Kucinich Says I am Listening, Present Me the Material on 9/11


Dennis Kucinich says:

"I am listening carefully"

"Present me the information/evidence on 911"

www.sst911.org (Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth)

Dennis Kucinich is a good man

He has been leading the way to the extent that he can.

Lets continue to build popular support.


Tomorrow I will reach out to more people.



I Agree

Kucinich is really the only viable candidate.

Considering there are a minimum of about 100 Million people in this country that are fully aware of 9/11 truth and know that this administration is guilty of Treason, War Crimes, Crimes against humanity, mass murder.

If just 1/2 of us voted for Kucinich he would win.

The mainstream media would freak out

Remember, Kerry won the popular vote.

"If just 1/2 of us voted for Kucinich he would win."

Not quite. It matters more where those people live than the number of them.

Good point, but...

Simuvac, you said, "Remember, Kerry won the popular vote."

That case, and the previous presidential contest too, demonstrate that it also matters who counts the vote. And how they do it. And whose votes they allow, and disallow.

These too are relevant issues for our cause here, don't you suppose.

The other chillingly relevant issue concerns the survival of good candidates, viz., Robert Kennedy long ago and, more recently as Fetzer has alleged, Paul Wellstone.

Wrong, Gore Won the Popular Vote in 2000, Bush in 2004

Check your facts.

If Gore won in 2000, then

If Gore won in 2000, then Bush CANNOT legitimately be president. If you aren't elected, you can't be re-elected. Ergo, Kerry won in 2004--by default if nothing else.

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The way the system works.... you can actually win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote and the electoral vote is what actually counts.

The system is flawed in more than one way
Ignorance is NOT Bliss

Oh there you go with your

Oh there you go with your facts again!

Actually I knew that, but I was waiting for Brainster to pounce. Oddly he didn't...

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Kucinich will not change a thing


He's well in the hands of the controlling elite. Anyone with a large media cloud around him should be suspect nowadays. Anyone who believes otherwise is fooling him/herself. All he does is send mixed messages to attract and distract honest, but somewhat ignorant, people.

The most important thing to do now is to get out of the duopoly party trap. If people fail to get out of that democratic limitation, there is little hope for anything to change to the mafia network which is infiltrating the US, and which is destroying it from within.

Sadly, history teaches us that the majority of people will only react when it is too late, and by that time they are too ignorant and confused to really know what the real problems are that should be dealt with.

Mr. Kucinich: Let me hear your opinion on the stealing Federal Reserve, the corrupt CIA, the corporate media kartels and our democracy, the ever growing militrary industrial complex, the massive influx of Hispanics (14% now, 20% by 2050) and the gangs that grow out of their poverty (such as MS13). Or do I need to explain those to you as well?

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Don't feel embarrased. Learn to reason by argument.

Sorry John,

but Brend is right, regardless of the "negative point" he was given. The 2-party monopoly won't change a thing. How many times does this need to be proven before The People really take notice? It's going to come down to taking the streets. It's inevitable.

Kucinich is not part of the two-party system...

...he has been ostracized from the mainstream of the Democratic party because he has taken up positions contrary to the corporately owned mass media, the CIA, the military-industrial complex, and a host of other issues. He, like Ron Paul, is a patriot in the true sense of the word, a politician who defends the Constitution, not the Federal government.

Oke, I've seen his contrarian opinions on some of those issues.

However, he's known to flip-flop when the winds get cold (such as the 9/11 issue), and he does not really get to the hart of the problems (such as his UN troops replacement proposal for Iraq).

But more important than all the above is his Democratic party membership. Those people pay him and give him his platform. They can take it away at any time. At this point in time he's useful. Staying in the Democratic party means endorsing most of their previous policies and a 'belief' to have a place there.

If he really is a true patriot let him, Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney and all the other true constitutional republicans, libertarians, conservatives, etc. join together and form a new party. A party for and by the people, where they can talk about the real issues without being ostracized by their own party. I believe more and more people are interested in such a party or even parties (at the local level and above).

A naive dream? maybe. The alternative however is a real fascistic nightmare.

Don't forget Ron Paul

Paul also made similar comments about getting a new investigation.

A Paul/Kucinich or Kucinich/Paul ticket would be sweet!

Kucinich danced around the

Kucinich danced around the issue and his beliefs about what truely happened. There's a big difference between how he and Ron Paul answer questions. I suggest people play back interviews a few times with kucinich and paul to notice these differences. One is a straight shooter, the other a typical politician.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)


Realist, I wish this really were realistic: "A Paul/Kucinich or Kucinich/Paul ticket..." i.e., a Republican running with a Democrat or vice-versa. Yes, it would be sweet, and partly for its effect in dissolving that artificial barrier.

Any Kucinich staffers reading this? Ron Paul staffers? To either: Does your candidate have that kind of courage?

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What's the real ratio

What's the real ratio "Killtown", is it 100 smoking guns and 150 pieces of mixed in disinfo? Or is it 250 pieces of speculative crap which create the idea that 9/11 truth is uncredible nonsense. How can ANYONE trust you "Killtown"? You're down with "WINGTV", Morgan Reynolds, Judy Wood, Rick Siegel, Jim Fetzer, "the Webfairy" and your website contains some things which appear credible along side "no planes hit the world trade centre" blatant disinfo.

And what you worried about, if you’re so aligned with the facts and impervious to criticism why did you try and get me banned from the Loose Change boards? People over there might be tolerating you now, but I‘d just like to see your review of "Disinformation in the Info Age", I'm sure you can refute everything.

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What? So you're blind or

What? So you're blind or something? "Killtown" is recommending everyone send Kucinich links to his highly speculative, massively uncredible website. I reserve the right to protest "Killtown’s" proposal on the grounds that I think his "material", along with what Nico Haupt and the rest these clowns have "produced", is highly detrimental to the effort that ACTUALLY WANTS TO WIN!

