Demolition?
Hi everyone.
Hope you´ll understand me, I´m from Denmark and might misspell or use wrong terms.
I´ll start by saying I´m NOT a Bush-fan and I don´t want t affend anyone, I really feel for those who lossed their loved ones on 9/11.
Does anyone think it really was a planned demolition that made the twin-towers fall and if it was: WHY?
I guess that´s what everyone wants to know, but I can´t help but to think that tapes of "Controlled freefall"
could be tampered with also. It´s an apolling thought that anyone would do that, but knowing Bush and his wardesires
maybe it´s not such a big surprise. I know that our primeminister went into the war against terrorism on false
conditions, and I really believe that he knew about it, so it isn´t hard for me to imagine Bush as to pull such a stunt.
Afterall it is a very good reason for revenge, isn´t it? Butas a human being I´m puzzled. I don´t get the una-bomber or
Tim McVeigh either, I mean.. To take someones life! Some just doesn´t have a concience.
The evidence speaks for itself, but as seen many times before, people can be payed to say and "prove" anything.
I actually think he could, but what do you, many of you his voters, think? ´
I´m very sorry if this is hurting anyone!
Love Maja
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Maja, I would like to give you an answer:
"Does anyone think it really was a planned demolition that made the twin-towers fall and if it was: WHY?"
There are many reasons that this needed to happen, from the perpetrator's perspective.
Going back to 1993, there WAS a large bombing inside one of the World Trade Center towers, in the parking garage. About 6 people died in the explosion, and several levels of structure were demolished.
This case was treated as a criminal matter by the courts, specifically state courts in New York (I believe).
That was not the goal of the September 11th attacks. These attacks were meant to be a national attack, across states, and to be intimately linked to Islamic "radicals." Project Bojinka provided the convenient tie in to the Islamic radicals.
The 9/11 operation had to be an "act of war" as Dick Cheney said on the evening of 9/11. It had to be a "catastrophic and catalyzing event" as the Project for a New American Century (and Zbigniev Bryzynski) had written about, because its goal was to achieve certain geopolitical aims.
This meant that the 1993 bombing attack scenario would not suffice, and that the buildings needed to come down.
Other reasons for controlling the demoliton were to save lower Manhattan and Wall Street (one block over) from annihilation if the towers toppled over. The "catastrophic and catalyzing event" was meant to rekindle "Pearl Harbor."
The Pearl Harbor event (about 3000 American sailors and several ships lost in one day) had a shock effect on the American populace in 1941. The public went from 80% opposed to participating in World War 2 to 80%+ in favor in one single day, the "day which will live in infamy."
Warmongers remember this kind of historical precedent. That is why it appears in documents like Rebuilding America's Defenses. In a nominal "democracy" it helps to have the people brought onto the side of the warmongers in order to allow them to conduct their wars of choice.
Make no mistake, the September 11th attacks were about giving a green light to the "hyperpower", the American military might. This means wars to bring the greatest oil fields under US control, and the oil revenues securely traded in US dollars for the foreseeable future. These are strategic level decisions, and have solid reasoning and understandable motives. The immorality is not part of the equation in the halls of government here.
To finally anser your question: the evidence suggests a demolition is the most plausible explanation. Buildings don't "collapse" in that manner (turning their entire contents to powder). There may be a small chance they were not demolished intentionally, but the witnesses who were there distinctly remember the sounds and feelings of "explosions" as well as the heat. See the firefighter, police and WTC worker statements, because there are many.
Is it proven 100%? No. Is it proven 95%? Probably, yes. That's a judgement call, but it happens to be the judgement of a lot of people who have investigated this very intensively.
While the other side likes to use ridicule as their primary argument, the facts appear to be on our side.
Find me 1 other skyscraper in history that just turned to pulverized dust and blanketed acres with this dust because of a "gravity collapse."
There are none.
PS
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the Israeli lobby influence in America. The PNAC had several prominent Zionist thinkers on board with the Rebuilding America's Defenses plan. Israeli policy is to demonize the Arabs and to label them all pretty much as "terrorists", a category less than human. This is longstanding policy and in evidence over many years. That policy has been exported to the US through PNAC types, and it binds the Israeli policy goals to US policy goals in the Middle East.
