The Nation: "The Roots of (9/11) Paranoia"

Here's what I don't understand. It's bad enough that they are clearly not advocates of 9/11 Truth... but why do gatekeeper on the left feel the need to attack the 9/11 Truth Movement? Why not just shut-up about it? What do they possibly hope to gain by going after us? Especially considering that we ARE RIGHT... and they are soooo very WRONG.

Christopher Hayes has penned the latest worthless hit-piece on the 9/11 Truth Movement. For some reason, The Nation has chosen to actually publish it. The article, entitled "9/11: The Roots of Paranoia" is poorly written. It is poorly researched. It is highly opinionated. It is logically inconsistent. In a word... it is WEAK. Why the Nation continues to tempt fate by lending credibility to these "conspiracy deniers" is beyond me.

Mr. Hayes even acknowledges that "one-third of Americans think the government either carried out the 9/11 attacks or intentionally allowed them to happen." I have no doubt that the number is much larger, but let's just say it's only one-third. Clearly the majority of this group are going to be "progressive" thinkers. These are the people most likely to actually read "the Nation". Why risk alienating up to a 1/3 or more of your core readers? It just doesn't make any sense! I for one feel thoroughly alienated by the Nation. Quite frankly they sicken me.

Here's a sample of the article. Try not to vomit:

"The Reichstag example holds a lesson for those who would dismiss the very notion of a conspiracy as necessarily absurd. It was perfectly reasonable to suspect the Nazis of setting the fire, so long as the evidence suggested that might have been the case. The problem isn't with conspiracy theories as such; the problem is continuing to assert the existence of a conspiracy even after the evidence shows it to be virtually impossible." [end sample]

You see what I mean? Here they actually try to deny being conspiracy deniers. Rather they say the evidence has shown that a 9/11 conspiracy is "virtually impossible". Enter "Popular Mechanics" stage left to proove this rather bold contention. Why you ask don't they use the "offcial" report to prove their contention? Well, because he goes on to actually admit that the 9/11 "commission report was something of a whitewash". Huh!?!?

Come on Mr. Hayes... you cannot have it both ways. Why the HELL would the government feel the need to publish a whitewash account of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil, while leaving it to "Popular Mechanics" to publish the definitive thesis which purportedly provides evidence showing any conspiracy to be "virtually impossible"? It doesn't even make any sense!

Mr. Hayes even goes on to acknowledge that "for six years, the government has prevaricated and the press has largely failed to point out [the] simple truth". But just when you think you cannot stand any more, get a load of his final paragraph:

"the public must come to trust that the gatekeepers of public discourse share their skepticism about the agenda its government is pursuing. The antidote, ultimately, to the Truth Movement is a press that refuses to allow the government to continue to lie."

While acknowleging that they (the Nation) are indeed "GATEKEEPERS of public discourse", they assert that this is okay because they (presumably the Nation) "refuse to allow the government to continue to lie".

I don't know where to start? Bush has proven himself to be nothing but a liar. Most recently he acknowledged as much when he admitted lying about replacing Rumsfeld. Where is the outrage from the Nation about this blatant lie? Why is the Nation devoting more valuable space coming after the Truth Movement?

Of course there is no mention of Stephen Jones, Thermate, WTC7, lack of pentagon plane parts, squibs, free fall collapses, etc. etc. etc. But then again... they ARE the "gatekeepers of public discourse". Why would there be?

Where do they get these guys?

Hayes says "physical minutiae." Like three towers falling at near free fall speeds?

And notice how a so-called "progressive" takes Popular Mechanics as an inherently more credible source.

He says: "To avoid such a fate, the public must come to trust that the gatekeepers of public discourse share their skepticism about the agenda its government is pursuing. The antidote, ultimately, to the Truth Movement is a press that refuses to allow the government to continue to lie."

Sounds like he's worried about the increasing irrelevance of rags like the Nation. Anybody can publish their opinions now, Mr. Hayes, and have them judged on the merits. The Nation is just another website. The barbarians have breached the gates, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Part of me says just ignore this.

Yep, just another website

Yep, just another website with a lot of $. But trash nonetheless. Expensive trash.

actually more than a

actually more than a website, a very influential, maybe the most influential mainstream "liberal" magazine in print. and yes they are complete trash(though Altermans column on the media is pretty good) and thoroughly compromised.(remember they had a "retired" CIA agent review Griffins book? what a joke.)