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6 points?

ummm... the day is young. you can expect that number to double.

John, you're bad

in a good way, though...lol

By the way, I'm working on getting a sworn affidavit from someone who saw (and heard) the 2nd plane hit the South Tower. Could you use it for your film if I do? If so, lemme know and I'll try to put you in touch with this person.

it the person is in NYC i could video interview him/her

but - on the other hand - i could video tape myself since i was also a witness.

i am shying away from dignifying the no-planes theory with a response. by spending time trying to debunk it i am falling into the trap.

i mean - do i really need to prove that planes were used on 9/11? LOL!! should i then also prove that buildings were involved on 9/11? should i then prove that 9/11 happened at all? where does it end? will i end up trying to prove string theory and the essence of reality itself?

i do in fact explain how the planes "sliced through steel" - by showing that this claim is a misnomer. the planes did not slice through the steel - they hit the prefabricated sections at high vellicity causing them to fail and buckle at their weakest points (where they are bolted together) - pushing the prefabricated sections inward - in pieces.

This idea (lie) that the aluminum wings of the planes sliced through the steel columns like a knife through butter is a red herring created by Haupt and Reynolds. They are claiming it is impossible while failing to consider that that is not what happened at all!

Yeah I pretty much agree with you, John

I've looked into it far enough to know it's poison, and not true, and probably injected for obvious reasons.

This particular person who saw (and heard) the plane hit the tower is from Jersey from what I recall. You can read about his story here if you'd like:

I hadn't thought about you doing an interview with him. I was thinking something more like just reading a letter from him about his experience and then show the affidavit, but if you'd be interested in doing an interview, I suppose that's a possibility as well (if you decide you want to expose the no-plane disinfo show).

If he decides to go through the trouble of getting an affidavit, and willing to let it go public, I'll let you know.

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

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Hey Killtown

Grow up.

if Killtown

had have an ounce of integrity he would admit his mistakes and rework his research to reflect a more credible position. hey - i had to admit my mistakes on controlled demolition. (although i still beg to differ on some points and theories)

But - it does not even appear that this guy WANTS to evolve and learn and grow. He still disrupts and runs to the aid of the worst researchers/disruptors in teh movement and still has his webpages loaded with mis/dis(?)information poisoning the well.

For example - Killtown get very rightiously indignant when you point out that he advocates holograms. he claims that a disclaimer on his website absolves him of this sin.

well - if that's true - why not just take all that crap about holograms OFF the website? years have passed. the theory is NOT credible - and never was. he claims he does not advocate it. yet - mysteriously - there it is still on his webpage. holograms. it embarassing

and that's just one example. so what should we say about his integrity?

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The trash all comes from the same group...

That video (linked above) appears to be from the same "people" that did "9/11 Octopus" - warning nausea predicted.


It would not suprise me if they worked in cohorts with the "debunking 9/11" folks too.

Problem -> Reaction -> Solution

All a bunch of fakers if you ask me... and that's being polite !!!

Best wishes.

Yeah I agree with you, but

I want to know what Killtown's name is doing on the credits at the end of it. Someone may have put it there without his knowledge or approval, so I'm just wondering what the story behind it is. If he did put his name on it, because he believes that particular video will help bring justice to the persons who orchestrated 9/11, I'd like to know what his reasoning for that belief is.

No hater, I didn't.


Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

Please expound...

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here. So what's your name/moniker doing on it?

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So you're saying you don't know the person who made it?

If not are you pissed off about it? If someone did that to me I'd want to hunt them down and kick their feckin' head in. But that's just me. Kidding of course.

Where did I say I didn't know the person who made it?

Of course you would be pissed off. You are a person filled with hate who likes to attack people who think different.


Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

Good lord

not this again. Ok just ignore me, Killtown. Sorry I asked. Back to your research about... whateverthefuck it is.


I really respect Mr. Kucininich for his position and his demeanor in this video. This is one of the best interviews of a public figure I have seen in years!

Justin, you displayed great courage and great poise! Excellent job! Thank you!!!

Kucinich: "Why be afraid of it, I mean we, this is a national tragedy, there's alot of theories floating around and you know, uh if the government had been on the up and up right after 9/11, if it hadn't gone around and blamed, you know, Iraq for 9/11, I think the government would have credibility when it issued a 9/11 report. But people don't believe the government."
"Cogito ergo sum"

Kucinich seems like a decent

Kucinich seems like a decent guy but I have to say be careful in putting too much trust in him. He really danced around the topic and where his opinions fell with regard to it.

Does anyone know his record for soft money? I'm just curious because it's a good indicator of their integrity.

"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)

That's all

us truthers want ,is answers to all our questions in the open.

Kucinich info.

Here is his 2008 campaign's phone number:

1 (877) 41-Dennis

Here is Kucinich's address where you can send in DVD's etc.

Dennis Kucinich's Lakewood Office
14400 Detroit Avenue
Lakewood, Ohio 44107

Phone (216)228-8850
Fax (216)228-6465

I requested that his staff educate themselves regarding nine eleven and watch "911: Press for Truth"


Thank you, Orang. for the

Thank you, Orang. for the link. I wrote him--rather his staff--a lovely note:

>>Mr. Kucinich:

For your consideration;

Pre-meditated murder is always a conspiracy. Those who destroy evidence of murder, resist investigating murder, then tamper with the murder investigation, make themselves, at the very least, assecories after the fact, to murder.

The Bush administration by: failing to preserve the four crime scenes on Septenber 11, 2001, and allowing evidence to be removed and destroyed; by not immediately starting an investigation into the events of 9/11 on the pretext it would "draw resouces away" from the "war on terror"; and, when forced to investigate tampered with said investigation, and refused to have the President and Vice president testify publicly, under oath, about what they knew and when they knew it;

These aforementioned actions, among others, strongly argue for the Bush administration's guilt, at the very least, of being assecories after the fact to the mass murders of September 11, 2001.

