The Nuke Detectors are coming..why again?

This in from CNN:

Nuke detectors to ring New York, official says

ASHINGTON (CNN) -- New York City will be protected by a ring of devices to detect nuclear or dirty bombs before the end of the year, the Department of Homeland Security said Friday.

A dirty bomb is one that spreads radiation without employing a nuclear explosion.

The Department of Homeland Security hopes the circle of sensors will give warning if a bomb is transported into the city by land.

Most previous detection efforts have focused on preventing a bomb from being smuggled into the city by sea.

Under the "Securing the Cities" initiative, detectors will be placed along highways, at truck stops, in weigh stations and at other sites on the perimeter of New York, as well as locations closer to the city center, an official said. Locations will not be made public "for obvious reasons," the official said.

The department's proposed 2008 budget would provide $30 million for the project, in addition to the roughly $16 million that has already been invested. The New York project will serve as a test for other cities, the official said.

Homeland Security is building the network in cooperation with the New York Police Department and other state and local governments in New York and New Jersey. Local governments will respond to any alarms.

"We expect to have this operational this year," the official said. He said the participants are working to establish protocols on how to operate the system and respond to alerts.


        So, why particularly does someone think New York City might be a target for a nuclear attack?   Contrary to the science fiction inspired rubbish about how anyone can learn to make a nuke from the internet, I give this probaility a low sub zero percent.  Even a brainbox who can whip something up on paper is never going to get access to the materials or expertise without inside help.    What other horrible unlikely threat can we throw money away on to simultaneously scare people and make us look busy?

       Hand-grenade detectors to ring New York?

Fertilizer truck detectors to ring New York?

Thermite/ TNT detectors to ring New York?

       Sarcastic? Yes, but a hell of a lot more plausaible than nukes.

       Since broadly speaking Homeland Security's raison d'etre was 911:

"Fact Sheet: Protecting the Homeland Post September 11

Release Date: September 8, 2006

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has taken significant action to improve the nation’s security since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001."

--it's got to make one wonder why THEY think they need nuke detectors.  Or why they need us to think they need nuke detectors. 

I wonder if there's a Presidential Daily Brief about a nuke attack yet? 




I'm not against this

If anything this should have been done years ago, given that there is a possibility of a false flag operation.

Also a little known fact is that nuclear devices (I don't know about dirty bombs ...) leave a radioactive signature with the uranium isotopes that can be traced back to the reactor from which it came, sort of like a fingerprint.

Reality got you down? Read the La Rochelle Times:

Yes, IN THEORY, very good

Yes, IN THEORY, very good idea. It's not the idea, but who is doing it--- do you REALLY trust HLS motives/intentions as it is little more than an over funded propaganda wing of the administration?

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

And if there's going to be a

And if there's going to be a false flag involving nukes, Homeland Security IS going to help--the bastards do it. This is just the sort of infrastructure they need in place to confuse regular folks involved during an "exercise".

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Exactly Right

We should always be wary of this type of move, because it means an attack is that much more likely. "Infrastructure" is the perfect word. A plan like this sets up the personnel and apparatus through which the mole network can push forward an operation under the guise of an "exercise."

I can't wait to move out of NYC. It gets scarier every day.


belly, belly interlesting, eh?

One alleged radiation hot spot on Manhattan's east side has the potential for becoming a political hot spot: A strong radiation spike from the area of the Israeli Embassy. Officials would not comment on why
they thought that particular area allegedly showed such a stunning peak in radiation.

by x Saturday, Oct. 14, 2006 at 5:05 PM
Feds surveyed NYC for radiation, found tainted park, Embassy

WASHINGTON -- Anti-terrorism officials conducted a helicopter survey of
New York City's radiation sources in preparation for a so-called "dirty
bomb" attack - and discovered a Staten Island park with dangerously high
levels of radium, a new report found.

Federal authorities found 80 unexpected "hot spots" around New York
City, according to the Government Accountability Office, the
investigative arm of Congress.

The GAO report released Thursday details a previously undisclosed aerial
anti-terrorism program in New York City, one which may be extended to
other cities worried about the possible release of radioactive material
by terrorists.

