There's NEVER Been A Real 9/11 Investigation

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There's NEVER Been A Real 9/11 Investigation

A quick look at the government's investigations into 9/11 reveals that -- not only has there never been a real investigation -- but the behavior of government representatives in willfully obstructing all attempts at investigation comprises evidence of guilt. Specifically, in all criminal trials, evasiveness, obstruction, and destruction of evidence all constitute strong circumstantial evidence that the accused is guilty or, at the very least, not to be believed. 9/11 is no different.

For example, the former director of the FBI says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission.

And the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people. (free subscription required).

Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."

And former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal" (; "This investigation is now compromised" (; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up" (

But let's back up and look at the 9/11 Commission in more detail. Preliminarily, President Bush and Vice-President Cheney took the rare step of personally requesting that congress limit all 9/11 investigation solely to intelligence failures, so there has never been a congressional probe into any of the real issues involved.

The administration also opposed the creation of a 9/11 commission. Once it was forced, by pressure from widows of 9-11 victims, to allow a commission to be formed, the administration appointed as executive director an administration insider, whose area of expertise is the creation and maintenance of "public myths" thought to be true, even if not actually true (, who was involved in pre-9/11 intelligence briefings, and who was one of the key architects of the "pre-emptive war" doctrine. This executive director, who controlled what the Commission did and did not analyze, then limited the scope of the Commission's inquiry so that the overwhelming majority of questions about 9/11 remained unasked (see and

The administration then starved the commission of funds, providing a fraction of the funds used to investigate Monica Lewinsky, failed to provide crucial documents, refused to share much information with the Commission, refused to require high-level officials to testify under oath, and allowed Bush and Cheney to be questioned jointly.,8599,437267,00.html,,, and

More importantly, the 9-11 Commission refused to examine virtually any evidence which contradicted the administration's official version of events. As stated by the State Department's Coordinator for Counterterrorism, who was the point man for the U.S. government's international counterterrorism policy in the first term of the Bush administration, "there were things the [9/11] commission[s] wanted to know about AND THINGS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT."

For example, the 9-11 Commission report fails to mention the CIA director's urgent warnings to top administration officials in July 2001 of an impending attack (indeed, the 9-11 Commission was briefed on these warnings (, but denied they knew about them ( until confronted with contrary evidence). Moreover, numerous veteran national security experts were turned away, ignored, or censored by the 9/11 commission, even though they had information directly relevant to the commission's investigation. And the 9/11 Commission Report does not even mention the collapse of World Trade Center building 7 or any explosions in the buildings (the word "explosion" does not appear in the report). There are literally hundreds of other examples of entire lines of evidence which contradict the government's account which were ignored by the Commission.

A very well-documented book by a distinguished professor shows that the 9-11 Commission was a whitewash. According to law professor Richard Falk of Princeton, the author of this book "establishes himself, alongside Seymour Hersh, as America's number one bearer of unpleasant, yet necessary, public truths". (Seymour Hersh, as you might know, is the Pulitzer prize-winning reporter who uncovered the Iraq prison torture scandal). See a synopsis of the book here; and a summary of a portion of the book here

Indeed, the very 9-11 widows who had pressured the administration to create the 9/11 Commission now "question the veracity of the entire Commission’s report" (, and have previously declared it a failure which ignored 70% of their detailed questions and "suppressed important evidence and whistleblower testimony that challenged the official story on many fronts".

Moreover, a leading firefighters' trade publication called the investigation concerning the world trade center a "half-baked farce".;PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE.... In addition, the official investigators themselves were largely denied funding, access to the site and the evidence contained there, or even access to such basic information as the blueprints for the world trade center. Similarly, a professor of fire protection engineering, and the former chief of the fire science and engineering division of the agency now investigating the world trade center disaster, wrote that the world trade center buildings could not have collapsed due to jet fuel fires, that evidence was being destroyed, and that there was no real investigation into the collapses.

And did you know that investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant (, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House?

Or that a former FBI translator who Senators Leahy and Grassley, among others, have claimed is credible (, and who the administration has gagged for years without any logical basis -- has stated that"this administration knowingly and intentionally let many directly or indirectly involved in that terrorist act [September 11th] go free - untouched and uninvestigated"?

