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Confirmed: Kevin Barrett To Be On The O'Reilly Factor Tonight - 8PM EST

I just received word from Kevin that he is definitely going to be on tonight. For those that don't know, the O'Reilly Factor starts at 8pm EST.

I hope those that have the ability to record, will do so.

Good luck to Kevin, do us proud . . .

you can expect fireworks

O'Reilly has been referring to him as "nutty Barrett" for awhile now, and if his interview with Fetzer is any indication we should expect this to be a pretty mean spirited debate.

O'Reilly referred to Fetzer as "a loon," "crazy" "a disgrace" and "a traitor" during that interview.

I just hope that Barrett goes into this interview prepared to hit back - hard - on behalf of all the victims and victim's families who are demanding accountability.

Hey...

I hope you give a report as to how things went in Boston.


The Time For Debate Is Over

yes

i am waiting for a little free time to process the video of my presentation - so i can post it along with my report.

This was probably the most rewarding event i've participated in - including the premier of my own film in Tribeca during the Tribeca Film Festival. people were wildly enthusiastic and appreciative - and i felt that the quality of the overall MESSAGE was one of the most mature and balanced i've seen in this movement - comparable to the work they are doing out in san francisco. i felt they hit all the right chords. they kept the focus on 'accountability' and 'action' without descending into a conspiracy theory oriented presentation.

i was also impressed with the people themselves. to be honest i was expecting a younger group of organizers. instead i was greeted by what appeared to be very progressive older members of the new england liberal community - some with histories that appeared to date back to the anti-war movements of the 1960s. very promising.

they all appeared very intelligent and reflective, without one tin-foil-hat to be found in the group.

i joked with one activist that i wanted to move to Boston, because i was extremely proud of the work they were doing there.

it appears that this movement is igniting in the New England area - cropping up all over - and with very good solid activist roots.

my wife and i were stunned by the reaction my film received - and by the reaction my speech received. it was probably the most emotional i've been at any 9/11 event i've attended. it all took me by surprise.

i will definitely carve out some time to get the video posted by the end of this week. my only reget is that i did not capture the standing ovation at the end of my film on video. people were cheering and screaming - but i didn't get the camera turned on. maybe someone else who video taped the event will post it.

Bravo

I can not wait to give you a standing ovation.... looking forward to your film.

That's really cool man.

What if Barrett..

Just fired back with "Well Bill you're an ignorant jerk, why don't you stick to dildo's and attempts at phone sex with women half your age!"

Of course O'reilly would say "see, typical response" and probably kick him off the show. Somehow he gets away with the bullying and namecalling with his audience!

Beamer & Bingham 9/11 script errors

Here are more 9/11 script errors: The first article says that Mark Bingham was a 1987 graduate of Los Gatos High School and Todd Beamer was a 1988 graduate. The second article says the opposite. And the third article mentions that Mark Bingham graduated from Los Gatos but that Todd Beamer only attended for one year.

Bingham, a 1987 Los Gatos High School graduate, was aboard the flight from New York to San Francisco that went down in rural Pennsylvania on Sept. 11. Bingham has been credited with being one of the heroes of the terrorist attacks, along with 1988 Los Gatos High School graduate Todd Beamer.

http://www.community-newspapers.com/archives/lgwt/05.22.02/bingham-0221....

Los Gatos High School will remember graduates Todd Beamer (class of 1987) and Mark Bingham (class of
1988), who died aboard Flight 93 on Sept. 11, by planting two trees on its campus.

http://www.svcn.com/archives/lgwt/05.01.02/news-briefs-0218.html

When United Airlines flight 93 went down in Pennsylvania from a terrorist hijacking, two Los Gatos High School graduates perished with it: Mark Bingham, 31, and Todd Beamer, 32. Bingham, a public relations executive who commuted between San Francisco and New York, spent his teenage years in Redwood Estates. He graduated from Fisher Middle School and Los Gatos High School in 1988. Beamer only lived in Los Gatos for the 1986 to 1987 school year but established a name for himself as a basketball and baseball player.

http://www.findjeanine.com/jeanine/news/2001/LGWT-12-26-2001.htm

I fail to see the problem

beamer could've attended that school for his last year only. entirely feasible.

What is the point you are trying to make, that someone might've made a typo?

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nutty barrett

He his a loon, and a disgrace to the teaching profession.

One thing I like about Dr.

One thing I like about Dr. Barrett is that he always stays so cool. He always even seems to have a jovial "I can't believe you're for real" kind of demeanor. That is way cool. It makes O'Reilly and his likes to look like jokes. It will be interesting to see if Dr. Barratt's cool style causes O'Reily to get even more vitriolic than he usually is. One thing we can be sure of, there will be no reasonable discussion and exchange of ideas with O'Reilly. Dr. Barratt always manages to get out some good information for the public to go to and read up on themselves to come to their own conclusions, and that makes this visit of this 9-11 Scholar worthwhile in and of itself.

Blessings from Dachsie in Austin.

Talking points

Ask O'Liely about FOX getting talking points from the White House and watch his head explode!

Good luck Kevin.... just do what you do and you'll do just fine.... and don't forget to pimp your radio show.

Might want to bring your own building 7 video set-up.... cause you know they will not show it..... would be great if you could get set up on a bluescreen with that running in continuous loop behind you

Agreed

He's got a great demeanor and comes off like a real mensch, especially compared to the jerks trying to make him lose his cool.

I agree. I hope he's

I agree. I hope he's learned to handle these TV people. He's got to remain calm as well as deliver critical information and arguments.

Has he been on O'Reilly before? I think he has. If this is true, the discussion will probably be less confrontational.

It's apparent that shills like O'Reilly, Hannity, Glenn Beck,

ect., are modern-day participants in "Operation Mockingbird" as someone mentioned here previously. I think these frauds need to be confronted about this, and asked how much money (or other benefits) the Gov't gives them to promote their propaganda.

I don't think it's the best

I don't think it's the best thing to do to confront the shills in front of thier audiance. Don't forget who watch these shows.
I would say to Kevin, stay calme and remember that you don't have to answer his distorded questions. Just get the facts out and give out good web sites and told people to do their own reserch. Good luck man!

All right, but keep in mind these guy are likely COINTELPRO for

future reference.

WAR GAMES, PLEASE!

Kevin - Please say that Dick Cheney was running war games exercises. The case has been narrowed down to him or one or two generals, I think. They don't want to touch the war games.

I've asked Kevin...

To mention the family member's request for a new investigation. Since he's having on Donna Marsh O'Connor tomorrow on his GCN show, chances are, that might happen.


The Time For Debate Is Over

Headline

O'Reilley Desperately Trying to Steal Viewers From Olberman!!

Kevin.... Drop an Olberman reference..... that would be classic!!!..... might lead to appearance on Olberman

Laughing

Just sent Kevin an e-mail with the ultimate cutter for Bill if he gets mouthy.... Don't want to let the cat out of the bag but I'll let you all know if he uses it.... would be classic!

the line

Didn't use it... didn't look oustanding

Disappointed for sho

Relax, it's a fixed game,

Dr. Barrett did fine.

This just shows how desperate the MSM is getting.