I must solemnly inform you, sir, that until there is a new investigation into the events of 9/11 and criminal charges are brought against this administration for their gross and wanton dereliction of duty( to say the least), none of the good you wish to do, in domestic or foreign policy, will succeed. While they "own" 9/11, you cannot win. I say this as a life-long progressive.

I urge you, sir, to read Barrie Zwicker's excellent book, "Towers of Deception", as well as Micheal Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon". In addition, the movie "911Press for Truth", chroncaling the Jersey Girls push for an investigation will open your eyes, if you have not already seen it.

Those who would benefit from these events want a Third World America and Britain populated by over-worked underpaid subjects at the mercy of a police state who will murder and torture at the first signs of true disent. That is what we all learned from Abu Graibe and Gitmo--this is how those in power wish to rule us.

We will not stand for it. We will not live like slaves. We will fight, secede, or emmigrate--but WE WILL NOT stand for it.

I respect your progressive past and your campaign for the presidency gives me optimism. But we can no longer afford passive optimism. Whomever truely wants to make a better world MUST stand on the issue of 9/11 or it will all fail.

Prove you are that person and you will have my vote.


Jenny Sparks<<

I cringe at the lack of spellchecker--did what I could by sight. I don't think it's too bad, tho.

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almost good jenny

Your letter starts out great. My advice would be to take out the stuff about press for truth and Towers of Deception. The cover-up is where we should start.

If Kucinich doesn't already see this coverup and the obvious need for a national, public recognition of this coverup....then something is wrong with this picture.

Argue the cover-up.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

"almost good"? *pout*

"almost good"? *pout* Watch out--I'll whine REALLY loudly!

Seriously, I include references to provide a frame work for the point of the letter. This does two things: 1: gives a specific "agenda" of concerns to work from, that echo the concerns in my letter; and 2: subtly sends a message that works of this media cannot be dismissed as fringe issues.

If I left those specific sources out, the only references that might occur to the person reading this might be "Loose Change"--which is great for what it does but in the uninformed eyes has been tainted with the Popular Mechanics rubbish.

Remember, it is doubtful that Kucinich himself will read these emails first. A whole series of people will read it before(if) it gets to his eyes. These people are now given some food for thought, and, hopefully, their own research. These people talk to and around people who have influence--every well thought letter pushes us closer to the "hundredth monkey" so to speak.

Otherwise I agree that with you that he's GOT to know there is a cover of of some sort.

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Kucinich's Blog

Here is a forum we could spend some time on if we felt so inclined. It doesn't seem like it would be a waste of time in my opinion. Let's spread the basic truths to those that may haven't had the opportunity to be introduced to them. WTC7, PressForTruth, Etc.


I got this mail in reply

what does that mean?


Dear Dirk,

I am assuming you faxed this to the congressional office
since you had their address on this. We are the campaign
website. FEC and House Ethics rules prohibit us from
working with the congressional staff. Investigating 9/11
is a congressional matter. I cannot forward this for you.
I cannot work with congressional staff.

In hope and peace,

Gail Heyn
Kucinich for President

It seems to mean that they are not allowed to directly influence

other congressional people (including their staff). That would be a form of political lobbying with campaign money. They may only support and influence their own candidate.

Perhaps only corporations may directly influence congress at any time? ;-)


He's acknowledging the public desire for truth on 9/11, and says he's willing to ask the difficult questions. That may just be enough to garner the support of millions of 9/11 truth-loving Americans.

I wonder what Ron Paul will do to one-up him?

team of representatives from the movement?

Surely a team of representatives from the movement can arrange a meeting with Kucinich. I nominate David Ray Griffin and Webster Tarpley to lead.

On the other hand I remember Jerry Springer saying, "Show me the evidence".

That went nowhere.

We must be the change we wish to see in the world. M Gandhi

Need to have scientists there also...

As Kucinich said in the interview, he wants hard scientific facts...

I would also suggest Steven Jones (barium findings etc) and Kevin Ryan (NIST coverup), and good guy Mike Berger helping coordinate things.

Best wishes and good luck to all in search of the TRUTH !!!

Yes, Veritas, they could be

Yes, Veritas, they could be helpful. But remember: the burden to prove what actually happened should never be put on the people who doubt the official story. That's a box-in, and impossible without access to subpoenas and documents.

In each facet of the OCT, we only need to prove that it couldn't happen the way the feds say it did. We want Kucinich to see the need for a new investigation, not convince him to sign on to any particular theory.

Let's hope this pans out! Good luck to all indeed!

The NIST coverup is more than enough...

The names mentioned could give one hell of a two hour presentation...

However he did state that he wants "questions", I suppose NIST is a good place to start.

Best wishes

Dancing around

If Dennis doesn't know by now about the entirely irregular procedures surrounding 9/11.......he should stop the comedic concern. What an act - show me the facts, indeed!

The blogger with the water car information is correct - and our dear Congress knows about that, too. The science is sound.

Read My Mind

Why would a contingent of 911bloggers be needed to hold Kucinich's hand? That is ridiculous. The fact that the 9/11 commission chairmen are making money selling books about how much of a failure their 'investigation' was and how all major agencies lied to them...show you the information? As if the information is stowed away in a chest in Jon Gold's closet.


Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

"The fact that the 9/11

"The fact that the 9/11 commission chairmen are making money selling books about how much of a failure their 'investigation' was" -- Now that you point it out, that really is sick and disturbing. Making money off of a failure to investigate a tragedy?


has earned more money from 9/11 than anyone else. I heard this on C-Span this past weekend.
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

Any idea how much? I know

Any idea how much? I know he must have made millions off of his bullshit leadership book. Suck it Giuliani.

I wish we could present more

I wish we could present more than circumstantial evidence to Kucinich. Unfortunately we cannot do this at this point.

Different Approach

Rollo, what are you talking about? Evidence of what? The information is public record. Kucinich is a government official...and we have to 'show him' something?