Or did you know that the tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article ( summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by


Post. Which is why I think the 9/11 Report, is Exhibit A

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beat me in posting about Wikia, so big ups for Slipgrid.

Truly a great resource. I'll blog this locally.

Wow what a great resource. Just go and comment - when I was on I noticed that we are leading "what people are talking about."

Good job GW

...........And the list of reasons go on on.

If someone had the time and

If someone had the time and the energy, a good idea would be to work to recreate Paul Thompson's 9/11 Timeline on there. Perhaps a group could form for that kind of endeavour. It could then begin to fill with linkes to various credible sources of 9/11 information, and become a 9/11 historical record for truth.

The key would be to provide information from only the most credible sources.

Finally, a point by point comparative analysis with the 9/11 Commission Report could be done, and then the NIST report as well.

We could eviscerate the official story myth, for everyone to see, and explore for themselves.

the key to a new

the key to a new investigation is to make use of the subpoena power, that is what we need to get to the bottom of things.

That's crazy talk...

The legislation gave the Commission eighteen months to do the investigation, and even though they had subpoena power from the start, they waited a full ten months to use it and then only reluctantly. Also, anyone who appeared for questioning, from Rudy Guliani to George Tenet, was handled with kid gloves and lauded with accolades. The Commissioners would say, ‘You’re fabulous, you did a fantastic job on 9/11,’ and they would run out the clock. We couldn’t understand what the point was in having a hearing if no substantive questions were being asked or answered. - Lorie Van Auken

And we're supposed to accept their account of that world changing event? I don't understand that logic. As much as I try, I can't understand it.

Is there a "debunker" in the house that can please explain that logic to me?

Subpoena Power

dz is exactly right. Of course the subpoena power didn't work when the Republicans were in power of everything in Washington. But that is why we voted Democratic on Nov. 7th. The main hope we can have now is that these Democratic senators and representatives will use their subpoena power in order to get to the truth that the 911 Commissioners and Republicans didn't have the balls to get to.

Subpoena Power can be used to great effect. Look at the Libby Case, we just need to encourage the current politicians in office to use it to more effect than past politicians did.


Why would the democrats

Why would the democrats expose their buddies? Then the whole jig is up.

that is a great summary...

logical, well sourced, easy to read. I hope you don't mind if I send it off to folks on my list. Properly credited, of course.......

Passing information around.

I think we can handle that medicis. I mean it is the only way we are ever going to see justice for these crimes.

Great Article, interesting site

Is there a whole 9/11 community there? How/where does one access that?

Anger in this Movement.

Anger in this movement is totally justified and necessary. I was angry as hell the day the buildings fell and I'm going to be angry as hell until these fuckers are in jail. Anger motivates me to strive and work for justice.

Use your anger to get after it and kick some ass. Its working for us so far, so let's keep the pressure up. If someone wants to be nice. Thats fine. But my Anger shouldn't be underesimated or put down. That's what happens when people are putting you down and trying to control you on a global basis. Fuckin' A. Be Angry. It is the most appropriate response to what is occurring.


Yeah, we've got to...

...."catapult" the OUTRAGE...

Time is our enemy.

9/11 = TREASON


what now GW? With all the damning information us truthers have.More than enough to convict anybody who does a crime.
What the hell is it going to take?


I won't be presumptuous enough to try to answer. If you look back at history, you realize that people at the time couldn't tell when things would change, when the "tipping point" would be reached. History shows that you can never tell when things will shift.

If we keep pushing as hard as we can with discipline, intellect, passion, and commitment, we can win.

But (smarter people than me might disagree) I don't think we can tell in advance exactly WHICH strategy will do it.

I am really excited about all of the great postings at 911blogger

- Some of them by people who are new to 9/11 truth

- Some of them people who have never written publicly before, but really put the elbow grease in and write great essays

- Some of them who have such integrity and authenticity that it is who they are that speaks volumes, and they barely need to write anything to get their message across.

We each bring our own talents, skills and passion to spreading 9/11 truth and justice. Let's roll up our sleaves and get to it!

