinks that Roger Peters aka dz aka dazinith should remove GeorgeWash aka Floum (st911) from 911blogger.com, if he wanna show real "honesty" and/or cooperation.
So far someone at 911b banned several members and censored blog entries and replies.
911bloglines.com is aware that 911b also banned several other IPs, at least 5 anonymizers
and also if someone is using particular anonymizers, they cannot post anonymous,
because the Image Recognition Field is blocked.
Also with some anonymizers, the hidden comments cannot be clicked into "unhidden".
That means as long as these secret tech "rules" do exist, the 'cyberwar' against 911blogger.com will continue and definetely also the re-infiltrations with the topics:
1) Orwellianisation of the 9/11 Truthling Movement
2) Exotic Weaponry on 9/11 and since then
3) 9/11 TV Fakery
If dz aka RP doesn't change these rules, it will be reported on our weekly radio podcast show, no matter if it gets recorded or not.
Submitted by dz on Tue, 12/05/2006 - 2:37am:
"...Just checking out my blog I see it has been about a month since the changes to blog entry submissions. I had not intended it to take as long as it has, nor did I intend for us to be in the position of approving/rejecting blog entries this long either. I am sure that we have pushed some buttons in playing this role, or for making people feel rejected, etc. - so to anyone who has had a blog entry not approved I would like to apologize. I have probably upset quite a large cross section of users across a gamut of reasons so again, I am sorry.
As I stated a little over a month ago it is my intention to put the blog moderation into the hands of the community, and not the team members of this site alone. Putting the moderators of this site into the process of blog submissions was unfortunately necessary given a number of shortcomings to the initial implementation. I'd like to say thank you to the majority of users who have given us the benefit of the doubt, and to those that didn't, well I'm sure I'll hear your complaints over the new system as well ;)
(ed: see also
9/11 Truthling Cult Watch: How Tom Weiss (UpfrontNews) is sabotaging/bandwagoning a coup d'etat concept at ny911truth
(see Addendum Weiss/Haupt Exchange 12/05 at http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html )
http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html
* Posted on: Wed, Dec 6 2006 8:33 AM
Let's put the facts as boldly and wide open on the table to analyse the current
situation between ny911truth.org, 911truth.org and the 9/11 "truth" movement itself.
"We're" doing this boldly because the purpose *IS* actually to indeed destabilize the top of this structure
or to confuse and weaken the self-appointed leadership of this 9/11 "truth" movement.
It is done to minimize their "limited hangout" manipulations, their abusive power and to make sure that the leadership will not be replaced by similar elements.
I consider the 9/11 Truth Movement as a CULT.
We're all currently 'victims' of this cult concept, among them honest and once respected 9/11 Researchers plus
former members of the 9/11 Science and Justice Alliance (2002-2006).
Fact is for me/us, that 911truth.org is manipulated with a cointel-pro concept.
Fact is also that URANTIA member Les Jamieson leads ny911truth.
Fact is also that STARWARS associates lead the "9/11 Truth Movement" (also called "untruth-" or DoubleSpeak Movement),
which we indentified as the so-called Orwellian 9/11 Truthlings or as expressed with another CartoonLanguage: 'STARWARS Axis of Evil':
1)
Robert Bowman (StarWars concept under Ronald Reagan),
who wants to create an Orwellian doublespeak-9/11 "Truth" party and recently "announced" to run
as a President in 2008.
His brainwashed Followers add constantly new "truthers" and hijacked the word "truth" now also
for absurde personalities like Dustin Hoffman or Scott Ritter.
see 911blogger.com
Steven E. Jones (former and/or current associate of Los Alamos and Department of Energy= DOE, who worked on exotic weaponry like
Cold Fusion (see also a half-hearted and dishonest analysis of breakfornews) , Sonoluminescence and other exotic weaponry.
see also
http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/Jones-Kubiak.htm
Steven Jones, David Kubiak- The Los Alamos Connections
Jim Hoffman (Plagiarizer of the "'wtc 7 research' red herring" and himself a Planehugger reg. Pentagon, Shanksville and NYC)
His family received pre 9/11 STARWARS/Project Trailblazer contracts.