Yea, when i get home from work after I pay all my bills and get my kids in bed I'll start preparing the case! ????

The chairmen are selling books telling of how their commission failed and they even knew it would fail before they got started. They write about liars, Sandy Berger stole 9/11 related material from the national archives a day before he was to testify!

Why do people think the burden of proof on how and why the collapses occurred is on any of us? If you take this argument as your own, you are going to inevitably get stuck in a loop of circumstantial evidence, disinfo, and speculation.

If Kucinich needs someone to 'show' him that 9/11 was a sham cover-up then this guy needs to get the hell out of office because he's got to be the most un-observant politician in recent history.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

But for the record...

It would still be nice to have documented proof of him receiving information and discussing what he proposes to do with it.

I don't see many other members of congress or the senate offering this.

Support em and let them know you're behind them.

Best wishes

Kucinich must do better

I am one who gave him the benefit of the doubt when I wrote to him, but I don't think this "show me the evidence" BS is genuine. Of course he knows everything we know. I'm afraid that he's maybe playing the same role he did with regard to the antiwar democrats--throw them a little bone, keep them in the fold, stall them, then just give up when it comes down to the crunch. This is not leadership we're seeing from him--he is proposing that we lead him to the truth. Nonsense. He has to do better, or just get out of the way.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force



:He has to do better, or just get out of the way."

Well put. The 9/11 Truth Train left about 4 or 5 years ago. Kucinich is asking us to stop the damn truth train, explain it to him, and then what? We wait for him to decide before we rev the engines up again?

It sucks, but Kucinich is going to have to grab the railing of a speeding train. His own fault though, this government official (considering how much of a hero he is to the pseudo-far left) should have been on this train years ago.

Naturally, I'm skeptical of a government official who, almost 6 years later, is asking me to show him the cover-up.

Dennis Kucinich gets a decent wage to do what he is asking us to do for him.

I will cross my fingers but...

I wonder if this is the "Next 9/11 Truth Hero" I've been hearing about....

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

No Politician is going to "lead" on 9/11 Truth...

....they will only step up after the grassroots demands for it can no longer be avoided...and that part is up to us....

It's still too dangerous a topic for them to be outspoken about without massive popular support.

I think Kucinich is saying, "hey, I'm here when you people mean business and will have my back"....

Hi, jpass...

Friend, people sometimes need to save face. Also, he has his own safelty to consider.

I agree, no sane person who is close to Washington politics -- who also has eyes and a brain -- can avoid realizing that the whole official 9-11 story is a sham at very best.

It is conceivable that Kucinich needs to show concern as he has, to save face. And he really does have to consider his own safety. Shock and Awe has that effect on people in these more minor positions of power.

Evidence to email Kucinich that proves WTC7 was a CD...

-Guns & Butter Radio interview - April 27th 2005:
Hosted by Bonnie Falkner
Guest: Indira Singh (Ground Zero Emergency Worker)

Bonnie: How long did you work as an emergency medical technician and exactly what is it that you were doing (at ground zero)?

Indira: ...when I got there we were setting up triage sites (at ground zero), close, very close to the area. The triage site that I was setting up was behind, well, to the east of Building 7 where Building 7 came down...
...we were setting up triages as close to the pile as possible… so what we were doing was setting up different kinds of stations… IV stations, cardiac stations, wound stations, burn stations ...just trying to have an organized space. What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon afternoon, after mid-day on 9/11 we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down... I do believe that they brought Building 7 down... By noon or one o'clock they told us we had to move from that triage site up to Pace University a little further away because Building 7 was going to come down or being brought down.

Bonnie: Did they actually use the word "brought down" and who was it that was telling you this?

Indira: The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word "we're going to have to bring it down."

Excerpt from above is heard approximately ten minutes into the interview.
Audio: http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=78


-Emergency worker: "We were watching the building [WTC7] actually ‘cause it was on fire… the bottom floors of the building were on fire and… we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder… turned around -- we were shocked to see that the building was ah well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out… it was horrifying… about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that… we saw the building crash down all the way to the ground… we were in shock."

Live 9-11 Report from 1010 WINS NYC News Radio, presented in the documentary "911 Eyewitness" (Forward to 31:30)
Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65460757734339444&q


-Reporter Al Jones: "People started to run away from the scene [WTC7] and I turned in time to see what looked like a skyscraper implosion -- looked like it had been done by a demolition crew -- the whole thing just collapsing down on itself and another big huge plume of gray and white smoke shooting up into the air and then more of the smoke billowing up the street here... so that’s number one, number two, and now number seven that have come down from this explosion."

Live 9-11 Report from 1010 WINS NYC News Radio, presented in the documentary "911 Eyewitness" (Forward to 28:25)
Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65460757734339444&q


Former NYPD Officer & 9/11 First Responder Craig Bartmer:

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth."


"I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."

Video clips of Building 7 being demolished on 9/11/01:



7 minute video presentation about the destruction of Building 7:.

Related links:

"This is work of man. This is a hired job. [Larry Silverstein] said it himself. You hear him saying 'Pull it' down."
Controlled Demo Expert Danny Jowenko confirms that Building 7 was brought down with explosives

Structural Experts Say:
"WTC-7 was with the greatest probability brought down by controlled demolition done by experts."
Link: http://911blogger.com/node/2925

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

again, no need to prove anything

I can't express how strongly I feel about this. It is well documented by the very Commission that studied 9/11 that the their 9/11 investigation was a colossal failure. They were lied to by every major government institution.

That should be number 1 and at the forefront of any argument that Kucninich needs spoon fed to him.

He's asking for evidence of what exactly? This is going to end up in a loop of bs.

There was a massive cover-up. If Kucinich needs us to help him figure this out then something is wrong here.

