Barrett Interview re Fake Bin Laden Confession to Be Rebroadcast

I believe that Kevin Barrett's interview with Osama Bin Laden expert Bruce Lawrence is one of the most important interviews in a while. Therefore, I am happy that the interview will be rebroadcast next week, February 26th, 3-4pm Central Time. If anyone records it, please let us know. As Barrett says by email:

Top U.S. Bin Laden Expert: Confession Video “Bogus”
http://mujca.com/hoax.htm
Here’s the biggest 9/11 truth story in weeks, complete with all the links. Kevin Barrett’s interview with Osama expert Bruce Lawrence will be replayed on “Dynamic Duo,” http://gcnlive.com, next Monday, Feb. 26th, 3-4pm CT. See radio and lecture schedule: http://mujca.com/airwaves.htm

Barrett also says "Please email your congressional representatives with the subject header “investigate bogus Bin Laden ‘confession video’ NOW!” and include a copy of this article in the body of the message."

I support Barrett's call for an email campaign to congress, although I would recommend waiting until someone posts a link to the actual interview.

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why does it matter? its just

why does it matter? its just another piece of the puzzle that happens to grab some people. i dont understand self-censorship and being selective with the evidence. simply showing the video and pointing out how it could be fake is a good thing. it is only embarrassing for "9/11 truth" if it is the sole reason put forward to doubt the offical story. it is only one small piece of a very large puzzle and i for one dont see the problem with putting forward all the evidence posible. you never know which evidence is going to grab different people so its best to put forward as much as possible. this isnt energy weapons or CGI. i dont think 9/11 was an inside job because of the phony bin laden confession tape, but i know that in the early stages a few years ago it was one of the many things that grabbed my attention and caused me to dig deeper. same with the so called "honeypot" the pentagon. again, it should never be the only evidence put forward but it shouldnt be ignored like some tend to think.

I think you clearly are missing the point.

How many times has someone dismissed what you're trying to say about 9/11 with "But he confessed!" I have never felt comfortable trying to argue that the video was faked, although it seems highly probable that it was. (It's provenance should be damning in itself -- for those it doesn't tweak I have a nice paddle emblazoned with the words "John Michael Karr.") I have argued the denials that he made before that video was released are much more credible in terms of source. That "he's a controlled CIA asset" is not where I want to go first.

But now, to have an expert add to the evidence by saying he believes the video to be faked, knocks one more support from under the OCT.

If he confessed, why does

If he confessed, why does even the FBI say they have no hard evidence that he had anything to do with 9/11?
Why is the video completely inconsistent with previous videos?
Why does the top bin laden expert now say it is faked?

If they would fake a confession video, they would do ANYTHING.
This is a huge news and very important.

"How many times has someone

"How many times has someone dismissed what you're trying to say about 9/11 with "But he confessed!" I have never felt comfortable trying to argue that the video was faked, although it seems highly probable that it was. (It's provenance should be damning in itself -- for those it doesn't tweak I have a nice paddle emblazoned with the words "John Michael Karr.") I have argued the denials that he made before that video was released are much more credible in terms of source. That "he's a controlled CIA asset" is not where I want to go first.

But now, to have an expert add to the evidence by saying he believes the video to be faked, knocks one more support from under the OCT. "

i guess my contention lies with my belief that the video only COULD be fake, i am not convinced it is fake, and im a full on MIHOPPER (controlled demolitioon , etc) im just surprised frankly that so many truthers selectively pick one single frame (the wierdest one) and compare it to an actual picture of bin laden. Yes he looks fatter in this video but other screen shots ive seen (not just thaqt selective one frame) look very much like bin laden. Im not saying it is him for sure, but this is an example of something the 9./11 truth movement manipulative uses to prove their case., I frankly think it can be easily discredited once you show other frames of the video, and pictures from other videos of Bin laden wearing gold rings. I also don't think the FBI saying he is right handed is definitive, how does the FBI know this for certain?

