Madsen has a good insight re- Russian-Israeli involvement in 9-11...

...and possible efforts to divert attention of the 911Truth movement from it. I was told that this is a valuable thing for 911 Blogger regs. to see. Wayne Madsen is not to be discounted, given his long history with the Intelligence world, and I find him to be on the cutting edge of information pertaining to BushCo chicanery, international "terrorism" events, etc.

Here is the paragraph from today's entry, which can be found and bookmarked at www.waynemadsenreport.com...

"WMR can also report that there is a significant penetration of the so-called "9/11 Truth" movement by elements funded and supported by the Russian-Israeli Mafia and its supporters in the Bush administration and U.S. media. The reason for the penetration is primarily to deter the movement from looking at the role of the Russian-Israeli Mafia in the terrorist attacks and ensuring that more far out disinformation theories are accepted as credible explanations for the systematic and coordinated "failures" of the U.S. air defense, air traffic control, law enforcement, immigration, and intelligence systems."

Styve

Great piece by Raimondo on Antiwar.com on the Litvinenko hit, and Berezovsky's ties to the R-I mob...
http://antiwar.com/justin?articleid=10228

"The reason for the

"The reason for the penetration is primarily to deter the movement from looking at the role of the Russian-Israeli Mafia in the terrorist attacks and ensuring that more far out disinformation theories are accepted as credible explanations for the systematic and coordinated "failures" of the U.S. air defense, air traffic control, law enforcement, immigration, and intelligence systems."

"looking at"

"The movement" cannot be deterred from "looking at" the Russian-Israeli Mafia, because the movement does not have subpoena power or the other powers that at true independent 911 commission would have to truly "look at" any and every hypothesis.

"more far out disinformation theories"

Madsen himself is acting as a disinfo by his choice of these words. It is most UNscientific to just throw out alternative ideas and hypotheses because someone says they are "more far out".

Yes, the 9-11 truth movement has been infiltrated as ALL movements are infiltrated. Yes, diversions and set-up rabbit trails are part of that game, however I do not trust Madsen to be truly concerned about what the 9-11 truth movement should or should not do.

I do not appreciate the way Madsen wrote about 30 stories on his site about the PageGate and FoleyGate matter and put forth ideas how it was an endemic widespread and longstanding moral diseases within the Congress and "inside the beltway" in general. If there was truth to his claims, he should not have and would not have dropped from writing at all about this homosexual/pedophilia story so suddenly. I think the fact that he did that shows him to just be motivated by the goals of "things left", especially U.S. Democrat party interests. That rules out his value as a truly objective investigative journalist, though I do admit he does have journalism skills and pertinent and potentially very helpful employment experience.

Blessings from Dachsie in Austin.

Wayne can be rather frustratingly enigmatic.

That paragraph is a bit opaque. "More far out disinformation theories" sounds familiar, but he seems to be pointing to theories explaining the failures of defense entities that day, rather than the space beam stuff we all know and love, that pertains to the physical destruction. So what are the "far-out" theories that misleadingly explain the stand-down that day?

When he released...

A story about people suffering from radiation at Ground Zero, I pretty much gave up on Wayne.

And I was one of his biggest advocates.


The Time For Debate Is Over

Why...

... don't you want to know about the radiation victims of 9/11? Are they not worthy of your compassion? Do they not deserve justice?

There was no nuclear explosion at Ground Zero.

I remember that, straight to

I remember that, straight to the disinfo bookmark folder...

WMR can report that, but is it true?

What evidence is there of involvement in 9/11 of the "Russian-Israeli Mafia."

How is the Russian-Israeli Mafia a more "credible explanation for the systematic and coordinated 'failures' of the U.S. air defense, air traffic control, law enforcement, immigration, and intelligence systems"?

What theories are "disinformation" and "far out"?

Who is an agent of the "Russian-Israeli Mafia"?

What are Madsen's sources?

I need a lot more before I take claims like this seriously.

Please...read his site before you ask random questions...

Admittedly, the "far-out" choice of words was foolish, but asking scattershot questions and expecting people to indulge your efforts at obfuscation is more foolish. Read up on Berezovsky, Victor Bout, and Neil Bush's involvement with both. And, why should anyone care what you take seriously when you hide behind an anonymous handle?!

Styve

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest." - Benjamin Franklin

Answer, or don't

I asked good questions, Skyve, in an attempt at clarification, not obfuscation.

To clarify one of my questions, who in the 9/11 truth movement is Madsen accusing of being an agent of the Russian-Israeli Mafia?

The other questions are straightforward -- what far out, disinfo theories take away from what more credible explanations, and how?

Although you said my opinion does not matter because I am posting anonymously, I took the time to read
Madsen's website.

I found articles about Neil Bush and Berezovsky at Madsen's website. As far as I can tell the link between Berezovsky, a Russian mobster with Israeli citizenship, Neil Bush, and 9/11 is this:

Supposedly Clinton could have killed Bin Laden but called it off because United Arab Emirates sheiks were hunting in the area, and they have done business with Neil Bush's company, and so has Berezovsky, who met with Neil Bush in Riga.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/2005_08250925.php

Berezovsky is also mentioned here:

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/2006_11231130.php

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/2006_11301214.php

I don't get it. Please explain. Neil Bush has been using his family connections to sell education software, which is likely a crime against children's minds, but is not evidence of complicity in 9/11.

All this sounds like back door support for story that Al Qaeda did 9/11.

Odd coincidence.

After puzzling over this idea of disinfo theories regarding a stand-down, I finally had a chance to read the Chomsky mega-thread, in which someone is very persistently trying to blame the Jesuits for 9/11. Just sayin'.

Litvenenko: curiouser and curiouser

Thanks for the update with the Anti-War.com article. That story just gets more bizarre the more it unravels. I remember Webster Tarpley saying, a couple of weeks back, that Putin was totally being framed.