Interview With John Lear, Son of the Learjet

It is my pleasure and honor to welcome John Lear into the fold of our excellent team of aviation professionals exposing govt lies...

Qualifications and experience is as follows:

John Lear
Son of Bill Lear
(Founder, creator of the Lear Jet Corporation)

More than 40 years of Flying
19,000+ TT
23 Type ratings
Flight experience includes 707, DC-8, 727, L10-11
Interview

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.htm

Cheers!
Rob

Zoom zoom zoom!

PF911T is really punching some clouds!

Thanks Rob.

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No Freaking Kidding, man!!!

That interview rocks!

Pilots for 9/11 Truth rocks!

John Lear rocks!

Thanks Rob, you rock!

It's all coming together, brothers and sisters.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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Pilots for 9/11 Truth

Forget Bill Maher and the "Gate keepers" This is the sh*t right here. Two professionals speaking with authority and clarity.
Thanks Pilots for 9/11 Truth for bringing your credibility to the Truth Movement.
Bring on the trial.
God Bless You

Pilots for 9/11 Truth

Actually I take that back. Somebody should send this link to Maher so he can see himself for the imbecile he's proving himself to be by denying something he's either uninformed or in denial about, (or actually gate-keeping.) Either way he's not demonstrating intellligence he claims.

Makes me laugh out tears...

Love it when he starts to run down his cert list.... the Faa couldn't find anymore qualifications to test him on. Keeps reminding me of Hoover... stunt pilot in a neck tie.

I've gotta hunt down Patty and ask her a few questions. Someone out west should truth-squad Fed-defying space-hero B. Rutan. Maybe the Watson boys across the pond could get a clip from independence-galactica R. Branson.

(removed, off topic)

Thanks Rob

Your organisation is never mentioned by the hit piece merchants and its easy to see why.

Hmm

"Lear refers to evidence that intense conflict exists between at least two of the alien species (the two most common, the 'Nordics' and the 'Greys'?)."

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/coverup043.html

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

was only a matter of time..

Here come the Character assassinations...

Still doesnt change the fact that Lear has 23 ratings issued by the FAA, has flown for over 40 years accumulating 19,000 hours including for the CIA.... which makes him qualified to comment on and support our work. His other study/research is seperate

To everyone else, thanks for your support.

John is registered on our forums so if anyone has comments for him, feel free to stop by.

Rob
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See a couple of my recent Blog posts

I am sympathetic to all of Lear's perspectives, although I don't either endorse OR reject his supposedly more out-there claims.

I think you will definitely find many Truthers to be very concerned about how his other beliefs will affect the 9/11 Truth message. And frankly, sad as it is, they have very valid reason for their concerns. Unfortunately, you may find these concerns expressed rather harshly and self-righteously, since many people think they know what is credible and what is not (a sad irony, since they themselves stand far outside what other, less informed people accept as credible)

I hope that you and he will be treated with respect, regardless of any particular person't pre-conceived ideas and biases.

I havent seen his other research.

I have seen that he does research other issues. But pilotsfor911truth.org sticks to aviation aspects regarding 9/11. With respect to aviation, John Lear is MORE than qualified to comment and/or contribute.

I do not judge people by their other research, especially when i havent thoroughly looked at the other research.

Bottom line: If you want to attack John Lear based on information provided on pilotsfor911truth.org, please attack the FAA and CIA that let him gain aeronautical knowledge. Not the fact he researches other issues that most people wont touch in fear of a label.

Others wihin "the movement "who ridicule based on his other research, please show us your contributions. Perhaps some recorded calls to the govt trying to get answers might be a good place to start.

Rob
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Yo John Doe

I'm not "ridiculing" "attacking" or engaging in "character assassination" - I posted a link. Mr. Lear is pretty widely known for his talks on alien bases, etc. You say you haven't seen his other research - why not check it out before jumping down my throat? Thanks.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Fair enough...

I apologize if i seemed defensive on the subject. However, you know how many people will try to jump on that bandwagon in an attempt at character assassination... im sure..

So since you have looked at his other work... i guess you agree with it? Disagree with it? What did the "Hmmm..." mean?

