Even 'debunking' articles can have a good effect

This explanatory post is long. The salient point is that even bad 9-11 articles can have a good effect. See below.

In my case, for some reason I knew on the day of 9-11 that that airliner was shot down over Shanksville. A friend of mine was in the Air Force. He had no doubt at all about it, on that day. But I thought the explosives idea was just nutty -- that bombs or whatever took down the WTC buildings.

Then -- pretty recently, really -- there was an article on Alternet debunking 9-11 'conspiracies.' By someone named Matt something. I read the comments to that editorial, to see what kind of people would believe the conspiracies. In the comments someone praised the video 9-11 Mysteries. I downloaded that, based on the person's praise of it.

God, what an amazing turnaround. The implications still just amaze me.

I now really hope that every last detail of this horror gets exposed -- every plan, every player in the mess, every stooge.

But I also believe the aftermath of that will be no smaller than the Civil War, once all this is known, or even some of the major pieces of it. I say, bring it on since, just like with the Civil war, we will not have a country worth living in, if this truth stays hidden. If it stays hidden we will resemble the Third Reich in most fundamentals. At present we already do, IMO. But we can get back on track, if this gets exposed, again IMO.

By the way, Alternet and other so-called left-leaning news sources really depress me these days. They aren't any bgetter than right-leaning sources. And the middle stinks too. Only the internet works. (Watch 'them' try to kill it therefore.)

Who has the courage and the decency to actually look at evidence? Not the left. Does the right either? 9-11 truth transcends that divide. Liberals and conservatives, Dems and Repubs, all look basically the same, on this topic, which is more important than any other in our generation.

(I posted this same item as a comment on the poll that dz posted, asking when we became 9-11 active. I propose that 911blogger post it here too, as an intro to my blog.

(BTW: These posts are almost my only 'activism,' so far. But I do have a few acquaintances in high positions, who will receive info and questions from me soon.)

Agree and disagree

Good post. I agree with the idea that getting the idea out there is at least a start, whether it's 'positive' or 'negative' coverage. It's planting seeds in people's minds, to get them to question and think for themselves.

I disagree with the aftermath being as bad/worse than the Civil War, though. A lot of this information is out there, +80% don't buy Bush's version, and Bush and Cheney are about as popular as lung cancer right now. Yet the country still functions.

I think it will be a slow change, back to the funamentals of domestic politics, anti-globalisation, environmentalism and anti-militarism, and perhaps even isolationism to a certain extent.

However it should our goal and that of every American to hold the Union together and fight for what we truly stand for - the Constitution - and not a criminal administration.

Reality got you down? Read the La Rochelle Times: http://www.rochelletimes.blogspot.com

A dark view; too pessemistic?

Thanks, Monsieur. I guess I have a dark view of those at the top. I have a feeling they would not stop at much -- given what they have already done. Why not a military coup, if that would keep them out of prison? And wouldn't a coup lead to a divided military? Those were my thoughts -- dark, I admit. But I do suppose that people should consider these sorts of outcomes. Again, I believe 011 exposure is worth that risk -- again, just like the Civil War.

I see nothing wrong with

I see nothing wrong with isolationism.

This entire country used to run on tariffs... there were no taxes.

Everything we need here.... we can make here.... If you want something that you can not get here.... you pay for it.

If a company has a market here and they want to lower their prices... then they move their company here... solved.

this will keep the people... the tax money... the jobs and the income here in the US.

it may cost more to produce.... but if the money all stays here... the money will be there to buy the products that we produce. Globalism creates competative prices but these companies are leeching off the weakest people in the world.... basicly enslaving them.... then putting the profits in their pockets.... when these people want a decent wage... they simply move to the next country desperate for work.

Globalism is no good for the world.

we have given these corporations the capital they need to build factories anywhere they want. If other countries adopted a similar isolationist stance.... they would all be much better off as well.

Dear Student

Congradulations on your ability to look,and decide
for yourself.
This is all us truthers want.So the question is.What do you do now?
Pass it on to friends ,and families.Don't push it,just point them in the direction to look ,and let them decide for themselves.

Sending 9/11 Info to Media and Legislators Is Not Spam

{{{{ Below is a current sample of a compilation I send to media and legislators and other "opinion makers" etc. I'm placing it here and at other forums, comment places, etc. in the hope that some who have the time and inclination will do something similar. (Hopefully a lot of people are ALREADY doing something like this.)

I recommend people consider sending their own unique compilations, on a regular, updated basis, to as many legislators (state and/or federal), and media as they can handle.

I am able to send to a list of around 1500 approximately once a week. One of the easiest ways to accumulate such a list is by using congress.org . Their government lists are easy to find and use. Their media lists are also extensive, and can be found far down the left side index. One can concentrate on one's own state, or go nationwide.

