9-11 Truth on New Zealand's Mainstream TV

This was on last night, looks like we missed it. Scroll to the bottom of this post for a couple of screenshots from the TV listings. Click on them for full size, each of them are about one and a half MB in size. Thanks to Joseph for sending these in:


One of the best documentaries for waking people up to 9/11 truth, ‘9/11: In Plane Site –The Director’s Cut,’ is scheduled to air on TV3 on Saturday the 16th of December at 10.30pm. It is long overdue.

Called “9/11: In Plane Site” because the evidence to prove that 9/11 was the work of criminal elements inside the US government is in ‘plain sight’, this enlightening film, hosted by Dave vonKleist, was shown on mainstream TV in Australia on Channel 10 on January 5th this year. According to the filmmakers’ website, thepowerhour.com, it elicited more responses from the public than anything else the station has aired in recent history.

In February, Uncensored Magazine asked TVNZ why the New Zealand public was not being shown the truth and TVNZ used, amongst other slippery devices, the findings of the 9/11 Commission Report to defend its right to lie to the public. As those who have done even cursory research will know, this report is such a morass of omissions and distortions, it confirms that the official story is a lie, (refer st911.org).

The crimes of 9/11 would not have been committed if the mainstream media had not been complicit. This film provides insights into why the media has lied so diligently.

Tell all your friends and family to watch this on Saturday - everyone deserves to know the truth.


In Plane Sight?

Of all the potential videos to show, this had amoung the worst possible picks. Its good to see material on the air to get people researching and thinking but I wish it had been something that didn't have "pods" and the like.

9/11 widow in bitter burial dispute

SAN JOSE, CALIF. — After Sandra Dahl's husband died on Sept. 11, 2001, she had their names inscribed together on his gravestone. Capt. Jason Dahl was the pilot of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field during an aborted hijacking. His widow planned that when her day came, she would join him in spirit and on finely etched granite. But the tragedy of Jason Dahl's death — an event remembered with honor across the land — has fallen into a bitter family feud over his remains.



However, Jason Dahl is not listed in the Social Security Death Index!

The truth is more important than the facts.-Frank Lloyd Wright

Besides, I don't think any conspiracy theory has been proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt by a thorough investigation and interviews of key players under oath. Until that happens I'm going to keep an open mind.

Ignore "In Plane Sight"

Yes, if you're new here, please ignore In Plane Sight.

Check out:

9/11: Press for Truth

Improbable Collapse

9/11 Mysteries

They should be easy to find on Google Video.

Where is your proof "In Plane Sight" is wrong?

Why should I steer away from "In Plane Sight"? Have you seen classified documents like Popular Mechanic's guy Davin Couburn?

Reporters privey to classified info??? Explain


We have not seen classified documents..... so why has Davin Couburn?

So, we are not allowed to see these documents but journalists for a magazine are allowed?

No. We have not seen the documents.... but I'm guessing that if we were given the opportunity this whole thing would end.... we would get to the bottom of this whole thing.... and finally agree or disagree with the findings on the 9/11 Commission.

So.... let's see all that they have classified for whatever reason.

Or should we just take the word of your guy? who was privey to classified information for some reason.

How bout this.... throw us one bone. Release Siebel Edmonds from her gag order.... Let her tell her story

How bout that???????????????????????????

"Have you seen classified

"Have you seen classified documents like Popular Mechanic's guy Davin Couburn?"

Is this the same Davin that got his arse handed to him by Charles Goyette?


That was good. Oh, and get a name.


Show "Reminder for 9/11 Truth Kiddies" by Anonymous (not verified)

#1 - WTC7   end of

#1 - WTC7


end of arguement 

The government does not support gravitational collapse

Please utilize this checklist of quotations from the NIST and FEMA reports on the WTC collapses. I have copied these examples from Improbable Collapse, which I recommend.

Remind OCTs that the official studies of the collapses were underfunded, inadequate in every way, and ultimately inconclusive:

"With the information and time available, the sequence of events leading to the collapse each tower could not be definitively determined." – FEMA BEPAT, Executive Summary, p.2

Remind OCTs that the airplane impacts did not topple WTC 1 and 2, and that the official theory is essentially based on the claim that fire brought down steel-reinforced skyscrapers for the first time in history:

"The towers likely would not have collapsed under the combined effects of aircraft impact damage and the extensive, multi-floor fires if the thermal insulation had not been widely dislodged or had been only minimally dislodged by aircraft impact." – NIST, p. xxxviii

Remind OCTs that the fires did not burn hot enough to melt or deform steel, and that NIST could not replicate the collapse of the steel when it burned models for over 2 hours:

"None of the recovered steel samples showed evidence of exposure to temperatures above 600 degrees C for as long as 15 minutes." – NIST, p. 180

"Only three of the recovered samples of exterior panels reached temperatures in excess of 250 degrees C during the fires or after the collapse. This was based on a method developed by NIST to characterize maximum temperatures experienced by steel members through observations of paint cracking." – NIST, p. 181

"All four test specimens sustained the maximum design load for approximately 2 hours without collapsing…" – NIST, p. 143

Remind OCTs that the towers were built with redundancies capable of withstanding much more than an airplane crash and brief and moderate fire:

"The results established that this type of assembly was capable of sustaining a large gravity load, without collapsing, for a substantial period of time relative to the duration of the fires in any given location on September 11." – NIST, p. 143

Remind OCTs that the experiments of Dr. Steven Jones addressed a very specific and identified need, according to the FEMA report itself:

"The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown. It is possible that this is the result of long-term heating in the ground following the collapse of the buildings. It is also possible that the phenomenon started prior to collapse and accelerated the weakening of the steel structure. A detailed study into the mechanisms of this phenomenon is needed to determine what risk, if any, is presented to existing steel structures exposed to severe and long-burning fires." – FEMA, C-13, Appendix C.6

Remind OCTs that FEMA itself characterized its theory that fire caused WTC7 to collapse as having a "low probability of occurrence," strong words for a scientific report.

