Time Magazine: Can KSM's Confession Be Believed?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1599423,00.html

Can KSM's Confession Be Believed?

Little in the just released confession of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the presumed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, is new. The U.S. government long ago cataloged those alleged crimes based on extensive interrogations of Mohammed and other prisoners held in the CIA's controversial and now liquidated overseas prisons. But the transcripts of Mohammed's hearing — part of proceedings that began last Friday at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — are the first time the U.S. government has made publicly available his personal description of a stunning range of terrorist plots he claims to have had a hand in. These include both the 1993 and 2001 assaults on the World Trade Center, as well as the beheading of the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Mohammed boasts he had complete or partial participation in 29 terror plots, some of which were never carried out.

As the transcript portrays him, Mohammed spoke with a meandering elocution before three military officials, with no lawyer but an air force officer by his side serving as a "personal adviser." He came across as an earnest, somewhat chatty mass murderer taking credit for plans to detonate the Panama Canal as well as New York City landmarks like the stock exchange. He also mentions assassination plots directed at former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton as well as Pope John Paul II. Several of the conspiracies he cited, notably the one involving President Carter, have not previously been disclosed.

Are Mohammed's claims to be believed? He has long been described — notably in The 9/11 Commission Report — as prone to exaggeration and self-aggrandizement, fond of portraying himself as a "superterrorist." The notes to the Commission's conclusions mention the possibility of Mohammed "inflating his own role." He may also be attempting to defend his part in the 9/11 planning against the testimony of other terror suspects. The Commission's notes indicate that, according to another terror chieftain, Abu Zubaydah, Mohammed originally offered Osama bin Laden a more modest proposal for attacking the U.S., but that bin Laden reportedly berated him, saying "Why do you use an ax when you can use a bulldozer?" What's more, Mohammed has also used disinformation in the past. He admitted under previous interrogation that a list of 30 supposed U.S. targets, which he circulated shortly after 9/11, was a lie to exaggerate the scale of al-Qaeda's planning.

At one point in the transcript, Mohammed compares himself to revolutionaries like George Washington, and concedes that he is an "enemy combatant", his formal U.S. designation and a status that restricts his legal rights. If the British had arrested him during the Revolutionary War, Mohammed said, "for sure they would consider him enemy combatant." One of the ostensible reasons for the current Guantanamo hearings is to determine whether Mohammed and others can be held there indefinitely as "enemy combatants" prior to facing military tribunals that could sentence them death. The hearings at Guantanamo will process 14 "high-value" prisoners brought to Cuba last year shortly before President Bush announced the shut-down of the CIA's overseas secret prisons.

At another point in the transcript, Mohammed expressed regret for the deaths caused on 9/11, particularly those of children, noting, "I'm not happy that 3,000 been killed in America � I feel sorry even. I don't like to kill children and the kids." He added, "The language of war is victims."

The Pentagon also issued transcripts of hearings held for two other prisoners: Abu Faraj al-Libi, a Libyan who reputedly organized two bombings in Pakistan in December 2003 aimed at killing President Pervez Musharraf; and Ramzi Binalshibh, who is suspected of helping plan the 9/11 attacks as well as a failed scheme to crash planes into London's Heathrow Airport. Mohammed, who was captured in Pakistan in 2003, was the only one of the alleged terrorists to attend his own hearing. Al-Libi and Binalshibh refused to do so.

The hearings at Guantanamo, formally known as Combatant Status Review Tribunals, are being conducted without press to avoid the risk of releasing sensitive or classified information. The transcripts released yesterday were heavily redacted. Given that all the prisoners have been in U.S. custody for years, however, many critics believe that the U.S. wants to suppress details of the prisoners' interrogation, which could involve torture, or other mistreatment. Nevertheless, in his transcript, Mohammed alleges that he had been tortured.