and in the video doesn't bin laden just admit he knew of the attacks and hoped they went well? it doesn't seem like true confession to me. And secondly lets say the video is 100% authentic, and he really did confess in full. Is a confession proof of a crime? No, a confession by itself does not stand up in a court of law unless evidence exists to prove it. Bin laden is a huge figure head, if i was him i would probably want to take credit on the hugest terrorist attack on the US government also. If he didn't someone else would have.

thanks for the link

I like the way this story provides a link for contacting Congress. I have been thinking for a long time that I wish the 9/11 Truth Movement had one of these fancy faxing systems, like you will find at ACLU, Environmental Defense and others. Numbers USA has an excellent one. There is usually already a draft of a letter, which you can edit and send with literally a few clicks. I suppose this would be a very expensive system to implement and operate. It would have to be a joint effort of 911truth.org and some others. If anyone going to the conference in Arizona has an opportunity to bring this up, please do. With a system like that, we could flood Congress and others whenever a particular issue comes up.

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i can cut and paste too......

though i tend to trust the FIRST statements of Bin Laden post 9/11 rather than the obvious propaganda that was bound to follow and people like you were bound to fall for:

Source: Khilafah.com, 10 Oct 2001

The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks, and to express gratitude and support for Pakistan, urging Pakistan’s people to jihad against the West. The following is the text of an interview conducted by a "special correspondent", published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat on 28 September, place and date of interview not given.

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UMMAT: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this? If you are not involved, who might be?

USAMA BIN LADEN: In the name of Allah (God), the most beneficent, the most merciful. Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the Earth as an abode for peace, for the whole humankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) for our guidance. I am thankful to the Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and momin (true Muslim) people of Pakistan who refused to believe the lies of the demon (Pakistani military dictator General Pervez Musharraf).

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.

The U.S. has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates. However, our case is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge there is no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that it will be disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world nations upholding their freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of the United States, or the U.S. itself considers them as its enemies.

The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush Administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They can be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the U.S. itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are capable of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American-Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.

Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Usama and Taleban and then this incident happened. You see, the Bush Administration approved a budget of 40 billion dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their importance. Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.

http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

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"You are choosing to trust

"You are choosing to trust them simply because it fits your theory, not because they are any more reliable."

no buddy, that would be you. you trust only what defense contractors and media moguls with agendas tell you. do you EVER look outside of CNN,Time,NBC etc. for your news? is he lying? who is he again?

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does he explain the

does he explain the contradiction in the statements? do you? dont try it asshole, ive seen you around, all you can do is cut and paste like most pro "debunkers". what motivates you? i always ask shills this. try not to say its because the 9/11 Commission needs your help in selling their version.

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excuse me, but didnt

excuse me, but didnt Lawrence do nothing more than basically a glorified cut and paste job? you said as much yourself. we must be pretty powerful for you to troll this website and fight us so much huh? thanks for the ego boost. oh, and again your last couple of sentences fit you to a t. it really is quite scary how gullible some of you are. i simply put forward the FIRST statements Bin Laden made after 9/11, and like a typical shill you lie and say i praised Lawrence for his(different) bin laden qoutes that he cut and pasted. again, whatever fits your agenda. did Lawrence do that interview with Bin Laden? he works for Pakistani newspaper Ummat? no? didnt think so jackass. if Lawrence thinks the tape is fake and is willing to go on record, good for him, i WILL praise him for that. that doesnt mean the fact that he trusts the sources he gathered those qoutes from are indeed from Bin Laden. you see, i didnt need Lawrence to come forward, i already had doubts about this confession tape. you dont seem to be able to grasp that.

who did i call an expert? i

who did i call an expert? i simply provided you with the FIRST statement Bin Laden made after 9/11. you got me, im too "lazy" to read screwloosechange. if you want call it laziness.....