Hmmmm...

That article was bizzare and full of circular logic. It made my brain hurt trying to figure out how this guy comes to his conclusions. Maybe its because it is late and I am tired. Nah....He's a putz. :p

---From a decon @ my church: "I want to tell you something very serious..very serious, but I don't want you to say 'I told you so'. I want you to forgive me..You were right. I know the truth about 9/11.

My pissed-off letter to "The Nation"

To the editorial staff of "The Nation":

Here's what I don't understand. It's bad enough that you are clearly not advocates of 9/11 Truth... but why do self-professed gatekeepers (like the Nation) on the left feel the need to attack the 9/11 Truth Movement? Why not just shut-up about it? What do you possibly hope to gain by going after us? Especially considering that we ARE RIGHT... and you are soooo very WRONG.

The article, by Christopher Hayes entitled "9/11: The Roots of Paranoia" is poorly written, poorly researched, highly opinionated and is replete with circular logic. In a word... it is WEAK. Why the Nation continues to tempt fate by lending credibility to these "conspiracy deniers" is beyond me.

Mr. Hayes even acknowledges that "one-third of Americans think the government either carried out the 9/11 attacks or intentionally allowed them to happen." I have no doubt that the number is much larger, but let's just say it's only one-third. Clearly the majority of this group are going to be so-called "progressive thinkers". These are the people most likely to actually read "the Nation". Why risk alienating up to a 1/3 or more of your core readers? It just doesn't make any sense! I for one feel thoroughly alienated by the Nation. Quite frankly, given the importance of this topic, you sicken me!

Here's a snippet from the article that I find particularly detestable:

"The Reichstag example holds a lesson for those who would dismiss the very notion of a conspiracy as necessarily absurd. It was perfectly reasonable to suspect the Nazis of setting the fire, so long as the evidence suggested that might have been the case. The problem isn't with conspiracy theories as such; the problem is continuing to assert the existence of a conspiracy even after the evidence shows it to be virtually impossible." [end]

Here Mr. Hayes actually attempts to deny being a "conspiracy denier". Rather he says the evidence has shown that a 9/11 conspiracy is "virtually impossible". Enter "Popular Mechanics" stage left to proove his extremely bold (and reckless) assertion of fact. It's important to note that Mr. Hayes does not rely on the "official" 9/11 commission report to prove his assertion; rather, he goes on to claim that the 9/11 "commission report was something of a whitewash". Huh!?!?

Come on Mr. Hayes... you cannot have it both ways. Why the HELL would the government feel the need to publish a whitewash account of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil, while leaving it to "Popular Mechanics" to publish the definitive thesis which purportedly provides evidence showing any conspiracy to be "virtually impossible"? It doesn't even make any sense!

Mr. Hayes then goes on to acknowledge that "for six years, the government has prevaricated and the press has largely failed to point out [the] simple truth". But just when you think you cannot stand any more, get a load of his final paragraph:

"the public must come to trust that the gatekeepers of public discourse share their skepticism about the agenda its government is pursuing. The antidote, ultimately, to the Truth Movement is a press that refuses to allow the government to continue to lie."

While acknowleging that you (the Nation) are indeed "GATEKEEPERS of public discourse", he asserts that this is okay because you (presumably the Nation) "refuse[s] to allow the government to continue to lie".

I don't know where to start? Bush has proven himself to be nothing but a liar. Most recently he acknowledged as much when he admitted lying about replacing Rumsfeld. Where is the outrage from the Nation about this blatant lie? Why is the Nation devoting more valuable space targeting the Truth Movement?

Of course there is no mention in Mr. Hayes' article of Stephen Jones, Thermate, WTC7, lack of pentagon plane parts, squibs, free fall collapses, etc. etc. etc. But then again... you ARE the "gatekeepers of public discourse". Therefore, you determine what is proper to discuss.

The reality is that you people are a DISGRACE to "the Nation" and you should be ashamed of yourselves! One day soon, your hypocrisy will be laid bare for all the world to see. May God have mercy on your souls!

Please publish this!