The U.S. has also fought to keep secret the locations of CIA secret prisons where the prisoners including Mohammed were held for fear that any disclosure would greatly embarrass US allies. Press reports have suggested that secret prisons were located in Poland, Thailand, Morocco, Jordan and other locations. Some 385 men are currently being held at Guantanamo; a hunger strike purportedly involving several dozen detainees protesting the conditions of their confinement has been going on for weeks, and possibly since January.

At a time when the Bush Administration is facing stiff criticism in a variety of domestic scandals as well as for its conduct of the Iraq war, Mohammed's confession has quickly become a focus of cable TV and other media coverage, a reminder of America's ongoing battle against international terrorism. But the attention focussed on Mohammed, thought to be al-Qaeda's third-ranking leader, also underscores the fact that the terrorist organization's chief, Osama bin Laden, and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, remain at large at a time when their former Taliban protectors in Afghanistan are resurgent.

NO WAY

I think he also admitted to Jon Bonet, The OJ Murders, The Gunpowder Plot, Watergate, and he also admitted to kicking my dog last Sunday.

The recent CNN quick poll shows America is indeed waking up!!!

Timing is Everything

Either it is a distraction from Gonzalez or it is to counter this brand new 911 Truth video:

Truth Surge
http://www.freedomtown.org/Site/Freedomtown%20Videos.html

It certainly lays into the Bush Administration, you can see why they are nervous.

Its all about timing really.

The guy had confessed to it once already.

They are doing this to re enforce the mass consiousness from giving alternative explanations to 9/11 any regard.
Just setting more hurtles in our way to over coming there thought control of the masses.

My guess: there theremometer was reading off the charts when it came to the temperature of the movement (were doing good folks!), so they released something to try and cool it off (a band aid really, and i think they know this).

More propaganda like this will be coming out soon, im sure.

sure--who remembers, or cares about, the Moussaoui trial?

No one I know, and I haven't heard anyone I don't know talking about it either.

What strange times are these, where the government continues to act as if nothing is fishy when EVERYONE now knows EVERYTHING is fishy.

Overthrow the corporate media, strip them of their broadcast licenses, and soon we will have better politicians.

In the meantime let's just keep growing our numbers so they can see that we are not going anywhere, and pretty soon they'll have to disappear half the population if they want 9/11 Truth to go away.

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I've noticed an increase in truth movement activity

Especially in the last 3 months. Thats why i think this came out.
We are making a difference. We are changing the discussion, and they wont be able to ignore us much longer.
I have a question for you though: Do you think better politicians is really the answer we need?

I think a better media will give us better politicians, yes.

And that better politicians mean politicians who are actually accountable to the people. Obviously that's not all we need but it would be a nice start!

Hey check this out: http://cambridgecommon.campustap.com/blog/entry/view.aspx?Iid=157443&com...

Anyone who wants to leave some comments please do--this is a pseudo-left-center student blog at Harvard. The kid who posted the news about KSM actually brought up 9/11 on the blog last year and the other blog regulars hammered him in comments. I'm not sure if he did it sincerely or as part of a fake debate to discredit 9/11 truth, but there it is, this time the comments could get interesting. I've started it off--take a minute and comment--anonymice are welcome there!

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I think

looking torwards the media or politicians for the answers isnt just part of the problem, but is very much the core of the problem.

Better Media Means This

With an authentic media in place we'd certainly have an easier go at underrstanding our complex world. All they seem to do is confuse matters with the intent of tripping up the masses from ousting a small group of corrupt and greedy individuals. With an authentic media, we might see more programming like this brand nee 911 Truth video

Truth Surge:
http://www.freedomtown.org/Site/Freedomtown%20Videos.html

my comment for the harvard lefties is...

typical dripping cynicism wanker shite. hope they enjoy it.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil 89 (1886).
http://anti-neocons.com/

politicians should be

politicians should be selected the same way jurys are...

....they'd be more likely to actually read the legislation

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Together in Truth!

disappear half the population ?