Hoffmans Uncle Jack Hoffman is married with June Armstrong.
Her brother Neil Armstrong ("NASA Moon Missions") received, among many other privatized Military- and Intelligence Contracors) ,
NSA - and NRO contracts for his company Veridian, close to LOCKHEED and RAYTHEON.
Other companies have been i.e. BoozAllen Hamilton (ex-CIA and PNAC James Woolsey) and BTG Inc.,
who worked on this project and officially got killed in that part of the Pentagon on 9/11, which got attacked.
This STARWARS/Project Trailblazer Research was well known and laid out in ewing2001-articles at globalfreepress during 2004, also at team8plus.org
then sabotaged by Mike Ruppert and others.
The 9/11 Truth Movement turned into a CULT a long time ago.
Also at the TOP:
The function of a "god" = David Ray Griffin
Griffin, influenced by new age spiritual kook Alfred North Whitehead, supports a so called "NEW WORLD ORDER" concept and a chinese pantheism cult, http://www.ctr4process.org/projects/china/china_eng.shtml
which is ironically a red herring to distract and blur the Transnational Concept of Globalist Fascists who wants to control the world with privatized Intelligence and Military.
They also obviously plan 'WW4/5' (according to Neocons Eliot Cohen, Norman Podhoretz and James Woolsey WW3 was already the "cold war" and ww4 started right after 9/11, see also 'Bird Flu': From psyOP and population control to "WW4") between U.S. (bogus war on terror, bogus concept Al-Quaida etc..), Russia (gangsterism, mafia, Radiation/Polonium 210- terrorism threataganda against aviation, China (Weaponized Bird Flu and other WMD).
This thesis is i.e. ignored by Alex Jones, LaRouche and Webster Tarpley.
David Ray Griffin to Angie d'Urso, January 2005 on his views on a "theological new world order":
http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/01-13-05/discussion.cgi.51.html
"...In finding the idea of global government of any sort dangerous, you are certainly endorsing the conventional view. But if you are interested, I would be happy to send you some writings in which I try to show why this conventional view needs to be rethought. Of course, I don’t know exactly why you find the very idea of global government creepy..."
God's bodyguards, let's call them DOGs are here:
1) Steven E. Jones, who represents the scientific and military arm of the movement.
2) HIS bodyguard is GeorgeWashington (*Masonic meme in his nickname) aka Attorney Alexander Floum (his law company represents ICANN, LosAlamos and DOE clients),
who bought and ran the domain of st911.org (9/11 Scholars) in 2005 and censors and controls
at 911blogger.com, itself infiltrated with trolls, US Intelligence Daisy Committees, hangouters,
false-hope patsies, flagwavers, Orwellians and other "helpful idiots", fighting the evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery and ExoticWeaponry. Among the most "prominent" ones: Casseia (allegedly girlfriend of "Somebigguy"), Jonathan "Hangout" Gold, John Albanese, stallion4 (ex-bluelemur), em7, NJcpaTOM (recently "banned" at Pilotsfor911Truth, a planehugger project), YT, johndoeX (-911PilotsforTruth), Dem Bruce Lee Styles, and some others, also often posting anonymously with double identities (Never Forget..., MatchCase etc..), see also Are NPT and Energy Weapons COINTELPRO disinfo? (12/04/2006 )
3) The $$-angle (money angle) and hangout angle: Alex Jones and LooseChange.
4) Some former or current spooks, also supported by wannabee spooks (CartoonLanguage):
Ray McGovern, David Shayler, Robert Steele (temporary attempt) and many others. (9/11 Truthlings however do appreciate end enjoy that Spooks and Military are running this "movement")!
The irony is that none of these Spooks clearly expressed yet, that 9/11 was an "InsideJob" or FalseFlag Operation or also "OutsideJob" at the same time as in using "INSIDE-JOB puppets and plumbers" to destroy the United States in the long run, to be replaced by an Eurasian Business Concept (Goldman Sachs, SCO, BRICs and others).....
more at
http://911closeup.com/nico/911truthling1204.html
Submitted by Anonym Mousse (not verified) on Wed, 12/06/2006 - 11:04am.
