An Interview with Gore Vidal

Thanks to MediaPuppet for sending this in:


RM: Oliver Stone was recently sanctioned by the US State Department for violating the blockade against Cuba. His crime was traveling to Cuba to make two documentaries about Fidel. Are these measures constitutional?

Gore Vidal: Well of course it's a violation, as the first amendment grants us freedom of speech, the fourth amendment of the constitution is the bill of rights, which guarantees our rights to assembly and so forth. We have had since 9/11 a coup d´etat in the United States, the first we've ever had, in which a group of rather dishonest oil and gas people were able to seize the power of the State and by so doing they ended up with the Congress in their hands, they ended up with the presidency and much of the judiciary and much of the courts. It happened very fast. It's quite unique. It will be a great story one day at the moment it's just something the people don't understand. What they've never seen before doesn't exist really. Well they're seeing it now, in situ, as archaeologists, and it's a very unpleasant sight. Out of that come the sanctions, as you put it, on Oliver Stone, who has every right to make any movie that he wants to make and in whatever circumstance, as long as he breaks no laws, and no laws have been broken here. They [Bush and Cheney] just don't like it, oh! My goodness me!


Gore Vidal is really coming

Gore Vidal is really coming around. Keep working people, the tide is turning.

Oh my

Can you say, quasi-dictatorship!

The question is whether or not the police and military will see through to carrying out police state actions. It's certainly a possibility. It's happened alot in history and the moment. Cuba itself has been living under a police state for about fifty years, you have China existing as such a place for longer. There are plenty of examples around the globe. It can happen here, and the present circumstances certainly paint a vivid portrait of such a rule of law with a government taking over control of its citizens' lives.

Stop iy before it becomes unsurmountable

Show "Stone doesn´t by the conspiracy stuff" by Reality (not verified)

how do you feel about his

how do you feel about his theories on the assassination of JFK?

Show "Stone on JFK conspiracy" by Reality (not verified)

i know, the alleged official

i know, the alleged official story of 9/11 is practically impossible without some sort of inside help. it was so hard to pull off logistically right Reality? i agree, and 19 people with box cutters just isnt realistic for such a complicated operation. your logic is absurd,hahaha. so hilarious, you tell me how hard it would be to pull off logistically then proceed to believe it was more likely that 19 patsies did it alone. do you see how ridiculous that logic is?

Show "Typical ridiculous response" by Reality (not verified)

well, that wasnt a typical

well, that wasnt a typical response or anything. can you say anything original?

he's known the score for some time

mostly I think he's just not a "joiner" - pretty much outside any "movement" - caught his interviews and such about his new book, still posted over at - then posted on their blog encouraging him to lend his voice to 911Truth - perhaps his oblique references are worth as much - hard to say

cockburn is bombing us on

cockburn is bombing us on digg. What an ass.

ive always admired Gore

ive always admired Gore Vidal, would love to see him come around fully.

Are you going to Chandler, Arizona?

Chris, are you going to Chandler, Arizona in February 2007?

no. why? what is it? did i

no. why? what is it? did i miss something?

ok, now i remember. no, i

ok, now i remember. no, i cant imagine i would be able to make it to that conference, though if you wanna pay for my plane ticket and hotel room i would! haha, jk, but im up to my ears in medical bills and shit, i just dont have the money to travel across the country right now. though Arizona sounds great. especially considering the furthest ive strayed from the Philly area is Washington D.C. ive never even been on a plane and im 24 years old! are you going? who am i talking to by the way? a "friendly" Anonymous or something else? just wondering.

Link to BBC WTC big explosion clip

Does anyone know of the link to a clip about a minute long with a BBC reporter at the WTC center talking about a huge explosion that he had heard, and then suddenly a plane hits the first tower to his shock and amazement?

I am looking for the link. Thanks.

Pointing one finger out points three back at Big Bush...

I saw this quote over to the side of the front 911blogger page. It is as if Big Bush is talking about the NeoCons, the Project For The New American Century, himself, and Big Cheney.

"We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions--by abandoning every value except the will to power--they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies."

— George W. Bush, Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People, September 20, 2001

And then there is this....

The trash LIEberry that will darken the campus of Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas:

Bush is attempting to raise $500 million to build a library and think tank at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, the alma mater of First Lady Laura Bush. “The more [money] you have, the more influence [on history] you can exert,” one adviser said. Much of the money will be used to build a “legacy-polishing” institute:

The legacy-polishing centerpiece is an institute, which several Bush insiders called the Institute for Democracy. Patterned after Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, Bush’s institute will hire conservative scholars and “give them money to write papers and books favorable to the President’s policies,” one Bush insider said.

bush uses projection as a control tool

the bushes are a study in abnormal psyche mass murdering for profit..and blaming others...