O'Reilly framed this as a personal piece, he didn't want to talk about 9/11, he wanted to talk about how 9/11 activism was "ruining" Dr. Barrett's life and KB clearly stated that it wasn't.

I think that the MSM will realize that Dr. Barrett is too smart to fall into any of their traps and not have him on tv anymore. They'll retreat to the no planers and space beam crowd when they want to make the Truth movement look goofy. This gets old fast and the tv folks are addicted to new, so it's all good for us.

It is easy enough to just sidestep the marginal theories and stick to the main points, this is what will bring the fence sitters over to the truth.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Be well.

Kevin

If O'Reilly says you're disrespecting the family members, counter him with this:

Thousands Of Victims' Family Members Believe 9/11 Was An Inside Job
http://www.911blogger.com/node/3112

No No No...

This works much better.

(Whatever you're most comfortable with Kevin.)

:)


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I'd prefer if Kevin would

I'd prefer if Kevin would rip off O'Reilly's head and shit down his neck...

but if not, Jon's post is good too...

However . . .

A lot fhat which was initially resisted was done, though of course in a half ass fraudlulent way. That part is debateable, and it's hard to win on that alone.

If Doyle's statement is verified, then why not say that half of the family members think 9/11 was an inside job to some extent. How is it disrespecting them to want the truth?

Then say how the families had to force a reluctant Administration to an investigation that was run by myth-maker Zelikow, etc.

I also think that what the famiies think is not the be all and end all of an investigation. Even if every one of them wants closure, that is not a reason to stop looking for the truth. The implications go beyond the families.
Fortunately, that contradiction does not exist, but if it did, I would still call for further investigation.

Barrett vs O'Reilly Will the

Barrett vs O'Reilly

Will the True American Please Stand Up!

http://mujca.com/teaparty.htm


Boston Tea Party Kicks off 9/11 Truth Revolution

Barrett to Throw “Mr. Bill” O’Reilly in Harbor—But Will He Pull Him Out? 

On December 16th, 2006, 9/11 truth activists will converge on Boston to throw their copies of The 9/11 Commission Report into Boston Harbor. The event is expected to spark a nationwide uprising culminating in a second American revolution. [For information on the 9/11 Boston Tea Party, see http://www.911blogger.com/node/4594.] 

Along with the Omissions Commission Reports, 9/11 truth activist Kevin Barrett will throw Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly into Boston Harbor. The question is, will he pull him out? And if so, will he save O’Reilly by administering mouth-to-mouth resuscitation?  

The thought might gag an ordinary mortal. But Barrett, who has had Foxloads of offal slung in his general direction by knuckle-dragging yahoos, is no stranger to the foul and flatulent. The fact that “Mr. Bill” is just a life-sized two-dimensional mock-up seems not to have lightened Barrett’s burden. 

 “If I leave O’Reilly ‘floating in the harbor,’ just think what that would do to the ecosystem—the oil slick would kill all the harbor marine life and threaten the entire North Atlantic. I think I’d better pull him out. But what if he needs mouth-to-mouth? I’m almost retching just thinking about it.” 

The O’Reilly Harbor Toss is Barrett’s response to a thinly-veiled threat from Mr. Bill. During his program on 11 July, O'Reilly expressed dismay that Barrett, one of 80 university-affiliated Ph.D. members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, was being allowed to teach: “At the University of Wisconsin there are no standards. . . . I'm stunned. This guy would have been gone at Boston University, my alma mater, in a heartbeat. The Chancellor there, John Silber, would of--would have--this guy'd be in the Charles River floating down, you know, toward the harbor." 

Barrett, who has been the target of more filth & foulness flowing from O'Reilly's mouth than anyone other than sex-harrassment victim Andrea Mackris, insisted that the O'Reilly Harbor Toss was about humor, not revenge. "It's going to be like the Mr. Bill show," Barrett explained. "I say, 'Mr. Bill's going for a swim' and throw him in. He says (squeaky voice) 'Ohh Noooo!!! Save me, Mr. Kevin, save me!' I say, 'Hmmm...let's see...do I really want to save Mr. Bill?' And then...well, I hope I'll have it in me to do the right thing." 

Three days after the December 16th O'Reilly Harbor Toss, on Tuesday, December 19th, Kevin Barrett is scheduled to make his first-ever appearance on the O'Reilly Factor. Will O'Reilly thank Barrett for pulling him out of the harbor? Or will Mr. Bill just spew more humorless venom and thinly-veiled threats? Stay tuned...

Go Barrett!!

You kicked Hannities Ass Last time..Whoop O Reilly's Ass tonight!!!

Someone tell him to bring up

Someone tell him to bring up the ISI connection.

Show "911 Truth: Guerilla Marketing" by Anonymous (not verified)

I must of hit a nerve

I must of hit a nerve huh?

It would be a disaster if the majority of Internet Truthers turned their activities AWAY from the internet and out into their respective communities.

The COINTELPRO has not the resources, nor the manpower to cover the territory that we can cover...

What a disaster that would be, for you... 

Show "Not sure what you're talking" by Anonymous (not verified)

If that is what you think is

If that is what you think is effective, go for it... 

But the last thing a pr0n watcher wants is to have their brain engaged when they are trying to get their member engorged... 

Show "It seems Israel's Cyber Soldiers" by Anonymous (not verified)

ah

i see the space beams aren't working. time to trot out the anti-semites.

don't you guys at the pentagon take any time off for the holidays?

More like, *I* must've hit a nerve!

First it was negative ratings, then the 'you're cointelpro' smear, and now the hollowest, most pathetically worn out smear of all time, anti-Semite.

Me thinks some political entity REALLY doesn't want this method of 9/11 Truth propagation to get traction!

Real Truth Seekers, check it out, see if you don't agree with the effectiveness potential of this method... at any messageboard (political, financial, gardening, pr0n etc... just remember, pr0n gets the most eyeballs!) and offset some of these negative ratings by Israel's Cyber Soldiers while you're at it.

Yeah god forbid you

Yeah god forbid you interrupt people when they are trying to get their "whack off"

What the f*ck type of freak

What the f*ck type of freak sh!t is this? Mixing 9/11 Truth with pornography? Get off this site shill!

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

This is what this highly "censored" (net-negative-voted) sub-discussion is all about. Don't let the "PORN" (oh my!) angle scare you off. You're not voting up or down on porn or any sub-fetishes therein; you're looking at an extraordinarily effective way to get the good word out... guerilla style, ala FREEWAY SIGNS and DECEPTION DOLLARS and DVDs distributed about... with less work and more bang per minute invested.

Establish a handle at a messageboard of your choice... politics, finance, medical, photography, or as I initially suggested, porn (for the biggest cumulative traffic numbers).

You post helpful, on-topic stuff. The RUB, is your signature line...

I don't know how to code in an image here at 911B, but some semblance of the below should be your signature line... maybe someone can reply with that WTC7 .GIF displaying properly... EVERY 911 TRUTH SITE SHOULD DISPLAY THAT .GIF PROMINENTLY, NEAR THE TOP!

Also, the "videos" hyperlink below the WTC7 image, should point somewhere appropriate... for this example I used another post at the same (porn) messageboard; but all you need is a reliable URL which has your list of videos.