In that vein

and forgive me for maybe coming across as sentimental, I'm uplifted by the collective integrity of the people that make up this movement - you guys - and I'm confident we can make a change if we remain determined. To come to grips with 9/11 Truth, it takes people

-who care
-who are curious
-who are open minded
-who will not be intimidated

In short, good people. The kind of people that might just make this world a better place by standing up to the madness that has been allowed to spread. Once enough of us realize that it's just foul institutions - machinations created by men - that hold us down, that we can undo these creations if only we dare, that we the people truly hold the power, not the few insatiable traitors we temporarily delegated it to, then our path into the future will split into a plethora of possibilities - good and bad - most of which appear much more promising than being herded into a New World Order under the iron grip of tyrants. Give me liberty, or give me death!


On a tactical note, I believe we should consider widening our cause of informing the public to include the Federal Reserve, IRS and overall money scam. Not only will it lead the spotlight closer to those who truly pull the strings and preclude any limited hangout contingencies, but it will generate public interest (no pun intended) by means of something most people value more than their ideals: Money.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
--Henry Ford


..........Is honor & integrity too much to ask of our goverment?
Nice response GW.....It is hard to believe,that it's been going on six years.Even harder to believe with all the evidence we have that NO ONE IN POWER HAS ANY BALLS to step up and demand what is right!

It has been my experience

that the biggest obstacle to change, even bigger than denial, is the conviction of many people that they were absolutely powerless and better submit to the system right away. This is obviously wrong on many levels, but it still is a widespread belief...

honor and integrity.

I hate to be facetious but, yes, honor and integrity are too much to ask from your/our government. It's simply not their stock-in-trade. Deceit is! (With rare exceptions of course.)
Like the Col says, Impeachment, Accountability, etc.

honor and integrity.

I hate to be facetious but, yes, honor and integrity are too much to ask from your/our government. It's simply not their stock-in-trade. Deceit is! (With rare exceptions of course.)
Like the Col says, Impeachment, Accountability, etc.

a note on the fed and IRS issue...

I actually am all for including these. At the recent Boston 911 truth film festival, a very lefty quaker type asked me why the issue was related to 9/11. He seemed a bit irked by what he perceived as the presence of right wing "don't pay taxes" ideas. This just goes to show one of the things we fight against is the knee-jerk reactions that characterize american political viewpoints under the dominant left/right paradigm. It can be pointed out to these folks that if the government instead of private banks printed money, the government would never have to borrow--it would simply pay for everything provided by the government with money it prints for free. This money will then be spent on goods and services provided by other americans. As long as we are, as a country, producing things that are desirable, we will be able to balance our imports with exports. None of this really has to do with left vs right, more to do with public versus private control over national wealth. It might be a good idea to practice making the case for the fed/IRS reform to people used to thinking of libertarians as just out to not share anything with anyone...


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9/11 Truth is truly a non-partisan issue

While I agree the the issues around "the Federal Reserve, the IRS and the overall money scam" should also be considered non-partisan, some folks will not see it that way and they will be turned off.

Whenever you add secondary issues you take a real risk of diluting the message and limiting the number of people who will be drawn to your cause.

I think that it is safe to say that following the new 9/11 investigations and 9/11 trials there will be a wholesale re-examination of all these issues and they will be seriously addressed then.

IMO, it is best to leave these issues to a later date or form independent groups that focus on these secondary issues.

I completely agree with you that the 9/11 Truth movement is populated by an amazing number of truly good people.

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Fleshing Out Skull and Bones E-Book online:

I'm not sure why newmexico.indymedia has this page as hidden, perhaps they don't want me to use their server space to upload this rather large ebook?? it's only thirtysomething mb's...

anyway, get it while you can. It's pretty good.

On a side note: The comment

On a side note:
The comment section of the Daily Mail article (An explosion of disbelief - fresh doubts over 9/11) could use some 9/11 truth there! Please contribute.

Bypass the Internet Comment Censorship !!!

The pro 9/11 truth comments are being "CENSORED" !!!

There were probably 100 plus comments sent in, none were published, yet their "internet comment administrators" allowed through crappy one line hits...

Personally, I would recommend that folks go directly to the editors, thank them and put your feedback to them directly... by all means try and get your comments listed online but don't hold your breath.

Emails to :

It was a great article mind and probably read by millions.

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