Why didn't the 9/11 Commission address the Primary Motive for 9/11?
DHS Fri, 02/16/2007 - 12:31pm
Did 9/11 occur because they "hate our freedoms" or is there another reason for the attacks?
Your thoughts...
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Why they did it:
1. Patriot act
2. Patriot act 2
3. Eliminate the Consitution & Bill of Rights
4. Bring forth the NWO and North American Union
5. Bankrupt the USA to bring forth a NWO
6. Scare americans to give up there right in exchange for "security" when you will just get tyranny and a police state.
7. Justify an Iraq and Afganistan Invasion.
8. Bring forth a Real ID Act, which was passed on 5-11-05, and then the "mark of the beast"
9. To Pretty Much Allow Bush to do anything He wants. Look at this:
http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=504353
10. To allow the Military CommissionsAct of 2006 to Pass, Which Took out 7 Sections of the Bill of Rights. Bringing America Down, Helps Bring in World Government.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15220450/
11. If you Notice Alex Jones speaking at the CSPAN Conference. (Video #5)He says its about World War 3 as well. I dont know to much about this, But If you look at a map. Afganistan is on the Right, Iraq is on the Left, and IRAN Is in the Middle. Once the USA Invades IRAN The US Could control All of the Middle East, and be on the Doorstep with China, for World War 3.
And that is exactly what Bush Co are doing, They are trying to destroy The U.S.A To bring in there One World Powerful Evil.
If you support 9/11 and this evil world government, U must prove so, By recieving an RFID Mark in your right hand or forehead with 666, and you will spend 4ever in Hell. If you refuse you will become a slave for the NWO and be put to death, But you wont goto hell :)
Police State 3 By Alex Jones is good on this.
Nice video
I hate our support for the state of Israel. If you study the formation of the state of Israel, it was founded by militant bolshevik communist from Germany Poland and Russia and the great USA. It is sick to think that if you don't support Zionism or Israel you can possibly be labled a anti-semite a jew hater or some other nonsense like that. People have to be aware of the history. 95% of all Jew's in America dont have a clue of whats really being done in there name (niether does the rest of the Americans) these Hardcore communist Jew's that run the state of Israel could care less about there fellow Jewish race they only care about the elite in the NWO circle. Study WW11 and he involvement of Zionism and the rise of Hitler.
Israeli elites, and... ?
Don't you suppose the so-called elites everywhere are about the same? I am speaking of the more secretive of the power-mongers. I think of our current crop as one nation, more or less, be it ISI or CIA or Mossad or Sevak or, for that matter, variations on the Mafia and so on, in Russia and in Central America and, unfortunately, all over.
I am puzzling over how we all fit in. M.K. Gandhi stated that "evil does not exist unless we support it." I think he is probably stating a basic law of life. So I am trying to fugure out how it is that you and I have supported this dreadful mess -- to figure out how to stop supporting it.
The big guys can never do anything that doesn't depend on little guys doing the real work. You and I and everyone here are the little guys (and gals too I guess we'd have to say).
Well
a) they leech off our GDP by the giant money scam and b) "all it requires for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing"
Yep
In other words, they did it "...because they hate our freedoms." So we can answer DHS's question in the affirmative.
The trick is, identify who 'they' is. 911 Mysteries says, "We know..."
And we do indeed know who is taking away the freedoms. Surely that gives us all a start on figuring out who did this? who actually planned it and put it into action.
It's a trick question...
Hijackers did not attack us on 9/11. Planes were flown into the twin towers which had been prewired for demolition and something was flown/fired at the Pentagon.
The purpose was money and power for certain people, the mechanism was threefold:
1) blame muslims so as to gain public support for a massive invasion of the middle east and central asia
2) align US and Israeli interests in the public mind around a mutual hatred of and feeling of victimization by Arab Muslims.
3) get rid of huge problematic buildings cheaply so as to build new buildings on cleaned out site, in process destroying evidence of massive financial crimes.
The perps represent rabid right-wing Zionist Israeli and American Neocon ideology.
Once done, the financial rewards that flowed as a result helped encourage people to keep a lid on it.
This argument about motives is a TOTAL red herring.
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If hijackers did not attack us...
who flew the planes into the towers?
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Planes
I believe the planes were under remote control, after a toxic gas was released knocking out the passengers on board.
Definitely under remote control
There is NO way that amateur pilots, who could barely fly a single engine Cessna, would be able to complete those complicated maneuvers with a large commercial aircraft.
Pilots for 9/11 truth have a lot to say on this subject as well.
Red Herring
Mr. Real Truther your last comment (This argument about motives is a TOTAL red herring.) Motivation is the key of solving any criminal case in which 911 is. I agree with the concept about the red herring, If a Zionists involvement is true then it can never be exposed because of there influence in the Media, Politics, Academia, hell even in this movement. So if anyone going to fry on 911 it wont be because of a Zionist conspiracy or anything of that nature. Is that what your eluding to.
It's a red herring because...
The motives being discussed are those of the hijackers that didn't exist.
As I understand it, the argument is that Bush has said all along that "the hijackers and al Qaeda attacked us because we are a beacon of freedom" BUT some people want him to be honest and say "the hijackers attacked us because we are sucky to them by propping up their dictators, stealing their oil, and blindly supporting Israel"
On the face of it, this is a reasonable charge.
EXCEPT that it has nothing to do with 9/11. It speaks to motivation for some vague anti-Americanism in the Arab world. That motivation is used to prop up the official cover story that because they are so upset with us for those reasons, naturally they wished to perpetrate 9/11. As such it is a red herring.
