Here's my completed analysis of the famous Diagonally cut column, this includes the famous debunkers photo of a Ground Zero Worker cutting a column supposedly the same way. Since there are too many photos involved, I've only uploaded the 3 most relevant photos. I'm forced to link to the paper instead of posting directly since the analysis also includes 6 images from my study of the USGS thermal images from September 16th and 23rd, 2001 which I show how easy it was for them to fake the September 23rd picture which falsely claims that the smoldering fires were mostly extinguished by then when we know from testimonies that this was not true until mid December.


The text is included below, but you need to follow the link to see all the relevant photos.

If you are an experienced torch cutter, light or heavy metal doesn’t matter, the principles are much the same. There are several facts that indicate it was not a torch cut:

1. No cut from a torch accumulates that much hanging slag. Most slag is blown away; this volume would indicate melting with abundant, directed heat but with little or no air pressure eliminating blow torch possibility.
2. Slag cools too quickly. To drip that long, with the beam itself vertical, that much slag would separate and fall to the ground, and would never drip that far even with that bad a cut. The suggested explanation of Thermate with no air pressure at a much higher temperature would account for this.
3. No experienced torch cutter would take a diagonal cut on 4” thick steel tube. And why would even an inexperienced one do so? There would be no possible reason to do it where a horizontal cut is possible, even if above the cut was bent in the direction towards the lower horizontal cut. And the upper horizontal cut can be seen to be cut also on a downward angle thru the steel. No one would angle from horizontal on 4” thick steel and increase the cut to 5 or 6” thick.
4. No one would cut on an angle thinking that it will cause a standing structure to fall a certain direction, just ask any lumberjack.
5. Any metal cutter would also question why the rear cut is not a straight line and it dips drastically in one spot, this indicates possibly the remains of a round cut which would allow inserting Thermate charges inside of the tube to conceal them (more on this regarding the second photo).
6. Someone implied to me that the cutter would have his hand inside the tube cutting the last horizontal leg to explain the slag on the lower horizontal cut. Impossible, that would mean that 3 legs were cut, and then the beam bent so he could reach inside? You would see evidence of the bend if it was bent before final cutting, and you would see evidence of bending at the conclusion of the cut as the weight takes control. Highly unlikely, and there would be few experienced heavy gauge metal cutters who would agree with the torch cut theory.

This photo has been posted by 9/11 debunkers that supposedly shows a torch cutter making the same diagonal tube cut. This photo either proves that a torch cutter is performing the operation of cutting the column or, he is tasked with completing the cut that wasn’t successful during the demolition:

1. If he started the cut on the right side, why didn’t he finish it? I would say it’s because he’s been assigned the task finishing a cut that was mysteriously ½ done for some reason, maybe thermate that didn’t complete the cut? If there were hundreds of such planted “melts” thru ought the building, its possible that there was an error factor of some that would not burn correctly, but not enough of a percentage to prevent or slow the buildings collapse, except maybe points right near the ground that were basically protected once debri filled in around them. What else supports this?
2. I’ve marked the photo wondering what these other burns are? Did the cutter start on the left top, then decide to move to the bottom, then decide, “Oh, I guess I’ll start on this one over here instead”? And why did he not remove the aluminum façade on the 2 burn attempts on the left tube? Such as on the right one?
3. Given the acrid yellow smoke, it is clearly not steel that is being cut by the worker. Galvanized steel or aluminum burns yellow, steel burns white as shown in the 3rd photo which is a 24” cut of steel which burns white as it most always does (photo source http://www.opetrol.com/gallery.html). Even the burn stains on the aluminum cuts on the right, color match the acrid smoke being produced by the cut work on the left. So it looks to me like the cutter is simply finishing the cutting away of the aluminum façade which is evidently cut away on the far right of the photo to expose the steel hidden beneath it.
4. Aluminum doesn’t cut with an acetylene torch it simply melts and gets blown away by the air pressure. A plasma cutter is the preferred method of cutting aluminum and gives off blue/white sparks and smoke. This worker is most likely using torches he may have on the platform since his task is to cut the heavy beams beneath the aluminum (a Plasma cutter needs electricity). The jagged, unclean edge of the cut aluminum on the right side supports this. A plasma cutter would not leave this kind of edge or yellow smoke or stain.
5. Façade on the outside only so the steel cut in photo 2 indicates cut angled from inside to outside of the building. If the evidence of a possible hole in photo 1 on the high backside indicates where thermate could be installed on the inside of the tube, then the operation would mean they could do this just about anywhere inside the building and covered up by simply repairing sheetrock walls after insertion.
6. The testimony from this iron worker would solve some of this mystery, but without his testimony to confirm otherwise, the facts show that he is clearly making ready to finish cuts that didn’t succeed on their own.
7. Additional supporting evidence includes molten steel found in the rubble for 12 weeks after 9/11. To date, only thermate explains this, the government provides no explanation for this and a lack of evidence is as important is factual evidence.

Below are several pairs of USGS (US Geological Survey) thermal images.
The first pair of thermal images are from Sept 16th and its subsequent photo that implied the hot spots were gone by Sept 23, notice anything strange?