Picture the "signature" below WITH the WTC7 .GIF displayed, or check this messageboard post for an illustration of what I'm saying (work & family safe link)....

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The abrupt, symmetrical, free-fall-speed "melting" of WTC7,
aka "The House Of Spooks"
WTC7 .GIF displays here
9/11 Truth Videos Everyone Must See

Hey Hannity you need to reveal where flight 93's remains are

You can also reveal that Cheney WAS running the war games.

Come on shill... go ahead..be a real American..being in denial must cause you alot of stress.

Fetzer and Barret

It is all very strange. Fetzer, who promoted the all in all very compelling '9/11 Mysteries', but who is ALSO in bed with Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds with their bizarre theories (No-planes-at-WTC and laserbeam-from-space "theories"), runs 'The Dynamic Duo' with Barret. How can any intelligent human being view Wood and Reynolds as anything other than disinfo - and if Fetzer, who is also attacking Steven Jones BIG TIME, is most likely a disinfoagent, why is Barret coupling with him? Furthermore, Barret and Fetzer are regular guests with Fox, but not people like Jones, Griffin, Kevin Ryan, a.o. What is going on?!

i agree

I have a wait and see attitude about Barret. his recent editorial about not slamming the energy beams theory was a major disappointment for me. I am PRAYING that he does not suddenly announce his support for the cartoon planes from planet x on FoxNews tonight.

he could just be trying to stop the infighting - but i am holding my breath waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Apparently he's practically

Apparently he's practically neighbours with Fetzer or something in Wisconsin, so that might explain why he doesn’t want to cut loose from someone he probably considered a good friend I'd guess. But yea I totally sympathise man, it was very disappointing to see him defend the right of Fetzer, Wood and Reynolds to make us all look like nutjobs.

You Are

A Nut Job. Wear the badge proudly.

Dem Bruce? Do you have a degree?

Gary
911truthnc.org
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

No but I've got a brain

No but I've got a brain assclown, pushing the idea that "no planes hit the Towers" or that "Space Beams", "Mini Nukes" and "Pods" were involved is going to DAMAGE the CREDIBILITY of the entire movement! 99.9% of which completely reject all the crazy sounding shit from Fetzer, Wood and Reynolds. So you can take your "Degree", whatever the f*ck it's in, and shove it up your ass. You don't need to be qualified to own commonsense, but clearly you don't have an ounce of that. Get a clue!

I see.

All I ask was if you had a degree. Why you so upset.?

The veil be let down.

Gary
911truthnc.org
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

Assclown Hey

So any one who stands up to you is an Assclown now.
You are damaging the movements CREDIBILITY with dumbass remarks like that.
Gary
911truthnc.org
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

No, the credibility of the

No, the credibility of the movement is being damaged by people like Reynolds, Woods and Fetzer who continually attack people like Steven Jones who have actually produced papers for scientific review. They instead propose extraordinary alternate theories for which they provide NO SUPPORTING PAPERS.

If the "space beam" theory really supports all the WTC facts better, why do they insist on producing web-pages that mainly just attack Jones instead of providing a single paper that shows the "space beams" theory fits all the facts better?

Is that not the scientific method?  What are they hiding from?

When Jones defends the WTC airliner story, he cites soft evidence like videos, "many, many eyewitnesses," unverified flight data recorders, an alleged consensus of Scholars’ (capital "S") in favor of airliners and calls for release of evidence (who but the government could object?). Jones says videos "clearly show the commercial jet liner." Doh! You mean the perps would fake a video and NOT show a jet liner? The question is, do the pixels reflect reality or is the jet liner image inserted?

From a legal, adversarial point of view, most WTC "eyewitness" testimony in favor of large airliners is highly vulnerable. Get them in court and cross-examine them under oath. That’s a whole new ball game and I strongly suspect that an attorney of the "Gerard Holmgren" variety would crush them.

Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/why_indeed.html

Is this supposed to be academic? Is this good for the movement?

No, it is good for finding out what happened

and prosecuting the perpetrators.

Steven Jones waltzed onto the scene and very cavalierly dismissed a lot of good work, without any special knowledge of the issues. He got spanked for it.

Now his work is being reviewed by Wood and Reynolds. What is the problem with that?

The video of UA 175 sliding into the South Tower does not depict physical reality. Period. Was that video shown on television on 9/11? If so, we've got a problem.

Now why doesn't everyone just setle down and let everyone do their work, without accusations of "disinfo"?

You asked "Is it supposed to be academic?"

Here is what Wood and Reynolds said:

"The proof that 9/11 was an inside job was well developed by internet researchers, not academics. The question now is whether participation by academic researchers will hamper or help in expanding our understanding of 9/11 and bringing the perpetrators to justice. Early returns from the most highly sought-after research on 9/11?that of physicist Steven E. Jones?predict little or no good will come from the academic establishment on either 9/11 truth or justice. Proof that government/media lied and 9/11 was an inside job is being confounded and rolled back."

I do not think that pure academic is the right way. Steven Jones mistakenly tries to say "perr review" when the reality is this work is not and is unlikely to be peer-reviewed and published in academic journals. Saying it is when it has not just discredits the research. Peer review is not the sine qua non of good research -- if asked whether work is peer-reviewed, I would say that would be nice, but my peers are too chickenshit (more diplomatically of course).

I wish Steven Jones would focus on the physical proofs for controlled demolition, at least as the first step. It would be good to have a physics professor do the math rather than just cite prior work.

That's exactly what he was doing

"he could just be trying to stop the infighting"

until you know different, why continue the infighting?

I for one am hoping he states the obvious on Fox TV -- the butter-knife plane videos we saw on TV depict a physically impossible event.

If he says that is crazy, because that's what he thinks, good for him.

But if he says that because he thinks it is good for the "movement," even though he doesn't think that, very bad for him.

"Planes from planet x"? Once again, you are conflating theories. That is not sound reasoning.

Curious

Fetzer is a bit of a wild hair.

I have a masters degree in computer science.

I agree with his view that all options need to be looked at. Then dismissed if found not valid.

I am wondering. What qualifications John Albanese and Jon
Gold have. To tell us what is science and what is not.

What qualifies you of determining disinfo from real science?

What type of training do you two have? I notice you two spend a lot of energy claiming what is disinfo and what is legit science.

Please, I am curious. What is your degree in?

Gary
911truthnc.org
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

i have

an advanced degree in bullshit detection that derives from my understanding of history.

cointelpro was a PROVEN weapon against the anti-war movement of the 1960s. We know definitively that the government inserted lies and smears and propaganda into THOSE movements.

You do not need to be a scientist to know that planes were used on 9/11. You just need to have been a witness.

were you?

And, you do not need a degree in science to know that there is not sufficient evidence of "energy beams" that even APPROACHES proof in this case.

Simply stating that the technology exists (which is doubtful on this scale)is weak.

And - lastly - you simply need to be a citizen of the United States of America to know that i have a right to my own opinions.

you will please note that i have been forever agnostic on the issue of Stephen Jones' research - for the very reasons you mention... I am not a physicist. I can only gain a limited understanding of his work.

On the other hand, the research itself on energy beams does not in fact exist. Judy's paper is just a bunch of photos and mumbo jumbo that does not even APPROACH providing ANY proof that such a weapons was used.