Chris Rose

who do they think they're fooling??

It's funny to read stuff like this that most people I know would laugh at--not hard core truthers just people who know that no matter where the truth ultimately lies, the tone of this article "gosh what loonies to think we, the gatekeepers, are conspiring" is unwarranted and, to use a word that one has to invoke frequently these days, disingenuous.

Like we don't know you bastards lie every single day? I love that the antidote to the truth is the media, how true that is!

Since the media will never cover 9/11 Truth (since they know that any debates they cause to begin will not end well for them, we can assume the writer of this essay is conceding defeat--the truth WILL come out, with or without the media.

It's funny to watch the whole system implode like this--"wait wait! listen to US! we're FINALLY telling the truth! REALLY this time! honest! hello? Uhhh..."

Put this guys name on the list of those who will be doing time for accesorizing after the fact... :) What's that shill? You were deceived? You researched this article and simply came to the wrong conclusion? Tell it to the jury, which will hopefully include some firefighters, and get ready to rot in jail.

You chose... poorly.

____

Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

"You chose... poorly."

"You chose... poorly." LOL

"Like we don't know you bastards lie every single day? I love that the antidote to the truth is the media, how true that is!" Yeah, establishment media don't count, though!

I sent this to Mt Hayes.

christopherlhayes@gmail.com

Dear Sir,

I am in a rabit hole and I can not get out, the facts keep hitting me in the head and keep me inside. You see, Chris, it is so much easier to write an article like yours that takes a main stream OPINION and minimizes a minority viewpoint, there is no need to dig for relevant facts or to support your work or look for consensus from other opinions pieces. You write your LITTLE article and collect your $200. People like you NEVER address the very idea that our Government does have people in it that use Counter Gang Tactics, You should read about it, it is an old British Technique called "Low Intensity Operations"

It is well documented in the CIA/Nato Armies left behind Western Europe after WW 2. (OPERATION GLADIO).

There is also a clear willingness of our Government to entertain such tactics documented in the recently de-classified OPERATIONS NORTHWOODS. It documented a Military Operation that would create public support for a Cuban Invasion by Hi-Jacking Planes, Blowing Up Buses, basically the willingness to KILL AMERICANS. This is all over CNN haven't you seen it? Ha Ha...

When do you propose our Government saw the evil of its' way and changed tactics, perhaps it was the relative failure after the Vietnam War, or the Sinking of the USS Liberty during the 7 Day War, maybe it was the COG initiative started by the Neo-Cons during the Iran Contra Affair, I'm sure the Government we have today wouldn't use these well proven (however despicable) tactics to drum up polical support to go to War, After all, there is no evidence to support the Adminastration would do such a thing, RIGHT?

You see the Problem with people like you (no offense) is that you are gettig paid by the very same people who want to control the same corrupt system, so "THEY" will not allow you to suggest that the very system is corrupt and needs a full labotamy. Right, Left and Center.

Here are some additional facts for you:
1. Heat within the Towers was NEVER Hot enough to even weaken the Steel Uniformally, do you KNOW anything about Thermo-dynamics (AKA Heat Transfer), Steel is a VERY good conductor of Heat, there are pictures on the WEB that SHOW people standing in the very holes the airplanes made, were these people standing in 800 degree tempertaures? THE ANSER IS NO.

2. On the 78th Floor there is a recording of a Fireman saying there are 2 Small pockets of Fire that can be easily put out, Hard to belive if Steel Temperatures were reaching 800-900 degrees. I guess the firemen were Conspiracy Nuts..

3. Can you explain the Molten Metal documented in The FEMA report Appendix C. Fires do not produce Molten Metal.. check this out
1. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2991254740145858863
I would like to get out of the Rabit Hole you so Brilliantly illustrated in your piece, but there is NO proof that the Official Conspiracy theory is true and there is No "Official" proof the many alternate theories out there are true. So what do we do, .....I write my congress people and ask for a new and truly transparent investigation, I guess you chose to take a position based on NO FACTS and a trust you have in your government, I guess it pays the bills?

CBS "News"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/08/opinion/main2242387.shtml



"I think that we have to look at these alternative groups and these alternative people who are continuing to make films and bring their research to the public."

Sally Regenhard - 9/11 Family Member