The discoloration from one photo to the next is oddly different as if the color levels have been altered. With the testimony from many fire fighters and workers that the smoldering was not extinguished until mid-December, the color shift in the second image suggests that it was modified. I myself drove my Manhattan on November 7th, 2001, and the site was still smoldering.

Looking at the 2nd pair of images, this is the Sept 16th image modified by the author with Paint Shop Pro (inset not touched), to replicate the USGS Sept 23rd image on the right, proving the ease in modifying the images.

The 3rd pair of images includes the original Sept 16th image on the left, and the image on the right, modified to look authentic with the hot spots removed (inset not touched).
This implies that the individual(s) responsible for falsifying the Sept 23rd thermal image, didn’t even do as good job at it as they could of.

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Debunker photo...

The thing that gets me with the debunker photo is what part of the building is this? Why is he cutting THIS beam before the horizontal beam above his head. Looks like it will tumble on top of him if he completes the cut.

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Cit to fit on trucks

Most likely, before the cuts are completed, a crane would be secured above (may be there already but not evident in the photo) to lower the piece onto the ground once cut loose.

Central Mass 911 Truth Alliance

at first glace...

4. No one would cut on an angle thinking that it will cause a standing structure to fall a certain direction, just ask any lumberjack.

i believe you're mistaken here. this is exactly how you cut down a tree so that it falls in a particular direction. you notch cut it at an angle, creating a wedge and then make a second cut and, if done correctly, the tree will fall in the direction of the angled wedge cut.

read all about it at http://forestry.about.com/od/chainsaws/ss/fell_tree.htm


Sorry.... but if you made the same cut every ten feet up the tree.... alternating from one side to the other every ten feet up the tree..... when the tree fell it would fall nearly straight down.....

that is if you could get all the cuts to act at virtually the same time..... could be done with explosives.

If the Towers had fallen sideways into the city.... New York would be gone right now.

the subsequent fires would have most likely consumed a good part of the city...... there are nowhere near enough firefighters or equimpment to stop that type of fallout.

They wanted this to be big..... but they wanted to involve as few insurance companies and lawyers as possible


but if you made the same cut every ten feet up the tree.... alternating from one side to the other every ten feet up the tree..... when the tree fell it would fall nearly straight down.....

this isn't the argument i am trying to make nor the discussion i am trying to extend, but simply point out an error in Larry's original analysis. but to expand on your comment, again, you're wrong. have many trees have a fell? a good lumberjack has more or less, complete control of which direction the tree will fall. by notching and angle cutting wedges, one can control with much degree of accuracy which direction the tree will fall. hell, when they teach this shit, dudes actually place cans on the ground and try to hit them with the fallen tree. thats how good they are.

They wanted this to be big..... but they wanted to involve as few insurance companies and lawyers as possible

it was big, but your wrong about the insurance companies. AIG/Marsh sold their claims on WTC to reinsurance policies to smaller insurance companies. there were many insurance companies who got caught holding partial claims on WTCs, which were sold to them by AIG/Marsh. this is extensively expanded upon the Richard Groove of 911sychroncity.com and by Ty Rauber of wkjo.com or Who Killed John O'Neil. i recommend you examine their analysis regarding reinsurance policies and the events of 9/11

just like a tree?


With the broadening of satellite navigation systems into the private sector, the world-wide Omega Navigation System, built in the 1970’s to aid maritime navigation, became obsolete. Under agreement with the Argentine Naval Hydrographic Service Center, the U.S. Naval Facilities Command in San Bruno, California, entered into a contract with National Steel Erectors/Tower Inspection, Inc. (NSE) of Muskogee, Oklahoma, for the salvage of certain equipment and the demolition/removal of the tower, its top-hat array and stays, without damage to the helix house located just 25’ away from the tower’s base.

Aided in the structural analysis and structural design of the project by Tryck Nyman Hayes, Inc. of Kingston, Washington, NSE hydraulically jacked the tower up against the balanced tension of the stays, removed the base insulator, inserted a steel and concrete surrogate insulator and lowered the tower back down. Two (2) weeks earlier, NSE had engaged CDI to design a plan to fell the 1,202’-6” tall structure without damage to the helix house 25’ away.

Operating under severe time constraints, CDI was unable to ship U.S.-made linear shaped charges for the project. A CDI representative flew to Buenos Aires where the local explosives supplier had expressed confidence in their ability to melt and pour pentolite explosives in CDI furnished copper sheathing to a density specification provided by CDI.

After National completed salvage of the base insulator, helix house bushing and other U.S. Navy-specified equipment, CDI successfully tested several of the Argentinean-made charges against cable linkages isolated by prior lowering of all but four of the top-hat radials. With those successful tests, CDI placed the Argentinean charges to sever links to free two of the remaining four top-hat radials, and the five structural cable stays on one side of the tower.