This, taken in concert with the long string of theories on pods and holograms and mini-nukes and no planes is in fact a very REAL phenomenon.

truth is not a big tent - come one come all - circus. and that is what people like you are advocating - turning the truth movement into a circus.

Show "Too late John! The truth" by Anonymous (not verified)

But I guess you sickos need

But I guess you sickos need a hobby more than you need the truth.

Right back at ya', Troll! 

This troll obviously needs a

This troll obviously needs a hobby, but above all, he needs a very good shrink. The poor guy is seriously deranged.

PLEASE IGNORE THIS JERK!!!

This is ridiculous! The sooner you folks stop responding to this troll’s pathetic taunts and “nyah-nyah” comments, the sooner he’ll disappear. Just keep collapsing his replies and give him the same score (like -10 points), regardless of the content. Stop wasting your time and energy reading his trash.

OK, I wasted enough of mine already.

sure sure

go get a donut

Show "So where is your scientific" by Anonymous (not verified)

Proof? Sure. WTC 7 was a

Proof? Sure. WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. Period.

Since WTC 7 was held up by steel, one simply has to ask the question: what happened to the steel columns running up the edges and outer face of the building as it collapsed? Answer: they were systematically broken into small pieces by some man-made 'force' (ie. thermite/thermate/whatever, and I don't care which). If they weren't, then what would have been observed as the lower parts of these steel columns (amazingly) simultaneously failed (due to fire?...suuuure they did, nudge, nudge, wink, wink), would be that the columns would have 'shed' themselves of their floors due to their sudden impact with the ground below.

Here's a simple little experiment you can try at home, anonymous:

1. Find a nice big tree somewhere that environmentalists won't mind you messing with. This tree will be analogous to any one of the steel columns on the outer wall/corner of WTC 7.
2. Climb up the tree (the higher the better) and hang (by your neck, preferably, but your hands will do) from any branch you like. This will simulate floors being 'loosely' coupled to the steel column.
3. Now ask one of us rational people to *somehow* cause the lower 10-20 feet of the tree to instantly turn to jelly (I sure as hell don't know how we'd do this, but some magical force made it happen in WTC 7).

What happens? Simple: the tree drops straight down, and the abrupt stop from impacting the ground causes you to shed your grip on the branch (as the WTC 7 floors likely would have, or at least the outer wall 'covering' would have been visibly jarred from its mooring) and fall painfully to the ground (unless you opted for the rope-around-the-neck option I suggested above...in which case I suspect only your torso and legs would reach the ground). The tree remains upright for a time, then might tip over. Either way, it DOES NOT snap into short segments and repeat the above process all over till it's lying on the ground in short pieces.

Now repeat the above experiment with a bunch of trees layed out in a grid pattern. Good freakin' luck making step 3 come together like it magically did with steel on 9/11.

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, and the CD of WTC 7 proves it.

Notice, John . . .

this troll doesn't say your movement is a joke because of no planes, space beams, controlled demolition, Mineta, whatever. He says it is a joke period. Many people believe that. So why worry about they think.

Those willing to accept alternative explanations will not reject one alternative explanation they think makes sense just because someone else is proferring another alternative explanation they think is crazy.

Proof? Sure. WTC 7 was a

Proof? Sure. WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. Period.

Since WTC 7 was held up by steel, one simply has to ask the question: what happened to the steel columns running up the edges and outer face of the building as it collapsed? Answer: they were systematically broken into small pieces by some man-made 'force' (ie. thermite/thermate/whatever, and I don't care which). If they weren't, then what would have been observed as the lower parts of these steel columns (amazingly) simultaneously failed (due to fire?...suuuure they did, nudge, nudge, wink, wink), would be that the columns would have 'shed' themselves of their floors due to their sudden impact with the ground below.

Here's a simple little experiment you can try at home, anonymous:

1. Find a nice big tree somewhere that environmentalists won't mind you messing with. This tree will be analogous to any one of the steel columns on the outer wall/corner of WTC 7.
2. Climb up the tree (the higher the better) and hang (by your neck, preferably, but your hands will do) from any branch you like. This will simulate floors being 'loosely' coupled to the steel column.
3. Now ask one of us rational people to *somehow* cause the lower 10-20 feet of the tree to instantly turn to jelly (I sure as hell don't know how we'd do this, but some magical force made it happen in WTC 7).

What happens? Simple: the tree drops straight down, and the abrupt stop from impacting the ground causes you to shed your grip on the branch (as the WTC 7 floors likely would have, or at least the outer wall 'covering' would have been visibly jarred from its mooring) and fall painfully to the ground (unless you opted for the rope-around-the-neck option I suggested above...in which case I suspect only your torso and legs would reach the ground). The tree remains upright for a time, then might tip over. Either way, it DOES NOT snap into short segments and repeat the above process all over till it's lying on the ground in short pieces.

Now repeat the above experiment with a bunch of trees layed out in a grid pattern. Good freakin' luck making step 3 come together like it magically did with steel on 9/11.

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, and the CD of WTC 7 proves it.

Show "Ok, where's your science?" by Anonymous (not verified)

And not one certified,

And not one certified, independent, structural engineer has come forth to endorse the NIST report.

Video is THE best form of evidence. That's why we have things called surveillance cameras. Suck it up, little girl.
I just LOVE seeing you dim wits on the defensive. I' just hope I don't make you cry.

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WTC 7 WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. Please view the two videos found here:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/WTC7_Collapse.wmv

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.7.demolition.window.wmv

and note the following, undeniable, tell-tale Controlled Demolition aspect of the collapse:

THERE IS NO SIGN THAT THE WALLS OF THE BUILDING ARE EXPERIENCING ANY TRAUMA WHATSOEVER AS THEY FALL EFFORTLESSLY TO THE GROUND. THE STEEL COLUMNS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE WALLS DO NOT BUCKLE, BEND, JOLT, OR STUTTER AS THEY EASE SMOOTHLY AND CLEANLY INTO THE GROUND. THE STEEL COLUMNS ARE BEING SYSTEMATICALLY BROKEN UP AS THEY FALL. THIS IS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

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You are crying now, aren't

You are crying now, aren't ya?

And I'm too busy in the basement with your momma to be bothered with burger jobs.

Your reading comprehension is horrible, by the way. Here's the quote, AGAIN, with emphasis on the word you misplaced:

And not one certified, ***INDEPENDENT***, structural engineer has come forth to endorse the NIST report. NOT ONE.

And what about the surveillance cameras, dolt?

Oops, you forgot to address this little gem, Sally:

***********
WTC 7 WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. Please view the two videos found here:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/WTC7_Collapse.wmv

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.7.demolition.window.wmv

and note the following, undeniable, tell-tale Controlled Demolition aspect of the collapse:

THERE IS NO SIGN THAT THE WALLS OF THE BUILDING ARE EXPERIENCING ANY TRAUMA WHATSOEVER AS THEY FALL EFFORTLESSLY TO THE GROUND. THE STEEL COLUMNS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE WALLS DO NOT BUCKLE, BEND, JOLT, OR STUTTER AS THEY EASE SMOOTHLY AND CLEANLY INTO THE GROUND. THE STEEL COLUMNS ARE BEING SYSTEMATICALLY BROKEN UP AS THEY FALL. THIS IS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

"NIST employed quite a few Structural Engineers"

Yes the US GOVERNMENT'S (a.k.a. 9/11 criminals) NIST who employed quite a few Structural Engineers (NIST is an agency of the U.S. Commerce Department's Technology Administration).

