Family Guy on 9/11

Yeah...

Seth!!


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

those school children look awfully white

and they're not reciting their drills like the actual school kids were, which is why Bush was just staring vacantly into space--I mean what would you do while being subjected to this--listen attentively to gauge the students' reading ability?

Points for bringing attention to 9/11 in general, but there is so much untapped potential dealing with 9/11 that we would hope to see bolder steps by those who profit from holding people's attention fixed on commercial advertisements.

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series creator Seth

series creator Seth McFarlane was suppossed to be on one of the planes(i forget which one) involved in 9/11. you would think that would be enough for him to look closer at 9/11 and be completely pissed about the official story considering he could have been killed that day. regardless, Family Guy is still good shit. fuck South Park.

hrm...

And he missed his flight how/why? so yeah, you would think he'd be all over this but he hasn't been. This particular scene could easily be interpreted as mocking Michael Moore's fixation on the schoolbook scene. of course it may yet spark some debate somewhere which is good, but it depends on where he's going with it (if anywhere). last year he gave the "class day speech" at Harvard's graduation--doesn't mind hobnobbin with the power elite in other words... and tainting their children's minds! With what though? With the truth? Not yet!

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he says he overslept. in the

he says he overslept. in the end though, you gotta remember that this is just a friggin cartoon. would it be nice if Mcfarlane "got it" and dropped some 9/11 truth in his show? sure it would, but im not gonna hold my breath or be too upset when it doesnt happen. i'll reserve most of my anger for the MSM and our government, not Jon Stewart and Family Guy.

they ARE the MSM

And they are (presumably) citizens just like us, except that they have a platform from which to be heard by millions. And boy are they rolling in money. Meanwhile, we who are trying to save our (and their) country are routinely ignored or insulted. Remember all those great comedy shows that kept Germans laughing right throught the worst excesses of the Third Reich! They were just doing their jobs as entertainers, of course, and can't be faulted for not speaking out against Hitler. Here we are in the middle of a new holocaust--really too bad some people just don't care...

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they ARE a comedy show

they ARE a comedy show first, not a news organization. there IS a difference. i understand your anger but i just dont see the point in this case. they are comedians first. and contrary to what you and Donald Rumsfeld think, not everything can be compared to WW2. thats weak. i usually agree with you but notice you lash out REALLY hard at comedians and shit a lot. i really dont get it. do i wish they would use their platform? of course but Seth McFarlane is NOT CNN. and of course its always possible that the creators of Family Guy simply dont see 9/11 with the clarity that people like we do.

that's the million dollar question ain't it?

A lot of people want very much to believe that most people are good. That people like Jon Stewart and Seth MacFarlane are just entertainers who do their job without really thinking about their effect on tehir fellow citizens. If someone isn't down with 9/11 truth we like to think it's because they don't know any better. I see two possibilities. One is that Jon and Seth really have no idea that there is anything fishy about 9/11, either because they have never looked into it or because they have and not found anything wrong with the official story. Another is that they know full well that the media of which they form a part is covering up the truth and because they are doing so well in that system they are not going to say or do anything that would jeopardize their status.

We can argue over which is the more likely scenario. I just happen to think that people like Jon and Seth are a) not stupid and b) not under-informed, or if they are to the extent that you have to be to still not get that 9/11 was a criminal hoax, then ideally you would not be in a position to influence how millions of impressionable people see the world.

Maybe I do single out comedians, but that may just be because I still hold out some hope that someone other than the obviously shilly "news" celebrities would inject some reality back into the mainstream media. Given that voices who come out for the truth are ignored, and that people like Jon and Seth benefit from the extra attention they are allowed to have as a result (i.e. they are not competing with a REAL information show) their actions or inaction are that much more significant.

With great power or privilege comes great responsibility. What is their excuse for not demonstrating any? Not their job? It's not mine either, pal.

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Comedians are a good bet-since they tell truth to power often

Murray Kempton, the New York Newsday columnist pointed out that there is a positive correlation between being a comedian and being able to tell the truth to those in power at times when that is difficult.

Kempton's conjecture was that comedians don't have the pretension of a middle-class-style morality. They are free from any false hubris and therefore free to sacrifice their "respectability" if necessary. Since that is already something they don't necessary aspire to.