"According to Sigmund Freud, projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, feelings — basically parts of oneself — onto something else (usually another person, but psychological projection onto animals, inanimate objects — even religious constructs — also
occurs). "

Peter Gay describes it as "the operation of expelling feelings or wishes the individual finds wholly unacceptable—too shameful, too obscene, too dangerous—by attributing them to another." (Freud: A Life for Our Time, page 281)

The concept was anticipated by Friedrich Nietzsche:

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
— Beyond Good and Evil

This shows his guilt trying to surface

"Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched."

George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with
Sarah McClendon in December 1992

Exactly right

Classic Freudian projection. There's no mystery what the truth is--Bush spells it all out for you.

chased down in the streets and lynched

Wow that quote is nuts.. do you have a source/link/citation or context for that?

Download and save this Bush 43 example of PROJECTION...

Peter, you can actually download and save this nugget of PROJECTION by Bush and his NeoCon speech writers.

Visit the website below:

THEN scroll down to these items:

Address To Joint Congress 20 Sep 2001 pt1(linear recording)
Address To Joint Congress 20 Sep 2001 pt2(linear recording)

You can save these files to your computer and share them with family and friends.

Incidentally, this was also the occasion where Bush stated that "you are with us or with the terrorists".

It appears that this speech was written and planned far in advance just waiting to be released from the vaults for more psychological assault on the citizenry.

Glad you asked

Could NOT find the actual interview so its Myth or Fact

You Decide
She has NOT denied it.

quitea few debates about it
the June 1992 interview has been unobtainable by more austute researchers than me.

Wonder Why???
I found this debate interesting.

"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." President George H.W. Bush, quoted by Sarah McClendon (White House Reporter) in her June 1992 Newsletter.

""Sarah, if the people had ever known the truth
about what we Bushes have done to this nation,
we would be chased down in the streets and lynched."

-- George Bush snr. to reporter Sarah McClendon, June 1992

Touched a nerve did it Fiddle?

"I found it on 3 websites - all conspiracy ones when I googled it. Credibility of your quote... around zero."

by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on May 18, 2006 6:49pm

You are lying, I got it from Wisdom quotes .com -

- now you're not going to try and tell everyone that's a conspiracy site are you???

Credibility and integrity of my goodself and the quote -100%

Credibility and integrity of Fiddle - 0%

He said that alright, the truth hurts doesn't it fiddle?
by Ken_from_Dublin on Wed Jun 14, 06 4:08pm

1. Huffington Post blog, not real story.
2. antwerpen. indymedia. org (conspiracy site)
3. ntimc dot org (conspiracy)
4. what really happened (conspiracy)
5. infovlad apparently a blog
6. spingola (conspiracy)
7. scoop co nz (blog)
8. williambowles (conspiracy blog)
9. a myspace site
10. dissidentvoice (radical peace site)

NEED I GO ON??? I did my homework. Those are the first ten sites.

You are just a conspiracy fascist ken. You don't have any pretension of determing the truth. You don't want debate. You use karma as a weapon against those who disagree with you which makes you a jerk.

Don't call me a liar. You can find a quote on that site, it doesn't mean it is true.

ODD, I CAN SEARCH LEXIS NEXIS and not find it on a single reputable source.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Jun 14, 06 9:23pm


You ken, when I come across a quote that seems rather unusual or especially provocative I do some research. If someone says it came from Newsweek, I go and search that particular issue. I don't take their word for it or the fact that several other websites say it was on Newsweek. WHY? Because at least 9 times out of 10, the quote is bogus.

You say you got this quote from that website. You know what? I did a google site search on that quote and it did not pull up that quote. Wow BIG SURPRISE.

I found the quote apparently came from a June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter. Of which I cannot find this issue. The quote is alleged. Show me the factual evidence that this is real. This had NOTHING to do with 9/11. What it appears to have something Iran/contra drug money, weapons transfers, etc. Basically the dirty work groups like the CIA do.

So ken... your quote is of yet: UNTRUE, UNVERIFIED.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Jun 14, 06 10:29pm

Ken, prove the quote is real and legitimate. I want the exact source provided. If you cannot do this, then your quote is a lie and you deserve negative karma - not me.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Jun 14, 06 10:31pm

I'm waiting.

Do your homework. Show me the source.

If you can't find it quickly, it shows you have been had - AGAIN.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Jun 15, 06 6:18am

Where is the source ken?? Do you believe everything you read on the internet?? If I saw a quote from Jesse Jackson on that site saying "we are all purple zebras", does that make it a real quote?