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you wanna play semantics now

you wanna play semantics now i see. Barrett called him an expert. i dont blame him, it does bolster his argument, sort of like how you're playing semantics right now right? trapped in a corner James, once you start playing word games you know its bad. so i'll play your little game and ask you, do you trust Lawrence is a Bin Laden expert? are his bin laden qoutes real? you seem to think so right? i guess that means you have to take the fact that he is calling this confession tape a fraud VERY seriously huh? right James?

Semantics

How is it semantics for me to quote the very article you are commenting on? Is expecting you to actually read something considered some sort of dirty trick? That is bizarre.

I will tell you what, I will concede that Barrett's "expert" believes that the bin Laden "confession" video is fake, if you will concede that that this same expert published a book, which he believes is true, with 4 separate statements where bin Laden said that Arabs carried out 9/11.

Agreed? Can you actually be intellectuallly consistent for a minute?

absolutely, statements that

absolutely, statements that HE BELIEVED were from Bin Laden. HE HIMSELF did not interview Bin Laden like the Pakistani newspaper that did WHEN HE DENIED 9/11. jesus christ you are slow(or are you just playing games still because your cornered?). im consistent, you on the other hand.......

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uhhhh, dont terrorist

uhhhh, dont terrorist masterminds like to take credit for the crimes they commit? circular logic........

Since when has a confession

Since when has a confession been used as evidence in a trial?
If the husband gave details of the murder, alibies, and his story with the evidence checked out ALONG with the confession, then it would hold weight.

Just recently, look at the John Mark Karr case.
A confession means nothing. And since the top bin laden expert just stated today that the original video is fake, why couldn't all of them be fake?
Why would there be any need to fake a confession video? That is high treason.

OK, I'll agree. The

OK, I'll agree. The original video is fake and all the others, according to an old book that he wrote says others are real, right? So, when he wrote the old book, he also still believed the original video was real. He only just came out.
I can guarantee he is going to analyze the others more throughly now. If it took him 5+ years to realize the original video is fake, he's gonna take some time to get around to the others.

So, the question is: Why would the video be fake and no one be able to realize it until now except for Truthers?
Who would fake it? Why would the administration go along and verify it was legit when it obviously wasn't?

If the faked the original (and most important) video, why wouldn't they fake the others?

First you guys scream and protest that the original video is real and that it could never be faked. Then an expert comes out and you say "OK so it is fake, BUT THE OTHERS ARE REAL!"

How many times do we have to be right? Will you admit you were wrong about the video being faked? Can you now see that the government is very deceitful and the media doesn't call them on this major issue?

Here is some more.

It is interesting that the non-Arabic speakers seemed to be taking over the controls as of the January 2006 audio tape. Aren't we only getting audio now from Osama? I wonder why that is? Maybe the perps are scared to embarrass themselves with these fakes now.

MAMOUN FANDY: Right, but this particular tape is not terribly inspiring, just looking at the language of it. This is the first tape of bin Laden that has no single verse from the Koran. It does not have the flowery language of Arabic.

It seems to me that it is written in English first, and then translated into Arabic. It is very western style of tape. It is not very characteristic of bin Laden, at least it tells me that the non-Arabic speaking within the al-Qaida network are taking over the organization --
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/jan-june06/osama_1-19.html

that was when Karl Rove

that was when Karl Rove underlings started writing the scripts. It was so awful it was embarrassing. They would take democratic talking points, and just have "Osama" say it, so that they could go on Fox News and say that it looks like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean agree completely with Osama Bin Laden.

It was a modern day take on the old bit "that sounds like something Hitler would say"

Trying to follow your logic...

Like many Americans, I witnessed the events of 9/11/01 on television and was mesmerized yet extremely bothered by what I saw happen that day. Things just didn't seem to make sense. How could four hijacked airplanes travel in american airspace for over 90 minutes without any type of interception from our $40 billion air defense industry? Then the Twin Towers both completely collapsed. Then I thought "How in the hell could The Pentagon by struck by an airplane“? The Pentagon is the very symbol of our military strength. When the television crews were showing the 'crash site' of Flight 93 in Shanksville, PA, I found it impossible to believe that a large airliner could crash and disintegrate into such a small hole. Later that evening when I returned home from work and turned on the news I saw the collapse of WTC building 7. Very suspicious! So I had so many nagging questions from that day on...