Here's their budget (according to NIST's website)

NIST has an operating budget of about $930 million for fiscal year 2006 (Oct. 1, 2005 to Sept. 30, 2006).
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/budget.htm

That's A LOT of green to spread around if one wanted to influence another's opinion concerning the WTC demolitions.

nah, they use their clout as

nah, they use their clout as former Government Officials to land cushy jobs in the private sector when the next President comes online, or sooner if the money is right.  Without these government appointed jobs they are just normal administrators/managers.  Just because they have an engineering degree doesn't mean they actually do the grunt work, this is the Federal government.  All the REAL work is contracted out, Feds are just bureaucrats, they just push papers and pull down GS-15 Level0-9 salaries...

Dude?

You tell me how many companies around the world specializing in demolition have demolished structures over 40 stories set within range of other structures.

You tell me that and I'll tell you what the chances of finding one of them willing to speak out.

I help you out..... here is A #1... Numero Uno in the industry.... World Record Holder.....Controlled Demolition Inc.

CDI has had it's hand in it's fair share of government contracts... including the clean-up and removal of Oklahoma City and the WTC.... and I'm guessing they got a sweet bonus for the short notice.... dangerous conditions.... and expediancy..... as well as a nice tip for keeping their mouths shut.... also guessing that many of their team got their experience working for the military and all have high level clearance.....

Guessing they all get off by blowing stuff up.... the bigger the better.

They were also commissioned to do the plans for the demolition of the WTC complex some years prior.

Controlled Demolition Expert Says WTC7 is C.D.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/3231

He also confirms that "Pull it" is a demolition term.

"This is work of man. This is a hired job. [Larry Silverstein] said it himself. You hear him saying 'Pull it'" -Danny Jowenko, Conventional Demolition Expert

Here's an opinion from a former military demolition pro:
"I was trained to implode buildings, blow out bridges as well as being trained extensively in explosive booby traps of all kinds.. From day one on Sept. 11th, after seeing the footage of the airliner striking the WTC on CNN and seeing explosions happening on lower floors of both towers, I knew right then and there that the towers were purposely being imploded," - Former Army Sgt. Mark Johnson

Structural expert Joseph M. Phelps (FM)
MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member, Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers. More at link..
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html#FullMembers

Structural Experts say "WTC 7 was, with great probability, professionally demolished"
http://911blogger.com/node/2925

All good, except for Sgt.

All good, except for Sgt. Mark Johnson's quote. The Twin Towers were NOT imploded, they were EXPLODED. An important distinction.

Please

"you do not need a degree in science to know that there is not sufficient evidence of "energy beams" that even APPROACHES proof in this case."

Man, there is a bunch of low hanging fruit round here.

I did not endorse anything. All I ask. What is your training?

So the above statement sounds like you done a real investigation. Is that the case? Or are you just stating an opinion. Which is far more likely?

Please provide the proof of your above statement.

Again, I am not endorsing Space Beams. I just do not think
people on 911blogger have a qualified opinion to be really informed. And that includes you.

Gary
911truthnc.org
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

The towers were brought down

The towers were brought down by resonant high-frequency beta-wave transmissions from Alpha Centary. Are you qualified to say otherwise?

Take you space beam crap elsewhere, pal. This kind of dis-info rubbish is not needed here.

That is more likely

than that a plane slipped into WTC2 withotu resistance as shown on TV.

It's "Centauri." by the way.

What he just said was so completely not disinfo. It was a very reasonable, agnostic view of the evidence.

What you just said served no purpose whatsoever.

Thanks for the spelling correction...

I am so happy that you corrected my spelling. My post makes sense now.

Here's something you might wanna "inquire" about: ever seen the slo-mo footage of a candle (yup, a WAX candle) being fired at high speed at a sheet of plywood? It may be tough footage to find on the 'net, but if you do find it, post the link here because what is shows is that the candle goes clean thru the plywood and comes out the other side with minimal deformation. The similarity of this ballistics test to the tower impacts may or may not stand up under scrutiny, but it's good enough for my money. And it sure beats to hell your nutter implication (I assume this is what you are implying) that it was holograms.

Doubting Thomas

So now, you imply, Kevin Barrett is disinfo and Jim Fetzer is disinfo !!?? I guess you're the only one who isn't. lol.

This is where you end up wen you start throwing around accusations based only on the fact that Woods and Reynolds' research is new.

The thought police are active today, aren't they?

...censoring everyone who does not toe the party line.
What exactly is it they are afraid of?

Thought police, exactly

Thank you.

I'm not suggesting that it

I'm not suggesting that it is clear that Barret is disinfo, it was actually an honest question (but offcourse based on a suspicion since Wood and Reynolds are evidently promoting bizarre theories and attacking Jones BIG TIME. And Fetzer seems to want to take over ST911, and is also launching outrageous and bizarre accusations against Jones. Why would Barret have a show with this moroon?).

Thomas, I respectfully ask that you...

...watch the utube interview with Kevin Barrett further on in this thread.
IMHO his attitude is the correct one for our movement. We should be aware that there are those who seek to sow suspicion among 911Truthers, especially against Reynolds and Woods and now even Fetzer.
Also, calling Prof. Fetzer a moron is hardly helpful.

I was wondering about that

I was wondering about that myself... After the filth they (Fetzer, Reynolds) threw at Jones, plus the space-beams stuff, I would think any (semi-)intelligent person would avoid Fetzer and Scholars like a plague... They have become such a liability... Perhaps Fox is grooming Fetzer for a big Truth Movement demolition job... If that's the case, I am surprised to see Mr. Barrett mixed in, though. He definitely belongs with real scholars like Jones, Ryan, Griffin, Hoffman, etc...

If you listen to his "Truth

If you listen to his "Truth Jihad" show on RBN from Saturday night, you'll see he makes it pretty clear they have parted ways.

Kevin Barrett...

Is NO Jim "I have a history of causing disruptions in every movement I join" Fetzer.


The Time For Debate Is Over

I'm convinced that barret

I'm convinced that barret is OK if he parts with Fetzer, perhaps he has only just recently dicovered Fetzers agenda. Generally, I also do not think it is a good idea to get too much into the 'disinfo-fingerpointing', but anyone who associate themselves with Fetzer (since he is promoting Wood and Reynolds so actively) really should get the hell away if they want to avoid suspicion. But again, we should certainly focus on the good and serious stuff.

The reason Dr. Barrett is invited on these shows is

people like O'Reilly need an angle to frame their show with.

In the case of Dr. Kevin Barrett it is the fact that he is an American muslim and has had media created controversy swirling around him regarding his teaching at University of Wisconin-Madison. This gives O'Reilly and others an easy way to try and attack him.

Dr. Griffin, Dr. Jones and Kevin Ryan are too clean, too all-American to be easily attacked by lazy hitmen like O'Reilly and thus do not get invited on these shows.