And why did you reference it in an aviation related/9-11 blog?

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Steven Jones wrote a paper

Steven Jones wrote a paper about how Jesus visited Native America after the ressurection. It was called Behold My Hands: Evidence for Christ's Visit in Ancient America.

People who question authority are likely to have beliefs, what matters is whether people or Jones are talking sense about 9/11. Determining that requires going beyond questioning their character and examining the logic and evidence they present. It requires work.

Facts

pilotsfor911truth.org doesnt provide 'evidence'. We provide facts based on govt information. If these facts enter a court of law, it will become evidence.

I understand the average layman may question the 'judgement' of certain individuals based on how they conduct their research, but the facts stand alone. Once the average layman has the experience of John Lear (and others within our organization), they will be able to understand the facts. The experience and certificates John Lear holds makes him qualified to comment on the facts. The facts conflict with the govt fairy tale. The NTSB/FBI refuse to correct/explain the conflicts thus far.

Cheers!
Rob
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No worries

If I'd said a few more words maybe I wouldn't have given you the impression that I was trying to attack your work or John Lear. His research in other areas (which, since you ask, I'm pretty skeptical of) has no bearing on what he has to say about 9/11 but just as a practical matter I think it's good to be aware of - better to have it mentioned here than be surprised by it in the middle of some radio show.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Speaking of Radio shows

We will be on Mike Chambers tonight if anyone wants to tune in...

www.tnrlive.com

Cheers!
Rob
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You said it.

How much would I prefer to hear this (be reminded of it, actually-- I was pretty well versed in this "other" topic at one time) from YT rather than from one of the Screwed defectives? Let me count the ways.

Welcome to 911blogger, johnlear. We love experts here.

Don't sweat the thought police, johndoe.

The vast majority of the world & the US believe alien life exists. From a cnn poll: "80 percent of Americans think the government is hiding knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms." Wow, can't wait until 911 truth reaches 80%...

This isn't 'the subject no one dare mention'. It's a non-issue, no 'crazier' than any particular religious ideology & far more popular than single anyone.

oh brother

run YT run! don't talk to the bad shill!! :)

honestly, this whole alien aspect to the disinfo reads like really bad Asimov.

yes, we GET it. next you'll have south park do Lear jokes where Cartman joins the greys and whoever else joins the Nordics. And this will somehow save you. is pilots for 911 truth actually an organization unemployed tv script writers?

I can hear Jessica now...

____

Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

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thanks for your comments oh

thanks for your comments oh Brother.

Yes, I have made a lot of statements on the UFO subject. But I am not here to discuss that.

I am here because I don't believe a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon or that one crashed at Shanksville and this site has members far more knowledgeable than the one I have been on for a couple of years.

On the other site someone posted the AA77 FDR data which I had never looked at. I spent an evening just going over it quickly and then posted this question: "Who set the F/O's altimeter on descent at FL180 and where did he get the setting."

Nobody on that site even knew what I was talking about. Then a few days later johndoex shows up, makes a post, and that led me here.

Thanks for the welcome.

johnlear -

Welcome to 911Blogger.

I hope that you and yours are well.

Thank you for supporting new investigations into the events of 9/11.

I greatly enjoyed listening to your interview with Rob (I'm still smiling in fact).

Since you, Rob and so many other pilots I've spoken with doubt that a pilot could've flown into the Twin Towers on their first attempt, do you think that the planes were operated remotely, pre-programmed or following a homing signal?

If you prefer to not speculate I will understand completely as it is one of my beliefs that the 9/11 Truth movement is poorly served by too much speculation (esp. that which has no basis in fact).

I look forward to hearing more from you in the future.

Be well.

John Wright
Marin County, CA

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

I believe that the airplanes

I believe that the airplanes that hit the WTC were remote controlled and I will tell you why I believe that.

First, hitting the WTC at better than 500 mph is a very tricky maneuver and it is highly unlikely that any hijacker flew that profile. I say lighly unlikely because with 300 or 400 hours in a 767 sim he could have learned how to do it. But I don't believe that was the case.