Looked at the sky lately?

Huh?

Huh?


Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Maybe it's a comment about

Maybe it's a comment about Chemtrails. Hey Col. Jenny Sparks, I've been trying to catch up with you. I made a new Truth Video and was hoping it is is valuable for the movement.

Truth Surge
http://www.freedomtown.org/Site/Freedomtown%20Videos.html

Vote NO on CNN's poll.

On http://www.cnn.com on the lower right hand corner there is a poll asking if you believe the confession of KSM. 75% said NO!!! Take the time to vote if you want to.

AS THE WORLD TURNS

We can only pray the public outrage on the use of torture will be seen through his confession.. Well other then his tortured confession is there any empirical evidence to support his claims? Like I said before so the government official story is now it was moussaoui KSM and 19 random Muslims from Saudi Arabia That was responsible for the crimes of 9/11. Oh yea what does Danial Pearle have to do with 9/11 (nothing) did KSM just go on a psycho rampage? The drama thickens on AS THE WORLD TURNS

I had heard that Daniel Pearl

was in Pakistan shortly after 9/11 trying to do a story on tracking down the people who financed 9/11. Can anyone verify that with a link to a credible news article?

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" -- Edward R. Murrow

Daniel Pearl.

Yeah I've heard Danny Pearl was getting awfully close to the ISI in Pakistan which has long standing ties to the CIA from since they created and funded Al Quada to fight the Soviets in the 80's. Here's some articles:

http://www.counterpunch.org/tariqpearl.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/EF28Df02.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=3408476
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2003/10/22/pearl/index.html

I encourage you to Google it as well because Danny Pearl is a huge story in the financing and creating of 9/11. He got too close to the truth in other words.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Daniel+Pearl+ISI&btnG=Search

Peace. and Onward.

wonder what he really knew

Looks like he was set up that sucks i can just wonder what he really knew.

This new 911 Truth Video is

This new 911 Truth Video is loaded with info about the ISI and their partner agency al queda. Plus, it really slams the Bush Administration against a wall.

911 Truth Surge
http://www.freedomtown.org/Site/Freedomtown%20Videos.html

Wherever we can...

We here can make use of anything the disinformationists do. This is a good case in point.

Wherever we can, comment on this. Tell the world what the world already knows, clearly... but is usually too afraid to think about. Say it again and again. Say it well. Say it calmly and cooly, and be persistent.

John Albanese's list is just superb.

"Mohammed boasts he had

"Mohammed boasts he had complete or partial participation in 29 terror plots, some of which were never carried out."

"His" 9/11 plot being one of those...

Wishful thinkin

At another point in the transcript, Cheney expressed regret for the deaths caused on 9/11, particularly those of children, noting, "I'm not happy that 3,000 been killed in America... I feel sorry even, but not much. I don't like to kill children and the kids." He added, "The language of our wars for global hegemony is victims."

www.northtexansfor911truth.com

Thanks, KSM!!!

Really, he got more media coverage than we ever could. Great to see his admission the headlines of the San Francisco Chronicle-makes them as believable of a news source as the National Enquirer.Umm...maybe the Enquirer is more believable on this subject. But the headlines yesterday was even better-Nancy Pelosi booed on Iraq comments by AIPAC members.Wow, and these guys stopped Cheney's speech 27 times with applause a day or two before. Hey AIPAC supporters, nice to see where your allegiances lie.

akaCincy911Truth: I heard that Daniel Pearl's wife wrote a book saying that he was on the trail of who was behind 911, that he is one of the first casualties of the coverup. But I havn't read it, might be hearsay.

Today's KSM story helps us so much, gets people's minds on 911 just before Sunday's coming protests. We can feed off the doubts of Joe public this weekend-let's give it our all. Can someone post a list here with some catchy placard mottos? "911 was an inside job" is a little overused at this point.

catchphrases

9/11 Truth NOW
Tell The Truth about The (Twin) Towers
9/11 WE KNOW

etc... anyone else?