It is far easier to prove the cover-up. It's easy cheesy because the government, by it's own admission, has covered up the crime.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

Concise and compelling

If Kucinich means what he says about considering information/evidence, that is good.  However, it bothers me more than a little that he is asking a 19 year-old to present him with evidence.  (Nothing against 19 year-olds but this raises an important issue about what today’s politicians really think/know about 9/11.) 

Let’s assume Kucinich is sincere and he is really willing to consider other arguments.  How, then, to be concise and compelling?  You get only one chance to make a first impression.  How to get Kucinich to WANT to spend a little time at 911blogger.com (or some other 9/11 truth site) himself?  How to get Kucinich to want to watch 911 Mysteries or Press for Truth? How do you get him to WANT to do those things? 

Or, is he just blowing smoke up our collective ass?

This begs the question, what do today’s politicians really know/believe?

I believe Hillary knows – I can’t prove it but it would make sense.  If she doesn’t know, does she have any doubts about the “official” story?  Perhaps she has doubts and she chooses to keep her mouth shut out of fear.  Perhaps she has doubts but is afraid to take on the subject out of fear of political losses.  Perhaps she really believes the official story.How could any reasonable person in good conscience look at the big picture and not come away with a multitude of questions and doubts about the official story?

Today’s politicians – hopefully with the exception of Kucinich – seem to be motivated only by power, greed, and fear.  Not truth.  Has fear been the tool of choice used by the real conspirators to control politicians, too? Could it be that the politicians really do know but are scared to tell the truth?  Or, are they are just plain ignorant of the facts (and lack thereof?)

Either answer would be a little scary.

I think the best approach

is to demonstrate that there is a basis for reopening the case based upon known evidence of a governmental coverup and lies.

One of the most basic fundamental questions that arose out of 911 were questions regarding our air defenses. HOW could Washington DC be violated in that way?

Given the August 12th story in the Washington Post in which the 911 Commissioners themselves claimed they considered criminal charges against NORAD for KNOWINGLY giving them false information, we now know that after millions have been spent on a formal investigation and commission report, we STILL do not have an answer to the most fundamental question of ACCOUNTABILITY for our failed air defenses.

As we know, NORAD provided 3 seperate timelines of events associated with their response on 9/11. NONE of these timelines proved to be accurate.

WHO has been held accountable? Is the public not entitled to accountability?

HOW could our air defenses fail on such a massive level?

WHERE did the breakdown in communication (if there was one) occur?

WHY has NORAD not been held accountable for failing to give a full and thorough accounting of its actions that day?

These are not conspracy theories. This is not speculation. 3,000 people died because our air force failed to protect us. That's a fact. These are FUNDAMENTAL questions that are inherently credible in their simplicity.

These are questions that are actionable. People can be compelled to testify and give answers. And if they lie - they can be charged with a crime.

The key to opening the door to 911 Truth is really breathtakingly simple.

Give Us a Congressional Hearing

Dennis, with the power of independant investigation to subpoena, and the evidence will show itself.
But We know how Washington is these days; Chock full of greedy, ignorant,party line idiots, along with those who know and profit from the "War on Terror". I am suspicious that you would ask us for the evidence when You have the ability to do this Yourself.
By the way, could You show Us the law requiring Us to pay income taxes?

Income taxes?

I do propose that we not bring up income taxes if we want these folks to listen to us -- regardless of the merits of that battle. Stuff about the Fed also distract from what we need to convey, IMO.

Later on, if this ever starts going anywhere, features of many governmental institutions will need major revision, especially in terms of oversight and transparency.

Your first phrase here says it all: "Give us a Congressional hearing... with the power of independant investigation to subpoena, and the evidence will show itself." That is our sole message to Kucinich, and to any other politician, right now, on this 9-11 issue. Agree?

You shouldn't make an effort to exclude them.

People who research tax law may in fact also research 9/11. It's not my specific field of interest either, but it is part of the same larger picture. If the activist community is divided, it is not as effective, and knowledge of the economy is vital for the understanding of 9/11 attack. Again, I must reccomend Webster Tarpley's Synthetic Terror book for eloquently explaining this. Mike Ruppert did an admirable job as well in "Crossing the Rubicon".

It's not really an effort to exclude...

Daricus, I get what you are saying here and agree. Sure, lots of issues need investigating. There is plenty to consider and much to hopefully fix. The 9-11 events are a symptom only, of some big underlying disease. Let's figure out what that disease is.

Maybe tax policy is part of it. Other things too, such as petroleum consumption and so on. The drug trade also enters in, I have read here.

But this discussion was about contacting Kucinich, right? In that context I would prefer focusing on getting a real 9-11 investigation, period.

I thought the income tax issue digressed. It won't help the immediate cause. Plus, it looks wierd. Doesn't it? But I didn't mean to jump on the fellow.

Uh, yeah...



I could not agree more more more John.

Can't Stop 9/11 Fever

the problem with that approach...

Is that they can easil;y say: "Oh yes NORAD failed--they were bumbling and incompetent, and we will now punish them harshly for their failure to defend our skies from these death bringing planes."

Then we will say: "But, the planes that NORAD failed to stop did not put explosives in the towers, they did not even hit building 7, and we doubt seriously that a couple of them even existed."

And then everyone will say: "Oh stop it now with your wild conspiracy theories--you GOT the truth, stop trying to add on to it with your incredible stories about controlled demolition and no plane at the Pentagon. The truth about 9/11 is that Arab Muslims hijacked planes and NORAD failed to stop them. Then they lied to cover up their failure. Just goes to show that President Hillary's plan to escalate the war on terror is a good idea, she will leave no room in her iron grip for mistakes like this."

But look at the evidence!

You are a crackpot and evil to boot--you will now be put in jail for lying to people about this historic tragedy.

And so it goes...


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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be realistic

Kucinich is probably a very genuine person, but we all know he will never be the Democratic Party nominee for president. The power brokers in the party will not let it happen, and beyond that everyone knows he doesn't have the charisma most people expect from a TV-era candidate. Even the Democratic-friendly Daily Show makes jokes about Kucinich.

Kucinich can afford to offer support to every fringe group in the nation, because he has nothing to lose. He knows he can't win. The Party puts him out there with the Al Sharptons to pretend like it cares about a wide swath of political interests, but in the end the nominee will be Hillary or an insider to be named later.

In a perverse way, having Kucinich support 9/11 Truth would only continue to marginalize it. I know beggars can't be choosers, but Kucinich has been labelled by the corporate press as a fringe candidate, and so anything he supports gets painted with the fringe brush. That in itself is not a reason to avoid supporting him; it's simply an observation.

I'm not saying we should ignore Kucinich's entreaties, but clearly a real breakthrough for 9/11 Truth would involve no more than 20 first responders standing in front of TV cameras and saying, "This government killed us. How many more did it allow to die for the sake of refashioning the Middle East?"

And then have them do that again in city after city, camera after camera.

But it does get the word out.

We need not pin our hopes on getting a 9-11 Truth candidate into office. So far most of us feel lucky indeed if the issue is brought up at all, in a valid way, in any mainstream context.

I suppose even fringe candidtates bringing the issue up will help to put it out there. Our role is to get the issue out, right? Not to elect come specific individual.

Mabe Kucinich would have the guts to help get the issue out? It seems doubtful, but it would be refreshing if it were to happen. Right?

We need a 9/11 truth presidential candidate

We need a 9/11 truth presidential candidate. If Nader can run as an independent or a green then a 9/11 truth candidate can run. 911 Blogger and other reality based truth activists could be huge in making this happen.

Folks, don't get your hopes up.

I love Dennis Kucinich, but he was notified long ago about all of this. Check this out.

The Democratic Party, Like The Republican Party and The Media, Covered Up The Deep Complicity In The 9/11/01 Attack By Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Myers
By John B. Massen, Guest Writer — Summary Analysis

On March 11, 2003, Congressman John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee, called an emergency meeting of 40+ top advisors, mostly lawyers, to discuss immediately initiating impeachment against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft, to head off the impending war against Iraq, which began eight days later. Also invited were Francis A. Boyle, professor of law at University of Illinois School of Law, and Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General, both of whom had drafted Bills of Impeachment, to argue the case for impeachment. The meeting ended with a second revised draft Bill of Impeachment, because eminent lawyers believed that Bush et al deserved impeachment for multiple violations of international treaties and laws. However, influential Democrats opposed impeachment on the ground that the effort would hurt their party's interest in gaining control of the federal government in the 2004 election.

On 9-13-01, the Senate Armed Services Committee, with a Democratic Chairman and majority membership, heard General Richard Myers testify that fighter aircraft responded to an apparently hijacked plane inbound to the U.S. and forced it to land in a remote base in Canada. Standard operating procedures were clearly in effect outside, but not inside, the U.S. on 9-11-01. If there had been no advance warning of the attack, fighter planes responding under standard operating procedures would have prevented all attacks inside the U.S. The Bush regime must have decided to permit the attack to succeed.

A comprehensive report was written, by myself, which cited Myers' testimony, the failure to prevent the 9/11 attacks, Bush's behavior at the Florida school, and evidence of planning, long before 9/11/01, aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq. The report was sent, by myself, to Conyers on 11/17/03, to Rep. Barbara Lee on 1/3/04, and to all 257 Democrats in the House and Senate plus DNC Chairman McAuliffe on 1/26/04. The transmittal letters all strongly appealed for impeachment of the Bush regime for complicity in permitting the 9/11 attack to occur, and stressed that Democrats might receive, and should request, effective political support by a comprehensive political-educational campaign by MoveOn.Org and United For Peace and Justice that would assure a majority vote in the House and a 2/3 vote in the Senate. The Report was sent to MoveOn.Org and UFPJ, for use as they wished to inform and motivate their members.

David Ray Griffin's vital book, The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11, was released in April 2004. It presented comprehensive evidence indicating deep complicity by the Bush regime in the 9/11 attack. The simplest "snapshot" of that evidence is this: (a) the North Tower (WTC-1) was struck at 8:46 AM, and collapsed 102 minutes later at 10:28 AM; (b) the South Tower (WTC-2) was struck at 9:03 AM and, with a much smaller fire, collapsed 56 minutes later (55% of WTC-1 time) at 9:59 AM; and (c) the 47-story WTC-7, which was two blocks away and not struck by a plane and had smaller interior fires, collapsed at 5:20 PM. (p.12) The collapse of WTC-2 before WTC-1 indicates the cause was not fires, but controlled demolition. (p.17)

Copies of Griffin's book were sent by myself to these Democrats: Dennis Kucinich on 3/27/04 with an impassioned plea; DNC Chair McAuliffe, Congresswomen Nancy Pelosi, and Senators Daschle, Feinstein and Boxer on 3/31/04; Congress members John Conyers, Elijah Cummings (Black Caucus Chair), Ciro Rodriquez (Hispanic Caucus Chair), Barbara Lee, Louise Slaughter (Co-chair of Women's Issues Caucus), and Tom Udall, between 4/05 and 4/28/04. All transmittal letters urged impeachment action, contending that such action and injecting the "complicity issue" into the 2004 presidential campaign was the only way to assure Bush's defeat; and repeated that Congressional Democrats might receive, and should request, effective political support from a comprehensive political-educational campaign waged by MoveOn.Org and UFPJ. Of course, many Congressional Democrats received, from other persons, much information about the Bush regime complicity in addition to that reported above.

All Congressional Democrats and especially its leaders, and DNC Chair MCAuliffe, were adequately informed of the Bush regime complicity and had staff and other resources to investigate further. Congressional Democrats had sworn to protect and uphold the constitution. They utterly failed in their obligations to the constitution and to their constituents to be an effective opposition party. The title of this essay is fully justified: the Democratic Party, like the Republican Party and the Media, covered up the deep complicity in the 9/11/01 attack by Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Myers.
(more at link)


Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime :)

Best wishes

Good post...