You don't know the first thing about research. Try again.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Jun 15, 06 1:33pm

You still can't provide the original source can you? Your evidence is all circular. You see a web site claiming it is true and you believe it? All I see is web site repeating the same quote. Saying it came from her does not prove it. I'll give you a hint. It is supposed to be from the June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter.

Have you found this yet?? I'm waiting. That is supposed to be the source. Do the homework.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Jun 15, 06 5:57pm

All I'm saying fiddle is this, I used the advanced search on Google, typed three relevant words, I think they were 'lynched', 'Bush' and 'McClendon' -(main), and I quote 'at least 760 results' came back, none of the initial 20 or so indicated that these words were of apocryphal or ambiguous origin, maybe it IS a myth, but the point is this - would you be surprised if he did say it? I know I and millions others wouldn't be!!! lol! (o:
by Ken_from_Dublin on Fri Jun 16, 06 5:57pm

Just because you haven't found the relevant newsletter on the internet means nothing, are any of her newsletters available on the internet? - the internet is incredible, but it is by no means an omniscient oracle of knowledge or reference, and the fact that you can't find the relevant newsletter is meaningless, it just means it ain't available on the internet!

It is after all 14 years old! - Are any of her newsletters available on the net? - I doubt it.

Show me a source where the distinguished journalist denies he said those words to her, if you can, and it's an impeccable source, I will accept that this quote is a myth.

Deal? "


"We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions--by abandoning every value except the will to power--they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies."
— George W. Bush, Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People, Sept. 20, 2001

We must be the change we wish to see in the world. M Gandhi


the projection of bush or the projection definiton?
or what??

Gore Vidal is really great

Gore Vidal is really great with words, he's got a fantastic vocabulary and really knows how to use it. I hope his comments about coup d´etat somehow pissed of Cockburn lol.

Vidal not a strong 9-11 Truth Advocate

I have heard Vidal on Alex Jones show one or two times. He never impresses me as being a serious intent 9-11 truth seeker. For some reason, the left wing intellectuals never focus on the hard core facts of 9-11 truth. They never seem to say much of anything.

In contrast, arch conservative Paul Craig Roberts, says some pretty strong things about 9-11 truth.

But still none of the U S Congress or Senate members are strongly pressing for 9-11 truth. That is such a hugh disappointment.

(Here's a little trivia about Gore Vidal. He and Jacky Kennedy had the same step father, Hugh Auchincloss. Also Gore Vidal is cousins with Al Gore.)

Blessings from Dachsie in Austin.

Dachsie, America has no

Dachsie, America has no Cicero, so we the people are standing in his place. This is actually a good thing since we are the only ones with the power to do the job, though this makes it a slow process.
It doesn't surprise me that no Senators or Representatives have stood up fully for this, after all, none stood up after JFK was assassinated, even his brother.

By a series of small actions, we can each do our part to gradually weaken the usurpers. This will end up being a life long fight for each of us, and the numbers who will rally to our cause, so we can't allow ourselves to be disappointed because no people in high positions are helping us. Disappointment at things like having no current people in power overtly helping us, while natural, must be avoided because it leads to the tone you end up finding in Gore Vidal's interview here. People in power won't help us until we put them there, and even then they may turn on us if we let them.

We need to have broad, far reaching goals, and a series of small steps that each of us can do individually or in groups to get us there over time. When we get knocked down we need to bounce back up, even more intent on victory.

gore is better than chumpsky

but I wonder IF he is a leftgatekeepr

Anonymous, your tone and

Anonymous, your tone and message in this post are really helpful. Thanks.

On another topic: does anyone know how a person gets 'verified' around here? I did register, but even so what I post is labeled 'unverified.' I don't mind too much. This is only my third post, and all I want is to have a few comments posted. But people keep saying that, eventually, unverified posting will no longer work at some point.

Case in point.

Thanks, Student07

I don't know what I think of

I don't know what I think of Gore Vidal. For someone who wants to see the Constitution, and the republic, restored so badly he doesn't seem to be cutting at the right threads that would tear of the veil of deceit. I haven't read most of his earlier work, though I'm getting to it, but has he always been this despondent? I have to imagine its from the years of seeing the lies, repeated over and over, from our government and it's press but I wonder if he realizes the impact he could have if, through the growing Internet press, he took a stronger stance.

I don't know. Perhaps he is putting in all the fight he has left at his age. I'll listen to what he has to say, turn it over and put it with the other things I've learned since I really started digging into this stuff. I certainly agree with his opinion on violent revolution.

We can all learn a great deal from Gore Vidal, though I wish he would/could do more to teach given the dark times we made for ourselves.