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Catch phrase

WTC 7 = SMOKING GUN

Expose 9/11 = Stop the War

Not a catchphrase but it's what I'm putting on a sign for the peace march.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Thanks, all...

Not much of the lay public knows anything about WTC 7. Maybe: 911=WTC 7 =We Know!

I want to grab the 'naive reader' and give them some logic that their (possibly )simple mind can't reject straight out of hand. Like the '911-end the war' link, but that seems more focused at the anti-Truther peace movement. I am thinking of working off today's KSM 'confession', something like "I took down the WTC towers, me and my friend Billy Bob".

Please, keep them coming!

9/11 Worse Than You Thought

9/11 Worse Than You Thought

9/11: The One Time "They" told the Truth?

911: The Lie That Begot All Others

Were You NEO-CONNED by 911?

I got this from a button,
PEACE NEEDS TRUTH

www.northtexansfor911truth.com

I always fancied...

"Peace begins with 9/11 Truth"

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my catchphrase for the weekend

End the 9/11 Lies.
End the 9/11 Wars.

I like the way it implies causality (duh) and keeps the emphasis on ending the war, without being obnoxiously in-your-face to the local libs who are really trying to keep this year's rally "on message"!

Showed their bluff

As far as I'm concerned, the handling of this alleged confession of an alleged detainee is great news for 9/11 Truth. They have played their hand and shown themselves to be bluffing. If they had anything, they wouldn't have to invoke so much secrecy: They'd be parading their prisoner in front of every media outlet on earth, like they do with their Osama Bin Laden tapes.

Every time I see that same photo of KSM, allegedly from 2003, and not a new photo to prove he is in custody (and that we should even begin to suspect their cover story), I grow more confident.

Officials: Mohammed exaggerated claims

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070315/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/terrorist_plots

So if SOME parts are proving to be untrue, then all of it has to be thrown out.

Is this actually a result of some in the media actually DOING THEIR JOB?

interesting.

Big bad wolf still at large

"the fact that the terrorist organization's chief, Osama bin Laden, and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, remain at large"

That is just SO UNBELIEVABLY naive...

German politician doubts it

German politician Hans-Christian Ströbele (from the Green party) has stated his doubts about the "confession".
He says that there were and are reports about the extreme torture of KSM.
"He propably would even have confessed being the devil" Ströbele said.

http://portal.gmx.net/de/themen/nachrichten/ausland/terror/3764510-Stroe...

http://www.n-tv.de/778620.html

Herta Däubler-Gmelin (SPD) also doubts the story

the devil did 9/11

"He propably would even have confessed being the devil" Ströbele said.
didn't you see his trademark devil's face in the smoke at the wtc? forget the PNAC lot, we just caught the devil. this is very exciting news. does anyone have confirmation that KSM is indeed lucifer?

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil 89 (1886).
http://anti-neocons.com/

double post

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triple post

Count on WashPo

to provide the limited hangout damage control just hours after polls already show no one is buying this.

The new mantra is, Mohammed Exaggerated Claims.

Notice in the article how many anonymous sources shape the story:

"Current and former government officials say the CIA spent hundreds _ if not thousands _ of hours interrogating Mohammed and would have heard him describe in great detail precisely what he claims to have done in each plot. The transcript provided a snippet of his claims, officials said.

A CIA official declined to analyze Mohammed's statements.

One official cautioned that many of Mohammed's claims during interrogation were "white noise" _ designed to send the U.S. on wild goose chases or to get him through the day's interrogation session."

OT: Irony Alert

Monbiot writes (hit) piece called Getting your science from charlatans, alleges "senior staff have come to identify themselves with the companies providing their revenues, and are, as a result, seeking to modify the truth."

Talks about "The Great Global Warming Swindle". Turns out it was all KSM's fault. End of story.