Don't worry about Dr. Barrett, he's a very smart, very spiritual person and very cool under pressure. He'll do just fine.

We are going through a phase where the MSM is trying to figure out the best way to attack the Truth movement. Ignoring all of us only worked for a little while. Ridiculing all of us only brought more attention to the movement. I think that they are now selectively ignoring certain people who are impossible to smear (e.g. Dr. Griffin, Dr. Jones and Kevin Ryan) and effectively blacklisting them from the MSM while picking a few members of the movement they think they can show in a bad light and thus win their propaganda campaign for the middle third of the American population. This is where the battle of Truth vs. Myth now lies, in the middle third of America and we need to craft our message for them just as the MSM is tailoring their message to keep them buying the lies of 9/11.

Remember, the Truth movement is now a real political force. We are big and they know we are big, so they are changing their tactics and will continue to change their tactics as they look for ways to slow our growth.

The next four months are very critical for the 9/11 Truth movement. Beginning right after the new year we need to make a huge push on multiple fronts and force this issue into the MSM.

We can do it. We have truth and physics on our side. Our numbers increase every day and once someone comes over to the truth they never go back.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Be well.

Good post

My question is, why is it always Hannity or O'Reilly on Fox interviewing these guys? Almost nothing from MSNBC, and NOTHING from CBS and ABC.

Does Fox feel some sort of pressure that the other networks do not? Or are they trying to be out in front of all this, but not go out on too much of a limb by having a guy like DR Griffin?

This interview tonight will of course be a lot of yelling and name-calling by O'Reilly, with Barret getting little chance to speak. I don't even get why O'Reilly goes through the exercise, he already knows what he's going to do. Of course, that's all part of the Fox plan.

It's coming down to numbers, and these guys live by the numbers

Remember, the last national polls showed that only 16% still bought the government 9/11myth.

Fox represents and plays to the hardcore base, so they need to find some "muslim-American conspiracy nut" to beat up on to keep their base toeing the party line and try to smear the entire movement. This is all about trying to stem a social dynamic.

The MSM will try to completely ignore people like Dr. Griffin and Dr. Jones as they are far too credible on tv to try and make look bad. They tried it a few times and realized it was a losing proposition for them. So PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC and MSNBC will just keep them off the air at all costs.

I'm guessing that the MSM is hoping that FOX can get a "big name" Truther to melt down on air and then use clips of that to try an ridicule the entire movement and thus push the critical middle third of Americans away from the 9/11 Truth movement.

What the MSM hasn't seemed to have figured out yet, and in fact most Truthers haven't yet grasped, is that the dynamic the 9/11 Truth movement has set in motion is completely beyond the control of the MSM or even the government (or even the movement itself, really).

We are looking at the beginning of the 2nd American Revolution, where the people will demand accountability and the rule of law, and once awakened to the truth they will not settle for less.

While I don't expect the revolution to be televised, you will know it is happening if David Ray Griffin is being interviewed on the Lehrer NewsHour on PBS.

Before that happens I think you will know it is happening because we will all be standing around the White House on July 4th, 2007 demanding a full investigation along with impeachment.

Sorry for the long answer...LOL

The short answer is that the MSM is irrelevant. Talk to your neighbors and your friends across the country, spread the word, we're sick and tired of the bs and we're not going to put up with it any longer.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Be well.

LeftWright see's through the smoke to victory!!

I agree, this is what we need more of, well considered attacks on many fronts in the New Year. As you say it is this middle swinging third you talk of that we must engage to win the INFO WAR! Thank god idiots like Bush have given us a chance to raise their mistrust in government to a new level. Especially as Iraq get worse by the minute.

Good luck Kevin, I'm sure you will do your best.

Regards John Bursill

Good question.

My point of view as well...

Please stop the disinfo accusations

"How can any intelligent human being view Wood and Reynolds as anything other than disinfo "

By thinking for himself.

Please stop pushing the disinfo line. Are you aware that this is classic disinfo?

I asked Kevin These very questions in Boston.

You can check out his response here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QPZWVQdAzI

I've added this and other interviews from Boston to my blog, but it seems they haven't been approved by the blogger board of approval yet.Radical Pragmatist

Great job getting that RP!

Great job getting that RP! Everyone check this out, wise words;

Very nice work

Thanks especially for that second question. :)

The 911 blogger censors have

The 911 blogger censors have finally posted my interviews with Kevin on the blog, for anyone wanting to view and comment.
Bruce you are a true radical.....bypassing the censures and posting the video directly to comments section. Its like grassroots blogging.(smile) I'll try that next time.Radical Pragmatist

I like our odds

Kevin thinks quick on his feet, is not intimidated by O'Reilly and oh right... has the TRUTH on his side!

Yeah, I like our odds!

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How can anyone

who's done a film on 9/11 be agnostic about the controlled demolition?There's no official explanation for the collapse of WTC -7 which should tell you it was brought down by a controlled demolition and the NIST report is an absolute fraud.

Show "Yo...did you notice that the" by Anonymous (not verified)
Show "Nice strawman dickhead." by Anonymous (not verified)

That's because you posted

That's because you posted it. Not a big surprise there.

I did not say.....

....i was agnostic on controlled demolition. i said i was agnostic on Jones' research which goes into quite a bit of technical detail that i am not qualified to interpret or judge.

personally, the free fall speed of all 3 buildings is the smoking gun that convinces me that gravity could not possibly account for these collapses. 47 core columns simply spontaneously falling?

but - i am unsure about Jones' analysis of thermite - molten metal - the color of glowing metal - etc etc - that Jones presents. i just don't know. he strikes me as sincere. but i just don't know.

Sorry

Mr. Albanese, thought you were an agnostic on the issue of a controlled demolition. As far as Jones, his research seems very solid and hope it will continue to be so.

John, your a very smart man,

John, your a very smart man, just check his assertions and make a conclusion.  He isn't proposing anything that is even remotely "exotic" or unconfirmed.

Black Body Radiation pretty much encompasses the metals at different temperatures issue. 

Getting pretty desperate huh

Getting pretty desperate huh Anon?

Place your bets!!!

How long before O'Reilly utters his first "nut?"

How many times will O'Reilly use the word "nut?"

My guesses are:
10 seconds.
5 times.


The Time For Debate Is Over

in the intro. count on it.

in the intro. count on it.

You think he'll say...

"And tonight, from Madison Wisconsin, we have the nutty Kevin Barrett...?"


The Time For Debate Is Over

I'd say in the intro like

I'd say in the intro like Chris suggested, followed by a comparison to that prick Ward Churchill.

No Worries

If Kevin got my message.... he's got the come back that will crack any nut comment.... as well as getting him play on other shows... and probably get some youtube and google video play!!

as long as he doesn't let fly with John Kerry comedic delivery

He'll say it 4 times, and Barrett will be cut off within 40 secs

or faster

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Bet

I'm going with 15 seconds before the first "nut" is uttered by O'Reilly (semi-polite intro for 10 seconds and letting Barrett speak for 5 seconds before interrupting with "nut" comment.

I'm upping the number of nuts to 6!