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That post is like a bad soap opera. What a bunch of horse dung!
!
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December 6, 2006
Video: David Lynch responds with Orwellian 9/11 Truthling "Bowman Drivel" after confronted with 9/11 Conspiracy and LooseChange
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2249
By ewing2001
picked up at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8175484657963455824
Video: David Lynch responds with Orwellian 9/11 Truthling "Bowman Drivel" after confronted with 9/11 Conspiracy and LooseChange
(911bloglines.com Editorial 12/06)
Lynch responds with a Henceish, Bowellian drivel, possibly also to promote
the PR campaign for Loose Change. Lynch appears to be the same doublespeak
Matrix Supporter like the Wacholski Brothers, David Cronenberg and the Orwellian Leadership of the 9/11 Truthling Movement.
Lynch talks about "seeing evth in a new light" and talks about pentagon first and then "pull it" which bothers him.
"Many questions, no answers...This is too big. This is someone, noone wants to think about...."
David Lynch speaks about 9/11
VPRO
6 min 57 sec - Dec 5, 2006
www.vpro.nl
see also
http://www.911blogger.com/node/4853
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8175484657963455824
Submitted by Anonym Mousse (not verified) on Wed, 12/06/2006 - 11:19am.
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UPDATES: http://www.bloglines
UPDATES:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2247
http://griffinthink.blogspot.com/
Stormfront Neonazi inspired by Jon Moseley Spam
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2246
BFN Audio: "CIA Fakes" Skip Town
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2245
Video FAQ: StarWars/Exotic Weaponry Producer Steven E Jones
By ewing2001
picked up at:
Added November 23, 2006
From xblackjesusx
Professor Steven Jones fends off spacebe Professor Steven Jones fends off spacebeamers at UC Berkeley November 11, 2006
(ed: see also:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2242
December 5, 2006
Wikipedia Entry about Steven "Los Alamos" Jones corrected and updated
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2215
Coffinman "9/11" Video: Steven Jones refuses to defendWTC planes
http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=6120684&itemid=2200
Professor Jones ignores crashphysics.blogspot letter
http://www.bloglines.com/preview?siteid=6120684&itemid=2174
Video: Prof. Steven Jones' paper is not peer-reviewed
* Posted on: Wed, Dec 6 2006 12:33 AM
December 5, 2006
Wikipedia 9/11 Entry about Steven "Los Alamos" Jones corrected and updated
By ewing2001
picked up at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
December 05, 2006
* Posted on: Tue, Dec 5 2006 11:36 PM
911logic.blogspot: 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment II
By ewing2001
picked up at:
http://911logic.blogspot.com/
(check out also
Last posts
* 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment II: "Theresa Renault"
* 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment I: Rose Arce
* 9/11 CNN Pipeline: As (the media wants you to think) it Happened
* 9/11 TV-Fakery Whistleblower: Pinocchio Exposes Nose-Out Fairy Tale – Part II: The Cover-Up )
Tuesday, December 05, 2006
9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment II: "Theresa Renault"
Introduction - "Theresa Renault"
“Theresa Renault” was being interviewed by Bryant Gumbel on CBS at the time of the “second impact.” “Theresa” is explaining to Bryant that she both saw and heard the first explosion at WTC1, although she never actually saw any plane. My searches for Teresa/Theresa Renault in the downtown Manhattan area have come up empty, as the closest I’ve come is Theresa M. Renault, almost 90 miles away in New Paltz, NY.
Analysis – "Theresa Renault’s Eyewitness Account”
“Theresa” claims to have been inside her office at 8th Avenue and 16th Street in Chelsea. According to her, she works in “the tallest building in the area.” According to Google Earth, this places her inside the building at 111 8th Avenue.
This building has a fascinating history, to go along with its equally intriguing tenant list, which also now includes Google.
Almost as fascinating: once again we have a witness claiming to have heard a “very loud” explosion while indoors from over 2 miles away....
