And the moon is made of green cheese.

The government would have us believe that they themselves were both incompetent and brilliant within the same 8 hour period on September 11, 2001.

8:14 to 8:20 a.m. - American Airlines Flight 11 goes off course and is hijacked.

9:37 a.m. - Pentagon gets hit.

(Timeline information courtesy of

That’s an hour and 17 minutes (77 minutes) between the time the first plane was hijacked and when flight 77 allegedly hit the pentagon.

So the government claims that screw-ups allowed this to happen. That the FAA and NORAD were to blame. Incompetence.

Yet, to my amazement, by 3:30pm Tenet had already fingered Bin Laden for the events of the day. So all of the sudden our government claims brilliance for solving the crime of the century, yet building 7 hadn’t even fallen yet. No problem, case closed. We don’t need no stinkin’ investigation.

And even more to my amazement, the public bought it. How? The media, of course. Whether complicit with prior knowledge, or complicit in reporting everything they were fed by government spokespeople without fact checking, they were complicit. And they remain complicit by failing to investigate the events of 9/11 thoroughly and without prejudice. And they remain complicit by continuing to publish 9/11 Truth Movement hit pieces. When will they learn?

Does anyone know when was the first fascist media reports mentioning Bin Laden were? Has there ever been an analysis of that timeline as well? The news of Bin Laden’s guilt, like the collapse of WTC7, certainly got out there quickly.

So our government wants us to believe they were brilliant only hours after they were completely incompetent. Yeah, right. And the BBC “lost” their tapes from 9/11, too.

And the moon is made of green cheese.

OBL was fingered immediately

That's true, Ken. I don't know when the first newscast identified OBL, but all of the speculation centered on him immediately. I believe Richard Clarke says OBL and Al Qaeda were the primary suspects before 10am that morning, before UA93 crashed or was shot down.

I'm not sure some kind of "foreknowledge" argument can be established from news reports, because most reporters seemed to assume it was OBL based on the 1993 WTC bombing (which, in the popular imagination, was directed by Al Qaeda) and other recent terrorist acts that seem to have been Bin Laden's work.

The paradox, in my mind, is of a more general quality, and it's something you identify: how do we believe that the government is simultaneously thoroughly inept enough to let 9/11 happen, but astute enough to identify the perps within minutes of it happening?

Even worse!

Richard Clarke mentioned this in his book “Against all enemies”.
The FBI had distributed a list naming 18 of the 19 alleged hijackers by 9:59 AM on 9/11. At 9:59 am Flight 93 had not yet crashed. NORAD, which was searching for the hijacked planes, wasn’t aware that Flight 93 had been hijacked until 10:08, which is nine minutes later.


Either they watched BBC before or they're really not all that incompetent. Vast unexpected crime solved in less than 2 hours, I tip my tinfoil hat.

Please note that the original list of names

that was released had to be "updated" within the first 48 hours. The four changes on the "new and improved" list were all on Flight 11 with Atta. As documented by Jay Kolar in the peer reviewed The Hidden History of 9-11-2001 these changes are:

1) Adnan Bukhari replaced by Waleed al-Sheri;

2) Ameer Bukhari replaced by Wail al-Sheri;

3) Abdulrahman al-Omari replaced by Abdul Aziz al-Omari; and

4) Amer Kamfar replaced by Satam al-Suqami.

Please also note that all except Satam al-Suqami turned up alive after 9/11/01.

Finally, note that the FBI now admits that they have no idea who the "hijackers" were.

I use this last fact to open a dialogue about 9/11with strangers and to convince the hard core government myth adherents that we need new investigations.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

First Class

People who sit in first class have their name on multiple lists.

You do not fly in first class without your name on a list.

I have flown first class one time.... we were bumped to first class by luck because the plane was full.... so at the last minute we were seated there.

Our names were on the list..... when they gave me my warm face towel they were calling me by name.... and I didn't introduce myself.

That was American Airlines.
Ignorance is NOT Bliss

When will WE learn

not to trust the media?

This article discusses reports of bin Ladin in the 1990s:

The Propaganda Preparation for 9/11
by Chaim Kupferberg

Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), , 13 June 2002 (revised 19 September 2002)

More here:

There's Something About Omar:
Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
by Chaim Kupferberg , 21 October 2003

Kupferberg thinks "It was [Richard] Clarke who, together with John O'Neill, 'discovered' bin Laden as a global terrorist mastermind."


As I don't know all the media reports, there sure was much more...