Second, it is well within our capability to install remote control equipment which could very easily be guided into the WTC. The airplane could have been guided into the WTC with SATCOM guidance or could have been following a laser type signal aimed at the WTC.

I don't believe there were any pilots, passengers, hijackers or flight attendants on those airplanes.

I believe the original airplanes were taken over and the remote control airplanes switched.

Where those people went, I don't have any idea.

Where the original airplanes went I don't have any idea.

Why 'they' did it that way I don't have any idea.

That is just my sheer speculation.

Thank you.

Mr. Lear and Rob -

What do you think is the best way for the 9/11 Truth movement to approach commercial pilots (working and retired) and get them to work with us on getting new investigations?

(I have thought about just printing up cards with the pilotsfor911truth web site on them and handing them out at Oakland and SFO airports. I'd contact Rob first, of course.)

(btw - I share your opinion regarding the planes)

Be well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Anything to spread the word...

Your card idea is a GREAT idea. Thanks for your support!

Calling into radio shows and getting the site on air is also another way.

Cheers!
Rob
http://pilotsfor911truth.org
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Mainstream Media

Not to worry Victronix. My search for the truth about 911 is something I share with friends, not an ignorant media.:)

Hello Mr. Lear

what I would like to ask you is: For what reasons would it have been difficult to hit the Twin Towers? In case of the Pentagon approach, I think everybody can see why, but in regards to the Towers, I, with my experience admittedly limited to MS Flight Simulator, don't.

Looking forward to your insights, and thank you for speaking up!

My 2 tin cents. See Mr. Lear's gold brick below it.

First to admit, not only is my own low total time flight experience an odd mix (and was at times highly unorthodox), I also have NO front seat experience in a heavy multi engine jet.

I remain however unbothered by the notion of a determined novice simply jumping into a seat already at altitude, straight and level, engines running set, and from there just steering the heavy transport cross country, utilizing maybe a hand held GPS for gross navigation, that should have been plenty good enough from many states away to get within visual of landmark targets.

I am being very generous to the hijacking novice, from the start... because I myself was an eyebrow-raiser "from the start". I will probably also diverge on a number of other points with many of the truth seeking pilots, because I will often allow for a higher degree of lucky natural skill than most other pilots expect from a beginner. (I would be a hypocrite otherwise).

That said... allow me to clear my throat.... I... even I.... find it simply mind bending the amount of "lucky skill" that must come to bear... in the last frenzied-wide-eyed-kamikaze-hijacker seconds... closing in on death itself, even if to be rewarded by a 72 virgin love-knot... forgetting about left rudder/right rudder... making the final target within 100 lateral feet for the first tower.... his equally gifted and mind spinning buddy in the next jet with how many people banging on the door behind him, making his target with less than 50 lateral feet to spare... followed by a three-in-a-row mind-altered jihad co-conspirator narrowing vertically in on the facade of the Pentagon... not ten fucking feet to spare.

He he, ha ha.

The mathematical impossibility of this (because it relies on luck, rather than say, a remotely accessible computer-enhanced destination flight control hijacking)... makes my blood boil as I consider the shear unadulterated crime against humanity such a lie represents. And has proven to be.

I dare.... I challenge... I demand, ALL remaining pilots of good heart... to step forward. To step forward for the sake of humanity, which can NOT exist indefinitely upon a single globe... so long as this lie remains among us. This lie of many, a Ship of State low in the water so loaded with lies.... stands poised to burst forth atomic hell upon Earth... as it's drunken captain[s] down to the maniacal stewards... figure "what the fuck... we're going down, might as well take the rest with us."

WAKE UP, GOOD PEOPLE!

Hitting the twin towers

Hitting the twin towers would have been extremely dfficult for these reasons:

The airplane was traveling at allegedly 605 mph according to ATC which I find hard to believe because of thrust to weight issues so lets use 500 mph. 500 mph is 8.33 miles per minute or 733 feet per second. As the airplane rounded Colts Neck VOR and headed north he would have been about 22 miles away from the towers and he would now have about 2 minutes and 40 seconds to line up.