The end of The Project

For a New American Century. Can't say I'll miss ya.

They will try to regain

They will try to regain power....


Thanks for the article. Gore

Thanks for the article. Gore is right on about the 911 coup de tat.

FOr him to say its only the oil and gas interests seem rather narrow in my viewpoint. Its true that Cheney and Bush and COndi are oil people. So, there is definitely a lot of truth there. And Iraq has gobs of oil. BUT what about the private Federal Reserve who owns the oil and gas interests. Doesnt Rockefeller own a big chunk of Exxon and Rothschild .. and Queen Beatrix ... He seems to stop short of connecting 911 to the Bilderbergs and CFR and the leaders of these groups David Rockefeller ... So, its seems he sees the world in black and white, Is he hiding something here or is he just naive to the real players ? He doesn't even mention the possibility of rogue elements in the CIA and FBI and DIA and NRO and Mossad and MI5 and MI6 etc being in on 911. Maybe he is leaving it up to us to fill in the big picture as he gives the hints. We mustn't ever be tricked into thinking that a famous upper class writer is going to spoon feed us everything. We need to do our own homework primarily by READING lots and lots.

But at least Vidal sees the coup de tat and is willing to mention it. This makes him very noteworthy. I think this is kind of like a person who grew up in the Mafia and is able to say some true things about its nature publicly. Its a paradigm shift with guts.

This is infinitely better than cover up artist Chomsky, ie. another chimp, chimpsky.

I think Vidal's comments about Clinton were very off. He keeps defending Clinton. Clinton is a member of the CFR.

CFR members in the Clinton Administration, in the Special Group (Psychological Strategy Board) and in the Secret Team

I am awed at the number of CFR people in Clinton's administration. What is Gore thinking ???!!!!! I think GOre has stuck his head in the sand.

Gore even says himself that under Clintons watch the patriot act was written. How could anyone praise Clinton. It seems Gore should of taken some logic classes. For example, how could Clinton be a good president if the patriot act was written on his watch. Waco, Trade center (1993) and Oklahoma bombing events happened on his watch. Did we get real investigations into these. The bombings in Yugoslavia was another imperialist campaign on his watch. This was for the new world order. He has done nothing to expose the private Federal Reserve etc. Clinton is another puppet. A polished eloquent puppet but still a puppet. Although he must have done something right because they wanted to impeach him for anything even the swallowing of a gnat which they tried to nail him on. So, I don't have all the facts but mostly I believe he was a puppet.

I think his comments about Roosevelt being the greatest president were way off. Roosevelt never tackled the Federal Reserve. I have read Roosevelt was owned by the bankers. He was their choice. Hell, we got the new deal under Roosevelt but the bankers caused the 1933 depression. I think you you could say Roosevelt was one of the least worst presidents. All the 20th century presidents past 1910 have been bad except Kennedy. And Roosevelt brought us into WW 2. He made the decision against the huge percentage, 80% of Americans, that did not want to enter WW 2. Who died and made him God ? ANd look at the result of his decision. We now have a military run amuck and the rest you already know. HOw could Gore say he was the greatest president. Again, Gore seems to say ridiculous things. Lets not praise him too much. Lets not praise him with a wide brush. But only give him credit in the things he is right about while realizing he doesn't have it all right.

To me the greatest president times one thousand was JF Kennedy. And Gore on some other website said he was the worst president. Kennedy was in the motions of stopping the Federal Reserve money printing, starving the Military Industrial Complex, disbanding the CIA, getting out of Vietnam. Even if JFK played golf and partied every weekend in Vegas the things he was opposing were the big items and the heart of America's problems. For Gore to say it was the Mafia that killed him might have been correct. But who hired the Mafia to do the hit. There were others with huge interests in knocking him off. How could a scholar say the Mafia did it and leave it at that. What a joke.

Watch the movie 13 days, about the Cuba missile crisis. JFKennedy and his advisors were brilliant.

A side note;

I am not sure why 911Blogger has this 0,1,2,3... point system. It is a distraction. It reminds me of a teacher giving A, B, C, Ds and Fs. I don't like it. It would be nice if 911 blogger would allow in its user configuration this be toggeled on or off. Sure maybe some people need some direction as to what is more truthful

I do like the warnings about the trolls and do like that we are able to read them if we want to.

PLEASE GIVE ME A ZERO because I don't want to think I am writing this to get points.

Group pressure and the need for group praise and acceptance are the roots of most evils.

I hope he comes on board

I hope he comes on board with 9/11 Truth. Don't know much about him, but he's got a cool sounding famous type name, Gore Vidal. Gore Vidal, 9/11 Tuther. It's got a nice ring to it.