Finally, remind OCTs that the official explanation of why the towers collapsed does not explain what happened after collapse initiation. There is no official explanation of why the towers fell as they did:

"The focus of the investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the 'probably collapse sequence,' although it does not actually include the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable." – NIST, p. 82

Show "Too bad you never read the NIST report" by Anonymous (not verified)

Hat trusses

LOL... they said it all

I'm wondering how they got the lower structure to stay up when they were building the towers untilll they got those essential hat trusses in place?

I have more questions every day

Already refuted the Blanchard piece; next?

"Remember, the 9/11 Truth Movement cannot refute this"

Sorry, but it already has.


Show "You are really off the wall." by Anonymous (not verified)

Back to this

Molten metal

MONTHS after the collapse..... Continually sprayed with water..... still MOLTEN MONTHS later.

THERMITE is a reaction unfettered by water.... Thermite is used to ewld and cut steel under water!

WHO controlled all aspects of the evidence? the investigation and tthe removal.

I oftne wonder why I even respond to you.

There isn't anything that anyone could tell you to change your mind.

Proof of foreknowledge... proof of lies, proof of omissions from the offical report, scientific and visual proof, nothing.....

so go away.... be happy knowing that in your convoluted universe... you know your reality..... dwelling on that one day you shook George's hand.... just hope it wasn't the day that he just got done playing the Gannon Flute

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TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE is such a terrible burdon.

Please don't feel sorry for me

Thanks to you I still have LAUGHTER

and lets be perfectly clear...... I'm not laughing with you

I'm laughing AT you!

so this guy was just joking right.....

Buy a clue...

Secondary Device

Now you just have to prove what that means

I have an Idea and would like to ask you if this is possible ...

I have an Idea and would like to ask you if this is possible ...

Is it possible that if 9.11.2001 was an Inside-Job of US-Betrayers that those Betrayers had planned to crash another Plain into WTC 7 but this Plan didnt worked so they just Bombed it down without any Plain-Crash ?

Could the Machine who came down reach New York and was probably planned to hit WTC 7 ?

If 9.11.2001 was an Inside-Job of US-Nation-Betrayers ... Shouldnt the Persons who have killed almost 3000 US-Citizen and more than Hundreds of Thousands Innocennts in Afghanistan and Irak be punished for this unhuman-like Crime !?!

Why nothing happens in the US ? Why does those Mass-Murders dont have to Answer in front of Judges ?

Is the US-Nation so weak that they cant do anything against Murder of US-Citizens ?


It's the people. We have been made complacent... fat and happy.... they have taken great strides to take us out of their political process.... we have lost the knowledge that we need to keep track of their doings.

They have been stealing from us for so long... our will and our knowledge... many people ask "what can we do about it?"

As far as many people believe.... that unless it is knocking on their front door then there is nothing that needs to be done....

It saddens me to no end.... because if the people do nothing to combat this then they will continue to think they can get away with this.... and this effects the world.

If the American people refuse to do anything about this... nobody else will be able to...... other governments are not going to step up.... because they are all in on it as well.... they all use this "False Flag Terrorism" to fit their political means.... they are all vested in America.

I think that the people in the know are having an effect of keeping them from trying another event.... but I really don't know how long this will last.

The knowledge of 9/11 is still working it's way to people.... the knowledge is there but people don't know what to do with it.... knowing is half the battle.... but people are afraid of our government and what they are willing to do to those who rise up..... People simply want to bury their heads and go on about their business.

I was driving home from St. Louis yesterday, thinking about what it would take for people to simply stand in solidarity against this.... to simply stand in unison and be seen by our government and the world

this will not require violent uprising.... but simply an uprising.

People to stand up for all that is right and good.

one time.... everyone.... turn of the TV and move yourselves for something that matters

9/11 matters..... The TRUTH matters

probably not

Unlike the twin towers, WTC7 wasn't a well-known building outside of NYC, and would have been hard to pass off as a plausible "terrorist target" worth crashing a plane into.

More likely #7 was intended to come down immediately after the North Tower (WTC1... dust from which would have helped to cover up the obvious/classical demolition of 7, and they could have passed it off as having collapsed from seismic shock, debris impact, etc), but something went wrong, and charges in 7 didn't go off on schedule. If I remember the timelines correctly, WTC7 was evacuated soon after the South Tower came down at 9:59, consistent with Giuliani & Co. expecting its imminent demise.

Flight 93 could have been a backup plane, kept in the air only until each primary target had been hit... or perhaps was meant for the White House (as per Official CT) or Capitol building (more likely-- killing a lot of Congresspeople would have been a great pretext for suspending normal govt.), but its delayed takeoff threw off the timeline too much, and it had to be shot down? All speculation, of course... hopefully a proper investigation will get to the bottom of such questions.