I talked to a friend comedian about it, Rick Shapiro, and he said there is a frisson for a comedian in startling people or telling them a scary truth. Maybe that's part of the mechanics of humor. In traditional drama there is the stock character of the fool who can tell the truth to the king when everyone else is afraid of him. So there is also the cloak of humor. The truth can hide behind it. "It's just a joke." "That person is just a fool." A comedian is not expected to be a moral leader. They can get away with it.

An example of a man who was not under pressure to "appear" good, and so then went ahead and did good when others around him did not - Schindler. He was a bon vivant. No one saw him, nor did he see himself as a "moral" man, so he could "get away" with doing good because no one would suspect him of it!

Kempton gave the example of Zero Mostel, who stood up to the House on Un-American Activities. (I know Pete Seeger did too and he's not a comedian, just an earnest and stubborn guy.)

Rosie O'Donnell comes to mind as a comedian who is able to say it out loud, when seemingly her comrades in celebrity can not. Michael Moore to me is an example, not for 9/11, but for speaking up at the Academy Awards right after the war started, with all the war frenzy. He just had the guts, when no one else did, though they all were thinking it, to say:

"I’ve invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us. They are here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction. We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time when we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons..."

Which took a lot of testosterone, especially at that moment in time, and which really gets at the core issue: Media Manipulation, fake reality (though that may be an oxymoron - it's a tar baby to talk about ), simulated reality.

So Seth McFarlane may deny it.....but the scene after my pet goat discusses the heart of the cover-up -- 9/11 TV fakery.

And Mr. McFarlane was, for whatever reason or non-reason, destined to be turned away from the fated "flight."

sorry, still not buying your cartoon plane nonsense

But I keep wondering about this claim of Seth M's that he was supposed to be on Flight 11.

Now this is total speculation of course, but I wonder if he was one of the people offered the chance to fake his death and then got cold feet. So that instead of going through with it and disappearing that morning he decided to say he missed the flight.

Harvard Class day speakers have included Tom Brokaw, Bono, and other more famous people than SM, so you kind of wonder where and through whom he scored that gig! Watch it here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-yl_8ywiU

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it's class day b/c the

it's class day b/c the senior class invited the speakers...

yes but

true, there are nominations and then the seniors vote. but still I wonder.... :)

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Family Guy Talks About "Blood Libel"...

This is from an episode entitled, "You May Now Kiss The... Uh... Guy Who Receives". Unfortunately, the clip below doesn't have the entire scene. This whole episode slams the Republicans. However, the Democrats proved once again that they are no better when they "retreated Monday from an attempt to limit President Bush's authority for taking military action against Iran".

Chris: What do you do at a Young Republicans meeting?

Alyssa: We help those who already have the means to help themselves. Also, we perpetuate the idea that Jesus chose America to destroy non-believers and brown people.

Chris: I don't know why, but I feel safer already.

Then Chris goes with Alyssa to join the "Young Republicans".

For those that don't know, "Blood Libel" is essentially ritual murder. Sacrificing someone because of a belief in religion/God, etc...


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

blood libel

my understanding is that the blood libel is the accusation that a group spills blood ritually, not the ritual itself...

it's historically been used to accuse Judaism of involving human sacrifice (due to certain no doubt figurative passages in the Torah and Talmud) but also against christians in the Roman Empire who were heard to discuss drinking the blood of their savior.

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It's all part of ancient

It's all part of ancient propoganda, like that rubbish the Roman's started about Carthage citizens eating babies--something NO society has EVER condoned...for the rather obvious reasons(Jenny rolls eyes).

Anytime you hear shite about "baby eating" or "raping babies", or cannablism--you know someone wants to slander a group to justify attacking them.

(The cannabalism I'm refering to is not a tribal ritual of eating ones dead realatives or one's dead enemies to absorb their power. Yeah, eww, but distictly different from making a habit of hunting human to eat)

As for ritual sacrifice of human's, I find it interesting that all the times in human history when this was an accepted regular practice, it was used by the ruling bastards to terrorize the populace into submission in a political climate where NO ONE dared challenge them--see Aztecs, among others.

The bastard's methods may have changed, but not their goals....

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.