"They" did not perpetrate 9/11, and if "they"had anything to do with it it was to be set up as fall guys, knowingly or not.
The motives for the real perps it what should be discussed. If you think the real perps were al Qaeda, show us the evidence. The entire official investigation was charged with proving that and it failed. If we had a real investigation into every aspect of 9/11, I think we would find that the real perps were motivated by the list I enumerated above.
You are free to disagree, of course, and that's why we post here, to explain what we believe and why we believe it. And what needs to be done.
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I agree
I didnt understand that you were eluding to the message that The motives being discussed are those of the hijackers that didn't exist. I thought you were stating the The perps represent rabid right-wing Zionist Israeli and American Neocon ideology.
Once done, the financial rewards that flowed as a result helped encourage people to keep a lid on it.
This argument about motives is a TOTAL red herring. I thought the motives of those people were the red herring i understand now
I am just a man living in the sticks with my wife and four children in vermont were there is no people for miles around me I didnt go to Havard I went to college but most of my education was learned out of that enviorment
but you no what they about common sense it isnt that common
common sense is pretty rare
and much more useful than the fantasy world one learns about in college... imagination and intelligence sadly don't always go hand in hand, either. thanks for contibuting your views--it takes a village to expose a conspiracy, or somethin like that!'
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I do not think it's a trick question
the question of the motive is in fact important
If we assume there where real hijackers and suicide bombers, why shoud we believe in these ridiculous explanations like they "hate us for our freedom".
Terror before 911 was mostly connected to a real politicial goal.
Only state sponsored terror has no other goal as bring fear to the normal population (see Gladio documents!)
The OCT about the motives of the alleged hijackers or Bin Laden is weak on this point, at best.
Even better recognizable is this with the alleged british 7/7 bombers. They behave normal, had wifes and children, good jobs, no hint for strange behaviour or fundamentalism, and suddenly: Bang, bombed themselves into air.
This is so strange, the officials even brought up a new explanation why they turn to suicide terrorists. Sorry that I forgot the details about it.
But for me it remains deeply suspect.
PS: If there were real hijackers there were moles. Or patsies. Or such stuff. But I doubt it.
Reasons for Anger against U.S.
This above video is scant at best. They don't address the anger Osama and some other Muslims hold against us because of our putting military bases on their "holy land" in Saudia Arabia after the first Gulf War. They don't address the fact that Osama would be mad as hell if the CIA propped them up to fight the Soviets in the 80's in Afghanistan and then left them for dead after they served the American purpose. These angers, which I believe are legitimate, could easily be used to manipulate the muslims into being a pawn for our quest for American Empire and patsies on Sept. 11th.
-- Military Bases on Muslim "Holy Land"
-- Left high and dry after Afghan/Soviet War of 1980's
That will piss off the average religious freedom fighter.
you are forgetting that the "mastermind"
is Khalid Sheikh Mohammad... it references KSM's main reason for the attack.
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how was KSM's mastermind role determined?
Has there been a trial that I missed? Or is this based on the "testimony" KSM provided to the commission, through his CIA interrogators?
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It sounds good.
There's only one problem: His name is Tim Osman, he was recruited by the CIA back in 1979, he had ties to the US terrorism protecting embassy in Jeddah where he studies, and he fought together with the US even in Bosnia in the late ninetees.
It's true, the common men in the middle east have all the reasons of the world to hate the US. But this line does not necessarily apply for the corrupt self appointed leaders who just want power and money...
I'm sorry DHS
I would not recommend this video to anyone.
It supports the government myth that 9/11 was a Muslim plot to attack the USA and we know that just ain't so.
Phony hijackers don't have real motives.
For the video to be useful it needs additional material added, but this will be interpreted by many as "blame our relationship with Israel for 9/11" and that is not a good meme to be promulgating.
Better to talk about the motives of the actual perps.
It's true that much of the real terrorism committed in the region is due to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict and the US does blindly support Israel, but this has nothing to do with 9/11.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Be well.
dual loyalty
Have you ever heard the term dual loyalty we dont have any muslims working in our State dept that possibly could have any influence on any foreign policy. I wonder what country does?
Phony?
All of this is phony?
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maybe, maybe not
one possibility is that these kids are morons who actually believe that bin Laden did carry out the attacks, i.e. who have no idea that those buildings were demolished with explosives. Why wouldn't they want to take credit? Makes them feel empowered after all. This is not that complicated DHS. Another is that they're ACTORS. Yes, actors are very very real.
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Just...
Make up whatever story you're most comfortable with, and go with it. There is a "psychological" need for it after all.
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
Yes
"they" (whoever that means) took the FBI pictures of each alleged ringleader for the four planes in some of the videos.
Come on!
Where does the Al Qaeda does get its pictures from- from the FBI?
A question never really answered is: How could the FBI bring up photos (not some photos, pass port looking pictures) of each of the alleged hijacker in just a week?
Do they have a photo-archieve of Al Qaida? Sure...
"Why didn't the 9/11
"Why didn't the 9/11 Commission address the Primary Motive for 9/11?"
Self-defense.
This...
Is actually an interesting question. What was the motive for the alleged hijackers to attack us? Why is it taboo to talk about it? Is it because "they hate us for our freedoms" wouldn't look good in a "report?" Is it because the obvious motivation for someone from that region to attack America is because of our favortism towards Israel over everybody else? Bringing up that particular subject is a no no. As the movie illustrates.
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton