Hundreds Who Say Government Lied About 9/11 To Meet In Chandler


Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 02.19.2007

MESA - Hundreds of people who believe the government has lied about the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States plan to gather in Chandler later this week to strategize about how to find out the truth.

The 9/11 Accountability: Strategies and Solutions Conference will be held Friday through Sunday at the Crowne Plaza San Marcos Golf Resort in Chandler.

The conference will include keynote speakers, panel discussions, strategy workshops and a documentary film marathon.

Theories on what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, include one that the government planted bombs to bring down the World Trade Center towers and another is that an air-to-air missile shot down United Flight 93 in Pennsylvania.

"We don't believe we've been told the whole truth about what happened on that dreadful day," said Pete Creelman, a member of 911 Truth of Arizona, based in Phoenix.

The local group is one of many nationwide that have sprouted since the attacks. The group meets twice a month in both Phoenix and Mesa.

Nearly 300 people have bought tickets to the conference. Organizers are hoping to double that with tickets sold at the door.

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"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton


See you there........Jon.

Who else from blogger will be joining us in that warm Arizona desert sun?(75 last time i checked). Coming from CT, I could really use some that.

And, any word on why Alex Jones has been removed as a participant on the web site?

You're going?

Cool. To my knowledge, the people from that are going is:

Jon Gold
Radical Pragmatist
Mr. 7 something? (I can't remember everyone's alias)

The people that weren't cool enough to attend:
Everybody else.

"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton


will be there too. :)

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Should be a great conference...unity & accountability...

...great things on which to focus.

I've read where the Loose Change guys will not be there because of mainstream media hype and  a twisted allegation that Eric D. Williams is allegedly a holocaust denier. Perhaps that is Jones's reason too.

I heard Eric speak on THE MERIA HELLER SHOW recently and he is a bright guy and NOT a holocaust denier. In any event, the conference is NOT about Hitler's Holocaust. It's about unity and accountability and how the criminals behind 9/11 will be brought into the light and brought to justice.

With the conference's focus, hopefully distractions (like the anti-Semite allegations) will be at a minimum so good work may be done on what needs to be done.


I'm going

along with a few others from San Diego 9/11 truth. We're excited to meet all you bloggas...


youre thinking of eric

youre thinking of eric hufschmid, and he is.

Eric Hufschmid is also a

Eric Hufschmid is also a moon landing denier. This ignorant and juvenile meme is like kryptonite to the millions of people who participated in the Apollo program. He is in fact listed on Wikipedia as the leading moon landing denier:

I would not wish to be associated with Eric Hufschmid in any way. Of note, in spring 2001, it was Fox Entertainment who pushed the moon landing denial meme by broadcasting a moon landing denial special - narrated by an X files actor - twice. This was in the same season that Fox broadcast the notorious 'Lone Gunmen' pilot episode with a WTC theme.

In summary, just as Fox's 24 is current propaganda, the Lone Gunmen and Moon Hoax shows were psyops as well. Eric Hufschmid very nicely follows the Fox script to label dissidents as mentally ill losers.

You guys have your ERICS mixed up...

I initially mentioned Eric Williams NOT Hufschmid...

This was all in reference to this "Press Release".... It actually doesn't matter because the Arizona conference will be a success as we are focusing on 9/11 accountabilty. And, to reiterate, Eric Williams is NOT a holocaust denier. You can hear Meria Heller and Eric discuss this briefly on THE MERIA HELLER SHOW.

Louder Than Words and Alex Jones are not necessary for every single 9/11 event. This topic is much bigger than any one radio host or video crew.

LTW Press Release

Louder Than Words LLC will no longer be able to participate in the upcoming 9/11 Accountability Conference in Arizona on February 23rd - 25th, due to the involvement of Eric D. Williams who has authored a book promoting Holocaust denial, entitled "The Puzzle Of Auschwitz."

Louder Than Words LLC does not associate in any way with Holocaust denial groups, hate groups, or fringe conspiracy theory groups of any kind. We regret not being able to attend, and this does not reflect in any way our passion for seeking the truth regarding 9/11.

We apologize to anyone who was anticipating our presence.

Show "Three Elements to Holocaust Denial" by Brainster

No one in this movement is a...

Holocaust Denier. This movement is about truth and accountability for the attacks of 9/11. Those who are trying to portray this movement as such OBVIOUSLY do not have the best interests of this movement at heart. The conference is called, "9/11 Accountability: Strategies & Solutions Conference". This conference has NOTHING to do with "Holocaust Denial".

Eric Williams did the right thing by stepping down, and I commend him for it.

The people who are behind the conference have received a TREMENDOUS amount of flack for what happened.

Time to move on.

"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Show "Eric Hufschmid? Rick Rajter? Carol Valentine? Kevin Barrett?" by Brainster

3 questions for king midas

So he did step down? Then why are Jones and LC still not going? and was he really a holocaust denier?

My answer, not that you asked me

Yes, he stepped down. Yes, he has written a book that is revisionist in its approach to the Holocaust.

I have no idea why, given that the conference is a project of Arizona 9/11 Truth and not just this one guy, who was "purged," the LC guys and Alex Jones still wouldn't go. It makes me think less of them.

You guys: Alex Jones and the

You guys: Alex Jones and the Loose Change crew have previous engagements during these events. They have stated this on their respective radio shows.
Alex Jones said he simply can't do it since he has some filming to do on his new movie and Dylan Avery and crew were supposed to be in L.A. filming and they were gonna drive to Arizona but there was a production change so now they can't make it in time.
This is what they said personally.
They both said they really wish they could attend.

Well, 'cept that the LC guys specifically said

it was because of Eric D. Williams' participation, on the LC forum.

I don't know about Alex Jones, so I retract my "think less of" comment. There certainly is no need for *everyone* to be at every conference.

depends on how you define "deny" or "holocaust"

This is one of those issues that almost no one understands, so it makes sense that people have such strong feelings. What some call holocaust denial is simply the act of trying to determine with accuracy what the Nazis crimes against Jews entailed. They base their approach on the following:

1) the number of Jews killed by the Nazis has been exaggerated. This is not denied by anyone, since the number has already been revised down by mainstream scholars.

2) methodical extermination does not seem to have been an actual goal of the Nazis. Concentration camps were indeed forced labor camps where Jews and others were forced to work, and many died from disease and malnutrition, as did many germans especially towards the end of the war. There is simply no evidence that the Germans intended to "kill all the jes". If that had been their intention there would have been far fewer survivors than there were.

3) there is no evidence for the use of gas chambers for mass murder. Like the number of dead, the accounts of atrocities have also been revised by mainstream scholars, who in addition to rejecting accounts of lampshades and soap being made out of jews, also now deny that gas chambers were used at many of the camps where it had been claimed.

See Canadian Jewish atheist David Cole's documentary here: where he investigates the alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz and finds it to be very unlikely that that's what it was used for.

Warning: there used to be a better link for the video which disappeared from google shortly after it was linked to here last time this issue came up. While the Cole video is obviously not anti-Semitic I can't vouch for the user's other films.


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


There's no need to rehash this again

Not until the next time, and there WILL be a next time.


I hope you've all listened to the interview with Dr. William F. Pepper.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.


The part where he talked about anti-semitism.

"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

tsk tsk

To play devil's advocate, isn't it weird that almost 40 years after the first moon landing (which was followed by a few more) no one has ever ben able to do it again? Oh, you can argue that no one has CHOSEN to do it, because it's too expensive or whatever, but I would argue that that isn't very convincing. Anything that was possible to do 40 years ago should be much easier and cheaper to do today--I can't think of any exception to that, let me know if you can. The computers used back then filled up rooms but had the power of a modern pocket calculator. However you look at it, it's bizarre. And that doesn't begin to cover all the other anomalies, like the odd behavior of the astronauts at their triumphant press conference...

Does it ever occur to anyone that Hufschmid YES, is an agent, and that his role is to conflate all these things so as to make it easier for people to reject them all together as opposed to having to evaluate each one by one? That if you give people something TOO big to chew on, they won't even bother trying to swallow it? I find no otehr way to reconcile Eric Hufschmid's bizarre connection to Rupert Murdoch (half-sister married to his son). Each of these stories has some fishy aspects, and lumping them togetehr means they sink or swim together--what better way to protect each one?

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery!

Now, cue the chorus of people booing me for "making the movement look like a bunch of loonies"!

Forgive me for trying to CONSISTENTLY think outside the box in the face of what we KNOW to be SOPHISTICATED psy-ops.

Let everyone make up their own mind, and let the chips fall where they may. No one said this would be easy! Challenge yourself... :)


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Booo! Youre making the movement look like a bunch of loonies!;-P

Yes, there are odities about the moon landing pictures--personally I think they were touched up. Because the crappy black and white stark photos that one would actually get at the time would hardly inspire the public to continue to support the project"s funding.

I would be willing to discuss this--somewhere ELSE than 911Blogger. You have another site? ;-)

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

It is really too bad

that the LC guys fell for the screw loose change idiots' ploy, trying to make Eric D Williams into a Holocaust "denier". No truth to that and the SLC fraud accomplished their mission.

The "Open and Caring Nature" of Auschwitz

Williams, talking about Auschwitz referred to the "open and caring nature of the camp". How you can spin this to not be Holocaust denial is beyond me.

If he was not a Holocaust denier, then why did the conference kick him out and deny any connection to him?

Please point out a single thing that Screw Loose Change got wrong on this story.

comparative internment

I think that the issue of the holocaust really should be separated from the issue of injecting the holocaust into discussion of 9/11.

I think that while Eric Williams may well have been planted in the AZ confeence to make the truth movement look bad, that doesn't mean that he is a hater (necessarily.)

I think that the deliberate conflation of 9/11 revisionism with holocaust revisionism is done so as to protect both public myths from scrutiny. I think this was idiotic on the part of anyone who thought that this would be effective. First of all, no one in their right mind is going to ignore the obvious case of 9/11 being a fraud just because people they consider unsavory think so as well. It's like saying "hey, did you know neo-nazis all drink orange juice? you SHOULDN'T!!"

Secondly, seeing as how 9/11 was such an obvious and huge lie, it naturally makes people more open to consider other historical truths as being up for scrutiny that would have previously been unthinkable. Certainly 9/11 has taught me not to take ANYTHING for granted. If it's true, it will stand up to scrutiny.

By throwing the holocaust in my face because I am a 9/11 truther, they simply made me wonder--WHY conflate the two, if one is so obviously false and the other presumably true? It made no sense to me, so I decided to look into it. And I discovered that there is a reason why neo-Nazis get so much press. They are the poster children for everything we should want not to be, reinforcing our reluctance to examine accepted history for fear of being tarred with the same brush as haters. The same tactic WILL be used against 9/11 truth, so it is worth understanding and probing deeply.

The bottom line I've found is that war victimizes millions so much that it is wrong to parse out the victimization and try to make one group more victimized than others. This competition is what led to the exaggeration of Nazi crimes like the allegation of lampshades and soap being made out of their victims. This embellishment was unnecessary (depending on your point of view, some poeple may have found it useful) and cannot be ignored, since it raises the very important question of why we believed it to be true for so long.

Because so many have so much riding on the official narrative of the holocaust, just as so many have so much riding on the official narrative of 9/11, these two issues are unfortunately entangled now in a historiographical context. We can, of course, choose to approach either or both in a dispassionate spirit of inquiry or emotionally based on what we want to believe as opposed to what we can infer from the historical record.

It will have to be said over and over--the truth needs no laws or taboos to protect it, and the more one protests inquiries into something the more it seems that something is being hidden. It is simply not good enough anymore to say that "everyone knows that is true, so we don't have to prove it." or "it's already been proven a million times." We know these words from our 9/11 denying friends--should we not wonder at the motives of others who repeat them, almost verbatim, when it comes to other contentious issues?

This is not to say that tehre aren't right and wrong ways of approaching historical revision--there are. One ofthe worng ways is to hystericaly frame an issue as one between honest believers and hateful lying revisionists. Who does that help exactly?

Is it right to ever describe a forced labor camp as open and caring? Of course not! But how many reading this had any idea that Auschwitz had an inmate swimming pool? That even mainstream historians agree that 95% of the lethal gas used was used for delousing to prevent typhoid outbreaks? That Auschwitz had a theatre where inmates produced and attended shows? That Auschwitz inmates were issued special paper money to use? These are all true facts that point not to an open and caring environment but to a much more complicated scenario than that portrayed in popular legend. It doesn't mean that Jews didn't suffer, or that they weren't unjustly treated, but that their mistreatment was not so different from our own internment of Japanese in the US. Or from the allied firebombing of civilians in Dresden, or atomic annihilation of Japanese civilians.

A mature people can handle these questions without resorting to baseless accusations of wicked intentions I would hope. If not, then you can be sure that the truth of 9/11 will one day be relegated to the category of "forbidden truth".


Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero - Harvard Task Force


Show "TV Newscasters on 9/11 were Reading from Scripts" by CB_Brooklyn


Siegel giving you a cut from 9/11 Eyewitness sales?

"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

BerkshireTruth I'll be


I'll be there. Hopefully it'll be hotter inside than outside.

Make Legal Rubber grip. Don't slide off!

I hear this is THE conference where "LEGAL RUBBER IS TO GRIP THE ROAD", where the ONLY focus is to get a date for SUBPOENA POWER hearing.

I wish you luck!

Please laugh off the shitty defamations (holocaust deniers crap) IT MATTERS NOT. Don't dignify it, do not divide, instead unite -- even with shills and arseholes! Remember that this was Jesus' and Gandhi's trick ... and it worked.

You know what time it is?

Quench the 911truth movement once and for all...

Not only is the time ripe, but there isn't much time left if we are to head off any more dire repercussions on the world-stage:

Since the "official conspiracy" is all about Arabs, Planes, and Crumbling Buildings, and these issues are known throughout the World, and therefore could not be "State Secrets" OR "Threats to National Security", We the Undersigned, do Hereby request Full FOIA Disclosure of All Evidence And Information Surrounding the Terrorist Attacks of 9/11/2001.

I propose a 30,000,000 signature paper-petition drive demanding a Full FOIA Disclosure of All Evidence and Information be delivered to Washington, DC in a short matter of WEEKS... I have a press, and could produce the paper-petitions themselves with a little help.

This is about bringing TRANSPARENCY into the field... Every single progressive challenge today could be solved with transparency and its resultant scrutiny by the public.

If the government has nothing to hide, there should be no resistance.

"Peel back the Veil of Freedom for Our Generation, this is Our Tour of Duty"

What about Jim Hoffman?

I understand Jim Hoffman will not be there. I'd like to know why not. Was he invited? If not, why not?

Sometimes I suspect that anyone who does not completely buy into the no-757-Pentagon idea is being purged from the mainstream Truth Movement. Is that correct?

Jim Hoffman is a very busy guy.

This isn't a research conference.

Don't look for things that don't exist.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.