Just Watched The Show

I just watched Barrett on the Factor. The usual O'Reilly smear tactics which I expected but what I noticed was not so much what that slime-ball said but his hands and body movement. Funny thing, he had a body language expert on right before his attack on Barrett and the truth movement. Did any one else notice how his kept moving his hands and body in a very nervious manner? He was a completely different person than he was when he interviewed his other guests. He knows the truth about 9/11 and is scared to death. As far as the interview I thought Barrett did an excellent job despite the slime-balls insults. Good work Kevin, you did a great job!

Just Watched The Show

I just watched Barrett on the Factor. The usual O'Reilly smear tactics which I expected but what I noticed was not so much what that slime-ball said but his hands and body movement. Funny thing, he had a body language expert on right before his attack on Barrett and the truth movement. Did any one else notice how his kept moving his hands and body in a very nervious manner? He was a completely different person than he was when he interviewed his other guests. He knows the truth about 9/11 and is scared to death. As far as the interview I thought Barrett did an excellent job despite the slime-balls insults. Good work Kevin, you did a great job!

Could somebody please record

Could somebody please record it and upload it onto 911blogger? I won't be able to see it when it airs.

Barrett and Iran

Barrett is a courageous man that will take a few lumps from that psychopath O'Really? in order to help get the word out over the Zionist Media Waves. Good for him. Of course he will be insulted and spit on by the "host" of the show. I would add that Barrett also ought to visit Iran to meet with its president to discuss 911, and hopefully the Holocaust, so that these two huge hoaxes can be debunked linking US/Zionist imperialism to the issue.

911 has nothing to do with the holocaust

nice try to slip that in there.

I'm sick of the Anonymice....

1 Anonymouse is enough, but this is a rodent infestation and it almost deters me from posting.

"Almost"

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Topics of the show tonight....

Atheists, far-left loonies, and ........ Kevin Barrett.

Nice.

Here's a good beginning...

An atheist, a far-left looney and Kevin Barrett walk up to a bar.......

Waiting

for the interview. 10 minutes into the show.... I will have to wait till someone posts the file. Can't take this guy

It's horrible having to

It's horrible having to listen to this creature at work, a truly annoying and self congratulatory prick of the highest order, even when he's backed into a corner tighter than a mouses ear he won't back down from his veiw point, he's also one of the chief sloganeerers dumbing down to an unbelievable level.

He's just wrongly stated that the roadside bombs are "coming from Iran" wonder if he has any evidence to back this up with ? the same evidence that said Iraq had WMD no doubt :)

watching O'Reilly is a real cringe worthy experience.

Waiting...

Are you kidding? He knows he's stealing Olberman ratings right now... he's going to at the very least hold out untill the second half.

He is an annoying asshole... but then again... so are people who watch

Has he mentioned...

Kevin, and I've just missed it?


The Time For Debate Is Over

Kevin mentioned in the beginning of intro,

taking the angle of Kevin still allowed to teach. Other topics yet to cover before Kevin's interview, like Mess USA. Probably put into the last segment. Isn't that how they usually do it?

no suprises

I hope it doesn't turn out this way, but think we all know how this is going to go...
I am about 25 min. into his stomach churning show and I almost can't continue to wait for reily to belittle him.
Anyways, I find it interesting that, 25 min. into his "news" show, there is no mention of the upcoming "interview." I'm wondering if he is actually going to be on THE FACTOR..lol...or if he's just trying to give him as little attention as possible. Seems likely.

yes

at the top of the show.... barrett will be on

i came home to my computer's

i came home to my computer's screen being nothing but flashing colored blocks.. tried reseating everything, blowing it out with air, etc. and its still down for the count, so i won't be able to grab this.

bah.

do you

want me to slingbox it.. I don't know how to upload it to you however

Here is how it will go

O'Reilly won't give Barrett much time to talk

On

On Wisconsin!!

He called Kevin Radical

That was an improvement..so to speak

LOL

They are analyzing Dan Rathers facial expressions about a story they are working on.... the White House talking points....

This is the funniest thing I have ever seen.... and O'Liely is manipulating it for his own means

What a joke.... it's almost sickening

he has his fans completely hoodwinked

Surprised they are not analyzing Barrett.... they'll probably do it during or after they talk

If I was Barrett I wouldn't want to be on that show again

except to gloat in O'Reillys face

lol @ O'Reilly not believing that poll

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I give it a C-

ALL HE HAD TO SAY WAS "ARE THE FAMILY MEMBERS DEMANDING A NEW INVESTIGATION on 9/11/2006 CRAZY?"

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I agree DHS

That would have been...perfect

oh man

welllll....He gave him more time to speak than fetzer....but god damnit that makes me mad. o reily's words are poisen. he's a fucking bully with no braqins and a spine as thick as his empty head.

oh man

welllll....He gave him more time to speak than fetzer....but god damnit that makes me mad. o reily's words are poisen. he's a fucking bully with no braqins and a spine as thick as his empty head.

Ahh, I have to stop watching "The Factor"

I can't believe how much pity I hold for Bill O'Reilly. For a man to be THAT ignorant and truely smug on something he clearly knows very little about makes our case stronger. He just makes laughable attacks with every question, like "If your outlandish theories..blah blah".
O'Reilly asks "Well why aren't all the 'liberal' media all over this" repeatedly because he can't debate any other issue and knows that his question requires a lengthy, detailed and more complicated answer. He also forgets that the 'real media' work is all done by us and others online, on the net. (which he always attempts to demonize) and that the left wing media isn't truely free and can't go as far to write their own articles about 9/11, they always need some 9/11 truther in there with an interview, which normally ends up turning into a hit piece on a personal level.

We need to push like crazy now.

(plus O'Reilly says "I don't believe that poll"...WTF??? It's a scientific poll to boot!!)

What a complete and utter loser in life Bill will be.

Gareth Williams, UK.

Kevin...

Was articulate, and came across well. Remember, Bill didn't want to debate the points. He said that at the beginning because he knows he would lose.

The best possible "comeback" to the question "Well why isn't the media covering it?"

You say... "You want to know why "news outlets" such as Fox News aren't covering it? I was hoping you would tell me Bill. Where is Fox News' coverage of the family members calling for a new investigation at the National Press Club in Washington D.C.?"


The Time For Debate Is Over

Has Kevin Barrett Even Read My Blog Here?????????

http://www.911blogger.com/node/3704

 

 

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T EMAIL HIM A LINK TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Kevin COMPLETELY froze when asked the MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION!

 

 

O'Reilly is the biggest

O'Reilly is the biggest piece of sh*t on the planet.

"Why doesn't the media cover 911?"

Because as William Colby said, ""The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

http://www.infowars.com/articles/media/sex_lies_call_girls_us_media_whor...

Harass any women lately Bill?

"Why doesn't the media cover

"Why doesn't the media cover 911?"

Because as William Colby said, ""The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Exactly.

Here are a few other related quotes.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
- David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991

"There is no such thing as an independent press in America, unless it is in the country towns. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print.

I am paid $150.00 a week for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should permit honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, like Othello, before twenty-four hours, my occupation would be gone.

The business of the New York journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon; to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are intellectual prostitutes."
- John Swinton, editor of the New York Tribune.

"We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows."
- Katherine Graham, Washington Post publisher and CFR member.

"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
- Richard Salent, former president, CBS News

"We are going to impose our agenda on the coverage by dealing with issues and subjects that we choose to deal with."
- Richard M. Cohen, Senior Producer of CBS political news.

"We in the press like to say we're honest brokers of information and it's just not true. The press does have an agenda."
- Bernard Goldberg, as quoted by Harry Stein in the June 13-19, 1992 TV Guide.

“In war, the truth must be guarded by a bodyguard of lies.”
- Winston Churchill

Poor Bill

I can't believe how much pity I hold for Bill O'Reilly. For a man to be THAT ignorant and truely smug on something he clearly knows very little about makes our case stronger. He just makes laughable attacks with every question, like "If your outlandish theories..blah blah".
O'Reilly asks "Well why aren't all the 'liberal' media all over this" repeatedly because he can't debate any other issue and knows that his question requires a lengthy, detailed and more complicated answer. He also forgets that the 'real media' work is all done by us and others online, on the net. (which he always attempts to demonize) and that the left wing media isn't truely free and can't go as far to write their own articles about 9/11, they always need some 9/11 truther in there with an interview, which normally ends up turning into a hit piece on a personal level.

We need to push like crazy now.

(plus O'Reilly says "I don't believe that poll"...WTF??? It's a scientific poll to boot!!)

What a complete and utter loser in life Bill will be.

Gareth Williams, UK.

sheesh

You see how he manipulated the interview?

"How did this change your life?"

This is why good people get shoved to the side whil the manipulators always prevail.

You need to be able to take any talking point and make it your own.... you ask about peanut butter and I spin it to talk about jelly

He seemed so unprepared.

He should have known he was going to get one shot at it.

This was sad.... was anything acomplished?

besides O'Liely lumping the entire military in with this event... killing 3,000 Americans.

It's in our court again....

Now they are propogating the all out bombing campaign of destroying Iran.... go Buchanan you FUCK!

It was a set-up question...

Kevin should have turned it around on Bill. Something to the effect of:

"Great question Bill! Why don't you tell me?"

He could have followed up with...

"Perhaps for the same reasons George Bush didn't even want to investigate 9/11. Perhaps because they already know the truth of the matter... and the thought of American's finding out the truth on a mass scale scares the hell out of them?"

Or he could have said,

"Probably the same reason why you have to go to the internet to see a video of WTC7 being demolished. I don't know Bill, but what I do know is if you google 9/11 Truth, over 5.7 million hits pop up. I encourage people to do their own research and stop relying on the likes of Fox News. We know you guys lie!"

Of course hind sight is 20/20.

Sleep well Kevin. "O'Really"

Sleep well Kevin. "O'Really" made a fool of himself dismissing the poll, there are lots more of us out here, and we always got your back.

Alrighty then! Let's seed this O'Really song..
http://www.streamload.com/donnyd413/B_O/B_O_FINAL_CD.mp3

O'Reilly is such a dick that

O'Reilly is such a dick that he actually makes me laugh;

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?121906/121906_views_oreilly&...

Troubling Interview

I thought it started out good for Kevin and then went down hill fast. That wasn't the place to call Bush a mass-murderer. First of all, we don't know if Bush was in the loop on 9/11. He could be just as much of a stooge as Atta.

Then the stupid word game on who's more crazy, Barrett or O'Reilly, was a total waste of time.

Not the best 9/11 interview.

Totally agree

Even though I'm anti-Bush, it was a bad time for Bush-bashing, and then he screwed up by saying 600,000 americans have died in iraq.
UGG!

Well this just means we ALL have to work THAT MUCH HARDER to get the truth out.

A huge lost opportunity tonight

Kevin, had the rare opportunity to speak to millions of Americans about 9/11 Truth and he was suckered into a word battle with an ignorant idiot. What a shame.

The only bit of value Kevin delivered was the mention of the NY Times poll. And this was minimized by O'Reilly. Kevin should have had a copy of the NY Times issue with the poll to hold up in front of the camera!

Kevin's performance tonight was a clear symptom of the Truth movement not yet being well organized. For an oppotunity like this on mainstream media, Kevin should have been coached and briefed by a panel of experts to ensure he was prepared to:

1. Deliver the hardest hitting 9/11 Truth points - regardless of the questions he was asked, he should have had 3-5 key points to get across
2. Direct viewers/listeners to specific web sites where they can see the evidence for themselves! He didn't even mention any evidence.
3. Respond to all questions with calm, collected, dignity and NOT get pulled into a silly argument about who's crazy.
4. Politely but passionately invite the audience to examine evidence for themselves so they can begin to draw their own conclusions

An opportunity like Kevin had tonight is too big waste. The Truth Movement needs to provide support for such situations. What can we do to create such an infrastructure?

Maybe I have not dug deep enough yet, but I have yet to find a 9/11 Truth curriculum that offers a comprehensive manual for how to address an audience that is not yet ready for 9/11 Truth. Has anyone created such a thing? It seems that we are all just winging it like Kevin did tonight. We can't fall into the "nut" trap if we want to keep increasing momentum.

Here are some suggestions for some organized 9/11 Truth support infrastructure:

1. A multi-step curriculum that can be used to guide 9/11 Commission Report Believers onto the 9/11 Truth Seeker's path. You can't just walk up to someone on the street and say that George Bush killed 3000 Americans. Poeple need to be eased into the idea that governments have ever done such things at all. Then they can be eased into the motives and then finally into the actual evidence that the official story is false. We need someone to step forward and create this curriculum and a way to teach us how to deliver it to newbies.

2. An expert panel of volunteers to coach and prepare speakers for high profile engagements such as the O'Reilly Factor tonight. Maybe Kevin could have benefitted from a pep talk with Tarpley today. This could take the form of a panel of people with various knowledge and skill related to Physics, Politics, PR, Public Speaking, etc. This group could field requests from Truth Seekers that have high profile public opportunities for which to prepare.

I believe that a lot of people have gone part of the way toward enabling Truth Seekers to create new Truth Seekers. However, if we are going to reach critical mass we'd better band together where we can and help each other spread the desire for truth. Regardless of what each of us believes actually happened on 9/11/01, we all share the desire to see a truly independent investigation. That is the message that we should all rally around.

If what I've written here resonates with you, please share your own comments. I hope this will serve as a catalyst for more meaningful discussion about how we can take on the corporate media and how we can more effectively awaken more and more sleeping 9/11 Commission Report Believers.

Wow...I took time out from

Wow...I took time out from watching the college football bowl game to watch most of the show and all of Kevin's appearance. Bill is a pathetic and twisted person in so many ways. I can't believe that he has such a large audience of brainwashed viewers who watch that trash. Words can't even describe how terrible his show is and how twisted he (Bill) is.

He really showed how psychotic he is when that body "language expert" was describing Dan Rather.

Everything about the entire show was trash.

Intimidating Academics

Anybody else get the feeling that the point of this interview was to tell any aspiring academics that their careers will suffer if they dare to touch upon this issue?

It really did sound like that.

But what true academic would 1. Be watching Bill O'Reilly, 2. Give a flyin Fck what Bill o'Reilly has to say. 3. Trust anything that Bill O'Reilly has to say.i.e 'They told me you can't go back."Radical Pragmatist