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
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John, this is a very complete reply. Thanks.
But your final note deserves some comment in my opinion. You say, "I would be remiss if I didn't mention the Israeli lobby influence in America. The PNAC had several prominent Zionist thinkers on board with the Rebuilding America's Defenses plan."
In my opinion it doesn't make sense to equate Israeli power-brokers with Zionism. Israeli power-brokers are like any other power-brokers, in terms of morality and loyalties, IMO. I believe the loyalty there is to power, pure and simple, and secondarily to money. I would say it weakens our understanding if we bring in Zionism -- which is a Jewish philosophy of territorial acquisition/expansion and cultural hyper-patriotism.
Zionists do exist in Israel, and also outside of Israel. They are manipulated by Israeli politicians, just as the so-called 'religious right' is in our country. Zealotry gets used by politicians wherever they find it.
You say, "Israeli policy is to demonize the Arabs and to label them all pretty much as "terrorists", a category less than human. This is longstanding policy and in evidence over many years. That policy has been exported to the US through PNAC types, and it binds the Israeli policy goals to US policy goals in the Middle East."
I would like to point out that there has been a "Christian" policy, since the inception of Islam in the 7th century, to demonize Islam and the Prophet of Islam. I am sure that you know as much as I about that, and that you surely will agree -- anyone might read about the Crusades to brush up on this, if needed.
I honestly do not see greater understanding of Islamic peoples in the Christian (and now merely industrialized Western) world-view, compared to the Israeli world-view. Do you? Both seem to find it convenient to demonize Islam, and label Muslims in general as terrorists. Both also seem willing to make terrorism inevitable in Muslim lands by means of cruel policy (see: Iraq war, and so much more). Again, I think you will agree with these points.
Overall, your comment here provides an excellent 9/11 background primer. Thanks for composing it; it is useful. My only complaint is your mis-use of that convenient word 'Zionism.'
McVeigh was a puppet for the
McVeigh was a puppet for the government, also. Research it for yourself and you will clearly see. It has been documented. He was under the guide of the FBI and possibly other agencies/rogue elements.
I don´t believe it
It is so beyond my imagination all of this, it´s something that, allthough the government admitted I think, many would still not believe it. I mean.... My God, these innocent people! Was watching a film yesterday that showed a woman standing i the hole from the plane in one of the towers and those who jumped... How can they just not care?? And Kevin Cosgroves last call, but actually... Somehow I don´t find it very hard to believe that Bush didn´t care. Don´t think he ever does?!
Do you have any sites - Videos or something - about the Tim McVeigh bombing that are especially good? It´s hard to overlook at Google..
What I don´t get about 9/11 is that Lower Manhattan shouldn´t be damaged, I mean, that would be even harder to forget and a very bigger loss for New York and America. When insurance pays for the towers and Pentagon, why did it matter to the government about Wall Street?? Was the VIP´s in New York hiding out there??
Thank you all for responds.. Must be hard for all of you knowing (Or being convinced) that your government would do something like this to you!
McVeigh was just a stooge for the mob
Some suspect (and I do too) the Oklahoma bombing operation was mainly about destroying the evidence and investigators related to: Iran Contra and BCCI, (and perhaps also still the Savings and Loans scandal).
The massive BCCI crime network case is still important today, because it shows how International money laundering and other crimes are carried out.
For more see: http://www.freedomdomain.com/Oklahoma_bombing/iran_contra.html
If you are planning an act of terror with the Feds.....
.....and look around the table and don't see the Lee Harvey McAtta....
IT'S YOU.....
Oklahoma Bombing
Do you have any sites - Videos or something - about the Tim McVeigh bombing that are especially good? It´s hard to overlook at Google..
Maja,
Air Force Brigadier General Ben Partin did a forensic investigation of the Murrah Building. His findings are completely the opposite of the government account.
Read this letter:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/ok8.htm
Full report:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm
Local newscasts also confirm that bombs were inside the building, and were removed by bomb squads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXMo3Z0qms&eurl=
70 Disturbing Facts About 9/11
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
johndoraemi --at-- yahoo.com.