Hey, Al Czervik, this is good information. You could submit it as a blog entry I would think.

I have been astonished at how quiet Democrats have been about this obviously intentional blood-bath. If you and I can know and also logically suspect as much as we do -- and that has gotten extensive by now -- then they all know much more. And they must know it rather clearly, with few if any major gaps in information. I can only conclude that many or most, in the higher positions at least, are complicit in some way.

LeftWright here thinks that Democrats were complicit in the early planning and arranging, starting at least 10 years ago. That makes sense to me. Then this administration has held them hostage due to that. Think: How could anyone snitch, if doing so would show them also nearly as guilty as the immediate perpetrators? This is mass murder.

Who knows where Kucinich stands in all of this. From his record, and the history of how he came up so quickly as a populist outsider, I guess he is innocent of it, at least in terms of planning and implementation. It is worth putting him to the test on it to see, isn't it? He may do OK.

Correction -

I do not think that the "Democrats were complicit in the early planning and arranging" of 9/11.

What I said is that during the 1990's the Clinton Administration made use of the "al Qaeda ISI/CIA network" in the Balkans and other places and thus had significant political liabilities in regards to the "terrorists" who perpetrated 9/11. The ISI/CIA set up the Taliban during the Clinton years, as well. This allows the actual perpetrators to keep the Democratic elite from investigating the events of 9/11 in any serious manner.

Keep in mind that the outgoing Clinton Administration gave the Bush transition team significant warnings about OBL and al Qaeda. This was undoubtedly to give themselves political cover, but may also have been an attempt to preempt the 9/11 event, itself.

I also said that I think the true perpetrators of 9/11 began their planning of the event at least 10 years before it took place and that the framing for the "clash of civilizations" was initiated in the late 1970's.

Please be very careful what you attribute to me in the future. Thanks.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Be well.

Just have to add...

"at least 10 years before it took place and that the framing for the "clash of civilizations" was initiated in the late 1970's."....In retaliation to the ultra-progressive gains made in the 60's. I think non-elite people underestimate the tremendous impact the decade of the 60's made on culture as a whole. The Reagan era was about reversing that tide, which they succeeded at in MANY ways. In fact...what we're facing will not only erase ALL of the gains made then, it'll take us back to an essentially Medieval-like period where King rules, and peasant is ruled. Maybe another "Dark Age" if they get what they ultimately are striving for.

Show "100 million people" by JamesB

Also tell Kucinich

The Presidential candidate who exposes the 9/11 cover-up successfully will likely be President. Kucinich may realize that doing such a thing could make him the greatest President in history.

9/11 Truth Presidential Candidate?

If Kucinich doesnt bite maybe the idea of floating a Presidential candidate for 9/11 truth parallel to the movement should be considered. Such a candidate would receive the considerable resources of the bulk of the rational part of the truth movement. Bob Bowman for President?

(great post Al Czervik)


Representative Kucinich,

If you want my vote, or even my support for any Democratic candidates at all in 2008, it comes down to the high treason of September 11th 2001. I shouldn't need to be typing this letter, but the 9-11 Commission was a cover up, plain and simple, and anyone with three brain cells to rub together knows it.

That is treason enough.

Mr. Bush was moved out of his high rise hotel in July 2001 in Genoa Italy because of a "known Al Qaeda plot to hijack commerical airliners and crash them into the summit of industrialized nations" (LA Times 9-27-01).

So what was he doing sitting in that classroom? Where was the secret service? Why did Ari Fleischer hold up a sign saying "DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET"? (Wash. Times, 10-7-02)

Where was the Air Force? How can Washington DC remain undefended for over an hour and twentry minutes? Norad told three different and conflicting stories. None of them, are in my opinion, true.

Dick Cheney was in command of nine known "war game exercises" happening simultaneously during the attacks. Don't you find this suspicious? Don't you find it amazing that this hasn't been investigated at all? Could this account for the nation's fighter jets being in Canada and Alaska when we needed them?

The 9-11 commission ommitted Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta's testimony about Cheney being in control in the PEOC at 9:20 and telling a junior officer "Of Course the order still stands, have you heard anything to the contrary?" WHAT ORDER? Who was he talking to?

The 9-11 Commisssion also ommitted the MONEY TRAIL leading back to Omar Saeed Sheikh and Pakistani ISI.

The 9-11 Commission also ommitted Able Danger, and that DIA had identified the Atta cell in 2000.

No investigation of Atta and his friends' activities in Venice Florida has happened. Daniel Hopsicker has independently uncovered evidence of DRUG SMUGGLING at the Huffman Aviation "flight school", which was evidently a protected operation. Need I remind you about the CIA's sordid history "Air America", of smuggling drugs for decades?


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Show "Kucinich please expose the ZIONIST 9/11 connection!" by Concrete man

Alas. The Zionism comment. It gets old.

How often do people need to point this out?

Jumping to conclusions helps nothing. Especially that one.

Let's ask for a real investigation. Let's keep the foregone conclusions out of it. What is your motive in mentioning this?

Zionists? Maybe. Pakistanis, i.e. Muslims? Maybe. Lutherans? Who knows; maybe some of them. CIA? Probably, but even there we'll need more facts, and open testimony. This administration? More than maybe. Earlier administrations? Quite possibly.

Let's get a real investigation happening.

I agree Student

Yes We want an investigation, first and foremost for the families of the victims and for the nation. The question of showing the law that requires Us to pay taxes is a Redress of Grievances addressed to the government in July of 2001to which the government did not address. 9/11 is our Redress of Grievances that also warrants attention, but is Kucinich just giving Us lip service? This Fascist government in its present form can't exist without taxing personal income.
Two things that elected reps like Kucinich can find info for themselves.

Check this out

Mike, you ask: "is Kucinich just giving Us lip service?" None of us can know. Time will tell.

Did you know that he chairs the new Subcommittee on Domestic Policy under the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform? That seems potentially significant.

With that in mind, look at this quote from him: "I do know that the American people still have unanswered questions about 9/11, WMDs, the abandonment of international law and the Geneva Conventions, the war in Iraq, the White House Iraq Group, the Rendon propaganda machine, Afghanistan, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, the Pat Tillman case, Iraq war casualties, the missing $10.8 billion in Iraq reconstruction funds, the human and economic toll of the war, rendition, wiretapping, domestic spying, and plans for an attack on Iran"

I say, give him the benefit of the doubt. Very few in or out of politics are speaking like this.

there is a very wise person

there is a very wise person at the loose change forums.....

he goes around with a portable dvd player---with 911eyewitness---paused at what he calls the 'sweet spot'---
you gotta embarrass people like this on camera

when he pulls that crap about "show me later"---

-pull out the portable dvd and show him the wtc7 smoking gun evidence

then film his reaction!!

There's more than meets the eyes and ears, with Kucinich

He is far more aware of many facets of hidden realities than he ever lets on in public. And that's not a guess on my part.

He's playing a delicate game in mainstream politics, and he's playing it very well. He may not be as directly outspoken or perfect as many of us would wish, but he definitely is sincere and good-hearted.

And way, way more awake and aware than you might ever imagine.

Why didn't...

the kid holding the mic ask Kucinich about using sopeana power to get an independent investigation going? When confronting politicians face to face, rare opportunities as they are, the right questions need to be asked. In this case, THE most important question wasn't asked. I hate to use age as an issue, but where are the 30 and 40somethings who should be interviewing these politicians? I mean, it's great that we have young people pushing this movement, but we need folks with some REAL English-speaking skills who can ask the proper questions in an *authoritative* and concise way.

Information Sent to Dennis Kucinich and Staff

Aloha, Mr. Kucinich and Staff,

Video PROOF of Controlled Demolition
See this page... 2 minute video - but takes a few minutes to load the page. I kept it high quality so people could see the evidence in the video. Click on the video again if it stops. It works best on a mac.

And check out this page... (actually, check out all the pages on the site)

watch this: 11 minutes

I have an email list that many in congress and the media are on. Here are some links from my intro email.
Send me your email address if you want to "Really Know" what is going on in our world.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.

God Bless
Lisa Long

Here is the first one to watch..
MUST WATCH - (Free to watch on google video... also watch the ones below)
America Freedom to Fascism Authorized version
The scariest damn film you'll see this year. It will leave you staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed and trembling. Makes 'Fahrenheit 9/11' look like 'Bambi.' Aaron Russo goes for the jugular -- the two planks of the communist Manifesto instituted in America in 1913, The Marxist Graduated Income Tax and the Private Central Bank -- the Federal Reserve. Must SEE.

MUST WATCH - Loose Change 2nd Edition Recut (over 25 million people have seen this- you should too.)

9/11: Press for Truth - 1:24 streaming, Website. This is the best film available to expose the 9/11 cover up. Even your Republican grandpa from Texas will have doubts about 9/11 when he finishes it!

9/11 Mysteries (Full Length, High Quality) - 1:31 streaming,
90 minutes of pure demolition evidence and analysis, laced with staggering witness testimonials. Moving from "the myth" through "the analysis" and into "the players," careful deconstruction of the official story set right alongside clean, clear science. The 9/11 picture is not one of politics or nationalism or loyalty, but one of strict and simple physics. How do you get a 10-second 110-story pancake collapse?




Sorry friend, I have a Mac, and these videos do not play well at all. Just letting you know..

I am worried...

...with all the Iran-bashing happening these days that these numerologically-minded false flaggers are planning something for 2/7/2007 or 2/9/2007. Hopefully not, but I wanted to get this prediction out there in case it turns out to be true.

9/11 Cover-up

Hello Dennis:

It has come to my attention that you have recently stated, "I am listening carefully...present me the information/evidence on 911." The following videos contain a great deal of information several orders of magnitude beyond what is presented by Michael Moore's team in "Fahrenheit 9/11":

9/11: Press for Truth

9/11 Mysteries Part One: Demolitions

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2382. Misprision of treason

“Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.”


I called his office today...

... yet while speaking to one of his staffers, I forgot to mention TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2382. Misprision of treason... thank you for reminding us about that one, IT. I should remember next time... maybe I'll call again tomorrow.


"that is what the military does when there is nothing else to do." -911truthiness

other 2008 candidates interested in 9/11 truth...

for what it's worth (potentially A LOT) alaskan senator and presidential candidate, mike gravel*, is interested in being contacted by 9/11 truth organizations.

*i am not working with gravel's campaign.


if any organization is interested in contacting gravel's press coordinator, contact me. the more candidates that are talking 9/11 truth, the less hilary clinton can ignore

blog-green but info mean

The government

Why do we need a politician to get answers? If WE DEMAND ANSWERS and put the politics aside, THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE!! WE NEED TO BUILD OUR OWN SOCIETY WHERE TRUTH IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR SOCIETY. Politics seem to water down the truth for the "best interests of the public" What gives politicians the right to decide what is best for TRUTH????? As I always say, the TRUTH NEVER LIES

The Truth Never Lies

Kuchinich already knows the truth....

He may very well be a good guy...and I hope he is....but I would venture to say that he already knows the truth about 911.

So..attempts to 'wake Kuchinich up' is energy wasted, imo.

Spend that energy waking your neighbor up instead.

Kuchinich (and all VIP's) will do what they do and will have to ultimately answer to a higher power than you or I.

Who cares?

WE have the power! We don't need these VIPs!

there's hope for DK

As of this weekend in NH, Kucinich has a copy of 9-11 Mysteries in hand and promised to watch it all. We will check back to make sure he did and get another statement.
Also, Bill Richardson was here and said "yes" he supported reopening the 9/11 Investigation.