* Posted on: Tue, Dec 5 2006 9:39 PM
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2212
12/10 -4 PM EST: 911bloglines.com on blogtalkradio.com
By ewing2001
check out also 911bloglines.com for :
# John Albanese on his new "anti-StarWars" movie
# Coffinman "9/11" Video: Steven Jones refuses to defend WTC planes
# InfoshopNews/Counterpunch: The 9/11 Conspiracists and the Decline of the American Left
# 12/15: "Boston 9/11 Truth" presents Bob "2008" Bowman and John "Hangout" Albanese
# 12/10: Free NYC Screening of Hangout Doku 911 Press for Truth
# 9/11 Truthling Radio Check Roundup: Barrett, Jamieson, Heller, Berger etc...
# BFN: Was Steven Jones A 'CIA Mole' To Discredit Cold Fusion?
# Coffinman: How sound affects form
# 12/03: No call-in - Skypecast Interview with Planehugger David Hawkins
# 911blogger.com, truth911.net : COINTELPRO - Has 9/11 Truth been inflitrated?
# chrisbornag: 9/11stealth WTC FEMA TRIPOD Terror Drills Choppers were Used
# Threataganda: U.S. warns of Cyber Attack by Al Qaeda/"Al-Firdaws"
# 9/11- CGI-Animation Remake: Explosion at wrong side (11/29)
# Ed Haas/Muckracker with new hangout 9/11 prior knowledge "story"
# New 911Logic Blog: 9/11 Eyewitness Report Cards, Installment I: Rose Arce
# Professor Jones ignores crashphysics.blogspot letter
# Red Herring or not? Pre 9/11 -"Option Market Activity"
# 12/03: SF "9/11 Truth" Meeting
# New WTC 6 Website speculates about "exotic weaponry"
Submitted by Anonym Mousse (not verified) on Wed, 12/06/2006 - 11:24am.
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7:37 AM
Delete
talk about cult of
talk about cult of personality... thing reads like a fatwa! Yikes!
Intimidation of administrators of a blog sure falls into the realm of bullying, thats outrageous.
Let it go...
And do what you can to take this country back.
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
Jon, I am holding on to
Jon, I am holding on to nothing... just making a comment - on the content of the post.
I know...
"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."
Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member
Let's play the Jon Gold game of vote deception.
Jon Gold's deception
I checked it out, and its too plain-dumb to believe
Someone who takes seriously something as obviously fictional as that, I either don't trust, or I pity. Any malcious moron can make up a story and then pass it on to the FBI. "Wow, photocopied documents - it must be true!"
What did you find out?
We've heard your opinion several times and I'd honestly be interested in any objective information you dug up.
I wrote to the pilot -regarding 3rd plane seemingly in the area
I am interested in the photos you have taken from the
air on September 11, 2001 from your Cessna.
You photographed the North Tower before the second
aircraft struck the South Tower, while you were flying
in the Hudson VFR corridor between NJ and NY over the
water.
Recently, there has been discussion regarding a
passenger sized aircraft which was captured on video,
and apparently flying in the same general area as your
aircraft, although perhaps off to your right (as your
photographs indicate).
My question is: Did you see any other aircraft in the
area, except for the helicopters you have described in
your account?
I may have some follow-up questions and I look forward
to hearing from you.
I have attached a photo of the passenger sized aircraft
for your reference.
Thank you,
[FeO]
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From: Yury Faktorovich [Cessna pilot]
Date: 5 Jul 09:31 (EDT)
To: [FeO]
Subject: Re: September 11 photos
[FeO],
What I can tell from the attached picture, it's that it was taken with a telephoto lens, and such lenses compress distance not only in the foreground, but in the background also. That aircraft is likely miles and miles away behind the tower, it's just that due to telephot lens feature it has been brought up close.
Also, I vividly remember that day, there were no other aircraft in the area at the time, other than me and a bunch of news or police helicopters.
Best regards
Yury Faktorovich
Pilot of a rented Cessna 172SP on September 11, 2001