Once one gets one's list(s) into one's address book and one's message in draft, the mailing, while time-consuming (especially with dial-up), is "automatic pilot," allowing one to keep up on Air America or whatever, while visions of firing squads dance in one's head.

Ha Ha Just kidding about "firing squads." Sort of.}}}}


Post proofs that brotherhood is not so wild a dream as those who profit by postponing it pretend....
~~Norman Corwin



From YES!Magazine
Winter 2007 Issue: Go Local!

Local Energy, Local Power
by Winona LaDuke

Tribes lead the way to energy democracy with local control of renewable production


Politically Correct or Factually Correct About 9/11

I have decided on a New Year resolution. I am going to stop beating around the bush (no pun intended) when it comes to the events of 9/11. I have seen enough to know for a fact that the official explanation about 9/11 is a crock and that most of the evidence indicates that it was an inside job.

In the past I have refrained from openly discussing this in some circles because I wanted to avoid getting into uncomfortable social situations. But I have now decided that I am the one who is made to feel uncomfortable when 9/11 is referred to as defined by the official story.

I have learned many things about the event. I have also learned that when I tell people about some of these facts more often than not they listen. I have learned that information is more powerful than personal opinion and I am armed with a lethal amount of information where it comes to 9/11.

From now on, regardless of the venue, when the issue is raised I am going to speak my mind....


Where Are The Bodies?

DEAD PEOPLE DON'T TALK. And people say that 9/11 couldn’t possibly be an inside job because “someone would talk.” Not if they were rounded up in the big CIA disappearances in the DAYS after 9/11. They lost no time at all rounding up people. Anyone who could have provided information is dead now. Bank on it.


"Progressive" Pundits:

[The writer of this review focuses on the lethal CAREERISM of the Neo-cons and Neo-liberals; but the craven careerist hacks embeded in some of the most influential "progressive" media are at least as dangerous to our democracy:
David Corn of The Nation magazine, for instance, is currently RUNNING AN AD on Air America Radio frantically urging us to leave off questioning the Bush regime's account of 9/11 (even though scientific polls clearly show that only SIXTEEN PERCENT of Americans accept that account!), and to banish impeachment from our thoughts!
Some of the others who are advancing their careers by helping the Neo-cons and the Neo-libs to squelch questioning and investigation of their crimes:

Alexander Cockburn of counterpunch@counterpunch.com , Ed Schultz of ed@edschultzshow.com , The Young Turks of theyounturk@yahoo.com .

Then there is the new "democratic" site http://www.buzzflash.net which with great fanfare advertises that its readers can vote on its articles for importance and relevance -- but anything having to do with 9/11 or anything the least bit critical of the Israeli government is instantly deleted from the site! Karl Rove could learn from these people.

And we must not forget to include in this list of treachery the grand old man of Manufacturing Consent himself: Noam Chomsky, diligently manufacturing cover-up for the most dangerous regime in US history!]

Vol. 29 No. 1 dated 4 January 2007

by Corey Robin

"....Many people believe that great crimes come from terrible ideas: Marxism, racism and Islamic fundamentalism gave us the Gulag, Auschwitz and 9/11. It was the singular achievement of [Hannah Arendt's book] EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM, however, to remind us that the worst atrocities often arise from the simplest of vices. And few vices, in Arendt's mind, were more vicious than careerism. 'The East is a career,' Disraeli wrote. And so was the Holocaust, according to Arendt. 'What for Eichmann was a job, with its daily routine, its ups and downs, was for the Jews quite literally the end of the world.' Genocide, she insisted, is work. If it is to be done, people must be hired and paid; if it is to be done well, they must be supervised and promoted.

"Eichmann was a careerist of the first order. He had 'no motives at all', Arendt insisted, 'except for an extraordinary diligence in looking out for his personal advancement'. He joined the Nazis because he saw in them an opportunity to 'start from scratch and still make a career', and 'what he fervently believed in up to the end was success.' Late in the war, as Nazi leaders brooded in Berlin over their impending fate and that of Germany, Eichmann was fretting over superiors' refusing to invite him to lunch. Years later, he had no memory of the Wannsee ['final solution'] Conference, but clearly remembered bowling with senior officials in Slovakia.

"....Most modern theorists, from Montesquieu to the American Framers to Hayek, have considered ambition and careerism to be checks against, rather than conduits of, oppression and tyranny....

"The main reason for the contemporary evasion of Arendt's critique of careerism, however, is that addressing it would force a confrontation with the dominant ethos of our time. In an era when capitalism is assumed to be not only efficient but also a source of freedom, the careerist seems like the agent of an easy-going tolerance and pluralism. Unlike the ideologue, whose great sin is to think too much and want too much from politics, the careerist is a genial caretaker of himself. He prefers the marketplace to the corridors of state power. He is realistic and pragmatic, not utopian or fanatic. That careerism may be as lethal as idealism, that ambition is an adjunct of barbarism, that some of the worst crimes are the result of ordinary vices rather than extraordinary ideas: these are the implications of EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM that neo-cons and neoliberals alike find too troubling to acknowledge."