On detonation, the Argentinean charges cleanly severed linkages for the top-hat radials and lower four structural guys. However, unobservable bubbles in the center of the charges used on the 5th level guy interrupted formation of the penetrating jet, yielding incomplete severance. The resultant release of the tower above and below the 5th guy produced an almost vertical collapse of the tower resulting in a fall area of steel much smaller than would have been used had the structure fell its full height with release of all of the structural guys.

Inadvertently, and without damage to the helix house, a far more aggressive means of felling large guyed towers was demonstrated. Subsequent analysis of the structural release sequence of the guys has yielded predictable data which CDI intends to use in the felling of large, cable-stayed towers in the future.

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Horizontal cuts

Your reference to felling a tree in a certain direction is idrected by the direction the cut starts from, not the angle of the cut. In other words, for the diagonal cut to be proposed for the reason of directing the fall of the beam when cut, why would it have not worked with a horizontal cut as well? Making it diagonal has no additional affect on direction of fall.

Central Mass 911 Truth Alliance

restated again...

4. No one would cut on an angle thinking that it will cause a standing structure to fall a certain direction, just ask any lumberjack.

these is my original beef with your statement here. this is wrong. making a wedge shaped cut into a tree is how a lumberjack can control which direction a tree falls.

Making it diagonal has no additional affect on direction of fall.

then you better tell that to your lumberjack buddies, because this is exactly how they can control the direction a tree will fall. basic physics at work here, going back to lever and fulcrum stuff here. horizontal cuts don't control the direction of the fall because a horizontal cut is not acting as a fulcrum-- you create a wedged angle cut when cutting down a tree, subsequently acting as a fulcrum, and controlling the direction of the tree fall.


charges ARE placed on angles to allow internal collapses.

thermite charges

could you please extend your comment with any links relating to thermite charges you might have? i'd be curious to know where you learned that thermite charges are placed at angles for internal collapses. thanks and best regards.

Angled charges

The suggestion that charges are placed at angles is a demolition tactic. It doesn't refer directly to thermate, but refers to the placement of any explosive used in this demolition task.

Central Mass 911 Truth Alliance


i have seem demolition charges placed in such a way on television programs devoted to controlled demolition of buildings. but my question, in particular, was related to thermite demolition charges.

in the interest of research, i am seeking any links illustrating thermite cutter charges used in demolition. furthermore, i'd be happy with any links illustrating thermite use in demolition. if anyone has such links, please post them. thanks.

Dear Larry

As i've said before.I am a welder fabricator with 30 years experence.Yes i agree that the photo raises questions,but it is not rock solid proof.
Cutting steel this thick with a torch takes a slow travel speed.Obviously in demo your not concerned with the quality of the cut.On light gage metal 1/8 inch and under(for salvage) The torch head is sharply angled in the traveled direction.This is not the case on the WTC core columns.
Iam guessing that the columns were 4 inches thick.If you are familar with the steel trade you would know a torch would be poor choice because of how slow the cut would have to be.A burning bar or lance would do the job alot faster.
Yes the diagonaled cut,and the angled grooves make a strong point.Also you do get alot of slag when cutting steel this thick,however on a tubular column ALL the slag would be on the INSIDE! Except were you had to blow through to start the cut. Ask any welder if they would like to start a blow through cut on a 4 inch piece of steel,and i would bet a thousand dollars the answer would be no 100% of the time.
Once the steel reaches temp.and the oxygen lever is pressed there is no where for it to go except back in your face.
In looking at the photo Larry i agree with you that it looks suspicious.
I believe it was a cutter charge placed on an angle.The moon shape on the back side was probally due to sagging in the cord.
I've see guys wire buildings,and i've seen pictures on the web,both where the cutter charges are positioned on angles.
This allows the beam to column to kick in or implode.

Agreed that there are other

Agreed that there are other choices for cutting 4" thick steel. The analysis goal was to disprove that this was done with any kind of air pressured, cutting tool. Should I include mention of burning bar? I intend to fine tune this before submitting to evidence sites.

I still would expect, other than the spot blown directly thru (I would blow at an angle to reflect away from my face), that most any slag on a vertical face that dripped would drop mostly to the floor. The drips seem more like they are to long and maybe fed by constant melting like the growing of a stalagmite (tite?).

Do you not feel that the second photo which reveals incomplete burns below the aluminum facade, supports that the diagonal cuts were not produced by GZ workers? I conclude that this worker is exposing a hidden burn to complete and remove that portion of wall as evidenced that he is removing aluminum, to prepare for completing the cuts, not initially making the cut.

Central Mass 911 Truth Alliance

Dear Larry

If i had to use a torch to cut these columns .Using a #4
tip,i would start at corner.Angling the tip to wash away
some of the thickness before trying to blow through.
Yes ,i would look into if they used burning bars at the site.
I would like to add there is NO reason for an angled cut,it just does'nt make sence.
Yes this is for direction controll,(explosives)but in this case
a crane with a strap (choker) would have been attached to the column before the cut was started.
It would be a SQUARE CUT! To imply that an angled cut was used to drop the beam a certian way is absurd.
Yes it can be added to all the other justifiable unanswered questions,But it's not rock solid proof.