At about 8 miles away he has to be pretty well lined up because he now has about 60 seconds to go. The controls are going to be relatively heavy because of the speed and remember that the overspeed warning horn which was triggered at about 350 knots is going to be blaring in the cockpit.

Now at 4 miles away at 800 feet agl he has 28.8 seconds to be sure he is aimed correctly. I find it highly improbable that a pilot with the hijackers limited experience to be able to:

(1) line up with the Twin towers in the first place
(2) keep them lined up for the last 2 minutes of flight
(3) keep the airplane at an altitude of 800 feet plus or minus 200 feet while traveling at 733 feet per second over the rooftops of lower Manhatten

(The pilot had to be very skilled because at 500 mph the slightest movement of the control column fore or aft is going to send the airplane in a climb or dive of several thousand feet per minute).

All while the overspeed warning horn is blowing away in the cockpit along with the distracting wind noise of great speed at sea level in the cockpit?

Both hijackers hitting the twin towers wtihout error under these conditions?

No, this is not highly unlikely. This is absolutely, totally impossible! This is a fiction someone wants the public to believe for whatever reason. But to fly the profile I just described takes a great deal of skill and I am sure that with the experience I have I could not have done it on the first try.

If you still believe that there is the slightest chance that any hijacker with no time in a Boeing 757 could have flown this profile I invite you to rent some time in a Boeing 757 simulator and try it yourself. If you are not a pilot then get a friend who is. Set him up over Colts Neck at around 5000 f eet and tell him to go for it. The chances are about one in one million that he will be able to hit the tower on the first try.

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Welcome John Lear... A few bits I have picked up over time...


First, a warm welcome to 911blogger.com, hopefully here you will be able to keep up with the latest developments regarding 9/11 Truth.

Secondly, I'm sure you'll be a great asset to pilotsfor911truth.org, I have known JDX since he started his 9/11 Research and his commitment to FACT based research and questioning has never wavered.

I agree with a lot of what you have said regarding the plane switches and the difficulty to precisely hit the towers, below are a few bits I have picked up regarding this topic.


Firstly it's not exotic, the very idea of using a plane switch with an identical drone was proposed in Operation Northwoods.

Original Document : http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Extract...

8 - a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal.


The above at least indicates that plane switches and drones have been considered, and this was back in 62. The advancement in technologies has been amazing, so I hope no-one questions the "do-ability".


Why they could not rely on "human" pilots.

- The planes had to hit their targets accurately at the designated locations.
- They could not take the chance that the "hijackers" would have a change of heart or the passengers rebelled forcing the planes to miss their targets, leaving damning evidence in the WTC towers to be later found.


All flightpaths facilitated "plane switches" including, transponder anomalies. They must of known that these planes were not to be intercepted on their way to the designated target.

There's loads more research on this, including passenger list oddities etc, but one last point.


Nila Sagadevan, an aeronautical engineer and a pilot recently received a letter from a senior 757 captain currently flying with one of the airlines involved in 9/11. It contains the following statement:

Regarding your comments on flight simulators, several of my colleagues and I have tried to simulate the "hijacker's" final approach maneuvers into the towers on our company 767 simulator. We tried repeated tight, steeply banked 180 turns at 500 mph followed by a fast rollout and lineup with a tall building. More than two-thirds of those who attempted the maneuver failed to make a "hit". How these rookies who couldn't fly a trainer pulled this off is beyond comprehension.

Source : http://web.archive.org/web/20060421093451/www.physics911.net/sagadevan.htm


Just a few of my thoughts on this..

Best wishes

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Hitting the twin towers

Mr Lear.
I too want to thank you for your contribution to 9/11 truth. Thanks for your clear description of why 3 direct hits on 3 targets was virtually impossible. I have always questioned the likelihood of beating such odds but lacked the expertise to explain or defend my position. (My best analogy would be to try throwing 3 bullseyes over you shoulder with your back to the dartboard; on your first three tries.) Thanks to you we have one more weapon in our truth seeking arsenal.
Peace, Phaedrus.

Lets not forget about...

Dutch roll... high speed buffet, Mcrit and of course control surface flutter above Vmo which makes it very difficult to control anything.

:-)

Good to see you here John.

Cheers!
Rob

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