Esteemed Professor and Law Expert Warns Of Police State
Francis A Boyle says 9/11 was allowed to happen, war on terror is facilitating the downfall of The Republic, concentration camps are in place and US citizens are the targets



Report rebukes FBI over Okla. City probe
By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The FBI failed to fully investigate information suggesting other suspects may have helped Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols with the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, allowing questions to linger more than a decade after the deadly attack, a congressional inquiry concludes.


From the current issue of THE WASHINGTON FREE PRESS:

Does the World Trade Center Study Add Up?

by Rodger Herbst

[Numbered references appear at end of this article.]

....why did the building disintegrate into dust?

....The study does not attempt to explain why much of the mass of the building vaporized into fine dust....

....The NIST investigation also omitted or distorted many important aspects of the collapses, including movement of the WTC1 antenna before the adjacent facade, the pyroclastic dust clouds, and pools of molten metal In the WTC basements weeks after the attacks....

....The NIST study is a product of the Bush administration. An enumeration of the inconsistencies of the NIST study is consistent with a long standing and well documented pattern of Bush administration abuse of the scientific method.

The House Committee on Government Reform found "numerous instances where this Administration has manipulated the scientific process and distorted or suppressed scientific findings."

On February 18, 2004, over 60 leading scientists, including Nobel laureates, signed a statement that "The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease". Since then, over 9000 additional scientists and engineers have signed on. [7]

A clear example of distortion of scientific knowledge was seen in the subsequent declaration by EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman that the "air is safe" in Manhattan a week after the attacks. In fact, according to top scientists, the air at Ground Zero was highly corrosive, and a "significant threat to health." The White House Council on Environmental Quality directed the EPA to edit the scientific findings "based on how it should be released publicly."[8]....

[Rodger Herbst has a bachelor degree in Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering and a master degree in Mechanical Engineering.]


The NIST 911 Report On The World Trade Center Collapse
By Mark H. Gaffney


9/11 Signs of The 9/11 Times

"I'm going to keep pushing WTC 7 until I have little kids saying:

"'Mommy, what's WTC 7 mean?'...

"If any of you have any ideas for signs, let me know.

"I'm hoping that these signs will help me recruit for the local 9/11 study and activist groups that I will be starting in the new year...."



Dam Breaks On 9/11 Truth
Lynch and Brolin re-focus attention, will more Hollywood personalities follow in their footsteps?

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, December 7, 2006

Two more major influential Hollywood stars using their fame to attract attention to 9/11 truth proves the dam is breaking and....



Michael Keefer on Alex Cockburn's anti-9/11 skeptic stance.

Into the Ring with Counterpunch on 9/11: How Alexander Cockburn, Otherwise So Bright, Blanks Out on 9/11 Evidence



William Rodriguez Featured in Devon Newspaper and Interviewed on BBC Bristol

Hero of 9/11 Won't Stop Speaking Out Against Bush

One minute he was going about his business, the next he was looking at a vision from the depths of hell. Still reeling from a blast which rocked the World Trade Center, William Rodriguez could hardly believe what he was seeing."A man came running into the office shouting 'explosion, explosion!'" Mr Rodriguez soon saw a third of his body had been badly burnt by the blast. "When I realised, I started screaming. I looked at his face and it was missing parts."

It was the start of a day that transformed Mr Rodriguez from a maintenance man to the hero of 9/11...


Barrett: Academic freedom is good policy

(Barrett is a part-time lecturer at UW- Madison.)
Wisconsin State Journal

In the former Soviet Union, the monopoly media acted as cheerleader for a brutal, repressive government. Dissident academics were silenced, fired, or institutionalized.

For two or three years after 9/11, our media served as a megaphone for Bush administration lies, and academics were intimidated into silence....

....The excuse that my position is marginal no longer holds, given that only 16 percent of the American people believe the government is telling the truth about 9/11 (New York Times poll) and 36 percent of Americans, and half of New Yorkers, believe top US officials conspired to commit mass murder and high treason on 9/11 (Scripps-Howard and Zogby polls).

It is long past time for a rational, evidence-based debate on the facts and meaning of 9/11. Any takers?



Fewer people are believing the official reports on September 11 attacks:



There is help for you!

If you are among the 16% who still believe the Neonazicons' conspiracy theory about 9/11, YOU CAN BE HELPED! Simply click on the links below to read the scientific debunking of the Bush pseudoscience fairytale about the WTC 9/11 atrocity.




[Cindy Rodriguez's column below is the most truthful and objective report on 9/11 investigation that Some Of The Above News has so far seen in the mainstream media.

Read entire column:




Literary giant says 9/11 allowed to happen, slams Bush administration coup de'tat of American freedom


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