In the summer of 2002 when the Bush administration started talking about the threats posed by Iraq concerning WMD, I kept listening to the contrary words of Scott Ritter and Hans Blix. Of course, Ritter and Blix were proven to be right. I started researching the 9/11 attacks in late 2003.

So my question to those who criticize the 9/11 Truth Movement is simply this: given our government's pre 9/11 history which has been involved in so many criminal adventures and lies ranging from; the medical tests on the Tuskegee Airmen, the CIA's Operation: MK-ULTRA, Operation Ajax (the 1953 overthrow of Iran), Operation Northwoods, the JFK assassination and subsequent Warren Commission Report, the Gulf of Tonkin lie, Watergate, the 1980 October Surprise, the Iran-Contra Scandal, Iraq-Gate, the false claim of Iraqi soldiers throwing Kuwaiti babies out of their incubators and onto the floor to die (which was the pivotal lie coercing the American public to support the 1990-1991 Gulf War), the entrapment of Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, the massacre at Waco, the Oklahoma City Bombing cover-up (whatever happened to John Doe #2?) ,then given that after 9/11 we've had the PATRIOT Act, domestic spying/wiretapping, extraordinary renditioning, torture, fraudulent elections, the lies leading us into Iraq etc.... YET, we are to believe that the events of 9/11 were solely brought about by 19 Islamic hijackers led by Osama bin Laden in a cave in Afghanistan?

So what those so vehemently opposed to the 9/11 Truth Movement are saying is "Ok, our government has been caught many times in the past doing illegal and immoral activities but on this particular Tuesday of September 11, 2001, our government was telling it's citizens the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Then after 9/11 it went back to it's lying ways again?

You'll have to excuse me if I find that argument to be incredulous.

Please support the 9/11 Families petition for a new, thorough and independent investigation by contacting your local House of Representative member and Senators in Congress at www.house.gov and www.senate.gov.

It's time to wake up.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow

Just one question, Simpleton/Shill.

Is Osama/Usama wanted by the FBI in relation to 911?

I guess that 'confession' holds more weight with you willfully ignorant Lemmings than it does with the feds.

Bin Laden:The people in the

Bin Laden:The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.

now im no fan of the patsy agent Bin Laden, but it seems to me that he sees that the jig is up here. this is Bin Laden confessing he is now officially a scapegoat and off of the payroll so to speak. he cant come out and say it because of his delusional followers, but read between the lines. oh wait, you cant. you can only trust what your favorite corporate news source verifies. my fault James.

OBL Denies Involvement in 9/11 Attacks on 9/16


I see you CONVENIENTLY omitted the following statement...


In the days and weeks immediately following 9/11 there was a self imposed media blackout on reporting any "Bin Laden" statements as they supposedly contained coded messages to his followers.

This resulted in the following statement made on the 16-Sep-2001 by "Osama Bin Laden" to not be broadcasted.



I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons


Source : http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/


Sheesh, talk about "cherry picking"

New article on how the Naudet Brothers' famous 9/11 movie was

pre-arranged/staged (and carefully edited) to showcase & promote the "government's version" of how things happened on 9/11:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/210207Naudets.htm

Is this the type of thing that we should have on the events tab?

Just a thought that it would be good to have both in the blog and in the calendar

Feel free to add...

I had a go not long ago, it's pretty easy.

Tip is to put location / channel in the "event title".

Good luck

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Even Fox News knows: Osama is dead, tapes are fabrications

FOX NEWS
December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."

Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

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Lawrence is no expert

So how is he an expert? .. oh right .. he wrote a foreword on a book.