The report does not identify which city park had the contaminated soil,
but NYPD officials said it was in Gateway National Park in Staten
Island. The site was closed, and New York has requested federal money to
do a citywide aerial survey every year to update the information.

By creating a map of the city's radiation sources, city officials hope
to be able to respond more quickly in the event of a dirty bomb attack,
know exactly which streets are contaminated and get civilians away.

New York is the first and only U.S. city to conduct a complete aerial
radiological survey, having paid the U.S. Department of Energy $800,000
for the 2005 study.

The helicopters picked up sources of low-level radiation from expected
places, like granite statues and medical isotopes at hospitals, but it
also found dozens of other sources of unexpected radioactivity, the GAO
report found.

"NYPD officials indicated that the survey was tremendously valuable
because it identified more than 80 locations with radiological sources
that required further investigation to determine their risk," the report

At the Staten Island park, sensors detected large quantities of radium
in the soil. Long-term exposure to radium increases the risk of
developing lymphoma, bone cancer and leukemia.

National Park Service spokesman Brian Feeney said the area is a one-acre
piece of the 570-acre Great Kills Park, which is part of the larger
Gateway park.

Feeney said experts assured them after the August 2005 study that the
area posed no public health risk, and said visitors do not go into that
area anyway because of dense vegetation. He did not know if any warnings
had been placed around the site.

The radiation apparently comes from "some piece of industrial equipment,
pieces of old rusty metal. Whatever this equipment used to do, it picked
up radioactivity," he said.

"We keep people out of that area. It's a non-accessible area of the
park, no one can get in there," said Feeney. "There's no health hazard
now, there was never a health hazard to the public."

He said the agency has applied to the Department of Energy for funding
to further survey the site.

Staten Island's congressman, Rep. Vito Fossella, said the contamination
was a surprise to him and residents near the park, and he demanded more

"It is essential for the government to act immediately to fully
understand the extent of the contamination," said Fossella, who was
trying to arrange a meeting Friday with federal and city officials to
discuss further testing and possible removal of the contaminated soil.

One alleged radiation hot spot on Manhattan's east side has the
potential for becoming a political hot spot: A strong radiation spike
from the area of the Israeli Embassy. Officials would not comment on why
they thought that particular area allegedly showed such a stunning peak
in radiation.

The aerial survey is designed to help local officials react more quickly
in the event of terrorists detonating a "dirty bomb" that releases
radioactive material into the air. With the survey, police may be able
to pinpoint the exact source of radiation by comparing new readings to
their pre-existing "radiation map" of the area.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said the department wanted a record of the
city's naturally occurring and other "radiological signatures" to
compare with periodic readings it does to detect for dirty bombs or
other nuclear devices.

"It gives us a baseline so we can pick up any anomalies," he said.

New York City is the only major city to conduct a full-scale Aerial
Background Radiation Survey to identify "hot spots," though such work
has been done in the nation's capitol, according to the report.

The GAO found neither the Department of Energy nor the Department of
Homeland Security believe they are required to conduct such radiation
mapping, though the investigators said there were "significant benefits"
to surveys in other urban areas.

Homeland Security officials agreed that they should study the cost and
effectiveness of expanded radiation mapping in additional cities.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., called the report further proof the
federal government is not doing enough to help cities guard against

The hot spot mapping initiative "should also be shared with cities
across the country, not mothballed because the Homeland Security
Department doesn't want to put up the money," Schumer said.

The GAO report also found the Department of Energy may need to beef up
security at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada and Andrews Air Force Base
in Maryland because those sites hold key national assets for responding
to a radiological or nuclear attack.

Specialized quick-response teams and equipment are concentrated at those
two sites, and a successful attack against either could leave one
section of the country with limited capacity to respond to a subsequent
strike with radioactive weapons, the GAO said.

The agency's associate administrator, Michael C. Kane, was adamant the
sites are safe.

"We categorically reject the contention that physical security at two of
our facilities may not be sufficient for protecting against terrorist
attacks," Kane wrote.>>

The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001